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MR-VTEC
29-05-2004, 08:47 PM
just wondering would ya have to rebuild the b16a engine if i plan to turbo it. its got 160000kms. only plan to run a max of 10 psi. :?: :?: :?:

[[d a n n y]]
29-05-2004, 09:07 PM
] said before. . . ]well probly have to check it first..

if's it's not been threashed..


wtf is "threased" danny ?

McChook
29-05-2004, 09:13 PM
10psi is enough on a B16a to require you to run less than 10.5:1 compression ratio. Less than 10 would be ideal.

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 10:48 AM
yeah but would the engine have to be rebuilt or strengthened before i did turbo it?

SPEEDCORE
30-05-2004, 11:29 AM
If you want it to last............ YES!

mojo the flashy monkey
30-05-2004, 11:44 AM
lol yer get out some rope and tye it down good or ill rofl wen ur engin fals out

fusion_VTi
30-05-2004, 12:21 PM
it depends on how far you wanna go with it. if u want huge power strengthen the motor so you can run high boost.

egvtec
30-05-2004, 06:23 PM
If u are planning not to strengthen the motor then maybe go for 7psi and that is with very good tuning

A'PEXi
30-05-2004, 07:10 PM
]]
] said before. . . ]well probly have to check it first..

if's it's not been threashed..


wtf is "threased" danny ?

thrashed?

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 11:08 PM
ok but can anyone answer my question? i plan to turbo a b16a. the engine has 160000kms on it. if i run say around 6 psi and no more than 10 psi the question is will i have to rebuild my engine or can i just add a turbo setup and not have to worry about spending money on the engine?

Phat_ciVic
30-05-2004, 11:12 PM
yeah you could, for a while, but it will seriously limit the life of ur engine, 6 psi should be ok, but any higher and u'd have to think about the rebuild

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 11:18 PM
how much are rebuilds and what would be involved? how long would the engine last on 6 psi?

Phat_ciVic
30-05-2004, 11:23 PM
depends how u drive, and how you've treated the engine b4 now. and whether u have it tuned properly, as for the rebuild i'm not sure how much it would cost. might be cheaper to get a swap, but like i said i dunno

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 11:33 PM
so i wouldnt drive hard all the time and the engines in fairly good nick. regular services well looked after. so i could just get a turbo setup put on and thats it. oh and get sumthin like a hondadata and get tuned properly.

pornstar
30-05-2004, 11:40 PM
MR-VTEC, we did an 89 crx and that engine has done like 300k+ kms and its still fine after 2 years of boost.

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 11:43 PM
true. but how much was spent on the turbo set up? how much boost?

Phat_ciVic
30-05-2004, 11:44 PM
do it, then u can tell us how long a b16a after 160 000km's with a turbo running 6psi and proper tuning will last. sounds fairly safe to me, if you do it like u said, but i couldn't tell you how much life ur engine has left,

does anyone else know more about this?

MR-VTEC
30-05-2004, 11:48 PM
yeah i would but dont wanna go throwing money at it unless im sure of the out comes. well that is at least a bit sure anyway.

anymore suggestions would help.

thanx guys.

pornstar
31-05-2004, 12:49 AM
it was a complete conversion, 9k for the setup. if ur going to be skimping dont turbo ur car, just go i/h/e, not worth getting **** all gains because ur to tite to spend the first time.

MR-VTEC
31-05-2004, 01:01 AM
true. although i never said i wasnt goin to spend alot of money. i simply wanted to know if i had to rebuild my engine considering what i wanted to do.

pornstar
31-05-2004, 02:09 AM
well if ur budget on ur turbo kit, dont bother, cos something does go wrong its all over for ur engine.

mr crex
31-05-2004, 02:13 AM
it was a complete conversion, 9k for the setup. if ur going to be skimping dont turbo ur car, just go i/h/e, not worth getting f*ck all gains because ur to tite to spend the first time.

as pornstar said ... if your going to do something do it right the first time.

if you want to do a turbo conversion on your engine you might aswell spend money and replace internals so you can run a stable setup that is capable of higher boost and power ... and if you replace the majority of your internals then you've pretty much dont a rebuild anyway, beside the usual stuff involved in a rebuild.

you say that now you wont drive your car hard ... but as soon as you turbo your car you'll want to take it hard and you will want more and more boost ... I can guarentee it hehehe ... so you would be better off doing a good setup now and have piece of mind for later down the track when you want to up the boost... cos we all know you will want to ;) ;)

pornstar
31-05-2004, 02:47 AM
not really, just that if u dont spend the correct amouts for the parts first time, ur likely to blow ur engine.

MR-VTEC
31-05-2004, 11:24 AM
when the time comes that i wanna up the boost i will sell up and buy a factory turbo car. so my new question is whats the cheapest bolt on turbo kit i could apply considering reliability for about two years and never running anymore than 7psi.

tanghy
31-05-2004, 02:15 PM
why don't u drive the crap out of the standard internals at whatever boost you want
then when it dies rebuild with forged components

MR-VTEC
31-05-2004, 11:03 PM
ok i shall just go do that now than shall i. as you tell i have a money tree where i will simply pick the leaves off and purchase a new engine!

tanghy
31-05-2004, 11:05 PM
cheap never = reliable
why don't u just drop the idea if you don't have the $$

it will be a never ending pit once u try to do it on the cheap and breakdowns start .. then keep recurring

MR-VTEC
31-05-2004, 11:18 PM
i realise this and im not saying i dont have the money but if you read the above posts you might have figured some of this out. there must be a way a b16a can be turboed running low boost and in a fairly cheap and fairly reliable way.