Engineering Question...

[VTi_b0i]

Hey, I am due for Rego + Insurance in afew weeks and i really need to know if my car needs an Engineers Cert.
It is a 1994 Honda Civic Sedan with an Integra GS-R motor (b18c1)
I understand that if the capacity increases by 15% or more it does, but what about emissions as its not a motor from australia?

thanks for your help
Christian

[roar]

how old is the motor too

if its older than the car you may be in some trouble

[VTi_b0i]

the motor is a 95 model...

[destrukshn]

just say it came out of an integra vtir
lol

[VTi_b0i]

lol but wrong engine number? wont they be able to tell? + my mechanic knows its not aus spec haha

[CRXer]

so u havent got a blue slip already for the engine # change?

[VTi_b0i]

lol nahh lmao ima get it all done 2mora... the motors been in 2months haha

[CRXer]

well thats what u need first.

i gotta bluey a few months ago for a JDM 18c,no probs at all,no eng cert.

ask whoever did the swap(if u didnt do yourself),they should know someone to do the bluey for u.if not pm me,i'll tell ya where i got mine(gladesville area).

[VTi_b0i]

ok thanks heaps mate :)
one of my best mates' dad is a mechanic so hes doing the pink and blue slip... he is just paranoid that i need a eng. cert. and i really dont want to have to get one haha

[VTC-8OY]

haha i jus got my rego done last week in time for d cruise... u think my setup is engineered?? haha... If u have trouble gettin it done pm me..

[Bayani]

Won't need one :)

[VTi_b0i]

thanks alot fellas! cause if theres one thing i dont need its more trouble ahaha cause im going on hols next week :p

[fatboyz39]

no need for one, get the pink then get a blue slip saying that you changed motors.

Easy.

[Bayani]

Engineering Cert would cost about 1,200 I believe for an engine conversion to an engine with +15% capactity anyway, for those who are interested.

[VTi_b0i]

so no probs with the emissions?
thanks guys! really apreciated

[Bayani]

I think they'll cover the emissions test when engineering the engine.

I wouldn't think you'd have emission issues anyway.

[VTi_b0i]

lol yeahh but i dont want to have to get an engineering certificate haha its money i dont have and dont want to spend on that lol

[EGB18CT]

im not getting mine engineered too much hastles. a couple wanted full emission testing done on it which was like about 2g plus about 1200 for the cert. u wont have to get emission if you can prove that ur motor is equivalent to aus spec emmisions or us spec, for this u need genuine documents that state this so u mite need to hunt around. otherwise try going to one that had engineered what u have before otherwise they have no idea what to do and will slug u cos the cant be stuffed doing it. in melb the cheapest i found was rowan at cartech, 300 for first inspecton, 300 for final and report, plus extras that need fixing but i didnt want to take the risk yet until im a bit more cashed up.

[VTC-8OY]

$1500 is the MAX for engineers certificate......

[VTi_b0i]

yeahh the mechanic called the RTA and asked them and they said its fine, no need for the Eng. Cert. so its all good... passed Pink & Blue slip :) thanks heaps for all your help!

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[Bayani]

Good work.


Also, 1,500 for an Engineering Certificate isn't Max.

It's all up to what you get engineered.
Each thing you want looked at usually has it's set price.

[VTC-8OY]

well i agree^ .. im jus repeating what the owner at greenacre smash repairs sed..

[Bayani]

All good, for general modifications I wouldn't think it would go far past 1,000. If you've modified a plethora of things, and are looking to ensure that everything is roadworthy, then you're looking at more ;)

[Lex_EG93]

well thats what u need first.

i gotta bluey a few months ago for a JDM 18c,no probs at all,no eng cert.

ask whoever did the swap(if u didnt do yourself),they should know someone to do the bluey for u.if not pm me,i'll tell ya where i got mine(gladesville area).

what about for a b20 block b16 head? do i need a eng cert or ill bee ok with jus a blue slip?

and plus im putting the eng in myself

[VTi_b0i]

LMFAO! talk bout digging up old threads alex!!! this is so old i dont even remember making it! haha i tripped out when it said me as the tread creater haha!!

and yes, yes u do need a eng. cert but mang seriously dw bout it, ive had cops pull me over and they dont even notice the motors different despite him defecting me for my CAI and wheels lol meh

[CRXer]

what about for a b20 block b16 head? do i need a eng cert or ill bee ok with jus a blue slip?

and plus im putting the eng in myself

You'll need an engineers certificate for the more than 15% capacity increase in the engine size

[Lex_EG93]

LoL ! i know aye pretty old thread. . . .

what involves getting a eng cert?

and does this mean wen i get an eng cert i then go for and blue slip?

[Bayani]

The cert states your car complies with specific ADRs.
And yes, then you can go for your Bluey.

Go to the RTA and get the list of Engineering Signatories, or you can give them a call - they will have a list too.

[Lex_EG93]

^^^^ thanks Bayani. . .

one more quick question.
sorry to be a pain but b4 i go for the cert and bluey, will i need a brake upgrade to support the engine yeah?

[Bayani]

Don't consider yourself a pain. it's better to ask now, than regret it later. :)
But yes, a brake upgrade should be done, not as a matter of getting a bluey, but for safety.

But in terms of Complaince, I believe you will need to regardless. ;)

[Moya]

So for a fairly run of the mill EG B18C no eng cert is required? Cool.

[Bayani]

Hold back there.

It all depends on what engine you transplanted OUT of the car. if the old engine is 15% less capactity, you will need a cert.

[destrukshn]

Hold back there.

It all depends on what engine you transplanted OUT of the car. if the old engine is 15% a more less powerful, you will need a cert.
isn't it in engine capacity, not how much power.

[Bayani]

Thanks, yes. Couldn't think of the word. :D
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[Lex_EG93]

so what does a bluey consist of??? and what do i look out for ?

e.g. for a pink make sure you cv boots are clean LoL (example)

[Lex_EG93]

anyone????

[Lukezen27]

so what does a bluey consist of??? and what do i look out for ?

e.g. for a pink make sure you cv boots are clean LoL (example)


Blue slip of Engineering Certificate?

[Bayani]

A Bluey is an inspection SIMILAR to a pink slip.

If you car has not been registered for longer than 3 months, a Blue Slip is required.

The Blue Slip is a more rigid inspection than a Pink Slip.

For a Blue Slip you make sure you car is road worthy. :)
If you don't, the Blue Slipper will tell you what needs to be done to ensure it will be.