B16A engine - '93 civic hatch- possible??

[honda_chick]

Hiii just doing some research.
As above- will it fit straight in? Has anyone done it? Will I have any problems? If so, what??
Does anyone know af any places in Vic to get a decent half-cut?
Anyone got a better idea re; engine swap?

Thankkks allll :)

[phantom_civic]

Yes its a str8 swap, all u need is a front cut.
If you have a carby then u'll need the fuel lines, convert it to efi n so on.
Better idea = K20 yO!

[honda_chick]

wats a K20? Wats it out of?

[phantom_civic]

K20 is out of a Dc5R type r.

[bigjo5]

this question has been recovered many times and has been posted as a sticky.. you could search and look itup.. but since ur new commer .. ill help you out.. hers a thread that about conversion on civics
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47020

[kj887]

yup beta get a half cut, much easier to do the conversion, the half cut got all wat u need for the conversion which save your time.
but normally a b16a manual half cut is around $3500, the Generation 1 b16a EF/DA half cut will be less than $2500 but it is cable clutch gear box.
but it still ok to get the parts separately if u cant get a half cut, u need
- long block & short block
- manual gear box (beta get hydro)
- radiator hose (aftermarket is ok)
- intake, throttle body & exhaust manifold (aftermarket exh header is ok)
- distributor (get OBD1, 92 - 95 gen 2 b16a)
- all OBD1 looms & OBD1 wirings (beta get uncut)
- OBD1 ECU

beta look more around ozhonda forum, should solve your questions.

[egSi]

its NOT a straight swap.

youll have driveshaft and mount problems, not to mention the wiring.

and also youll need a b series shift linkage

what model eg do u have?

ifs its non vtec youll probably have to wire in a MAP/TPS(cant remember which) sensor

[honda_chick]

I dont have one yet Im looking at a '92 or '93 civic. Half cut should come with everything I need anyway so it should be a straight swap...
re; engine mounts, Can anyone confirm this?

[egSi]

yeah ill confirm dseries tranny mounts are not the same, its not big deal just make sure your motor comes with me.

ppl says its a straigh swap its just bullshit, trust me i have done it.

also you probalby wont be able to use dseries drive shafts with the bseries.

if u do go half cut youll be sweet but imo get a motor/tranny and ecu and chuck it in. whats the point of having half a car at your place that u dont need and will probalbly cost more to dispose of thats its worth?

motto of this story = b16 into eg, NOT a straight swap!

[hello_042]

Just wondering...yeah...I was beginning to think that it wouldn't be as easy as 'straight swap'...but I'm also wondering how much harder it is to do a conversion from a carby to an EFi? I don't know heaps about these engines and what not...also semi off topic...but how much power did these have...? They're found in 92+ GL Civics right...? These engines any good...? Thanks a lot!

[bennjamin]

yeah ill confirm dseries tranny mounts are not the same, its not big deal just make sure your motor comes with me.

ppl says its a straigh swap its just bullshit, trust me i have done it.

also you probalby wont be able to use dseries drive shafts with the bseries.

if u do go half cut youll be sweet but imo get a motor/tranny and ecu and chuck it in. whats the point of having half a car at your place that u dont need and will probalbly cost more to dispose of thats its worth?

motto of this story = b16 into eg, NOT a straight swap!

Rofl , it is a straight swap :) But not from a CRX apparently ;)

Any B16a2 or B18c or b18c2/7 halfcut out of an EG6 or DC2/4 should "fit into" a EFI EG civic with 95% parts bolting in. The only issue is alittle bit of wiring from the shock tower...you can even use your D series rubber mounts - all TORQUE mounts -
You MUST use the B series side engine mounts + metal mounting points too)

[SLOWEGG]

Rofl , it is a straight swap :) But not from a CRX apparently ;)

Any B16a2 or B18c or b18c2/7 halfcut out of an EG6 or DC2/4 should "fit into" a EFI EG civic with 95% parts bolting in. The only issue is alittle bit of wiring from the shock tower...you can even use your D series rubber mounts - all TORQUE mounts -
You MUST use the B series side engine mounts + metal mounting points too)

Yep, all you gotta do is add extra wiring for some of the sensors thats about it. Everything else should be in the half cut.

[|N|]

yeah ill confirm dseries tranny mounts are not the same, its not big deal just make sure your motor comes with me.

ppl says its a straigh swap its just bullshit, trust me i have done it.

also you probalby wont be able to use dseries drive shafts with the bseries.

if u do go half cut youll be sweet but imo get a motor/tranny and ecu and chuck it in. whats the point of having half a car at your place that u dont need and will probalbly cost more to dispose of thats its worth?

motto of this story = b16 into eg, NOT a straight swap!

2nd that...

lol

[egSi]

Rofl , it is a straight swap :) But not from a CRX apparently ;)

straight swap? it is not! :thumbdwn:

dont forget the raditor hoses are different sizes and throttle cables r different lenghths.

[EG5]

I use SI throttle cable
and add knock sensor wire + vtec wire
most mount bracket from D series are not useable at all

[[[d a n n y]]]

u dont need to use any of that Si rubbish stuff
half cuts got it all
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47020

have a read

[AsH_]

do halfcuts come with a gearbox???

[bennjamin]

straight swap? it is not! :thumbdwn:

dont forget the raditor hoses are different sizes and throttle cables r different lenghths.
*Slaps*


Any B16a2 or B18c or b18c2/7 halfcut out of an EG6 or DC2/4 should "fit into" a EFI EG civic with 95% parts bolting in.

You use the relevant radiator hoses and throttle cable out of the half cut too :)
Basically...everything on the halfcut gets swapped over ~ but as siad you can use the exisiting RUBBER torque mounts , wiring loom , BMC/clutch lines etc too

BTW a "halfcut" coimes with a gearbox. Its basically the entire engine bay of the car.

[SLOWEGG]

Hoses fit for me.. Only thing i had to change was the throttle cable and adding extra wires but everything else bolt straight in. Only took the pov boys one sunny day to do the whole conversion.

[bennjamin]

Hoses fit for me.. Only thing i had to change was the throttle cable and adding extra wires but everything else bolt straight in. Only took the pov boys one sunny day to do the whole conversion.

about 9 hrs from stock to c7 rock here :) The D series hoses were too narrow for the B series thermo-housing and radiator , also the D series clips are too narrow too. Just use everything u can from teh halfcut :)

[quangsta]

*sighz* kids...sheesh

i think what egsi is saying is that if u just get a engine/tranny it wont just bolt up to ur stock d series stuff....hence not a straight swap

and what bennj is saying is that it will be a straight swap if u get a half cut (ie wiring, mounts, radiator the works) and just swap the parts in, in that sense its a straight swap

[SLOWEGG]

about 9 hrs from stock to c7 rock here :) The D series hoses were too narrow for the B series thermo-housing and radiator , also the D series clips are too narrow too. Just use everything u can from teh halfcut :)

Lol took us about that long aswell.. only trouble we had was we forgot the map sensor was on the wall and not the TB so we forgot to install it..

[egSi]

*slaps*? :thumbdwn:

[Adoomi]

hey how u doing..have u done ur swop yet.... cause im doint the same..how did u go..?

[Micko]

Rofl , it is a straight swap :) But not from a CRX apparently ;)

Any B16a2 or B18c or b18c2/7 halfcut out of an EG6 or DC2/4 should "fit into" a EFI EG civic with 95% parts bolting in. The only issue is alittle bit of wiring from the shock tower...you can even use your D series rubber mounts - all TORQUE mounts -
You MUST use the B series side engine mounts + metal mounting points too)
i have a fair idea about this conversion, i never got to go through with it.. but what i researched was:

dropping a b16a2/etc into a EFI EG Civic you would require all the environment parts from the half cut to put in (MAP, Sensors, wiring loom, hoses, cables) and maybe harness for ECU, and then does the vtec ecu come with the half cut? cos the EG one may not suit the swap.

correct me if im wrong, isnt a straight swap where you can drop an engine block/head straight in without having to change any environment parts? or am i completely off track?

[czy_sol87]

i wouldnt bother with a swap, unless u were gonna do something hardcore, like a b18cr or k20 engine, doing a conversion is not cheap, any conversion will cost $5k+, unless u do alot of the work urself
there are plenty of civics that already have VTEC engines swaped in, it would be more sensible to buy one already done, or u could even buy a newer and better honda, just my opinion
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=50
just have a look through this thread