06 Accord Euro *discussion*

[sendok]

Hi all,

I'm just a beginner and I have a few stupid questions to ask ya'll >.<

1. Is that 06 Euro called CL9 as well? or is already changed? coz i see on some websites is not CL9 LOL...

2. The luxury one got sat nav, but I wonder is there any way we can modified the system so that the sat nav can play DVD or else as well?

I'm really need suggestion for you guyz :)

Thanks a lot ^^

Cheerz :angel:

[kam]

accord euro = cl9

also known as acura tsx

this'll proably be mooved to noob section

not sure about sat nav dvd thingy tho

[jamchen]

i believe the sat nav can be modded to play DVDs... but i believe you have to get a adaptor or something...
my suggestion is go and check the acuratsx website...
they should be able to help you.!
and the sat nav is optional for lux...

[EuroDude]

All the euro's in Aus are CL9.

The CL7 is the K20A 2L ones released in Japan and Europe
The CL8 is a 4WD version of the CL7
The CL9 is typically the K24A 2.4L 2WD variant, as well as the US TSX

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Chassis Code - ABA-CL7 | JDM Accord Euro R
Transmission - 6 Speed Manual Only | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
Weight - 1,390KG
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM&#179;
Compression Ratio - 11.5
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 162kW [220PS] @ 8,000RPMs
Max Torque - 206Nm [21.0KG/m] @ 6,000RPMs
Tyres - 215/45R17 87W

Chassis Code - DBA-CL7 | JDM Grade 20EL/20A
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
20EL Grade Weight - 1,400KG | 1,410KG (S SRS) | 1,420KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
20A Grade Weight - 1,370KG | 1,380KG (S SRS) | 1,390KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM&#179;
Compression Ratio - 9.8
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 114kW [155PS] @ 6,000RPMs
Max Torque - 188Nm [19.2KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs
20EL Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H | Factory Option 205/55R16 89V
20A Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H

Chassis Code - ABA-CL8 | JDM Grade 20EL/20A
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | 4WD
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.470M
20EL Grade Weight - 1,470KG | 1,480KG (S SRS) | 1,490KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
20A Grade Weight - 1,450KG | 1,460KG (S SRS) | 1,470KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM&#179;
Compression Ratio - 9.8
Fuel Tank Capacity - 60L
Max Horsepower - 112kW [152PS] @ 6,000RPMs
Max Torque - 186Nm [19.0KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs
20EL Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H | Factory Option 205/55R16 89V
20A Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H

Chassis Code - ABA-CL9 | Worldwide Grade (Based on the Acura TSX)
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
Weight - 1,440+10KG | 1,450+10KG (S SRS) | 1,460+10KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K24a DOHC i-VTEC 2,354CM&#179;
Compression Ratio - 10.5
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 147kW [200PS] @ 6,800RPMs (140kw for AUDM's K24A3)
Max Torque - 232Nm [23.7KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs (223NM for AUDM's K24A3)
Tyres - 205/55R16 89V | Factory Option 225/45R17 90W

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10168

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[EDIT] Added AUDM's K24A3 power output to the CL9 specs


...and yeh, satnav is optional for the lux

[sendok]

i believe the sat nav can be modded to play DVDs... but i believe you have to get a adaptor or something...
my suggestion is go and check the acuratsx website...
they should be able to help you.!
and the sat nav is optional for lux...

yeah i believe so, just wonder how.. :)

i'll try look around acura tsx forum for this. if anybody know, please help :p

and yeah this is noob question lol...

thx guyz

[sendok]

All the euro's in Aus are CL9.

The CL7 is the K20A 2L ones released in Japan and Europe
The CL8 is a 4WD version of the CL7
The CL9 is typically the K24A 2.4L 2WD variant, as well as the US TSX

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Chassis Code - ABA-CL7 | JDM Accord Euro R
Transmission - 6 Speed Manual Only | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
Weight - 1,390KG
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM³
Compression Ratio - 11.5
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 162kW [220PS] @ 8,000RPMs
Max Torque - 206Nm [21.0KG/m] @ 6,000RPMs
Tyres - 215/45R17 87W

Chassis Code - DBA-CL7 | JDM Grade 20EL/20A
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
20EL Grade Weight - 1,400KG | 1,410KG (S SRS) | 1,420KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
20A Grade Weight - 1,370KG | 1,380KG (S SRS) | 1,390KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM³
Compression Ratio - 9.8
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 114kW [155PS] @ 6,000RPMs
Max Torque - 188Nm [19.2KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs
20EL Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H | Factory Option 205/55R16 89V
20A Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H

Chassis Code - ABA-CL8 | JDM Grade 20EL/20A
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | 4WD
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.470M
20EL Grade Weight - 1,470KG | 1,480KG (S SRS) | 1,490KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
20A Grade Weight - 1,450KG | 1,460KG (S SRS) | 1,470KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K20a DOHC i-VTEC 1,998CM³
Compression Ratio - 9.8
Fuel Tank Capacity - 60L
Max Horsepower - 112kW [152PS] @ 6,000RPMs
Max Torque - 186Nm [19.0KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs
20EL Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H | Factory Option 205/55R16 89V
20A Grade Tyres - 195/65R15 91H

Chassis Code - ABA-CL9 | Worldwide Grade
Transmission - 5 Speed Automatic & 6 Speed Manual | FF
Factory Length, Width & Height - 4.665M, 1.760M & 1.450M
Weight - 1,440+10KG | 1,450+10KG (S SRS) | 1,460+10KG (S SRS + Sunroof)
Engine Type - K24a DOHC i-VTEC 2,354CM³
Compression Ratio - 10.5
Fuel Tank Capacity - 65L
Max Horsepower - 147kW [200PS] @ 6,800RPMs
Max Torque - 232Nm [23.7KG/m] @ 4,500RPMs
Tyres - 205/55R16 89V | Factory Option 225/45R17 90W

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...and yeh, satnav is optional for the lux

awesome info for me :)

thanks buddy!

[martizzle]

can this go in this topic? has any one seen this? i love it!! check it out..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7zwYCZcaY&mode=related&search=

[tanalasta]

Why does the AUDM version of the CL9 have less output than the other versions?

[jamchen]

can this go in this topic? has any one seen this? i love it!! check it out..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7zwYCZcaY&mode=related&search=

lol... i am in love with the EuroR now!!! soo nice! and its bloody fast! look at the revs!

[matt]

wtf AWD euro, thats pretty interestin, what AWD system does it use? thats asking for a turbo K20A!!!

good info +pq

[jamchen]

Why does the AUDM version of the CL9 have less output than the other versions?
don't they? i thought the AUDM euro is the same as TSX except interior differences...
the figure u saw on above post was for the Euro R version... which is K20A instead of K24A... and it revs to 8k rpm...:P

[matt]

Why does the AUDM version of the CL9 have less output than the other versions?

i think you read that info wrong we have the second most powerful version.
oh why couldn't we have gotten the Euro R:confused:

[EuroDude]

Why does the AUDM version of the CL9 have less output than the other versions?


From what ive read, its because in the US they use slightly better quality fuel (higher octane).

Our Euro's are tuned to run on 95RON. The US uses a different rating system, but I imagine their TSX's are tuned to run on something like 97RON/98RON equivalent. More octane = more power when tuned properly.


Honda Aus could have tuned our Euro to 98RON minimum, but thats not really practical. 95RON is expensive enough ;)

[_CiVIC_]

Because in the US they use slightly better quality fuel (higher octane).

Our Euro's are tuned to run on 95RON. The US uses a different rating system, but I imagine their TSX's are tuned to run on something like 97RON/98RON equivalent. More octane = more power when tuned properly.


Honda Aus could have tuned our Euro to 98RON minimum, but thats not really practical. 95RON is expensive enough ;)


Incorrect there buddy... the U.S has rubbish fuel... their "premium" fuel is based on 91 octane.

We have better fuel than them for sure!

[EuroDude]

not sure about that, the US use a combination of RON and MON to determine their octane ratings. I know Japan use very good quality / high octane fuel though.

Taken from wiki:

Different countries have some variation in what RON (Research Octane Number) is standard for gasoline, or petrol. In the UK, ordinary regular unleaded petrol is 91 RON (not commonly available), premium unleaded petrol is always 95 RON, and super unleaded is usually 97-98 RON. However both Shell and BP produce fuel at 102 RON for cars with hi-performance engines. In the US, octane ratings in fuels can vary between 86-87 AKI (91-92 RON) for regular, through 89-90 (94-95) for mid-grade (European Premium), up to 90-94 (RON 95-99) for premium unleaded or E10 (Super in Europe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline

[_CiVIC_]

not sure about that, the US use a combination of RON and MON to determine their octane ratings. I know Japan use very good quality / high octane fuel though.


I was in the U.S this time last year and I saw their highest octane rating was 91... and that was "premium" fuel....

still can't get over their prices.... $2.20 per GALLON!!!
Thats frikn CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EuroDude]

Maybe they tuned the engine to their ~99RON premium unleaded. Where is aaronng, he will know :p

[aaronng]

Muahaha I'm here. US fuel is similar to ours. When you convert their PON rating to our RON, it's almost the same with 92 for regular, 94, 96 and 98 for premium. The difference is that almost all of their fuel has ethanol!

Our fuel is better. The TSX was tuned for 91 PON which is 96 RON. I doubt 1 point difference would give 7kW, especially if their petrol has ethanol in it. The reason that we (and the UK) get only 140kW instead of 147kW is because of marketing. Look at the 2006 TSX, they got engine upgrades that now give 160kW. No other country get that engine... :(

[EuroDude]

Thanks for clearing that up Aaron.
How did they pimp 160kw from the K24A2? :eek:
Bigger intake and exhaust? More aggressive CAMs?

[aaronng]

Thanks for clearing that up Aaron.
How did they pimp 160kw from the K24A2? :eek:
Bigger intake and exhaust? More aggressive CAMs?
It's a long list.

Bigger intake arm
Bigger throttle body
Bigger intake valves
More aggressive cams
Vents between cylinders to reduce pumping loss
Larger exhaust (not sure if headers are larger too)
High flow cat
Retuned ECU

[_CiVIC_]

aaron.. i got mineeeeeeeeee :D

now i'm deciding on rims :p

[EuroDude]

Thats quite a list of changes.

_Civic_ why r u selling your unknowns? Dont like the look of them on the euro?

[aaronng]

aaron.. i got mineeeeeeeeee :D

now i'm deciding on rims :p
Coooool! Your 19s don't fit?

Someone hit my bumper and didn't leave a note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:

[_CiVIC_]

Coooool! Your 19s don't fit?

Someone hit my bumper and didn't leave a note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:


:eek: Incosiderate bastards!!


Nah my 19s don't fit.. the offset was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off! they were hanging out of my guards by like 1cm haha.. i'm going to sell these or trade them in for new ones...

[EuroDude]

Yep best to stick with +48 offset or higher ;)

U gonna get the same style? Or go for something different?

[_CiVIC_]

Yep best to stick with +48 offset or higher ;)

U gonna get the same style? Or go for something different?


different mate :thumbsup:

check the appearance section

[sendok]

Muahaha I'm here. US fuel is similar to ours. When you convert their PON rating to our RON, it's almost the same with 92 for regular, 94, 96 and 98 for premium. The difference is that almost all of their fuel has ethanol!

Our fuel is better. The TSX was tuned for 91 PON which is 96 RON. I doubt 1 point difference would give 7kW, especially if their petrol has ethanol in it. The reason that we (and the UK) get only 140kW instead of 147kW is because of marketing. Look at the 2006 TSX, they got engine upgrades that now give 160kW. No other country get that engine... :(

is that the advanced VTEC one? or am wrong?

[EuroDude]

I dont think the new K-Series Advanced VTEC is released yet (Full variable VTEC).

Its most probably just a suped up K24A2

[sendok]

I dont think the new K-Series Advanced VTEC is released yet (Full variable VTEC).

Its most probably just a suped up K24A2

yeah i believe so, if am not wrong in 2007 that full variable VTEC will be released yeah?

[EuroDude]

We could probably expect it in the new 2008 Euro, doubt it will appear in 2007 especially since the Euro has already had its Mid/Minor model change in MY06

Unless they release a new Sports / Euro-R with the new engine ;)

[aaronng]

is that the advanced VTEC one? or am wrong?
It's i-VTEC. But it is not the VTEC mechanism that limits power. All VTEC does is let you use 2 cam profiles.

[EuroDude]

Sendok is referring to the new A-VTEC or whatever they will call it :)

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/09/25/023029.html

TOCHIGI, Japan, Sept. 25 -- Honda Motor Co., Ltd. has further advanced its VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System) technology with the development of the Advanced VTEC engine, which achieves high performance along with outstanding fuel economy and lower emissions. The new engine combines continuously variable valve lift and timing control with the continuously variable phase control of VTC (Variable Timing Control). Honda plans to release a production vehicle equipped with the new engine within three years.

[aaronng]

I know, I'm stating that the 2006 TSX still uses i-VTEC and not Advanced VTEC.

[sendok]

Yes it's true... i-vtec only. i wonder how it feels like the advanced vtec... and, why they put accord euro on the poster of advanced vtec, not the others like integra or rsx..

hmm..

[EuroDude]

They used the Euro (Japanese Accord) to test the new K Series engine, possibly because the test engine was a 2.4L and not a K20A variant

[AP1 F20c]

EuroDude - Next time, bother to post your reference credits from where you get your information from.

Noel - TSXClub.com

[EuroDude]

EuroDude - Next time, bother to post your reference credits from where you get your information from.

Noel - TSXClub.com

sry dude,, I usually do but forgot this time. post edited.

[sendok]

I'll try to have a look TSXclub.com, hopefully can get what I need.. :)

[sendok]

gee.. it's hard to find one... dont think bother to look again for now.. btw, do an y of u guyz using mugen 2006 front lip? i saw it needs some modification to the foglamp..