oil pressure gauge install

[Mr_will]

I have just purchased a relatively low quality oil pressure gauge from repco as they were on special.

the installation instructions are suggesting that i remove the stock oil pressure switch which goes to the oil pressure warning light.
i dont want to do this for three reasons:

1) space is tight as a 4 year old down there (near the oil filter) and i cant see what im doing

2) i would like to keep the stock pressure switch just for peace of mind

3) i will need to run some sort of t adaptor if i use that switch, which i dont have and dont feel like finding


So, people on g2ic seem to be saying that there are places on the distributor side that could be used to get a pressure send (im assuming mechanical not electrical).

Does anyone know where these are? Engine is a b18a, in a da9.

Cheers

[JasonGilholme]

Its piss easy to get off once your under the car. remove the filter, 24 mm deep socket and your away.

I've run a T-piece off that hole so i'm running both the oil pressure switch as well as the oil pressure sender for the gauge.

As for oil pressure locations on the dizzy side, you may be able to use the VTEC oil pressure switch if its there but apart from that i'm stumped.

Jase

[Mr_will]

Its piss easy to get off once your under the car. remove the filter, 24 mm deep socket and your away.

I've run a T-piece off that hole so i'm running both the oil pressure switch as well as the oil pressure sender for the gauge.

As for oil pressure locations on the dizzy side, you may be able to use the VTEC oil pressure switch if its there but apart from that i'm stumped.

Jase

whered you get the t piece? sadly since i am a feeble b18a'er i have no vtak yo. i dont really care where else i get the send from, i just want to avoid going down there

[JasonGilholme]

Have you ever changed your oil filter?? If you have you'll know what i mean. Theres plenty of space once you've got that chunky filter outta the way.

As for the t-piece, i looked at autobarn and they had them however i ended up gettin mine from a trade shop cause they had the correct adaptor to match the thread on the block (BSPT) and the thread on the sender (NPT)

Your best bet is to get the oil pressure switch out and then take it, as well as the gauge pressure sender, down to a parts place and get them to test fit it all so that way you got the right stuff.

Even though i had the correct stuff i still had a slight oil leak, but that was easily fixed with some thread glue/gasket sealant. :D:D

[Mr_will]

yeah thats kinda the problem, i have only just changed the oil filter recently, and considering oil is a $50 fill, and oil filter $9, i'm in no hurry to do it again for the sake of installing a $25 gauge.

might be more sensible to wait till next filter change

[JasonGilholme]

You can put the same filter back on np's. You might need to drain a bit of oil but i doubt it. If you do you can put it back in providing you don't drop anything dirt and shit into it.

Either that or wait till the next oil change.

[Mr_will]

fair call, i think i will ditch the regular switch in favour of the gauge alone.

can anyone clarify where the switch is? i can see two wires coming out just next to the oil filter, towards the fender side, but i cant tell if they should just pull out, or screw out, or if they are even the right ones.

[JasonGilholme]

The best way to test is to undo the plug and then turn the car to accessories.

If the oil light on the dahs doesn't turn on then you've unpluged the correct sensor.

As stated in my first post, its a 24mm deep sock (on a b16a which should be the same as yours)

[Mr_will]

unfortunately i dont have a 24mm deep socket, better pick one up. i can see two wires coming from a rubber plug, but im not sure if theyre the right ones, if theyre wrong and i pull them out, obviously that isnt ideal

the service manual picture unfortunately isnt too helpful either

[JasonGilholme]

it won't matter if you unplug something else. When you unplug the connector your not actually removing the sensor out of the block which makes life alot easier.

AFAIK the only other thing on the back of the block is the knock sensor (if applicable)

My oil pressure switch had a large rubber housing around the wires, connector and sensor which needs to be pried off before you can actually unplug the connector from the sensor.

[Mr_will]

i have the rubber crap off now, but there are two wires there so im not sure which is the right one.

trial and error should solve it i suppose

[Mr_will]

ok this is what i now see, after removing the rubber housing and two wires, i see green

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/willbuxton/05122006056.jpg

is this green thingo meant to come out with the 24mm socket you were talking about?

[JasonGilholme]

Yeah it should do. mine was green though. (i don't think)

Did you do the dash oil light check i mentioned??

[Mr_will]

have tried with both wires detached, and one attached one not, vice versa, and nomatter what i do i dont seem to get the oil light.

[JasonGilholme]

So does the oil light stay off???

Cause if it stays off thats correct.

When you plug both wires in the oil light should come on (because you don't have pressure yet) until you start the engine (and then it should go off because you've got oil pressure adn everything is cool.)

Where abouts is this sensor as well?? Is it right below the intake manifold?? If so you've got the wrong sensor.

The oil pressure one is lower then the oil filter, and also has a rubber casing around it. (which is a bitch to get off btw lol)

[Mr_will]

this is almost level with the oil filter, slightly lower.

even with both of the wires out, i would get oil light on, then off as the car started

sounds like i have the wrong sensor:p call me mr noob

[JasonGilholme]

Yeh you've got the wrong sensor.

Anything else on the back of the block??

The info i'm giving you is from my B16 which i thought would be the same/similiar considering that your working on a B-series as well.

[DLO01]

I have faith in Jason, he knows his Stuff. Keep it up Mr Will :thumbsup:

[JasonGilholme]

I have faith in Jason, he knows his Stuff. Keep it up Mr Will :thumbsup:

Cheers dean.

[Mr_will]

haha its very true, i'd be stuffed without him by now.

i have found the correct spot to run the oil feed, and have connected everything, only now i am getting some quality oil leaks both at the connection to the gauge, and where the feed runs from the old oil switch.

might try some high temp glue or something

[JasonGilholme]

Yeah i was surprised as well. i had a descent leak at first. i ended up using some gasket sealant that they reccomend to use around the edges of the valve cover. Its blue. i can't remember the name of it atm tho.

Once your all done do an ECU check just to make sure you didn't accidentally leave any sensors unplugged or anything.

[Mr_will]

low quality parts ftw.

the adaptor broke off and is now stuck, with threadlock inside the hole where the stock pressure sensor goes. this is going to be a fun afternoon.

[JasonGilholme]

WTF?!?!? Its stuck in the block????

Where did you get the adaptor from??

If its stuck in the block, make sure nothing falls down into the oil gallaries. Thats the last thing you want....

[Mr_will]

yeah its super dooper stuck, theres nothing sticking out for me to grab onto and twist off or anything.

have just now phoned for a tow, let the mechanic fix it:D

i think the stock switch will be fine from now on:)

[JasonGilholme]

Damn man. What a way to end a hard days work. Grab a beer and park yourself in front of the cricket son! :P

So what exactly was stuck in there? Part of the sender or the other half of the adaptor???

Where did you get your gear from as well??

J

[Dxs]

hahahah, classic
got a pic?

[Mr_will]

nah no pics as of yet.

good old tow truck driver made me reverse it outta my garage ....spewed almost the entire oil fill (brand new, mind you) over my driveway.

when they get the bit out, ill get some pics. in the mean time , im looking forward to the bill :)

cheers for all your help though jason, i wouldnt have come this far otherwise. i got the gear from repco, it was a speco gauge. now it is an in-the-mother****ing-bin-****er-gauge.

[JasonGilholme]

No probs man. i'm glad i helped you fcuk your engine! lol

I'll be redoing mine soon and they're be a through DIY on it cause its such a common thing and noone knows how to do it properly.

[JasonGilholme]

Yeh man, i saw ya DIY and thats what i followed along with some other info off HT.

The DIY that i'll be puttin together will be for a different setup tho. ;)

[JasonGilholme]

wow, thats a good kit you got there poid. i got an autometer gauge and if only came with size adaptors. Didn't come with any T-pieces or anything else at all.

[Mr_will]

very true poid, although it really comes down to my own stupidity, deep down i know brass really is pissweak and no match for sidchrome tools.

the nail in the coffin was that i used a socket extension, which wouldve provided some nice leverage for it to break. however i am lucky that i live relatively close to the mechanics and it was only $55 to tow.

still means that i destroyed:

$25 gauge
$40 oil fill (all over my driveway)
$30 worth of degreaser
$55 tow
$70 (estimate @ 1 hour) of mechanics labour

$220 all up lol

[JasonGilholme]

You didn't destroy your gauge did you??

new oil is always good anyway

$30 worth of degreaser??? I buy it for 2 bucks a can??? how much did you use!!!

$55 tow...can't get outta that one...

Labour is free cause you DIY buddy. :thumbsup:

Not that bad really.