Euro wins Drive Car of The Year

[blk05gli]

standard model beats suby liberty 3.0R, Jetta etc

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniSite/MiniSiteArticleDetail.aspx?MiniSiteID=2&ArticleID=21830

Nice.:thumbsup:

[tony1234]

standard model beats suby liberty 3.0R, Jetta etc

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniSite/MiniSiteArticleDetail.aspx?MiniSiteID=2&ArticleID=21830

Nice.:thumbsup:

Yeah.Good one!!!

[industrie]

fantastic!

[EuroDude]

Nice! Maybe punters will buy the euro now instead of every man and his dog buying a boring average-joe camry lol

too many toyotas on the road I tells ya :p

[tanalasta]

Surprised I didn't see the Mazda 6 amongst the finalists.

But I was darn pleased to see the Euro *gives car a big hug*

[tony1234]

Average punters buy a car on looks,features,price and marketing hype.Most don't bother to do much research despite the amount of info.available eg.the net,car mags,sites like drive etc.THATS why i think so many punters buy Commodores!!!

[tony1234]

[QUOTE=tanalasta;992431]Surprised I didn't see the Mazda 6 amongst the finalists.
So was i!!!

[industrie]

for value the euro has all the good stuff...I do agree with the new camry being underpowered...117KW for a 1400kg car...thats pretty pathetic...the aurion is another story...

[EuroDude]

1415kg-1480kg 117kw 5SPAuto/man....zzzzzzzz


SLOWTIVO ftw lol

[aaronng]

Surprised I didn't see the Mazda 6 amongst the finalists.

But I was darn pleased to see the Euro *gives car a big hug*
Back when it was first released, the 6 was a good car. But unfortunately, Mazda did not choose to upgrade the powerplant to challenge their competitors... Being average doesn't help it reach the final comparison.

[aaronng]

Average punters buy a car on looks,features,price and marketing hype.Most don't bother to do much research despite the amount of info.available eg.the net,car mags,sites like drive etc.THATS why i think so many punters buy Commodores!!!

The commodore is good value for money though. V6 at such a low price. Pity about the quality.

[K24A]

woot....go da euro!!!

[Tobster]

What was also interesting was that it came third in the people's choice (behind the Commodore SS-V and BMW 335:

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=21817&vf=2

There are a lot of people out there who regard the Euro as a good car.

[IAMVTEC]

Yea well done Honda. I agree with the decision since based on all round value, nothing on the market is better than Accord euro.

[EuroDude]

One must wander why they released the normal Thailand Accord here, sales are like 10:1 :p


Hopefully Honda AUS will use the Euro's success an excuse to release the UK Civic Hatch here :D

[IAMVTEC]

Hopefully Honda AUS will use the Euro's success an excuse to release the UK Civic Hatch here :D

Hopefully not, thats a terrible looking car that will be priced too high in comparison to the Civic sedans. It will just make consumers lose focus on what the Civic is about(the best value economy car). If they want to bring in a hatch as a type R thats fine but not just the stock hatch, they already have the Jazz at a far more competitive price!

[aaronng]

One must wander why they released the normal Thailand Accord here, sales are like 10:1 :p


Hopefully Honda AUS will use the Euro's success an excuse to release the UK Civic Hatch here :D

Why would they use the Euro's success to release the UK Civic here?

[EuroDude]

Why would they use the Euro's success to release the UK Civic here?

Because releasing two similar models and letting the public decide which one to buy will increases sales ;)

For instance IAMVTEC would prefer to get the Thai Civic, but many of us here would prefer the UK civic. You can just imagine how many people considered our Thai Civic but didnt like the styling or prefered a hatch and got a corolla, focus, polo, or mazda3 instead

[IAMVTEC]

But they can just get the Jazz if they didnt like the Civic sedan!! I agree more choice is good but having too much choice dilutes the focus of the company. I dont think they should release every variety of Honda known to man.

I think by having 2 versions of Accord, is already enough. If they overdo it, nobody would buy Hondas in the future since they know a year or two later, a different model will come out.

[aaronng]

Because releasing two similar models and letting the public decide which one to buy will increases sales ;)

For instance IAMVTEC would prefer to get the Thai Civic, but many of us here would prefer the UK civic. You can just imagine how many people considered our Thai Civic but didnt like the styling or prefered a hatch and got a corolla, focus, polo, or mazda3 instead

It costs over a hundred thousand dollars to do crash testing and ADR compliance papers for each model. Honda isn't going to bring in a model just to find out if people accept it. There must be a reason. For the Accord, they knew that the Euro would not be compared to the previous Camry because of size differences. They can't justify that much expenditure on testing just because they think that the hatch might sell well. Anyway, the civic is in the small sedan class, not hatch. And Honda did bring in the UK hatch as the 7th gen (EP). Nobody wanted to buy them!

And just because the Civic is made in Thailand doesn't make it a bad car. It's the same car as the JDM Civic!

[EuroDude]

Some good points. But imo I think the Civic Hatch would have done very well considering how many EG and EK civic hatches are out there. The Jazz is more of an Echo style econo-car, rather than a hot hatch ;)

[aaronng]

Some good points. But imo I think the Civic Hatch would have done very well considering how many EG and EK civic hatches are out there. The Jazz is more of an Echo style econo-car, rather than a hot hatch ;)

The reason why the EG and EK are so popular now is because they can be had for cheap and have a B series transplanted into them. You can't do that with the new civic.

[EuroDude]

Yeh but the new Civic hatch would already have a beast of an engine, except for maybe the lower model(s) but you could probably plonk a DC5R engine in there in 10 years with minimal hassle :p

Plus all those EK's and EG's had to of come from somewhere, which means they sold like hot cakes when new.

[aaronng]

Yeh but the new Civic hatch would already have a beast of an engine, except for maybe the lower model(s) but you could probably plonk a DC5R engine in there in 10 years with minimal hassle :p

Plus all those EK's and EG's had to of come from somewhere, which means they sold like hot cakes when new.

New civic's engine is the same as the VTi. They don't have the 2.0L option like our Civic Sport. And it's not a beast of an engine. It's a great engine for emissions and fuel consumption. But not power.

A DC5R's K20A won't be a direct swap. You need a new instrument cluster unless you go for a $7000 aftermarket ECU. Add in driveshafts, radiator, custom mounts, custom exhaust, you might as well buy a brand new DC5R if that was possible.

When EK and EGs were new, they were not bought new by people of our age category. Most current owners of EG and EKs bought them 2nd hand.

[Silver-Arrowz]

I knew I made a good choice! Can't wait to take delivery of it now.

[80057]

im with you there.

its my first brand new car and almost triple the cost of my last car. so im glad to hear its good everywhere

[J-TODA]

woot....go da euro!!!

I 2nd ur opinion .....WHHOOOO GO the EURO!!!!...and to think i might have gotten the liberty...pchhhh best decision i ever made LOL!!!!!

[Pumped]

The only thing the euro needs is a little bit more power & more torque lol

[EuroDude]

The only thing the euro needs is a little bit more power & more torque lol

Grab a new 160kw MY06 TSX K24A2 engine and chuck that in ur Euro ftw :p

[sendok]

hu Yeah!

[DJR]

Just read the article in the paper. Thought this would be a worthy 1st post to the Forum after monitoring for a few months now.

Nice to know that my new car is a winner. Also reinforces my choice after comparing to numerous alternatives.

[IAMVTEC]

It isnt actually really Car of the year, its Medium car of the year. Car of the year was Audi TT which I hate.

[tron07]

I knew it was a good car, thats why I got it :D

[_CiVIC_]

yayyyyyy yah! go the Euro...

but i hate the standard wheels..... i neeed to get the luxury rims or some nice aftermarket rims STAT!

[EuroDude]

yayyyyyy yah! go the Euro...

but i hate the standard wheels..... i neeed to get the luxury rims or some nice aftermarket rims STAT!

couldnt agree more :honda:

[aaronng]

^^ you guys lost out. The 03-05 standard wheels are nice. The 06 ones are ghey.

[EuroDude]

yeh the 03-05 5-spoke ones aren't too bad for stock wheels.

16" is too small though. Wat wheels do u have aaron?

[BiLL|z0r]

^^ you guys lost out. The 03-05 standard wheels are nice. The 06 ones are ghey.

True but we lost out on trip computer. Easier to add diff wheels then trip computer :(

[aaronng]

LOL, true that. But I just measure fuel consumption when I fill up at the pump. It's more accurate that way too.

[J-TODA]

^^ you guys lost out. The 03-05 standard wheels are nice. The 06 ones are ghey.

true that....realli disliking my wheels atm....definetly gonan go aftermarket afta the first service...

opinions of which size best fits a stocke euro??? ( off topic )

[80057]

tru, i like the double five spokes, the new lux ones arent terrible but they arent great either.

surprising how wheels can dull or brighten a car so much.

[Type R Positive]

opinions of which size best fits a stocke euro??? ( off topic )
Ask steve, he got 20's!!! :cool:

I like 18x8's in a +42 or +45. As for which ones, that is up to you! :thumbsup:

[aaronng]

I'd prefer 8" in +48. +42 just hits the rear fender if you try to get the camber back to spec.

[aaronng]

yeh the 03-05 5-spoke ones aren't too bad for stock wheels.

16" is too small though. Wat wheels do u have aaron?

I'm using the stockies!

[Fr3aKi3]

^^ you guys lost out. The 03-05 standard wheels are nice. The 06 ones are ghey.

Gotta agree with you on that one, 05 Lux ftw!

[80057]

honda do have a nice 17 solid 5 spoke, see honda website accesories section.

but i got quoted 2,700. which i thought was abit rich considering the last 17's i bought were under 2k with rubber.

[EuroDude]

I'm using the stockies!


All those mods and still have the stock wheels?
The wheels complete a cars appearance :cool:

At least your tyres are cheaper to buy :D

[aaronng]

All those mods and still have the stock wheels?
The wheels complete a cars appearance :cool:

At least your tyres are cheaper to buy :D

LOL, all my mods are bad for the car. Read my sig properly. LOL

Stockies are good, people are less inclined to steal stockies.

[Chris_F]

I'd prefer 8" in +48. +42 just hits the rear fender if you try to get the camber back to spec.

i have 17x8" +42 offest and my camber is within spec all round - never get rubbing on the rear fender, only very rarely at the front over large bumps (I'd like to run slightly more camber in the front anyway)

If i had the choice though +48 would be much better, at that offest i doubt you'd have to worry about rubbing at all

[tony1234]

Stockies are good, people are less inclined to steal stockies.[/QUOTE]
I traded my o6 17s in on my new wheels and got $190.00each.Changeover(i stayed with 17s) was $130.00 inc.removal of tyres,refitting,balance.I thought that was good.:p

[aaronng]

i have 17x8" +42 offest and my camber is within spec all round - never get rubbing on the rear fender, only very rarely at the front over large bumps (I'd like to run slightly more camber in the front anyway)

If i had the choice though +48 would be much better, at that offest i doubt you'd have to worry about rubbing at all

Yeah, +48 if the guy is following camber specs.

How wide are your tyres? Was referring to 225 width tyres on 8" at +42 offset.

[Chris_F]

Yeah, +48 if the guy is following camber specs.

How wide are your tyres? Was referring to 225 width tyres on 8" at +42 offset.

my tyres are a 225 width and my camber is well within spec, what information is the rear fender rubbing issue based off? I've never rubbed in the rear:confused:

[aaronng]

Was on another Euro here in Sydney. I checked the rear and the edge of the tyre lined up with the inner edge of the fender. The car wasn't lowered though.

[Chris_F]

The edge of my tyre is about in line with the inner edge of the fender as well and it's about the same in the front (1 or 2mm further out). If you don't lower the car excessively the offset and width works, you'd have to run more aggressive negative camber if you wanted to go lower than 2-2.5" though.

On a side note... did anyone else vote for the peoples choice award? I voted for the euro and apparently the vote enters you in a draw for a cash/car prize (can't remember)

[euro77]

225 can use 7.5", who go 8"? heavier :D

[Chris_F]

225 can use 7.5", who go 8"? heavier :D

got my rims second hand, so i didn't really have a choice (they don't come up that often). But running a wider rim should make for a firmer sidewall and reduce ballooning (225 with 7" ballooned a bit)? I was also considering a 235 tyre but the offest of the rim might not make that possible. Just on a side a 17x7.5 te37 would have been slightly heavier anyway and i don't really like the look of ce28n with the OEM kit.;)

[blk05gli]

It isnt actually really Car of the year, its Medium car of the year. Car of the year was Audi TT which I hate.

yep - Euro wins Drive "Medium" car of the year