EK + B18C + ITB + DD-Tune + Shit Street Tyres = 13.51@103mph!

[barefootbonzai]

I kept a close eye on the this thread...

http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52043

Asked a few questions that no one answered, and most probably never even had experienced and just talking out of there arses as per normal internet e-mechanics. So i said wtf, let just do and see what happens.

Big thanks to Zi from JDMYard for hooking me up with the Goods.

And

Big thanks to DynoDave for hooking me up with the Tune.

Details of Engine Setup:

Engine: B18CR
Cams: Toda A (staight drop in, nothing else changed) - Dave is comming back tp dial in the cams later.
Headers: BuddyClub Race Headers
Exhaust: Mugen Twin Loop
Flywheel: Spoon
Clutch: Excedy HD Organic
Drivetrain: CTR gearbox with ATS FD
Misc: Spoon thermo n switch, koyo radiator, cusco solid mounts, hondata intake gasket, no ps, no ac.

Intake: A-Sport Individual Throttle Bodies!!!!!

Ecu: Hondata S300

Installation:

Didn't take that long, hardest part was working out how all the vaccum lines and IVAC was gonna work. Most people go with the log manifold, but i didn't have a dollar to my name so i just "T'd" off a bunch of lines to all the vaccum bits i needed. I used all the factory sensors too keep it OEM. Hooked the IVAC to a coolant source and that was pretty much it. It was a bit of messing around, but if you knew your stuff it wasn't that hard.

Before tune:

I was quite surprised to find that my bodgy install worked right out of the bat. The car ran like shit, but it still ran, lol. Idle would die wheneve it felt like it, can't change throttle position to quick or it just bogs.

After Road tune for A/F:

So after years of waiting, lol, Dave finally made it up to QLD. But i must admit it was worth the wait. We hooked up a wide band sensor and Dave started to fix up the fuel map and was quite happy with how the progress was goin. I was driving around that night, not sure what to think, cause it still drove like shit. Vtec was loud and wild but the car was no responsive or nice to drive at all. Was kinda disspointed at that point...

After Final Tune on Dyno:

Watching my car on the dyno was awsome. When ever vtec kicked in everyone had to block there ears, lol. The noise that the ITB's put is just awsome. The car started with 111kw and a f ucked up power curve. After some fine tuning - in the end we managed 123kw with a very nice smooth meating power curve.

After it was done on the dyno, i took it out for a drive again. OMG it was amazing, couldn't wipe the smile off my face. The car drives like stock, but just a shit load more power and torque everywhere. The power delivery was just unreal. Best part was driving normally, you would not know that i got quads.


Here's the only pic i have atm, will get some more later.

http://users.tpg.com.au/duydang/car/yeah.jpg

YOUTUBE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCe2XPlQKJ4

Graph - After today's Cam Timming Tune, lost 1kw up top but gained 10kw in the mid range.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6495/dynogrpkp7.jpg

Forget Dyno Graphs heres the facts:
13.51@103mph on Factory EK4 Tyres (Dunlop FM901)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9669/timeslipitboc5.jpg

Another pic for your Viewing Pleasure

http://www.angrybeeracing.com/pics/2006-Me/pov/mid_img_2653.jpg

Just in case you don't know what the car looks like.

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/3615/daycj3.jpg

EDIT - Don't trust DynoDave for anything. He currently still owes me thousands of dollars and has done a runner. His done this to many people on this forum.

[VTi_b0i]

excellent write up dang :)

[EK9]

Wow, damn awesome... Good review :thumbsup:

[JasonGilholme]

Nice mate. Very nice indeed.

I think i might go to QR next time just to see this car!!

You gonna get some sort of filter???

Jase

[bennjamin]

id love to feel that mid range and that noise now :)

[Filo_xtc01]

Daym! I knew i should have stuck around to see this car on the dyno...

Lookin good man...looks like everyone was happy with there tune from Dave.

[VT3C]

do u have baseline and tuned ITB dyno chart ?

[turtleEK1]

yeah... wanna see some dyno sheets!!!

[Zilli]

i just want to hear the thing!!!!!!!

[IZY-10]

^^so do I

[barefootbonzai]

do u have baseline and tuned ITB dyno chart ?

I don't acutally. I'll try to hunt them down, and if i do get my hands on them i'll post it up.

[ek4-guy]

Will be interesting to see how the rings last with no filter are you going to keep it a daily or just a toy now. maybe for street use you could remove the velocity stacks an fit a little uni filter from a motorbike on each throttle bodie

have you got any close up pics of the runners and the injector setup

[barefootbonzai]

still daily driving ;)

still full open atm

but yeah, i'm researching on some sort of box/filter to use.

more pics to come soon.

[panda[cRx]]

how do you find the noise out of vtec?
same as a pod?

i was this close to buying itb's myself last month *holds fingers together* lol

[barefootbonzai]

yer no difference with my AEM CAI.

[ek4-guy]

if your looking to put a plenum over the stacks try this link it may give you some ideas

http://www.rossmachineracing.com/intakeparts.html

[NeRV]

very nice read, would love to see and hear this in action man

[phantom_civic]

Far-Kn Marvellous bro!!!
Hey Duy, record a file of ur car on vtec bro!!

:)

[spardikis]

been a long time comin! hopefully ull be an influence for more of us :P

[skinnyboy]

good work mate, hopefully the noob armchair mechanics learn their lesson.

"you can't run ITB's on teh street..... blah blah"

bollox you can!


Awesome work!

[xtercii]

when you vtecing down to sydney?

[sivic]

still daily driving ;)

still full open atm

but yeah, i'm researching on some sort of box/filter to use.

more pics to come soon.

something like this could be the go :thumbsup:

http://www.twminduction.com/airbox.htm

[locote]

Let us know how u go when u take it to that track interesting to see how much ur times drop by and the increase in ur speeds:)

[fatboyz39]

just awesome!!!......

hopefully there'll be another setup like yours soon;) ;)

[barefootbonzai]

just awesome!!!......

hopefully there'll be another setup like yours soon;) ;)

lol sweet. by the sounds of things there's a few in the works already.

[Sir_vtec]

did u get an engineering cert for it?

[Edgeauto]

Hey champ just wondering if ur going to make a air box or something cause we're getting killer intake air temp readings with ours which is loosing KWs on the road.

[DreadAngel]

If its anything like what I've heard, I'd love your car...

[barefootbonzai]

Hey champ just wondering if ur going to make a air box or something cause we're getting killer intake air temp readings with ours which is loosing KWs on the road.

Yeah when i get time will defentitly be making/getting an airbox.

[CUL8R]

ur car is orgasmic!

[GnJracing]

Nice writeup!!! Got to say its one of the best looking engine bays around with loads of power to boot! You should do easy mid 13's going by how it went that night! I'm amazed at the noise difference from idle to vtec at full noise... just the way you want it!!:thumbsup:

Oh and I'll try get you a printout of your dynosheet... do you remember what the name of the readouts were for your car?

[barefootbonzai]

Nice writeup!!! Got to say its one of the best looking engine bays around with loads of power to boot! You should do easy mid 13's going by how it went that night! I'm amazed at the noise difference from idle to vtec at full noise... just the way you want it!!:thumbsup:

Oh and I'll try get you a printout of your dynosheet... do you remember what the name of the readouts were for your car?

Glen, i think it's 01POV, 15POV, 90LAN with some numbers before or after, if you could get some print outs for us that would be great. We gotta meet up again sometime, maybe thurs nite ;)

[locote]

Dang mid 13s, thats awsome TAKE IT TO THE TRACK:)

[preludacris]

how much it end up costing ?

[ALLMTR996]

Glen, i think it's 01POV, 15POV, 90LAN with some numbers before or after, if you could get some print outs for us that would be great. We gotta meet up again sometime, maybe thurs nite ;)
Yeah Dyno Dave said that all cars where tuned under the number plate ID.He said you tried to scare him Jason in your car haha will take a bit more than a N/A honda to put the wind up the old bastard:p
ALLMTR996

[barefootbonzai]

did u get an engineering cert for it?

Yes my car is all Engineered and Mod Plated. ;)

[Filo_xtc01]

So what time did you guys end up leaving GRP that night?

[barefootbonzai]

around 11pm. It was a long day.

[JDM_type_R]

it was worth it bro. UR CAR SPITS FLAMES!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOW hahahahahahaha gangsta shit....

[G AE82]

Yeah Dyno Dave said that all cars where tuned under the number plate ID.He said you tried to scare him Jason in your car haha will take a bit more than a N/A honda to put the wind up the old bastard:p
ALLMTR996

I don't know who you are. It was me who tried to scare Dave, with all my might. Will just have to keep modding till I can :p

[spardikis]

oi let us know the next run you brisie guys have - wouldnt mind givin the teg a run around with yazz! ;)

[G AE82]

Was gonna run tonight, but got rained out. We'll be out next wednesday the 15th with the K20 and a black EM turbo. Everyone should try and make it out and test their new setups :)

[Limbo]

Mate very happy for you, Hardest part about ITB is the tune and mking the thing idle properly.

With filters, i've seen them usually with small pod filters ontop, either foam or K&N style ones.

btw.. how's the fuel consumption?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

hehe i know of a certain eg doing itb's as we speak rofl

[90LAN]

being in the car sounds like a jet when vtec hits

[A'PEXi]

sprint day this saturday, u going? gotta hear this thing hahahaha :P

[barefootbonzai]

yeah probably. It ain't that loud when you're at QR with all the crazy race car.

[JohnnyVtec]

:thumbsup: Very nice!

Keep up the good work m8!

[BlitZ]

awesome bloody work..
and good power..

[spardikis]

oi this weds dude - willow bank quater mile :P might do another run, i knnow i can geta 13.8 hahaha

[CUL8R]

well thats a shame is barefootbonzai banned?
this threads gonna die in the arse!

[28RAG]

Any idea why hes banned?


well thats a shame is barefootbonzai banned?
this threads gonna die in the arse!

[bennjamin]

you abuse the rules 3 times and you get banned. Simple :)

He will be back dont worry

[CUL8R]

Any idea why hes banned?
check out all motor forum, something about what to do with my 6000 thread.


He will be back dont worry

oh very well:D



sorry bout the OT......back to talking about those sexy ITBs

[ON XTC]

DAMN!!

ITB! thats an awesome setup mang.

good to see someone is keepin it real ;)

[bradb16a]

Man that’s the shit. n/a rules two thumps up

[barefootbonzai]

well thats a shame is barefootbonzai banned?
this threads gonna die in the arse!

Too right i got banned. Just back in town now. Reason was because there is too many dicks that are just on here to put people down and talk shit so i had to say something. While some that contribute like myself, can get a mad ass ban for telling guys like that off.

All good, during my time off i got invited into EK Squad, special feature opportunity with another forum, which should end up in Honda-Tunning Magazine if all goes well. :cool:

[EG5]

Too right i got banned. Just back in town now. Reason was because there is too many dicks that are just on here to put people down and talk shit so i had to say something. While some that contribute like myself, can get a mad ass ban for telling guys like that off.

All good, during my time off i got invited into EK Squad, special feature opportunity with another forum, which should end up in Honda-Tunning Magazine if all goes well. :cool:

:thumbsup:
Welcome back dang ...
nwp ftw LOL

[CUL8R]

nice one dude ...wb

[barefootbonzai]

:thumbsup:
Welcome back dang ...
nwp ftw LOL

lol, Never Without Porn FTW!!!

[xtercii]

is that what it stands for?

[ALLMTR996]

I'm told the car is back on the dyno today looking for more power so it will be interesting to see what Dyno Dave comes with.
ALLMTR996

[barefootbonzai]

Spot on, just finished with the tune this morning. Didn't gain anything top end but a big 10kw gain mid range just from adjusting cam gears, Car drive absolutly beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I've got a vid of one of the dyno, pretty shit quality but it's something. as soon as i work out how ot use youtube i'll add.

[Filo_xtc01]

Saw this car on the dyno again today. As always it sounded like it wanted to eat some babies, this thing is loud

Man when you took Elee for a drive me and Dave could here that thing the whole time, crazy stuff mang.

[jdmlvn]

ohh man that sounds crazy!

[Benson]

Spot on, just finished with the tune this morning. Didn't gain anything top end but a big 10kw gain mid range just from adjusting cam gears, Car drive absolutly beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I've got a vid of one of the dyno, pretty shit quality but it's something. as soon as i work out how ot use youtube i'll add.

thats some sik shit there!

ill be up there on the 30th.... ill come n check em out

[BlitZ]

hahaa.. u got banned..
where is the clip la?

[phantom_civic]

I wanan see the clip aswell?

[barefootbonzai]

first page you monkeys lol :p

[zco]

lol. no one reads the first page. they just keep looking on the end for updates

sounds awesome barefoot.. cant wait to line you up haha j'ks

[JasonGilholme]

Thats sooooo weak barefoot.... your cars crap....

:p jks jks

Love it man! Top stuff!! you comin to the northside dyno day??

Jase

[Edgeauto]

Hey mate out of interest what did you set your cam pulleys too?

[barefootbonzai]

Hey mate out of interest what did you set your cam pulleys too?

Sorry man, you'll have to ask my tuner - DynoDave. Don't think he really comes on this site anymore though.

[newmski]

sounds soooo mean
love the cross-over (Y)

[chingaling]

still daily driving ;)

still full open atm

but yeah, i'm researching on some sort of box/filter to use.

more pics to come soon.


Fxxxxxx Respect quickest ek i've seen in brisbane. btw UNI FILTERS :D sorry im a noob =P

[ProECU]

Sorry man, you'll have to ask my tuner - DynoDave. Don't think he really comes on this site anymore though.

and I dont think Dave's going to devulge that kind of information.

Best thing is to set the gears based on what kind of power curve you want to achieve, top end, low end or a compromise.

[ALLMTR996]

and I dont think Dave's going to devulge that kind of information.

Best thing is to set the gears based on what kind of power curve you want to achieve, top end, low end or a compromise.
You know him so well :p
ALLMTR996

[timofytit]

Holy shiz bro, nice work

[barefootbonzai]

Just got back from the strip.

My best time for the nite, on stock EK4 street tyres (Dunlop FM901)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9669/timeslipitboc5.jpg

[EG5]

not bad at all dang!
Now slap on some 22x8x15 m/t and run 12s

[HRD2BQT]

grats on the time duy...like yonas said.....slicks shud get u to 12's.

goodluck with it all man.

[destrukshn]

not bad for a civic.
lol.

[xtercii]

very impressive.

[barefootbonzai]

yes yes, i'll try semi's next time should drop the time a fair bit. Then slicks for the 12's!!! :D

[GnJracing]

haha did just as I predicted! Great work D! :thumbsup: A very impressive time for regular street tyres! That mph will get you into the 12's with slicks no probs! But let's see some low 13's with semi's first! :p

We we're going to take the K but it hasn't been tuned yet, plus we thought it was going to rain. We'll try for the 7-11 on next thursday otherwise it will have to be 10 Jan.

Did anyone else run their honda's?

[Newcivic]

Well done Dang!

[edw-R]

Cong. Dang !! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[fatboyz39]

well done bro!.....

[DLO01]

Nice Dang. Good seeing You and the Car in action last night. :thumbsup:

[riceball]

haha did just as I predicted! Great work D! :thumbsup: A very impressive time for regular street tyres! That mph will get you into the 12's with slicks no probs! But let's see some low 13's with semi's first! :p

We we're going to take the K but it hasn't been tuned yet, plus we thought it was going to rain. We'll try for the 7-11 on next thursday otherwise it will have to be 10 Jan.

Did anyone else run their honda's?

I ran my car however didnt get a good run. My best was 13.66 with a 2.23 60ft. After that run my rear mount bent, defecting the other 2 mounts aswell.... and yes they are HASPORT ones aswell...:thumbdwn: :(

[barefootbonzai]

Yeah Sang screwed up his mount on the 2nd run, Hasport for ya...

Glen - there was a few other honda's but i think most didn't have a good night, even including myself launches were not the greatest, my little girl still had a bit in her. Need to pick up a set of them BFG's like you boys :D

Dean - Nice to finally meet you :P Did you get in any decent runs?

Thanks for the support from all the others.

[civicboy]

damn, i thought hasport is tough as

Congrats barefoot; impressive :thumbsup:

[Waggy]

Nice Barefoot!!! That gives me some goals to hit with my B16 when it's done....

I'm hoping for 13s :)

[Weq]

2.160ft is good on street tyres. That MPH puts u at about the same speed as a d-series greddy kit ;)

[DLO01]

Dean - Nice to finally meet you :P Did you get in any decent runs?

My best was 14.800

60' = 2.209
MPH = 95.5

[HRD2BQT]

I ran my car however didnt get a good run. My best was 13.66 with a 2.23 60ft. After that run my rear mount bent, defecting the other 2 mounts aswell.... and yes they are HASPORT ones aswell...:thumbdwn: :(

ouch..... some guys in USA recommend to weld another bracket on the rear mount just for added support. I'm just not sure where exactly on the mount it shud be done....

[barefootbonzai]

2.160ft is good on street tyres. That MPH puts u at about the same speed as a d-series greddy kit ;)

2.126 to be exact :p But yeah, guess i'm just expecting too much cause my Gansta mate pulls 2.0xx 60ft times on streets (toyo proxes).

and lol yeah, give some of the turbo boys a run for there money :cool:

Eoh, you might be on to something. I'll have a look when i get home, or if you're reading Sang, something to look into!

[HRD2BQT]

can u also take a pic of the damage for me?? thanks

[xtercii]

I have read a few cases of Hasport failure on honda-tech, I am starting to get scared.

[destrukshn]

only happens on the k series ones? would it be the amount of torque it has?
or just a bad design?
cheers

[JasonGilholme]

Most probably a poor design. Not to mention the lack of mounts. they only use 3 mounts instead of the OEM 5 mounts.

I'd be inclined to use the OEM torque mounts as well as the hasport mounts for the sides and rear.

[xtercii]

They only make the 3 main mounts but you have to put 5 mounts on anyways. And I wouldn’t think it’s because of the k20a’s torque, if that’s the case how they gonna cope with turbo engines.

[destrukshn]

so maybe a bad design.
lol.

[JasonGilholme]

Some people don't use all 5 mounts.

[barefootbonzai]

Yeah i'll keep you posted Eoh.

shit so many experts around. this is a k20 swapped EG we are talking about. Not unless you're gonna custom make/fit the 4th and 5th mount ("torque" mounts), there is only 3 mounts.

[riceball]

i dont know if you could use all 5 mounts actually... the bracket would not fit and would would probably have to customized your brackets by drilling your own holes.

Ill send you some of the photos later on tomorrow evening Eoh.

[destrukshn]

well.. can't you make a solid bracket that goes from the motor to the chassis? and not use the original mounts?
that way you would have to drill holes?
though you'd have to get a competent welder to do so.
lol.

[xtercii]

Sorry I was only talking the b-sries…

[destrukshn]

i was talkin about the k.
lol

[HRD2BQT]

well.. can't you make a solid bracket that goes from the motor to the chassis? and not use the original mounts?
that way you would have to drill holes?
though you'd have to get a competent welder to do so.
lol.


You can probably fabricate one, similar to the 85 Civic with K swap.

Duy / Sang
you might want to contact them since theyr from QLD too :)

[destrukshn]

i'm sure they could fabricate one.
but for the money you pay for a hasport kit, you'd think it'd come with something to compensate for the other 2 mounts that are not used.
=/

[HRD2BQT]

also depend on how the actual hasport mount was installed.....I bliv ther is a couple of washers included into the hardware to be used on the rear mount to even up the mounting point. The mount is made for LHD thats why. There's probly only a few who have the same issues with the rear mount but majority of the Hasport user is very happy with it.

[honda_b_blastn]

Yerp the rear Hasport mount has to be modified for the EG K series RHD swap,the small section that bolts to the powersteering rack has to be removed and re-welded to the other side. Well thats what ive done..:)

You must have run over a black cat Sang the way your going..:(

[Teggy-Vtir]

wd on the time! =))

[JasonGilholme]

Yeah i'll keep you posted Eoh.

shit so many experts around. this is a k20 swapped EG we are talking about. Not unless you're gonna custom make/fit the 4th and 5th mount ("torque" mounts), there is only 3 mounts.

lol my bad man. Thought you were talkin about the B in your EK.

[riceball]

i'm sure they could fabricate one.
but for the money you pay for a hasport kit, you'd think it'd come with something to compensate for the other 2 mounts that are not used.
=/

The amount of money you pay for the kit is like paying for a LV bag... it has lifetime gurantee :thumbsup: and also for quality. Im my case, i just happened to pick up a item of lesser fabrication, so they will replace everything free of charge

[destrukshn]

The amount of money you pay for the kit is like paying for a LV bag... it has lifetime gurantee :thumbsup: and also for quality. Im my case, i just happened to pick up a item of lesser fabrication, so they will replace everything free of charge
oh. lol.
i didn't know that part.
well that's a good thing, just a hassle i guess.

[DLO01]

Heres a vid, hope you don't mind. Don't think this was your best time. We were taping my mate in the Valiant hence we did not get your Time board.

Hope the vid works ok. :thumbsup:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/DLO01/Misc/th_Duy.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/DLO01/Misc/?action=view&current=Duy.flv)

[Mugen_B16B]

nice clip, was that the one u did the 13.51 i duy?

[HRD2BQT]

The amount of money you pay for the kit is like paying for a LV bag... it has lifetime gurantee :thumbsup: and also for quality. Im my case, i just happened to pick up a item of lesser fabrication, so they will replace everything free of charge

Thats good to know Sang :)

[barefootbonzai]

Heres a vid, hope you don't mind. Don't think this was your best time. We were taping my mate in the Valiant hence we did not get your Time board.

Hope the vid works ok. :thumbsup:



Thanks for that Dean, that was kool. I must admit your man was pretty brave bringing out a beast like that.

[civ_sik]

congrats on the cars peformance duy cant wait till you put some decent rubber on.

[z3lda]

love the spotz enjexsionnn!

[DLO01]

Thanks for that Dean, that was kool. I must admit your man was pretty brave bringing out a beast like that.

Yeh, Foxy in the Valiant is a cool guy. He was stoked when he broke in to the 18's. :p

Oh and be carfull how you say "your man". ha ha... :thumbsup:

[barefootbonzai]

Yeh, Foxy in the Valiant is a cool guy. He was stoked when he broke in to the 18's. :p

Oh and be carfull how you say "your man". ha ha... :thumbsup:

lmao, too right bro. Only just read that then. I think i meant to say something along the lines... "man your mate is brave" hahaha.

[barefootbonzai]

Another Pic for your Viewing pleasure guys.

http://www.angrybeeracing.com/pics/2006-Me/pov/mid_img_2653.jpg

[DLO01]

Ohhh, very nice. :thumbsup:

[Micko]

Nice work duy :D

[HRD2BQT]

ur car is pure sex duy :) one of Australias best EK

[STOCK]

nice time :thumbsup:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

im in love with your engine bay

[faijai]

thats bloody nice as man!!
thumbs up to you mate

[spetz]

That's awesome!
Your 60ft is surprisingly good for stock tyres!

[edw-R]

When you do a passenger as i did, you will be :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: !!

[Sexc86]

duy your car looks unreal mate... its come so far!... would love to see it with ctr head lights!!

[riceball]

duy your car looks unreal mate... its come so far!... would love to see it with ctr head lights!!

He has already got some... probably just cant notice them in the photos:thumbsup:

[barefootbonzai]

duy your car looks unreal mate... its come so far!... would love to see it with ctr head lights!!

i think what you are referring to is Fake/Replica CTR head lights with the black housing. I think i'll be just fine with my current ones ;)

[Steer^Gimic]

hey awsome stuff barefoot. imo, i think you might be more beneficial with an enclosed box instead of individual sox

[barefootbonzai]

hey awsome stuff barefoot. imo, i think you might be more beneficial with an enclosed box instead of individual sox

no doubt bro. just no time, money and really can't be stuffed, lol.

[EG5[KRT]]

well done man ! alot of hard work gone into that car and money of course :D

[egSi]

looks better on the white rims :thumbsup:

[jdmTYPE R]

barefoot u bastard....:P

[b20b]

great time :thumbsup:

I was using socks on my quads but if you dyno it again with and without them you will see big power difference

I just took mine down the strip same 60 ft as you ,,could not get tyres to grip with over 150kw atws ...need some practice

[barefootbonzai]

sweet, what tyres are you running? 150kw, that's some decent figures alright. Did you end up getting any times down?

[b20b]

got a few runs in ,,in the afternoon it was about 30 deg on full tank of fuel ...ok thats all my excuses... 14.1

Was using dunlop djo1 let the fronts down to around 15 psi to stop it hopping

maybe at this pressure i could not get any heat in the rubber to get them to grip

This is a circuit car just went to the drags just to see:)

[ginganggooly]

got a few runs in ,,in the afternoon it was about 30 deg on full tank of fuel ...ok thats all my excuses... 14.1

Was using dunlop djo1 let the fronts down to around 15 psi to stop it hopping

maybe at this pressure i could not get any heat in the rubber to get them to grip

This is a circuit car just went to the drags just to see:)

What was the MPH??
... And who's dyno was your 150kw made on?

[b20b]

mph was only 98 ...very low to me...i must be wheel spinning for a fair distance

[barefootbonzai]

there is definitely something wrong with your dyno reading if you only got 98mph, that is no where near a car that's really making 150kwatw.

98mph with 2.1 60ft 14.1 sounds just about right, but then that also points to only around 100 - 110 kwatw.

[ginganggooly]

there is definitely something wrong with your dyno reading if you only got 98mph, that is no where near a car that's really making 150kwatw.

98mph with 2.1 60ft 14.1 sounds just about right, but then that also points to only around 100 - 110 kwatw.

:thumbsup:

[b20b]

yeah ,i have been doing the mods to the car for a while and i started with 120kw now upto 150 ...It was actually making 159.9 but cause i track the car just to be safe 150 was good..
If i remember i think i got 98mph in my old crx with 100kw

[VTi_b0i]

how do u make it make less power? :S lower the boost? rofl

[b20b]

I just dug up my old dyno graphs...It was only 115kw to start with ..now up to 150 ..To drive there is a big difference
And lap times have droped quite well

[grumpy rooster]

mph was only 98 ...very low to me...i must be wheel spinning for a fair distance

If you were wheelspinning a lot you would generally find that your mph is higher than normal. With 150kwatw I believe your speed should have been up around 110mph.

[b20b]

If you were wheelspinning a lot you would generally find that your mph is higher than normal. With 150kwatw I believe your speed should have been up around 110mph.

i thought my mph should be a lot better than what I ran

How it felt behind the wheel was that i used up to much track wheel spinning in stead of excelerating quickly..with less track left to gain speed hence the low mph:(

[barefootbonzai]

Do you tune your own car? If not I think your tuner is having you on, giving you bodgy numbers on his dyno.

[b20b]

Do you tune your own car? If not I think your tuner is having you on, giving you bodgy numbers on his dyno.

No i dont tune my own car

I race against plenty of honda which all have pretty good power figures. i have no trouble making them look like there standing still:cool:

at the drags I had very hot engine bay temps ..just finished relocating the filter to the front guard ..I dont notice such high temp at the circuit as I have plenty of air movement..
Still doing this is not going to get me 1 sec

Did you let your tyres down at all...????

[phantom_civic]

This is Duys thread, dunno why ur hijacking it with ur 150kw honda.

Sorry if i offended u B20B, but this is just my opinion.

[xtercii]

Do you mind showing your dyno sheets?

[fatboyz39]

150 kw atw is big numbers!!....

[b20b]

This is Duys thread, dunno why ur hijacking it with ur 150kw honda.

Sorry if i offended u B20B, but this is just my opinion.

I know.... we just ended up talking about how bad i am at doing the drag racing thing:zip:
13.5 is a great time i think I'll wait till winter and try again

from talking to others about the drag times they have informed me that if you do run after run (like I did) there times went from 13.5 and ended up doing 14.1 in there rx8 ..Cool down of engine is very important..popping the bonet on the drive back after a run is a good idea and having it open as long as possible
and they informed me there girlfriend does 1.8 60 ft time preetty good

[sivic]

i thought my mph should be a lot better than what I ran

How it felt behind the wheel was that i used up to much track wheel spinning in stead of excelerating quickly..with less track left to gain speed hence the low mph:(
actually, the basic theory is that with a better launch ie: less wheel spin you cover more distance initially with a lower speed. therefore you reach the 60' mark with a lower mph. and then that leaves you with less distance and less time to reach a top speed.
so as mentioned, less wheelspin and a good launch will actually result in lower mph.
i'd put your car on another dyno. while the numbers wont be the same, different dynos should still be close enough to show whether you're being had, cos you're mph is way off for 150kw.
to put it into perspective, a B20 powered EK over here with ~ 175hp atw (130kw) was getting trap speeds of around 106 - 107mph (ET 13.3).

anyway, back to barefoots car lol

[barefootbonzai]

all good boys, we just discussing. but yeah 150kw doesn't seem right for the mph.

[Benson]

heat shouldnt affect engine performance that much. Its only N/A.

150kw is alot of power for N/A. You should be looking at doing low 13's

Pretty low on MPH as well...

[shebangs]

I love it, one of my favorite Honda's!

[ONE600]

Ive seen that EK evolve for along time now..had the pleasure of cruising with it. I would of done it the exact same way. Simple clean and fast.

Btw about the 150KW@wheels.. yes something doesnt add up here.. We are reaching 113MPH on a summer night and we certainly dont have 150KW..

[TheSaint]

is that what a mugen twin-loop sounds like?.... i thought it might sound a bit more ballsy... than again its hard to hear anything over the howl of the b18c lol

[big tone]

nice, i'm trying to do a conversion with a B18c7 within the nxt 3 months in my EK, not running itb's just running stock for a while except headers and intake..
did you do a run on the dyno with the stock B18c B4 you strapped every thing on.
BTW what suspension setup are you running?
I have tein with the EDFC i like it, id like to see how it goes on the track and strip..

[barefootbonzai]

Cheers Rob, would have been cool if you drove my car around QR to see what it's really capable of.

Lol about the mugen twin loop. It's main purpose is to keep it quite :P (need to hear the quads man!)

Yer Kiet told me about you doing swap, asked how for cain's or rocky (i forgot) was from me so i could give you a hand if you needed it. They got no idea lol.

[big tone]

Cheers Rob, would have been cool if you drove my car around QR to see what it's really capable of.

Lol about the mugen twin loop. It's main purpose is to keep it quite :P (need to hear the quads man!)

Yer Kiet told me about you doing swap, asked how for cain's or rocky (i forgot) was from me so i could give you a hand if you needed it. They got no idea lol.

rockvegas, no one here (mechanics) i trust either. waggy's going to give me a hand plus a couple of others too, seems to me the transplant is the easy part, it the re wiring that looks hard.

[big tone]

when its done i'll be comin down to brissy to get it tuned and give it a run at QR both strip and track..

[VTi_b0i]

Lol about the mugen twin loop. It's main purpose is to keep it quite :P (need to hear the quads man!)

exactly! quiet exhausts arer best on dohc vtec m0t0rs so everyone can hear them roar not stoopid cannon noise...

[barefootbonzai]

rockvegas, no one here (mechanics) i trust either. waggy's going to give me a hand plus a couple of others too, seems to me the transplant is the easy part, it the re wiring that looks hard.

correct about that. wiring is what i do ;)

[big tone]

correct about that. wiring is what i do ;)

the boys at DC MOTORS (honda) gave me the shop manual for integra 99-01
and 99-00 civic so hopefully that will help

[Waggy]

D, we're in Rocky mate, would love a hand from the POV boys if you wanna come to Shitsville for a weekend. :)

Tone, D has done heaps of swaps into his mate's (Team POV) cars, including a K20 I think (correct me if I'm wrong D) - so your harness would be more than safe in his hands.

We may even learn a thing or two as well - Backyard Mechnics FTMFW! Be nice to meet you too man...

[barefootbonzai]

hehehehe, if only you boys were closer! :P

[big tone]

6 hours from brissy less if ya drive faster..
anywho what sort of time fram for a conversion 2days or more?

[Waggy]

I'm waiting for D to say something like 10 hours lol....

[big tone]

thats how long it takes to get to mount isa..

still want to know suspention setup is on the car though

[Waggy]

LOL no no - I mean 10 hours for the engine swap...

Anyway - yeah on topic - I'm hoping to see something like 13.1 outta D's car...

[barefootbonzai]

lol yeah, usually 1 day for a swap with all the parts. But when things go wrong that's when it sux (it usually does).

[TheSaint]

Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai View Post
Lol about the mugen twin loop. It's main purpose is to keep it quite :P (need to hear the quads man!)

exactly! quiet exhausts arer best on dohc vtec m0t0rs so everyone can hear them roar not stoopid cannon noise...

do u have any vids of the car driving around normally... im looking at putting a mugen twin-loop on my dc2 (iv heard u cant beat em) + im still unsure... i want something thats gona sound awsome with vtec, not drone but not sound like a fart and have a nice beefy note to it =)

[destrukshn]

D you use ait tools?
lol.

[todas**t]

dude nice time nice setup and nice figure on a stock motor wish there r tuner like that here where i live...

[fishman]

that's pretty lame. My mates cousins brothers sisters mates car would eat you alive. He makes 300kw at the wheels.

[destrukshn]

that's pretty lame. My mates cousins brothers sisters mates car would eat you alive. He makes 300kw at the wheels.
and what car is that?
there's alot of cars out there that would eat this car.
lol.
but what's your point?

[todas**t]

hey barefoot can u hook me up with dynodave wanna get my car tuned by him to many s**t talkers say they can tune and still run s**t damn that flat spot..

[barefootbonzai]

i love you fishman

todas**t - just pm me man i'll contact dave for you ;)

[BlitZ]

that's pretty lame. My mates cousins brothers sisters mates car would eat you alive. He makes 300kw at the wheels.

Tommy from the Kebab shop has a 9 sec rotor..
300kw atw is lame dude ..


Good work barefoot..

[fatboyz39]

Stuff ITB....you need turbo :p....

[DLO01]

This car does not need a turbo, it already spins 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, I have been in it. :thumbsup:

[todas**t]

ITB turbo mate and blow the sucker up..

[ALLMTR996]

i love you fishman

todas**t - just pm me man i'll contact dave for you ;)
Yes barefoot is one of the very few that can get hold of Dave,he is on the special persons list on Dave's PC.
ALLMTR996

[barefootbonzai]

lol you monkeys, i already know turbo is full sick ;)

Yep, Dave's a hard man to get a hold off. But it's well worth the time and effort.

[BlitZ]

ITB turbo mate and blow the sucker up..


quad turbos.. 1 for each throttle..

[tct]

this civic is rubbish, my cousins sisters husband has a 11 second v8 holden and it's as u say.....NA!!! beat that u chongs

[fatboyz39]

this civic is rubbish, my cousins sisters husband has a 11 second v8 holden and it's as u say.....NA!!! beat that u chongs

Oh really now? Im pretty sure that car is not stock internally? Why dont u drop 4 cylinder and race us..

You cant really compare 8 cylinder vs 4 cylinder you bogan!

[[ricer]]

this civic is rubbish, my cousins sisters husband has a 11 second v8 holden and it's as u say.....NA!!! beat that u chongs


11sec v8 ute... i dont think is THAT fast when ur getting 4cyl na civics doing 12s

[.::F[L]Y::.]

...................

[ek4-guy]

lol where did all this crap come from people need to snap out of it ive got a commodore sedan V6 that will run high 12's an its mine not my mother's cousin's fag lover

but the point is we are talking about hondas

[fatboyz39]

lol where did all this crap come from people need to snap out of it ive got a commodore sedan V6 that will run high 12's an its mine not my mother's cousin's fag lover

but the point is we are talking about hondas

Its funny how ppl say their cars can run high 12's. But can it really/?? all i see is all talk. At least ppl like us go out their and have a go

[barefootbonzai]

this civic is rubbish, my cousins sisters husband has a 11 second v8 holden and it's as u say.....NA!!! beat that u chongs

lol, you monkey. Don't make me bitch slap you, hahahah. You know dam straight i'm a g ook and not a chong :p

[JasonGilholme]

Its funny how ppl say their cars can run high 12's. But can it really/?? all i see is all talk. At least ppl like us go out their and have a go

lol his car HAS run 12's. (the commodore)

He walks before he talks. :thumbsup:

Should get some semi's on there barefoot. Should help out heaps.

J

[Waggy]

This car does not need a turbo, it already spins 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, I have been in it. :thumbsup:

Are you f*ckin' serious Dang? Your car does that?

Holy shit.

[BlitZ]

the only 11sec in a commodore is done on a Commodore64..ahahah.. it aint a rotor it aint a motor

[jdmTYPE R]

the only 11sec in a commodore is done on a Commodore64..ahahah.. it aint a rotor it aint a motor

man that thing was the slows commodore ive ever seen so laggy..:p

[tct]

^^^so this barefoot car would make a good burnout car aye??? DO A BURNOUT!!!!!

[BlitZ]

^^^so this barefoot car would make a good burnout car aye??? DO A BURNOUT!!!!!


My old 74 ke20 (~15kw) does single wheel burnouts all day on the grass and in the wet ;) doesnt mean its anyfast.. just means its got no traction:zip:

[Denchy]

^^^so this barefoot car would make a good burnout car aye??? DO A BURNOUT!!!!!

:o and that proves what?

[tct]

that he can do a skid.... it's not hard to understand

[0098]

munch munch pistons for lunch

12a ported civic coupe

[Denchy]

lardeedar breaking traction....... still what does that prove? My wifes auto swift can do that. its the time slips that prove something... and he has em :D

[barefootbonzai]

I think you've been smoking way too much weed Tein.

[tct]

why dont u put ur time slips up hahahahah but then again u do drive a lancer and it's not an evo so it doesnt matter. oh and why dont u do a burnout???? bring ur wifes swift too, itll be so much fun!!!! ill bring my commi and we can have a gay old time!!!

[Denchy]

its not my car thats being discussed here champ ;)

[barefootbonzai]

its not my car thats being discussed here champ ;)

Wasn't too long ago that it was yours :p

[tct]

yeah we wouldnt want to discuss ur car anyway...it is a lancer...real men drive utes!!!!

its not my car thats being discussed here champ ;)

[Benson]

LOL @ v8's...

if honda made a v8 powered street car, it would be in a different league to all those commo's.

Honda FTW!!

[nigs]

WOW COMPUTERS CAN DO THAT?!

pushrods FTW.

[DynoDave]

Team POV :thumbsup:
Regards Dyno Dave

[hayashi_1986]

That is by far the biggest Vtec kick-in noise i've ever heard.

vrooooooomBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH HH!!!

[SLOWEGG]

Tissue?

[nigs]

Yes please.

[finch87]

being a student really sucks balls when u see this beast and all u have is a d16y4 :(. really really not fair

[DynoDave]

being a student really sucks balls when u see this beast and all u have is a d16y4 :(. really really not fair
There is nothing wrong with a single cammer dude be proud :thumbsup: its a Honda
Regards Dyno Dave

[riceball]

There is nothing wrong with a single cammer dude be proud :thumbsup: its a Honda
Regards Dyno Dave

Couldn't agree more, you gotta start somewhere. If you get the best too fast, you don't appreciate the smaller things.

[barefootbonzai]

yeah like us wankers hahahha.

[Waggy]

yeah like us wankers hahahha.

I was gunna say something but you said it for me - LOL :p

[Denchy]

Duys beast used to be a D16 :) from little things big things grow....

[SLOWEGG]

And it didnt have power windows!

[vertex_s15]

freaking tough set up....engine bay looks like its cleaner than most cars on the outside

[Professional]

Very Nice set-up. What is your brake system?

[SLOWEGG]

ITR brakes.

[kazam]

damn this car is crazy lol

[dEE_89]

nice n clean!!

[vinnY]

jesus how far back from the dead is this?

[GSi_PSi]

how much money does he owe you?

[bennjamin]

EDIT - Don't trust DynoDave for anything. He currently still owes me thousands of dollars and has done a runner. His done this to many people on this forum.

I dont get it....people you associate with , associate/work with Dyno dave ? So are they dodgy too or ?

[pure_na]

i thought he tuned this guys car...how does HE owe this guy money??

[barefootbonzai]

how much money does he owe you?

Enough for a built K-series...


I dont get it....people you associate with , associate/work with Dyno dave ? So are they dodgy too or ?

Dave is a cunning fox. He'll earn your trust, then fcuk you over.


i thought he tuned this guys car...how does HE owe this guy money??

Dave also builds motors. I paid him a good sum for a built K-Series back in May 2007 and still haven't seen it. I need to put in a small claims through the court system. Just been lazy.

[KLR-16A]

thats awesomee..still got more in it though. I did the exact same 60ft in my ek4 b20 and ran 14.1

[hondaboy2712]

awsome job mate and it sits tough with the te's

[newpaddy3]

awsome job mate and it sits tough with the te's

Dude, WTF. Epic bump.

Brought it back from the dead 2 years.