noise from changing wheels

[kenny]

hi guys, i recently just put on some 19" rims and lowered it as well. after that, i noticed that there is a small sound when it get between about 40-60 km/h. the sound is like "the wheels rolling", sounds silly but yeah haha, like a "room room room room" kinda noise. really annoying me. i dunno whether i'm just paranoid or if its because of the bigger wheels. any of you guys with bigger wheels notice any noise after you change the stock wheels? thanks guys.

[EuroDude]

When was the last time the wheels were aligned? Try an alignment and see how that goes.

Also try different air pressure in the tyres, such as 35psi at the front and 37psi at the rear.

What's the brand and model of the tyres?

[yfin]

I think the noise you are getting is from the different rubber. But why don't you take it to the shop that sold you the rims and tyres? After every install a balance and alignment should be standard procedure.

[kenny]

i actually bought the rims privately, not off a shop. i'll try take it for an allignment and see how it goes. is this kind of noise actually normal after upgrading to a bigger wheel? or should it stay the same as having the stock wheels on? tanx.

[yfin]

i actually bought the rims privately, not off a shop. i'll try take it for an allignment and see how it goes. is this kind of noise actually normal after upgrading to a bigger wheel? or should it stay the same as having the stock wheels on? tanx.
It depends on the noise. Noticing tyre noise is not unusual when you change to different rubber, especially if you have changed size.

Regardless, get those rims checked out by a tyre shop (and ask for a balance and alignment). Also what are the specs of the rims in terms of size and offset?

It is always a good idea when you buy rims privately to ask a tyre shop to look at them and check they spin true with the tyre off.

[EuroDude]

Tyres aint tyres, all tyre models behave and sound differently depending on the compound, the treads, wall stiffness etc..

Tell us what the tyres are, hopefully you dont have some cheap'n'nasty chinese/korean tyres. The Japanese and German ones are the way to go.

Although it may not be the tyres causing the problem. Your suspension or coilovers could be loose or something.

[kenny]

the tyres are Hankook Ventus Sport K104. 235/35/19 at the front, 245/35/19 at the back. the rims are 19 x 8.5 at the front and 19 x 9.5 at the back. i just went back from the tyre shop, and they say "its definitely not the allignment so dont bother alligning it cos it's just a waste of money". so yeah.

[euro77]

what's the offset of the rims? have you checked that the tyres are not scrubbing?

[tron07]

Did you do wheel balancing?

[tony1234]

the tyres are Hankook Ventus Sport K104. 235/35/19 at the front, 245/35/19 at the back. the rims are 19 x 8.5 at the front and 19 x 9.5 at the back. i just went back from the tyre shop, and they say "its definitely not the allignment so dont bother alligning it cos it's just a waste of money". so yeah.
Sounds like tyres 2 wide and scrubbing.245/35 is WIDE!!!Especially if you lower it.

[Int3gra-T]

the rim could be buckeled?

[yfin]

the tyres are Hankook Ventus Sport K104. 235/35/19 at the front, 245/35/19 at the back. the rims are 19 x 8.5 at the front and 19 x 9.5 at the back. i just went back from the tyre shop, and they say "its definitely not the allignment so dont bother alligning it cos it's just a waste of money". so yeah.

Surely they recommended a check of the balance though?

Odd choice of rim and tyre size for this car. And as above - what is the offset?

[kitbkk]

I thought everytime you put on new rims and tyres, tyre shops do reccomend you to do the wheels alignment and balanced? They did with mine
I would say it is the tyres thats making the noise.
Im running 19"*8.5 f and 9.5 rear. They tyres are even quieter than stock tyres, thanks to yokohama advan sports.

[curik]

I'm pretty sure they balance the tyres properly. And I have a camber kit and set the rear toes to 0, that helps minimising tyre noise too. And the wider the tyres you have, the more noise they will generate

[Atjo]

I have same spec as your, 19x8.5 & 19x9.5 with the same tyres 235/35 & 245/45, no problem at all with noise. Are you using coilover or just change the spring? If only spring maybe they didn't fit the spring properly cause it happened to me last time.

[kitbkk]

yeah
also check the tension too lol,

[kenny]

the tyres aren't scrubbing against the guard at all, its all clear. i'm just using springs unfortunately >.<, but yeah i'm pretty sure they fit the springs properly as i was there the whole time helping the mechanic fit the springs. i guess i'll go to the tyre shop and ask them to balance and allign it anyways, and see how it goes from there.

[kenny]

btw the fronts are +56, back +65

[ALN]

the tyres aren't scrubbing against the guard at all, its all clear. i'm just using springs unfortunately >.<, but yeah i'm pretty sure they fit the springs properly as i was there the whole time helping the mechanic fit the springs. i guess i'll go to the tyre shop and ask them to balance and allign it anyways, and see how it goes from there.


I don't think it is because the suspension. Spring or coilover ain't effect the noise ( if it is, would be different type of noise). I suggest check the tyres, wheel alignment, balancing, center ring as the other members suggested, but also keep in mind some tyre are naturally causing noise or might be caused by low thread on tyre.:D

[BiLL|z0r]

+65 back, could it be rubbing on the inside of thr suspension components then rather than the outside guard?

[euro77]

+65 back, could it be rubbing on the inside of thr suspension components then rather than the outside guard?

yeah, that's what i think, the tyre could have been scrubbing the inside wheel well.

Another thing you might want to check is if there are any foreign objects (like nails) in the tyre, sometimes that can make the noise (happens to mine a few years back).

[accordaspec]

make sure your bolts are probably tightened, might sound stupid, but could happen

[kenny]

ok guys, here is another thing that happen today. just as i went to my friend's house and up his kerb which is quite high, the seems to be a slight crunch/scrape noise from the back. the thing is, my friend had a look, and its not the tyres rubbing the guards. and the wheels are not rubbing against the inside of the suspension because i tested it when putting on the wheels to make sure it doesnt rub against the inside of the suspension. sorry to ask so many questions guys haha.

[yfin]

ok guys, here is another thing that happen today. just as i went to my friend's house and up his kerb which is quite high, the seems to be a slight crunch/scrape noise from the back. the thing is, my friend had a look, and its not the tyres rubbing the guards. and the wheels are not rubbing against the inside of the suspension because i tested it when putting on the wheels to make sure it doesnt rub against the inside of the suspension. sorry to ask so many questions guys haha.
When the car is stationary you are not going to see all the movement in the rear suspension so putting the car up on a kerb isn't going to tell you the full story.

The real problem I see is you have reduced the inside clearance by a whopping 4.8cm from stock (the inside of the wheel to the strut housing).

When you fit such wide rims to the Euro you actually want to reduce the offset from +55, not increase it. I imagine if your car is lowered you also have a fair bit of camber at the rear (do you have a camber kit?). Getting that camber reduced might help with clearance.

[aaronng]

I suspect rear tyre offset too...

[tinkerbell]

my freind took his euro in to Honda for a similar noise - they said it is is the driveshafts "binding" due to it being lowered???

anyone else have this issue?

[Adagio]

I dunno why Honda spends so much money on research and development when someone fits enoromous 19 inch wheels. They surely wont give better handling.Looks ain't everything.

[yfin]

my freind took his euro in to Honda for a similar noise - they said it is is the driveshafts "binding" due to it being lowered???

anyone else have this issue?

Do you have any specs of the car tinkerbell (eg rims and tyres?). If your mate is running aftermarket rims - get him to fit the stocks back on and see if the noise is still there.

[tony1234]

I dunno why Honda spends so much money on research and development when someone fits enoromous 19 inch wheels. They surely wont give better handling.Looks ain't everything.
Yeah.spend your money on good tyres,that's what i did.

[tinkerbell]

Do you have any specs of the car tinkerbell (eg rims and tyres?). If your mate is running aftermarket rims - get him to fit the stocks back on and see if the noise is still there.

rims - stock

tyres - toyo T1R 205/50R16

springs - Eibach Pro

shocks - stock

noise = only when driving straight at low to medium speed when not acelerating or decelerating

[yfin]

rims - stock

tyres - toyo T1R 205/50R16

springs - Eibach Pro

shocks - stock

noise = only when driving straight at low to medium speed when not acelerating or decelerating
Well I am no expert but I don't see how lowering the Euro 3cm can cause a problem with the driveshafts. What are the main causes of driveshaft binding anyway? Can anyone comment on that?

In all other markets (US, Europe and Japan) Honda/Acura sell the CL9 with optional Honda coilovers (non adjustable) that lower the car by almost the same amount as the Eibach Prokit. So for a Honda dealer to be certain that the Prokit has caused this problem is interesting. Worth getting a second opinion if this car in question is still within warranty (is it?).

[Entity]

if you are running +65 at the back with 9.5 inch rims u will most likely need spacers.

[kenny]

yeah the back offset is abit wrong, but i got spacers for that, and it supposedly should be allrite. i only changed the springs, not the shocks. could this be the cause? personally, i dont think so.