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RiCe_da9
01-11-2006, 01:27 PM
hello fellow cd5 owners..im abit of a newbie to this forum so bear wit me ok guys:)
im looking at doin a h22a conversion(preferably the type s engine) to my beloved cd5 accord. im also planning to mod it wit a set of tuned extractors, cai, 2.25 inch mandrel bent exhaust and hondata s200 ecu..and also i still wana use the stock muffler....jus so the roar of the h22 can do all the talking;)
to all the cd5 guys whos dun a h22a convert wit similar mods, i got few questions i would like to ask..
1. how many ks do u guys get out of a full tank?
2. if any1s dun a dyno run wit their h22a cd5s wit the similar mods i like to do to mine or not, how much kws atw kws does your cd5 put out?...an estimate would also be taken as positive feedback
3. is there any problems that i could face wit this conversion?...if there is any
your feedback..positive or negative...would be greatly appreciated and i would be learning more about cd5s from u guys
thanx for your time n patience
Xplodin
01-11-2006, 08:35 PM
ASk Cam, AKA H22a Accord, his like GuRu to the CD5 H22a Convert.
mj3610
01-11-2006, 10:11 PM
1. how many ks do u guys get out of a full tank?
2. if any1s dun a dyno run wit their h22a cd5s wit the similar mods i like to do to mine or not, how much kws atw kws does your cd5 put out?...an estimate would also be taken as positive feedback
3. is there any problems that i could face wit this conversion?...if there is any
1. they get exactly the same kms out of a tank than ur current f22b1 (400-500kms) , if not then maybe 10-20kms more as the h22a doesnt work as hard as the f22b to push the car the same amount, but thats a very tiny percentage...
2. atm ur getting around 80kwatw with ur f22b1, with a H22a + headers + CAI expect around the 110kw mark at the wheel.
3. theres no real problems i've heard of with the conversion, make sure whoever is doing the conversion is not dodgy.
think about it tho, do u realy wanna fork out 4-5g for an extra 30kws on a 12 year old honda accord?
may i ask why ur doing the conversion?
Joeyboy
02-11-2006, 01:47 PM
i know how u feel abt doin a h22 swap. i own a cd5 as well & will someday do the same swap (turbo-charged tho). no-one expects an accord to be fast. general idea its a family car. BUT with a more powerful engine then at least u've got somethin to brag/smile/laugh abt. just bcoz my cd5 is lowered and has rims, ppl always think i wanna race them - i hate when other cars start revin at the lights. coz they know they're gonna beat me! *by the way drag racing is ILLEGAL*
u see alot of sportscars that are all the same (no offense as I would like to own a fast sports as well - R34 GTR...hmmmm....nice), however the CD5s look great and its not everyday that u come across an accord that can keep up with some other faster sports cars *AGAIN - drag racing is ILLEGAL*
in conclusion - its not trying to be unique (as there are other h22 accords out there) - but its still not common - and i like d idea of being "not common". be the black sheep!
one day im gonna beat my friend's 200sx...ONE DAAAAYYYY!!!! in a legal drag strip that is *ahem*
only my opinion.
filoaccord
03-11-2006, 11:29 AM
i got my car back today h22a turbo and just letting u know if i was u i wouldnt go turbo so many problems. car is fast now
will send u a photo
i know how u feel abt doin a h22 swap. i own a cd5 as well & will someday do the same swap (turbo-charged tho). no-one expects an accord to be fast. general idea its a family car. BUT with a more powerful engine then at least u've got somethin to brag/smile/laugh abt. just bcoz my cd5 is lowered and has rims, ppl always think i wanna race them - i hate when other cars start revin at the lights. coz they know they're gonna beat me! *by the way drag racing is ILLEGAL*
u see alot of sportscars that are all the same (no offense as I would like to own a fast sports as well - R34 GTR...hmmmm....nice), however the CD5s look great and its not everyday that u come across an accord that can keep up with some other faster sports cars *AGAIN - drag racing is ILLEGAL*
in conclusion - its not trying to be unique (as there are other h22 accords out there) - but its still not common - and i like d idea of being "not common". be the black sheep!
one day im gonna beat my friend's 200sx...ONE DAAAAYYYY!!!! in a legal drag strip that is *ahem*
only my opinion.
Eclipsor
03-11-2006, 01:51 PM
1. Around 100km/10L
2. Like mj360 said around 110kw. Mine got a little more but depending on the dyno etc most of them will be around that mark.
3. You mean problems with driving the a car with the conversion or problems with actually performing the conversion? If the conversion is done well there shouldn't be too many reliability problems. Maybe keep an eye on the engine mounts. I've replaced my rear mount but it wasn't in that good condition to start with.
What sort of problems did you find filoaccord? Where did you end up getting the injectors? pm me if it's too off topic.
h22a accord
04-11-2006, 07:24 AM
1. how many ks do u guys get out of a full tank?
about the same but the temptation to drive it harder usually leads to higher consumption
2. if any1s dun a dyno run wit their h22a cd5s wit the similar mods i like to do to mine or not, how much kws atw kws does your cd5 put out?
I had mine dynod last week with only 2.25" catback and K&N CAI and it pulled 113.5kwatw
3. is there any problems that i could face wit this conversion?...if there is any
with every conversion there is bound to be a few bugs to sort out but nothing major.
regarding your decision to run a standard muffler, i can tell you from experience that performance will suffer in the top end.
other than that, i say go for it. It gives the car a whole new lease on life...I have no regrets after spending the 4.5k to do the conversion almost 3 years ago.
if u have any other questions dont hesitate to ask here.
Joeyboy
08-11-2006, 12:35 PM
i got my car back today h22a turbo and just letting u know if i was u i wouldnt go turbo so many problems. car is fast now
will send u a photo
hi bro - kamusta? (if u are pinoy) - what kinda problems we talkin bout here? pls share. cheers!
mj3610
08-11-2006, 12:40 PM
hi bro - kamusta? (if u are pinoy) - what kinda problems we talkin bout here? pls share. cheers!
accord gearbox wouldnt last more than a month if its turbod, prelude gearbox would be a better way to go. thats just ONE problem...
Joeyboy
08-11-2006, 12:54 PM
accord gearbox wouldnt last more than a month if its turbod, prelude gearbox would be a better way to go. thats just ONE problem...
oh yeh, i know that - im gonna get half-cut so i get all the extra goodies as well. would prelude gearbox be alright tho???
mj3610
08-11-2006, 04:26 PM
oh yeh, i know that - im gonna get half-cut so i get all the extra goodies as well. would prelude gearbox be alright tho???
oh sorry i misunderstood i thought hes talking about turboing a f22b1 i totally misread what he said, my bad :)
but again, i dont think prelude gearbox will cope with a turbo h22a, just get the conversion dont turbo it...
alot of times people spend alot of money on turboing the car without any real problems, and 4 months down the track the gearbox gives in and they end up forking out more money to replace the box + more hassle
are you talking about an auto 'box not lasting, or manual 'box?
mj3610
08-11-2006, 05:42 PM
are you talking about an auto 'box not lasting, or manual 'box?
whos gonna turbo an auto?
i asked because i have no idea where you get that the manual box wont last...
mj3610
08-11-2006, 07:04 PM
because of the huge power increase???
please dont post assumptions as facts, in practice the gearboxes are fine with turbo conversions.
And it torque that kills gearboxes, rather than power ;)
mj3610
08-11-2006, 07:24 PM
please dont post assumptions as facts, in practice the gearboxes are fine with turbo conversions.
thats the most rediculous thing i've ever heard...
lol feel free to think it ridiculous.
you reckon it'd last a month. Mine is 30 months and counting...
mj3610
08-11-2006, 07:32 PM
i said "most" gearboxes, if it makes u happy and stops u from crying then by all means consider urs an exeption...
and what u said IS rediculous and technically incorrect...
accord gearbox wouldnt last more than a month if its turbod, prelude gearbox would be a better way to go. thats just ONE problem...
you didnt say most at all. And even if you did, you would be wrong...there have been few gearbox related problems until you get to built engines/high torque
and please do educate me as to why what i have said is ridiculous and so technically incorrect, rather than just make a claim. because i would love to know what i have got so terribly wrong.
B|ade
08-11-2006, 08:10 PM
Haha
****in nice one
I mean ... Mine's been turbo for what? About 2-3 years now and still no gearbox problems?
Wow man you've clearly educated me
Can't believe I didn't think of this earlier - gonna go to a gearbox specialist asap.
mj3610
08-11-2006, 09:11 PM
lol they're fired up now... ^^^
for whoever was asking, if ur ready to waste that much money on a H22A conversion then atleast just get the conversion, dont be silly and fork out all ur money to turbo a FWD that has 110kw already...
still dont see anything that actually backs up your point of view... :)
mj3610
08-11-2006, 09:24 PM
still dont see anything that actually backs up your point of view... :)
lol i don have to, ur just hoping someone else with a turbo h22a runs in and backs u up so u can go to sleep tonite thinking the work done to ur car was worth it and u will never have any problems with it...
HAHAHA
i didnt say i had a h22a turbo for starters. I have an F22B1 turbo.
And secondly, i dont need any backup. I have done enough research over the last 4 years to know what is what when it comes to accords and their capabilities.
You, on the other hand, have dribbled shite in this thread without any basis for what you are saying. I dislike that with a passion, because the WORST thing about honda forums worldwide is kids who have absolutely no knowledge talking rubbish and influencing other kids who ask honest questions.
WPN.22R
08-11-2006, 09:33 PM
well if it helps, my box has taken up to 22psi and 280kw atw
stock box h22a turbo 5 years and counting!
mj3610
08-11-2006, 09:36 PM
HAHAHA
i didnt say i had a h22a turbo for starters. I have an F22B1 turbo.
And secondly, i dont need any backup. I have done enough research over the last 4 years to know what is what when it comes to accords and their capabilities.
You, on the other hand, have just dribbled shite in this thread without any basis for what you are saying. I dislike that with a passion, because the WORST thing about honda forums worldwide is kids who have absolutely no knowledge talking rubbish and influencing other kids who ask honest questions.
ROFLMAO u turbod a f22b? LOLLLL *** thats funny, can u post some pics so my mates can have a laugh before they leave my place... plssss?
let me guess, your mates all drive shitboxes and this is their way of feeling better about themselves yeh :)
there are plenty of pics floating around
mj3610
08-11-2006, 09:41 PM
let me guess, your mates all drive shitboxes and this is their way of feeling better about themselves yeh :)
there are plenty of pics floating around
one here drives a R33-GTST and the other drives a corrolla sportivo, they're both shitboxes but they're not a laughing stock...
show me the link to ur car.
ECU-MAN
08-11-2006, 09:47 PM
dont underestimate the F22B1 and it gearbox.
the F22B1 gear box is one tough mumma that can take alot of crap, they are very similar to the H22 gear box if not the same.
F22B1 respond well to boost from what Iv heard from peolpe that have done it.
dont dis what you dont know
yourfather
08-11-2006, 10:00 PM
one here drives a R33-GTST and the other drives a corrolla sportivo, they're both shitboxes but they're not a laughing stock...
show me the link to ur car.
since when did you become the authority on what is a shitbox or not.
ECU-MAN
08-11-2006, 10:01 PM
just to add a pissy D15 gearbox can handle boosted applications as well :)
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:02 PM
are u admiring CD accord gearboxes? they're nuggets
honestly i've never met anyone with a cd accord thats happy with their gearbox... :( but maybe thats just me...
p.s i own a CD accord...
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:05 PM
since when did you become the authority on what is a shitbox or not.
since both the drivers tell me themselves :D
B|ade
08-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Haha
Mate you're a ****ing retard
Poid's right, it's dumbasses like you that ruin forums the world over.
Crawl back in your hole mate and post again when you actually have some knowledge and experience to back whatever you say up.
yourfather
08-11-2006, 10:11 PM
since both the drivers tell me themselves :D
you should stop your trolling man. you have nothing constructive to say anymore.
you used to have a lot of valid opinions, but now all you wanna do is start flame wars.
show me the link to ur car.
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=507&page=1
have a look, mine is the maroon one. Laugh it up if you think its a shitbox :)
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:15 PM
err it says u must be a registered user to view images...
make a thread in the ppearance section if ur so proud of ur turbo accord...
yourfather keep ur mouth shut, im tryn to save the kid alot of money and hassle hes gonna put into turboing a h22a, whats the result, 160-190kw to the front wheel? trust me its for his own good....
yourfather
08-11-2006, 10:18 PM
look man, its his cash, he can spend it on whatever the hell he wants to.
specifically, its not WHAT you say, it's the way that you say it, which is designed to kick up a fuss and piss people off..
this is what I mean
ROFLMAO u turbod a f22b? LOLLLL *** thats funny, can u post some pics so my mates can have a laugh before they leave my place... plssss?
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/507/DSC00339.jpghttp://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/507/medium/DSC00303.jpg
there are more in the accord thread in the appearance forum
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:20 PM
look man, its his cash, he can spend it on whatever the hell he wants to.
specifically, its not WHAT you say, it's the way that you say it, which is designed to kick up a fuss and piss people off..
this is what I mean
and it MY opinion he can either take it as use it or go do whateva he wants realise for himself later, so just shutup and aim ur "its ur cash u can do whateva u want" comments at HIM not me...
ECU-MAN
08-11-2006, 10:20 PM
CD5 gearbox are prone to syncros plying up ( 4th 5th ) but they still keep going
dont think the prelude gearbox is imune to problems because they suffer simmilar problems
overall very reliable gearboxes. they just keep going
B|ade
08-11-2006, 10:23 PM
While we're here
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/500/P1010149.JPG
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/500/P1010152.JPG
yourfather
08-11-2006, 10:26 PM
and it MY opinion he can either take it as use it or go do whateva he wants realise for himself later, so just shutup and aim ur "its ur cash u can do whateva u want" comments at HIM not me...
Look man, while I am quite aware that the situation of group thinking and stagnation of conversation in relation to these issues can occur, I don't think that running around starting flame wars, or acting like an arrogant selfish prick really does anything but turn people against you.
Sure, you might not care what we think, that's fine man, but how about, you take a bit of your own advice, and shut up.
If you do have an opinion about something, stop the god damn trolling, just give your opinion, without the "witty little barb" that you think is so cool. We don't think it's endearing, we don't find it funny, and your comments are automatically read and skipped over, because you are unable to articulate yourself properly without resorting to swearing or insulting others for their ideas.
And, if you tell me, after this, that I should "STFU" or whatever, it just further proves my point that you are a troll, because you have NOTHING relevant to say, but incite others to flame.
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:27 PM
While we're here
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/500/P1010149.JPG
http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/gallery/data/500/P1010152.JPG
lol very nice...
lol very nice...
awwww no flaming? I'm disappointed, i was ready to go dig a hole after my ego was crushed :wave:
B|ade
08-11-2006, 10:29 PM
awwww no flaming? I'm disappointed, i was ready to go dig a hole after my ego was crushed :wave:
Haha
I'm all for digging holes
Thanks mate :)
Eclipsor
08-11-2006, 10:34 PM
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=31591
ECU-MAN
08-11-2006, 10:34 PM
lets keep things on topic guys
mj3610
08-11-2006, 10:39 PM
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=31591
LOLLL i'll have a good laugh with that one tomorrow morning when im not so tired, but just have a look at the kid, explains itself, poid and blade prob look the same as noone with brains would do that to a car...
passion for cars is one thing, stupidity is another...
Vinnie
09-11-2006, 01:21 AM
LOLLL i'll have a good laugh with that one tomorrow morning when im not so tired, but just have a look at the kid, explains itself, poid and blade prob look the same as noone with brains would do that to a car...
passion for cars is one thing, stupidity is another...
thats jus blatant pointless flaming and is in no way productive comments mate. and more like passion for cars is one thing, not being able to appreciate what other people do with theirs is another... its all very nice for u to have ur own opinion but at the end of the day wateva ppl want to do with there cars that makes them happy is up to them and u shood jus accept it. besides, these guys have done very well with these setups and i, for one, am impressed that theyve been willing to step outside the box. and fyi, neither of these cars are exactly slow and are a vast improvement over what they started with.
and u lost this argument a long time ago when u went from posting false facts on issues u dont understand to jus paying out ppl u dont even know...
jdmlvn
09-11-2006, 04:14 AM
nice accords
GEN46L
09-11-2006, 06:34 AM
Haha
I'm all for digging holes
Thanks mate :)
Sorry to come in so late fella's but this but who is this limp wristed faggot. Can't help but laugh at how dumb someone can actually be.
MJ3610, Take it from a Professionals perspective with over 26 Years experience, you have No ****ing Idea what you are talking about. You and your Sportivo boyfriend are a dead set wally's mate. Fancy admitting to owning a Sportivo.
Honda Accord Manuals can handle shit loads of power and are every bit as strong as a Nissan GTS-T box.
Speaking of digging holes, this queer prick should be in a shallow one in the Belangalo State Forest.
LOLLL i'll have a good laugh with that one tomorrow morning when im not so tired, but just have a look at the kid, explains itself, poid and blade prob look the same as noone with brains would do that to a car...
passion for cars is one thing, stupidity is another...
i'll leave it at this quote, i think you've made yourself look like enough of a jackass for now :)
bennjamin
09-11-2006, 09:47 AM
Cool. another closed thread because of bickering.
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