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preludacris
03-11-2006, 10:51 PM
u guys should know the tinnyness im talkn about that come with SS headers. How to get rid of that sound?
do ppl have suggestions?


i had the idea of possibly heat wrapping them? would only wanna do the secondaries and collector tho, as the primaries are blingin! lolz



any help would be great

teaseR
04-11-2006, 12:20 PM
yeah im in the same situation
was gonna go back to stock headers because of the sound
any ideas?

panda[cRx]
04-11-2006, 01:12 PM
u guys should know the tinnyness im talkn about that come with SS headers. How to get rid of that sound?


if you knew about the tinnyness why u get em? :confused:

spetz
04-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Maybe resonators and stuff?
Twin loop mufflers?


When you say SS is that a brand or you mean stainless material?
If so, would this happen with mild extractors?

preludacris
04-11-2006, 05:24 PM
']if you knew about the tinnyness why u get em? :confused:


ERrrrr, maybe coz i didnt know about it til i got them? and im saying, im sure many of you will know wat i'm talking about, because many ppl have stainless steel headers. does that make sense to u panda? so do you have any useful info to contribute then?

panda[cRx]
05-11-2006, 03:20 PM
so you are basically saying it is common knowledge but you had no idea. it makes sense to me but i find it stupid that you presume we all know something you obviously had no idea about lol

anyways alot of things contribute to the sound of of your zorst.

-muffler
-resonators
-piping diameter

i also notice that a large amount of people that have the terrible tinny sound have huge fart cannons

turbo convert
05-11-2006, 06:06 PM
i also got a tinny sound and all iam using atm is rs*r header and the rest stock but you can tell they will be tinny just when you flick the metal but then again performace gains vs noise i think i prefer the gains.
if there is a solution iam all ears

Twincam16
05-11-2006, 10:14 PM
When you mean tinny, you mean milo-tin rattle or that "machine-gun fart-sound" at WOT?

sivic
05-11-2006, 10:44 PM
how many resonators do you have in your exhasut system? and what sort of muffler?
in the majority of these cases an extra resonator will cut out the unwanted noise.
and dont wrap them. SS headers crack alot easier than mild steel.

dudeling7
05-11-2006, 11:09 PM
when i got my ss header it did the same....i have a 2.24 system with n1 muffler....

i added a 2nd resonator and it got rid of the noise dude...maybe try that?

what does your exhaust system consist of?

preludacris
06-11-2006, 01:17 AM
so firstly to panda, why even bother posting if ur just gonna be a smart arse.

and 2ndly

i have a Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back. its got a pretty large muffler, and 2 resonators, so my zuast is pretty quiet. actually b4 the header was installed it was just a bit louder than stock. after the header yeah the zuast note changed a bit and alot louder. but im experiencing a bit extra noise actually in the engine bay? well it seems like there is extra noise is coming from around the header area. is this normal ?

hrmm
could be my header farked. or vibrating against some heat shield or somethign. i'll get my mech to check it agian .. :S.

CUL8R
06-11-2006, 08:19 AM
hey T boy,
didnt u have ur collector modified??? hows that section doing?
have u mounted that lil bit on ur block? u know the mount thing that makes xforce headers crack? the one rich had problems with, that could be rattling, dont want to mount that but on the other side of the coin it could be the cause of unwanted noise

e240
06-11-2006, 08:21 AM
If the noise is such an issue to you guys, and that you already know its what S/S headers do, why don't you just change back to your stock headers? Cause if the noise if coming from the headers, no amount of resonators/mufflers is going to stop it.

Anyway, I can't understand what the issue is, that noise if just part and parcel of the whole system. Live with it if you want to modify, otherwise, leave it stock and if you can't stand any noise at all, go buy a luxury car - Dunno..Lexus? and leave it stock.

*OFF TOPIC*
Oh, and stop asking questions on "do i need to engineer?" If you've got to ask that question, please don't modify.

integrity
06-11-2006, 08:26 AM
it could even be a bad weld job

sivic
06-11-2006, 06:12 PM
from what you've said it's got nothing to do with the header being stainless. if the noise is coming from the engine bay then something is touching or one of the bolts at one of the collectors is loose. or you have a leak.
i've seen plenty of stainless headers on hondas and they sound no different to mild steel ones

preludacris
06-11-2006, 07:39 PM
i dun see why i can't modify and have it quiet at the same time tho. if it was such a big problem, then yeah i can go back to stock, but firstly im asking to see if there is a cure anywayz. dun ask me to go buy a lexus coz i want to get rid of unwanted noise, wat kinda comment is that ..:S

anyway, im starting to think the problem could be with a bad weld job, or possibly rattling against something.

CUL8R
06-11-2006, 09:40 PM
*OFF TOPIC*
Oh, and stop asking questions on "do i need to engineer?" If you've got to ask that question, please don't modify.
how random is that! where is the word engineer even said in this thread???

panda[cRx]
06-11-2006, 11:06 PM
so firstly to panda, why even bother posting if ur just gonna be a smart arse.

and 2ndly

i have a Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back. its got a pretty large muffler, and 2 resonators, so my zuast is pretty quiet. actually b4 the header was installed it was just a bit louder than stock. after the header yeah the zuast note changed a bit and alot louder. but im experiencing a bit extra noise actually in the engine bay? well it seems like there is extra noise is coming from around the header area. is this normal ?

hrmm
could be my header farked. or vibrating against some heat shield or somethign. i'll get my mech to check it agian .. :S.

wtf... if u wanna arc up u can ead dude

who was it that prompted you to most more info other than you have an SS header? u were thinking of wrapping them ffs.

now you are saying the sound is more of a rattle than the tinny resonance sound that headers such as xforce get?

if its the xforce sound imo wrapping wont do shit. i'd start with a secondary resonator as that should do the trick. if that fails u can look at other options like muffler etc

yourfather
06-11-2006, 11:21 PM
so firstly to panda, why even bother posting if ur just gonna be a smart arse.

and 2ndly

i have a Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back. its got a pretty large muffler, and 2 resonators, so my zuast is pretty quiet. actually b4 the header was installed it was just a bit louder than stock. after the header yeah the zuast note changed a bit and alot louder. but im experiencing a bit extra noise actually in the engine bay? well it seems like there is extra noise is coming from around the header area. is this normal ?

hrmm
could be my header farked. or vibrating against some heat shield or somethign. i'll get my mech to check it agian .. :S.

so you spend over 600 bucks on your muffler but like 450-500 on your headers? should be the other way around man, headers is where you maketh the power.

preludacris
07-11-2006, 02:05 AM
hrmm
yeahh i knowww, i dun really like my header, but serzly no point getting anything cheaper than an SMSP for a lude. The power gains of my xforce is pretty impressive with the modified collector. just the sound is bugging me. i can't even put my finger on it. coz when i got the header, it had a warped flange, and i only found out after i had it modified, so i dun think i can get warranty.

i've since had it machined. but yeah, long story, but atm im getting wierd exhaust note, some vibration kinda noise from around the cat area. and slight buzzing around the secondaries area.

i thought about heat wrapping them to reduce the actual noise from the down pipe, not the noise from the exhaust tip.

sivic
08-11-2006, 12:41 PM
i've since had it machined. but yeah, long story, but atm im getting wierd exhaust note, some vibration kinda noise from around the cat area. and slight buzzing around the secondaries area.

i thought about heat wrapping them to reduce the actual noise from the down pipe, not the noise from the exhaust tip.

vibration from the cat and buzzing from the secondaries isnt really the exhaust note.

the vibration could be poor mounting, touching etc..

the buzzing sounds very much to me like you have a leak.

both of these need to be physically looked at by your exhaust shop.

once again wrapping wont do anything. you shouldnt be getting noise from around the headers themselves thats any worse than stock. all signs point to a leak or something touching. wrapping wont fix either

either way, the problem is not the fact that the headers are SS