what's a good spring combo with koni yellows?

[Dr4g0n]

as the topic, which springs would be good to use with koni yellow adjustables? i have mega low pedders at the moment and they're mega crap. Car is pretty low from stock too...don't know how much the drop is though.

the car they're on is an eg civic sedan

[Scandrew]

Have heard from many that koni yellows go well with king springs.

[alan]

u can get kits wif yellow koni shocks and red (koni i fink) progressive rate springs...dey work well for my car (my car is an ek but its the same kit)

[Kit]

I used to have Koni yellows plus King progressive springs on my civic (i think the springs were teh sport ones, not the super low).
I found the king springs to be a bit soft.

later i changed over to some Apexi progressive springs and they were great :)

[civex98]

Eibach Springs are made to be in line with Koni shocks..

[alan]

i thoughtdey were eibach springs but the ppl at koni said dey weren't eibach springs........ :?

[A'PEXi]

people usually use kings - whether they are good or not is another story :D

[genesis]

i got koni springs with my koni yellows

[luzinit]

i got eibach prokit with koni yellows, ! nice ride, not a big drop. however can be fixed by puttin the springs on lowest perch

[Kit]

people usually use kings - whether they are good or not is another story :D

because kings springs are cheap.
if you can afford it, please stay away from king springs

[LatinoHatchCrap]

just because they're cheap desnt mean they're that bad to stay away from.
Just pmed you dr4g's...

[Kit]

i've actually seen some very nasty stuff happen to cheap aussie springs (won't mention any specific brands though)
:)

[LatinoHatchCrap]

under what the conditions? what was the rest of the setup? what car?
The idea that cheap must be shit doesnt make sense to me. JDM or European springs are top notch agree?
Kings will suffice if you cant afford to spend 500 bucks on springs alone though.

[Kit]

hmmm one example, aussie branded springs and shocks on a WRX.
turning around a corner in the city (not caning it, just a normal corner), spring breaks into 3 bits.
car front collapses and the impact pushes the shock slightly into engine bay.

I'm not saying don't buy king springs, i'm just saying I don't have a lot of confidence in some locally made products so I will always put the best thing I can afford on my car.

If I can't afford to buy new, I usually either don't mod it until I can afford it or wait around till i find some second hand stuff :)

[carbine]

gc sleeves with eibachs

[poid]

i use Kmac with Koni yellows, custom spring rate though. Really the Yellows will match to any spring you get short of outright racing springs due to the adjustability

[CustomCivic]

i had the yellow koni adjustables with super low king springs on my civic. i was pretty happy with the setup.. nice and firm

[LatinoHatchCrap]

hmmm one example, aussie branded springs and shocks on a WRX.
turning around a corner in the city (not caning it, just a normal corner), spring breaks into 3 bits.
car front collapses and the impact pushes the shock slightly into engine bay.

I'm not saying don't buy king springs, i'm just saying I don't have a lot of confidence in some locally made products so I will always put the best thing I can afford on my car.

If I can't afford to buy new, I usually either don't mod it until I can afford it or wait around till i find some second hand stuff :)
I've never heard of "any" coilsprings ever breaking into bits.
I have however witnessed, and have been a victim of, springs sagging and changing shape under "extreme" conditions such as rally or course racing.
Would you mind elaborating on the car itself. What was the rest of the setup? Was the car course raced or rallyed?
Im not having a go at you btw. I just find it hard to fathom how what you have stated could actually occurr to me or anyone who decides to invest in kings.

-Joe

[VTEC16]

hmmm one example, aussie branded springs and shocks on a WRX.
turning around a corner in the city (not caning it, just a normal corner), spring breaks into 3 bits.
car front collapses and the impact pushes the shock slightly into engine bay.

I'm not saying don't buy king springs, i'm just saying I don't have a lot of confidence in some locally made products so I will always put the best thing I can afford on my car.

If I can't afford to buy new, I usually either don't mod it until I can afford it or wait around till i find some second hand stuff :)
I've never heard of "any" coilsprings ever breaking into bits.
I have however witnessed, and have been a victim of, springs sagging and changing shape under "extreme" conditions such as rally or course racing.
Would you mind elaborating on the car itself. What was the rest of the setup? Was the car course raced or rallyed?
Im not having a go at you btw. I just find it hard to fathom how what you have stated could actually occurr to me or anyone who decides to invest in kings.

-Joe

Iv heard similar stories on american forums about cheap sussy parts...

[SiR JDM]

What do people think about Apex or Tein springs?

I was offered a pair of Apex ones for 270$ a set.. closing down sale..

but people tell me Tein is the way to go..

anyone used or know anything about either?

[ginganggooly]

i have a whiteline springs matched to my koni yellows. i'm very pleased with the setup.

provided you get springs that are the right rate for what you're after, the brand really isn't important. as for eibach, h&r, tein etc. people tend to recommend these brands because of their higher percieved quality. they are good products, but they aren't necessarily better than the locally made items.

regarding the stories about sagging, cracking etc. -i've only heard of that happening due to running cut springs.

[Kit]

hmmm one example, aussie branded springs and shocks on a WRX.
turning around a corner in the city (not caning it, just a normal corner), spring breaks into 3 bits.
car front collapses and the impact pushes the shock slightly into engine bay.

I'm not saying don't buy king springs, i'm just saying I don't have a lot of confidence in some locally made products so I will always put the best thing I can afford on my car.

If I can't afford to buy new, I usually either don't mod it until I can afford it or wait around till i find some second hand stuff :)
I've never heard of "any" coilsprings ever breaking into bits.
I have however witnessed, and have been a victim of, springs sagging and changing shape under "extreme" conditions such as rally or course racing.
Would you mind elaborating on the car itself. What was the rest of the setup? Was the car course raced or rallyed?
Im not having a go at you btw. I just find it hard to fathom how what you have stated could actually occurr to me or anyone who decides to invest in kings.

-Joe

nope, it was just a street car, never raced before. They weren't kings btw, but another local brand.

[BoneZee®]

I've got H&R spring with mine and im very happy

[SIKCVC]

When i baught my springs i baught them just for the lowering factor (a good 2 years ago now) so i went for pedders (knowing jack about cars back then) They sagged a fractional amount after about a month and have been the same ever since, They're nothing fantastic but they're not as shit as your making them out to be :shock: and I'm no angel with my cornering, even on my L's i was pushing it damn hard. But dont buy them with sports driving intended :P I baught them for lowering and they've done a good job up until now and sufficed my cornering addiction, but I'm moving on and upgrading to koni sport adjustable shocks first then looking into new springs.

[pornstar]

Id go get a full coilover vinh :)

[BlitZ]

i use to have kings..
i love them, but wouldnt consider them a performace spring.. too soft for my liking..

but the quality of kings is proabably the best for the local producers. whiteline sucks! im using them now.. handles great.. but the quality and finish is poor and lacks thought.. My coils rub and all. The only thing they got right is the spring weight which they probabaly copied from a jap spring .... ahaha

If your are poor get king springs and specifiy them a spring weight..
If your lazy just buy whiteline springs...

ELSE get jap springs.. apexi etc!
german springs - HandR eibachi

[ylo00w]

Just got Koni Sports shock fitted this week using Tein H-Tech springs. Drives like a dream.

[joneblaze]

Danny isn't Eibach a German make? lol

ylo00w, what's the difference between Tein H-Tech and S-Tech springs?

[carbine]

Eibach springs are the best road springs you can get, suspension is all they do. Most of the big coilover and suspension specialists (read european not jap crap) use Eibach springs. They arent like apexi or other jap makers who just outsource all their parts.

You want linear springs not progressive with koni yellows.

[mo]

Danny isn't Eibach a German make? lol

ylo00w, what's the difference between Tein H-Tech and S-Tech springs?

AFAIK S-Tech offer a bigger drop and also offers a higher spring rate on the rear as opposed to the H-Tech.

Please correct me if I'm wrong

[Taxi-R]

yeah i got em. to get any decent feel of this setup, u have to set the shocks on pretty much full "firm". funny thing is, my front is lower than the rear. i mean, the front tyres r "just" in the guards and the rear i have like 1 finger gap. i figure that maybe if i change the front to sportlines and raise it a notch, it will have a better feel??

it's pretty good i guess as the stiffer the ride, the harsher the quality. and in melbourne, u dun want it too stiff *bloody tram tracks and bumpy roads and SPEED BUMPS*

there's still some body roll and it doesn't help when u don't exactly fill out ur sits as u can literally feel urself swing from side to side...i only take the odd corner harder like goin into the freeway but that's abt it...

all u with koni yellows on their ek's, how many height settings u got on the front? i only have two. i was told there's meant to b three...

[ylo00w]

yeah i got em. to get any decent feel of this setup, u have to set the shocks on pretty much full "firm". funny thing is, my front is lower than the rear. i mean, the front tyres r "just" in the guards and the rear i have like 1 finger gap. i figure that maybe if i change the front to sportlines and raise it a notch, it will have a better feel??

it's pretty good i guess as the stiffer the ride, the harsher the quality. and in melbourne, u dun want it too stiff *bloody tram tracks and bumpy roads and SPEED BUMPS*

there's still some body roll and it doesn't help when u don't exactly fill out ur sits as u can literally feel urself swing from side to side...i only take the odd corner harder like goin into the freeway but that's abt it...

all u with koni yellows on their ek's, how many height settings u got on the front? i only have two. i was told there's meant to b three...

I hear you, just got koni fitted this week and only have 2 in front and 3 in the rears. Thinking of getting another grove put in the middle for the front to get the look that im after as H-Techs only lower 1.5 inch, but still is happy

Regards,

[ylo00w]

Danny isn't Eibach a German make? lol

ylo00w, what's the difference between Tein H-Tech and S-Tech springs?

H-Techs only drops around 1.5 inch and uses this material called Vanadium which is very light.

[Civic Si]

Danny isn't Eibach a German make? lol

EiBach is German. :nod:

[BlitZ]

hehehe sorry yes it is... .. and also H and R..
So get german or japanese ones.heheh..