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grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 08:24 AM
Last night the Hi-Comp Performance Allmotor Civic ran 12.80 @ 109.44mph on shitty 17" street tyres on its 6th full pass. 60' was a poor 2.2.

We weren't expecting to get into the 12's so easily so are absolutely stoked at the result. The times should tumble next year so keep an eye out. :D

NOTE CHANGES ABOVE

ginganggooly
21-12-2006, 08:29 AM
Nice work, what chassis/motor/tranny??

grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 08:42 AM
Its an EG Civic with a H22A and H22A non LSD box. 4.7 diff ratio. The car weighs 804kg without driver with the heavy 17's on the front. Mods are limited to some headwork and slightly more compression. Runs a bellmouth CAI and last night ran factory H22A headers with a 2.5" exhaust with a single muffler. This exhasut system is only for street meets. Usually it runs open headers. ECU is an EMS.

With the open headers and mods as above it made 135kw at the wheels.

ginganggooly
21-12-2006, 10:07 AM
Restepc :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
21-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Congrats!!!! i knew that it could of done a 12's. Keep it up i wanaa see 11's:thumbsup:

Was nice chattin to you boys, show em k20's eg how its done. Learnt a few thing and potiential of the h22a!

destrukshn
21-12-2006, 10:44 AM
12's.
very impressive.

grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 11:09 AM
Thanks for the support. Much to learn about the car and what works and doesn't work. For instance the 12.8 was done on our last run and was achieved by revving it harder. More rpm next time. :)

EG5
21-12-2006, 12:53 PM
nice work
big mph there

I think i met you guys back in the days @ wsid , remember blue EG with k20a like 2 years ago ?

grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 12:57 PM
Yep. That was us when Angus was racing the STU88Y Civic.

Most of the runs had 110mph. Once the shift points are worked out right I wouldn't be surprised to see 111-112mph as is.

EG5
21-12-2006, 01:28 PM
How do u get low 800 kg from eg hatch ?

fatboyz39
21-12-2006, 01:35 PM
i saw the eg, its gutted hardcore!

grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 02:12 PM
Weight taken out:
- no intrusion bars in doors
- no dash
- no power steering
- no alternator
- fuel tank replaced with 11L aluminium one
- no carpet etc

There is still more weight to be taken out of it. It still runs all factory glass and hatch. The 17" rims it was run with last night are heavy as. Once some lightweight 13" rims and slicks are put on, that should reduce the weight down below 800kg by itself. The times last night were run at 860kg with (very skinny ie light) driver.

This is only the beginning of a long development process. :)

EG5
21-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Are you running h2b set up ?
b series gearbox?

Benson
21-12-2006, 05:02 PM
I fink they jsut changed diff ratio... still a h-series box

grumpy rooster
21-12-2006, 05:13 PM
Standard H22A box with 4.7 diff ratio.

GnJracing
22-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Man I've been waiting forever to hear something about this car. I remember seeing it in a fast fours magazine. Nice time :thumbsup:
Looks like I've got some competition.. Good stuff!

G AE82
22-12-2006, 02:07 AM
Good start. You really need a set of BFG drag radials. 17 inch street tyres are a waste of time. Keep it up.

grumpy rooster
22-12-2006, 07:50 AM
The 17" wheels were just put on there because thats all we had at the time so we could get it down the track before Xmas. They are by no means going to stay there.

We will be using 22x8x13" slicks when the funds are available.

barefootbonzai
22-12-2006, 12:32 PM
fark that's gansta as. weight loss to da max!

destrukshn
22-12-2006, 12:34 PM
weapon this car is.
lol.
i'd be shamed if i lined it up in my old gtr.
lol.
i wouldn't be a happy chap either.
lol.

grumpy rooster
22-12-2006, 12:41 PM
Here's a photo of the car for those that don't know it.

http://www.badgerphotography.com.au/201206/images/201206129.jpg

.::F[L]Y::.
22-12-2006, 03:40 PM
very nice. is this street driven or jus purpose built for drags?

[stealth]
22-12-2006, 06:37 PM
sleeper i like!

grumpy rooster
22-12-2006, 06:51 PM
Drag car only. There is no way it could be street driven.

online
22-12-2006, 07:08 PM
Congrats on getting the car out and running well.. look forward to bigger and better in the new year :thumbsup:

grumpy rooster
22-12-2006, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the support everyone.

Expect to see the car out on a regular basis next year. We will be endeavouring to get it out at every opportunity.

pwr2w8
22-12-2006, 09:51 PM
i can see why your mph is so high, power to weight.

What rev's do you take the car up to, finally online getting some competion, good for the sport, also when i bring my eg civic out next year with B16/B20 aiming around 270hp atw there will be more competion.

HRD2BQT
24-12-2006, 03:30 PM
thats an awesome time. Respect!

grumpy rooster
24-12-2006, 08:01 PM
i can see why your mph is so high, power to weight.

What rev's do you take the car up to, finally online getting some competion, good for the sport, also when i bring my eg civic out next year with B16/B20 aiming around 270hp atw there will be more competion.

Shiftlight was set at 7,500rpm and limiter at 7,800rpm but we now know that needs to be higher. Probably up around 7,800rpm and limiter at 8,000rpm. We'll try that and see what happens.

Will be good to compete against as many cars as possible. But will be a while before anyone is up with the Online boys I think. They are showing us all how its done.

pwr2w8
24-12-2006, 10:41 PM
doesnt online run methanol in the N/A CRX.
I havent seen alot of Online built cars at the track, its allways there own car.

sneak preview of my project

http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=egdragcaryp2.jpg

CUL8R
25-12-2006, 03:19 PM
what comp u runnin? considered ITBS????
i wanna know about the motor! lol

grumpy rooster
25-12-2006, 09:05 PM
Comp is about 11:1. This is only the very beginning for the car. We wanted to start with a very basic package and progress from there. We are very pleased with those initial results.

panda[cRx]
26-12-2006, 11:37 PM
;1015980']sleeper i like!

lmfao

very nice times, looking forward to seeing what comes in the future :thumbsup:

honda_b_blastn
27-12-2006, 11:26 PM
800kg without driver!! very nimble figure..have you got any interior shots?

EGB18CT
28-12-2006, 07:20 AM
very nice times, good luck for the future! and slap on the m/t or bfgs on!

what fuel u running this on? av gas? or normal 98 pump?

grumpy rooster
28-12-2006, 11:23 AM
I don't have any interior shots. Joe, the owner, may have some. I'll try and get some.

Fuel is just everyday 98.

grumpy rooster
03-01-2007, 12:44 PM
Joe bought some Weld Draglites and Mickey Thompson slicks today for the front.

I will be getting some more photos in the next few days.

G AE82
03-01-2007, 10:00 PM
What size slicks are they?

grumpy rooster
03-01-2007, 10:28 PM
22x8x13.

Here's some pics:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/enginepassside.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/carfullpass.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/interiorsidefront.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/frontwheel.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/frontdownside.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/fullenginebayfront.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/grumpy_rooster/Hi-Comp/centreconsole.jpg

HRD2BQT
06-01-2007, 09:56 PM
now dats one bad moda right there!!!!

grumpy rooster
07-01-2007, 03:53 PM
22x8x13.

There you go. ;)

honda_b_blastn
07-01-2007, 08:51 PM
has been set up well...:)
makes me regret selling my H22 package

grumpy rooster
10-01-2007, 07:50 AM
We are heading out to WSID tonight for the first time with the slicks.

Hopefully we'll improve on the 12.8.

HRD2BQT
10-01-2007, 10:51 AM
goodluck for tonight

EG5
10-01-2007, 09:23 PM
Any update from today ? THis EG should run easy 12.5 with slicks.

sydteg21
10-01-2007, 10:07 PM
Had a close look of this EG tonight , impressed man

grumpy rooster
11-01-2007, 07:58 AM
Had a big reply all typed and then we had a power failure here so lost it all. :( Can't be bothered retyping it.

The short version is Joe, the owner, drove the car for the first time.

Run 1 - 2.3 60'. Aborted when the car in the other lane crossed into his lane. Brown undies time. Baptism of fire.

Run 2 - 2.3 60'. 13.1 @ 108mph. Shortshifted a couple of gears.

Run 3. - 2.2 60'. 12.9 @ 109mph. Now we're getting somewhere.

Run 4 - 1.94 60'. 12.58 @ 110.64mph Absolutely stoked.

We packed up then. There were HEAPS of cars and it was a huge meet.

Be back next week with me driving hopefully.

EG5
11-01-2007, 09:28 AM
With those slicks you should be pulling alot faster 60ft.
We ran 22x8x15 on egk20a Version 1 back then , and I pulled consistent 1.7 60ft.

Congrats anyway for running faster times. I believe there is still room for improvement.

grumpy rooster
11-01-2007, 09:33 AM
Definitely not where it ends as is. Still playing around with tyre pressures and launch rpm. We are trying all sorts of things at the moment. Just need to find what works best.

Next week, less tyre pressure and more rpm I think.

grumpy rooster
18-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Went out again with me driving last night. Not good for most of it. I was a bit rusty after not having been down the quarter for 2.5 years. :(

Atleast I finally pulled it all together on the last (6th) run of the night. Did the cars best 60' to date, 1.849 to go on to record a 12.74 @ 108.57mph. The mph was consistently down by 2mph all night. The hot weather? Who knows.

Congrats to Yonas for running a 12.4 in the new EGK20A. There were heaps of Hondas out which was great to see.

Bring on Drag Warz in March. :thumbsup:

EG5
18-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Congrats to Yonas for running a 12.4 in the new EGK20A. There were heaps of Hondas out which was great to see.

Bring on Drag Warz in March. :thumbsup:

Thanks :thumbsup: , will try to break some 11 sec pass soon.

Good to see your car running yesterday.

HRD2BQT
18-01-2007, 02:42 PM
gratz on the times guys :)

online
20-01-2007, 07:26 AM
saw the car out there, looking good :thumbsup:

Glad to see so many Honda's out there on Wednesday..

EG5
20-01-2007, 12:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaxw5ZPXBrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaxw5ZPXBrk)
hi comp EG videos

ONE600
20-01-2007, 07:20 PM
damn ur car looks nice... wish our car looks half as good and damn I thought our car was guttered..? thats jenny craig to the max!

grumpy rooster
21-01-2007, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the vid guys. That proved what I thought. Gets off the line ok but then breaks into wheelspin halfway through first and into second.

Need to do something about that.

online
21-01-2007, 09:36 AM
Thanks for the vid guys. That proved what I thought. Gets off the line ok but then breaks into wheelspin halfway through first and into second.

Need to do something about that.

That will stop once you get some time behind the wheel and dial the chassis up. time and patience hehe

grumpy rooster
21-01-2007, 02:44 PM
Definitely. Its not going to happen over night and we know that. What we are planning on doing is working with what we have and refining that to the point where we can't go any further and then make a few mods.

For the time being its all a steep learning curve. One that we are all very excited about. :)

aznsiko
21-01-2007, 03:03 PM
fark.. pretty imprssing

VTi_b0i
21-01-2007, 04:10 PM
isnt it a little silly not to have a rev guage? would make life alot easier...not like thet weigh much...

online
21-01-2007, 05:11 PM
isnt it a little silly not to have a rev guage? would make life alot easier...not like thet weigh much...

In a 12 0r 13 second car a rev guage may be useful because you have time to see it but in a race car which run 10's or better you really don't have time to look at anything, it is just pointless..

VTi_b0i
21-01-2007, 05:17 PM
yeahh that is true, but it is a 12sec0nd car right now, not 10 lol amd even if u dont allways have time to look at it, it wouldnt hurt to have one anyway

grumpy rooster
21-01-2007, 05:22 PM
isnt it a little silly not to have a rev guage? would make life alot easier...not like thet weigh much...

I was waiting for someone to say that. :)

We are putting a tacho in solely so we can get our launches right. Other than launching a tacho really isn't necessary when you've got a shiftlight.

As Online mentioned in a quick car you really don't have time to look at a tacho. Others running similar times to ours will even tell you that 1st and 2nd gears are gone before you know it.

VTi_b0i
21-01-2007, 05:27 PM
yeahh exactly... i just saw ur car on wednesday and thort how on earth do they know wat to launch at etc haha

hopndrop
25-01-2007, 06:07 PM
good to see the civic finally at the track and putting downs some times. i spent many long hours on that car and wondered when it would get to the strip. good luck to joe and the rest!

grumpy rooster
15-02-2007, 08:04 AM
After a few weeks of rain interrupted nights we went out again last night and it didn't rain. :D

Here's the nights runs:

1. 12.741 @ 110.61mph - 2.140 60'
2. 12.781 @ 110.26mph - 2.094 60'
3. 12.456 @ 110.24mph - 1.850 60'
4. 12.461 @ 110.62mph - 1.887 60'
5. 12.751 @ 110.17mph - 2.103 60'
6. 12.576 @ 111.05mph - 2.088 60'

So we are very happy with the way last night went. New PB's for ET and mph. And much more consistency. The only inconsistent part is the 60'. Its a real fine balance between wheelspin and getting it right.

Hopefully we can maintain this consistency for the Drag Warz next month.

ALLMTR
15-02-2007, 03:37 PM
Its a real fine balance between wheelspin and getting it right.



Damn straight. Well done!!!!!

BlitZ
15-02-2007, 03:56 PM
damn good time,
was the 12.45 pulled with nitrous?

grumpy rooster
16-02-2007, 08:55 AM
There's no nitrous on the car.

TODA AU
16-02-2007, 12:05 PM
12.45sec...
Exellent time...
Well done... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

STOCK
16-02-2007, 12:31 PM
nice times and solid mph!

grumpy rooster
16-02-2007, 01:18 PM
Thanks guys. :)

ALLMTR
19-02-2007, 02:28 PM
Has he thought of running a H2B?

grumpy rooster
19-02-2007, 09:28 PM
No Chuck. He likes the strength of the H22A box so I can't see him changing it. There's a heap of things to be done as we go forward, but that isn't one of them.

Why you ask?

pwr2w8
20-02-2007, 01:40 PM
you running the car on wed again as i might bring out my little civic turbo, while i get my B20 VTEC Eg Civic ready hopefully for may.

grumpy rooster
20-02-2007, 04:17 PM
Yep. Will be there tomorrow night.

I, myself, may not be but the other guys will be with the car.

ALLMTR
20-02-2007, 07:11 PM
They look the goods. If I was doing another Honda, it would be the first thing I'd buy...

pwr2w8
20-02-2007, 08:49 PM
They look the goods. If I was doing another Honda, it would be the first thing I'd buy...

what looks the goods

grumpy rooster
20-02-2007, 08:55 PM
Has he thought of running a H2B?


H2B setup.

grumpy rooster
21-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Went out tonight after making some changes to the car. Still no more mods to the engine.

Ran a 12.40 @ 112.49mph with a bad 1.994 60'.

The changes we made put the mph in the 112's consistantly. It shows we are heading in the right direction.

ALLMTR996
22-02-2007, 01:06 AM
Went out tonight after making some changes to the car. Still no more mods to the engine.

Ran a 12.40 @ 112.49mph with a bad 1.994 60'.

The changes we made put the mph in the 112's consistantly. It shows we are heading in the right direction.
Can I ask how many passes the car has done now ?
ALLMTR996

grumpy rooster
22-02-2007, 08:43 AM
I don't know exactly. About 25 I think.

Why? Are you hinting that there should be more gains for the number of passes?

ALLMTR996
22-02-2007, 09:24 AM
I don't know exactly. About 25 I think.

Why? Are you hinting that there should be more gains for the number of passes?
Not at all just looking at how long it is taking people to get there cars to run CONSISTANT ET's in an ALLMTR car, as with Australian racing being DYO it is far more important,and it is very good to see Joe out there having a go all the time not like most of the internet racers on here,:thumbsup: to the Hi Comp team.
ALLMTR996

grumpy rooster
22-02-2007, 10:40 AM
Ok. Sorry if I was a bit presumptuous. :zip:

I must say, the number of people that ask what's wrong with the car when you don't run the same time EVERY RUN is ridiculous. You do 1 pass that is shit, clearly because of lots of wheelspin off the line, still run the same mph but the ET is slower and the world seems to end.

As you mentioned being consistant is the hardest part. And the faster you go, the harder it is.

ALLMTR996
23-02-2007, 09:59 AM
i can see why your mph is so high, power to weight.

What rev's do you take the car up to, finally online getting some competion, good for the sport, also when i bring my eg civic out next year with B16/B20 aiming around 270hp atw there will be more competion.

Where are the updated pic's of your car must be nearly ready now.What does that mean about Online running methanol ?,and there are quite a few of there customer cars running out there but most are not internet nerds that sit on here and bullshit about there cars and times they should be running and making big HP numbers.Just because Online has run 10.83 dont think they are stopping there I have seen the new cylinder head for there next setup and it has alot more work in it than the one on the car now,and from what I have heard they are about to get back on the development path once the new axles get made.
ALLMTR996

pwr2w8
23-02-2007, 03:42 PM
Where are the updated pic's of your car must be nearly ready now.What does that mean about Online running methanol ?,and there are quite a few of there customer cars running out there but most are not internet nerds that sit on here and bullshit about there cars and times they should be running and making big HP numbers.Just because Online has run 10.83 dont think they are stopping there I have seen the new cylinder head for there next setup and it has alot more work in it than the one on the car now,and from what I have heard they are about to get back on the development path once the new axles get made.
ALLMTR996

Online from what i have seen only has 2 quick current cars from there stable, there own N/A car which is full tube race car and custom bodyworks civic, other than that i really havent seen any other quick cars they have built.
No disrespect to Online, for example Pac has heaps of fast cars, croydan has heaps of fast cars ect ect, online only has there own car.

ALLMTR996
23-02-2007, 10:29 PM
Online from what i have seen only has 2 quick current cars from there stable, there own N/A car which is full tube race car and custom bodyworks civic, other than that i really havent seen any other quick cars they have built.
No disrespect to Online, for example Pac has heaps of fast cars, croydan has heaps of fast cars ect ect, online only has there own car.
It is not the thread to talk about how many cars they have out there running you should start another one to talk about that.And there N/A car IS NOT A TUBE CHASSIS it still runs the std firewall and floorpan and chassis rails.
ALLMTR996

honda_b_blastn
25-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Its good to see a postive vibe being put out by this team and there car. Not many people are willing to share there journey through different changes or ideas on there motor/chassis. Mad props fella's

grumpy rooster
26-02-2007, 10:20 AM
Thanks.

ILZ
03-03-2007, 09:25 PM
Online from what i have seen only has 2 quick current cars from there stable, there own N/A car which is full tube race car and custom bodyworks civic, other than that i really havent seen any other quick cars they have built.
No disrespect to Online, for example Pac has heaps of fast cars, croydan has heaps of fast cars ect ect, online only has there own car.

dude although my car isnt an online built car, they still played a big part in helping my car run 10.82@134mph(soon to be quicker)
being a mechanic, im not TO PROUD to ask someone something when i dont know! you cant know everything about everything! jim and deni are the only guys who know there shit when it comes to making few hondas run fast down the 1/4.

DynoDave
05-03-2007, 02:14 PM
Good one Joe and the whole Hi Comp team its good to see another Honda out there having a go and developing there own deal and not just buying a heap of parts.
Regards Dyno Dave

pwr2w8
05-03-2007, 05:35 PM
im not putting shit on online, all im saying is that i havent seen alot of cars come out from their stable.
My question is do they only build quick cars for themselves or cars that they have built are locked up.

grumpy rooster
12-03-2007, 07:48 PM
The boys went out to Drag Warz on Saturday for the first time with the open headers. Having never run the car without the full exhaust they were not sure whether there would be any difference. The open headers proved to make quite a difference with the guys running 12.7, 12.2, 12.2, 12.3, 12.4 and 12.2. The mph was also up with a number of passes in the 113mph range with the highest mph being 115.58mph. No other changes had been made apart from the full exhaust being changed for the open pipe.

The best for the day was 12.25 @ 113.44mph with a pb 60ft of 1.838.

EG5
12-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Nice one .
Slap on a traction bar :)

grumpy rooster
12-03-2007, 08:07 PM
At the moment Luke is only leaving the line at a very soft 3,500rpm and tyre pressures are still quite high around 15psi. So next time out I believe they are going to go for less tyre pressure and more rpm to try and bring the 60ft times down.

The upside of the current approach is the stress on the car is very little.

HRD2BQT
16-03-2007, 03:09 PM
awesome time :) congrats

online
16-03-2007, 03:50 PM
At the moment Luke is only leaving the line at a very soft 3,500rpm and tyre pressures are still quite high around 15psi. So next time out I believe they are going to go for less tyre pressure and more rpm to try and bring the 60ft times down.

The upside of the current approach is the stress on the car is very little.

Saw the car only for one of the passes, looked good. do you have axles in the car yet? I spoke to Joe on the day but forgot to ask him.

grumpy rooster
16-03-2007, 09:40 PM
The left outer shaft is a billet shaft with the others being standard shafts. Joe has just wanted to get all the basics sorted out before he really starts to stress the car.

They are going out on Wednesday night so we'll see how they go.

Hipowerracing
26-03-2007, 12:17 PM
ooi grumpy rooster...

the boys from hipower are suprised at your 12.25 run you did, well done! congrats and best regards from team at hipower racing...

yanks we are COming..!!! really good for australia honda scene for the kind of budget we have for drag racing hondas here.

grumpy rooster
05-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Its amazing what data logging can tell you. Last time they raced the car when Joe was driving he missed a gear on 1 run. The engine saw 9000rpm. :eek:

mr_k26a_stroker
05-04-2007, 06:00 PM
congrats guys on the great time. i saw u run about 2 months ago n i was impressed. gotta love the sticker on the rear window. ha ha ha

grumpy rooster
11-04-2007, 11:15 AM
Well its time to take the car to the next level. A few mods are planned but the $$$$ just aren't there so we are looking for sponsors to come on board with us for the rest of the year.

Send me a PM if anyone is interested or knows of anyone that may be interested. Parts or cash deals will both be gladly accepted.

Thanks. :)

pwr2w8
11-04-2007, 02:01 PM
whats mods you looking at

grumpy rooster
11-04-2007, 02:54 PM
I'd rather not say at the moment. But we will have more power and more traction. :)

Paul1985
11-04-2007, 03:05 PM
congrats guys.

im wondering what the self-destruct switch actually does hahah

BlitZ
11-04-2007, 05:27 PM
Gotta give it to high comp...

Thanks to grumpy roosters advice
hi comp also tuned my car and i am very happy with there work...

Highly recommended...

grumpy rooster
11-04-2007, 05:55 PM
Thanks Blitz.

Joe is very thorough with what he does hence I have no hesitation recommending his work. And the progress of the race car speaks for itself.

TAKEN
11-04-2007, 09:57 PM
I'd rather not say at the moment. But we will have more power and more traction. :)

not even a clue.. new engine package, wheelie bars??

grumpy rooster
12-04-2007, 08:02 AM
Lets just say the internals of the engine will remain the same and nothing extra will be added to the outside of the car. ;)

TAKEN
12-04-2007, 10:22 AM
so are you looking for better 60 foot times with suspension/chassis mods?

gotta give us a clue hehe

grumpy rooster
12-04-2007, 10:51 AM
Calm little grasshopper. :D

Got to get the $$$ together first before anything happens. Once we have the parts I will spill the beans. But that may not be for a while yet.

TAKEN
21-04-2007, 07:36 AM
How did the car go on wednesday night?

grumpy rooster
23-04-2007, 08:04 AM
12.4. That seems to be the time with the full exhaust system. It consistently runs 12.4-12.5. Will be going to the open exhaust for Compak Attack and try to better the previous 12.2.

DynoDave
23-04-2007, 08:34 AM
12.4. That seems to be the time with the full exhaust system. It consistently runs 12.4-12.5. Will be going to the open exhaust for Compak Attack and try to better the previous 12.2.
Hey Darren who was driving last week Joe or the young guy? and who is driving at the Compak Attack.
Regards Dyno Dave

grumpy rooster
23-04-2007, 08:50 AM
Dave.

Luke was driving last week. And he will be driving at Compak Attak. Gotta keep the weight down. :D

TAKEN
25-04-2007, 05:29 PM
are we going to see a 11sec pass at compack attak you think.. I think the Online car and the G&J Racing Civic from QLD should be out there so you may need to try and step it up a bit.. What are your thoughts?

pwr2w8
25-04-2007, 09:22 PM
he will step it up, i have no doubt as joe is a guru

grumpy rooster
26-04-2007, 08:31 AM
Don't expect much more out of the car at the moment. There won't have been any changes made before Compak Attak so low 12's will be where it will be again.

Maybe at Jambo we will see an 11. ;)

DynoDave
26-04-2007, 09:01 AM
Don't expect much more out of the car at the moment. There won't have been any changes made before Compak Attak so low 12's will be where it will be again.

Maybe at Jambo we will see an 11. ;)
I did offer Joe a cyl head off a car that has run 10.83 complete :p cheap with cams ready to go.
Regards Dyno Dave

grumpy rooster
26-04-2007, 09:29 AM
But Dave. That is not the Joe way. Everything gets done his way to his specification. Where's the fun in using someone elses bits. :p

Ok, just got word there MAY be a change for Compak Attak. Depends if he get the parts in time and fitted. :D

DynoDave
26-04-2007, 09:33 AM
But Dave. That is not the Joe way. Everything gets done his way to his specification. Where's the fun in using someone elses bits. :p

Ok, just got word there MAY be a change for Compak Attak. Depends if he get the parts in time and fitted. :D
Yeah I did give him a hard time out at WSID last time I seen him out there all in good fun :angel:
Regards Dyno Dave

pwr2w8
29-04-2007, 07:22 PM
good luck HI-COMP, it wont be long b4 you get into the 11's and im hoping by jamboree to have my B20/VTEC tube frame EG civic competing with the big boys on a backyard budget

TAKEN
30-04-2007, 08:04 AM
good luck HI-COMP, it wont be long b4 you get into the 11's and im hoping by jamboree to have my B20/VTEC tube frame EG civic competing with the big boys on a backyard budget


When do we get to see some pics of this Civic?

ILZ
30-04-2007, 08:45 PM
When do we get to see some pics of this Civic?

yeh!!! im keen on seing a pic of this beast! tube frame ? must be serious!
look out online!!!!!!!!!!!:p

pwr2w8
01-05-2007, 12:06 AM
who can post 4 me

TAKEN
01-05-2007, 07:52 AM
photobucket or ask one of the moderators about what you can do..

grumpy rooster
01-05-2007, 02:13 PM
Joe got a nice present in the mail today.

Hopefully it will be fitted by next Wednesday for the street meet so it can be tested before Compak Attak.

pwr2w8
02-05-2007, 10:30 PM
When do we get to see some pics of this Civic?

Here is a pic, car is at the moment in a panel workshop getting painted.
Thats all im giving away until its first race apperance

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drag035editedws3.jpg

TAKEN
03-05-2007, 07:53 AM
Here is a pic, car is at the moment in a panel workshop getting painted.
Thats all im giving away until its first race apperance

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drag035editedws3.jpg


Thats a American pic!!, Did you bring the car over from there? Looks good though, can't wait to see another Pro style Honda out there racing.. It's no Tube chassis though!

fishman
03-05-2007, 08:05 AM
Here is a pic, car is at the moment in a panel workshop getting painted.
Thats all im giving away until its first race apperance

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drag035editedws3.jpg

omg is that even your car? you're a straight up loser if that pic is really just one from a US forum. FFS get a life.

pwr2w8
03-05-2007, 11:52 AM
guys i bought the car from the US, my engine is getting built in the US from JG and tube work was done in oz.

grumpy rooster
16-05-2007, 09:38 PM
The boys took the car out to test the new LSD tonight and reeled off a 12.09 @ 112.45mph. 60ft was 1.741. They also did a 12.2. These times were done with full exhaust system that includes a baffled muffler and the standard Oz headers. Joe is absolutely stoked. :D

Bring on Saturday and hopefully 11's. :wave:

G AE82
16-05-2007, 10:40 PM
New LSD definately helped the 60ft. That thing is starting to launch. 11's should definately be on the table for Saturday.

grumpy rooster
16-05-2007, 10:47 PM
I should add that the previous best time in this trim was 12.4. So the LSD has made a big difference. :)

pwr2w8
17-05-2007, 12:06 AM
well done and best of luck to joe.
This car has done wonders on a lower budget, just shows how much of a guru joe is, what engine management does it run

grumpy rooster
17-05-2007, 12:51 AM
well done and best of luck to joe.
This car has done wonders on a lower budget, just shows how much of a guru joe is, what engine management does it run


Thanks mate. Yes it is a low budget affair. You would be surprised how little it has cost. But of course his labour is free so the only cost is parts (like any workshop car).

The ECU is an EMS Stinger. A basic computer that does what it needs to do. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles but they aren't needed at the moment. The car also has a separate EMS datalogger.

grumpy rooster
30-07-2007, 10:48 PM
Time for a bit of an update. For those that don't know we ran an 11.92 at the Compak Attak meet in May so we did break into the 11's.

We will be racing at the Jamboree later in August so hopefully we can lay down some more 11sec passes on the sticky Willowbank track.

Also, check out the car on p104 of the latest edition of Zoom magazine. Its the edition with the blue FINANC Silvia on the cover. :D

grumpy rooster
20-09-2007, 09:08 AM
Another update. At the washed out Jamboree event we were one of the lucky ones and managed to get in 1 pass. On that pass Luke managed to reel off an 11.94 @ 112mph so were very happy with that.

Joe took the car out last night to WSID for the street meet and managed a new pb 60ft of 1.65. Not bad for standard suspension. :p

JasonGilholme
20-09-2007, 09:16 AM
You guys are crazy!

Such good times on a car that has lots of OEM parts still. Really proves that power to weight is the key!

Good stuff! :thumbsup:

YaMiKaZe
27-09-2007, 11:50 AM
saw this car at wsid last nyt..wicked car mate

grumpy rooster
18-10-2007, 04:52 PM
Another big milestone was reached last night at the ozHonda drag night at WSID. The guys ran 11.96 @ 113mph and then backed that up next run with an 11.93 @ 113mph. The significance of those runs is that they were the first 11's run with the stock exhaust manifold. Thats right, stock AUDM exhaust manifold.

How many cars in Oz have done that? :)

The boys are very happy as you would expect.

SHW.70Y
19-10-2007, 08:46 PM
and thats one of the reasons my car is currently there getting worked on .
congrats to all the team thats an awesome achievment

grumpy rooster
29-11-2007, 11:08 AM
A small update.

Joe raced the car again last night and managed to set a new pb 60ft time of 1.677. Still runs the standard springs and shocks all round. :)

After Xmas these will be going on the car
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody.imgs/h22.jpg

Bowzer
29-11-2007, 01:42 PM
good stuff darren, are you running traction cars at the front?

grumpy rooster
29-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Nope. As I said, its all standard suspension. Nothing fancy. There are some spring "stoppers" on the rear to stop the rear from squating but thats it. You don't need traction bars with solid engine mounts. :)

SHW.70Y
29-11-2007, 09:15 PM
so thats how they look like, last time i was there joe was telling me about em , haha he sounded really excited!!!

grumpy rooster
29-11-2007, 09:45 PM
He is very keen to get them on the car but there will be a couple of other changes made to complement them. There will be a rather complex and radical airbox setup for one. It may not work, but only one way to find out. And there will be a totally new header/exhaust setup.

At the moment they have 2 totally different setups. One with the standard headers and 2.5" exhaust and the other the custom open headers. He will be making a new set of headers that will allow them to be used with a muffler. He wants to just run with one system for everything so that they don't have to change for different events.

He has done what he wanted, to run an 11 with factory headers. Now its time to take the next step. We'll see what happens. :)

honda_b_blastn
30-11-2007, 05:40 PM
good to see guys.im hoping to get mine down to melb for the first comptack event next year with the new setup.fingers crossed

barefootbonzai
01-12-2007, 05:07 PM
11.93 @ 113mph.

How many cars in Oz have done that? :)



Right here man! B16 NA Full Interior EG! LMAO

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79872

16CTEG
06-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Weight taken out:
- no intrusion bars in doors
- no dash
- no power steering
- no alternator
- fuel tank replaced with 11L aluminium one
- no carpet etc

There is still more weight to be taken out of it. It still runs all factory glass and hatch. The 17" rims it was run with last night are heavy as. Once some lightweight 13" rims and slicks are put on, that should reduce the weight down below 800kg by itself. The times last night were run at 860kg with (very skinny ie light) driver.

This is only the beginning of a long development process. :)

LOL very skinny driver, but maybe a bulkier driver with more power n slam it into gear faster lol

jdmTYPE R
22-12-2007, 10:36 AM
Right here man! B16 NA Full Interior EG! LMAO

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79872

thats some serious car your talking about there barefootbonzai,:zip: i have faith in it

ginganggooly
22-12-2007, 07:45 PM
Right here man! B16 NA Full Interior EG! LMAO

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79872

priceless. :D

Limbo
27-12-2007, 05:31 PM
funny Ba$tard ;)

nd55
28-12-2007, 07:01 PM
> As I said, its all standard suspension. Nothing fancy. There are some spring "stoppers" on the rear

U got photos of "stoppers".

I'm curious.

Nick.

grumpy rooster
28-12-2007, 07:54 PM
No I don't. They are a part designed for an XF Falcon. :D

oscar_17
07-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Awsome! thats a top result for a little thing

grumpy rooster
29-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Throttle bodies are on and car tuned. Well, as tuned as it can be with current setup. The standard headers are now choking the hell out of the engine so its time to make up a muffled system with new headers for street meets and Super Street duties.

They might be out tomorrow night racing. Not sure at this stage.

SHW.70Y
29-01-2008, 08:32 PM
lol cant wait to see the setup when i drop my car off on monday morning !!
good luck to all involved!

grumpy rooster
05-05-2008, 10:22 PM
Time for an update. The guys have been running the car at street meets as usual with the same times being recorded as pre quads. This was due to the standard headers choking the engine as I mentioned above. Well how do we know. Well the car got put back on the dyno tonight with the open headers and retuned. The result......and increase of 12kw at the wheels at peak power with a maximum increase of 15kw at 6,500rpm. So peak power is now 145kw at the wheels @ 8,300rpm.

We are hoping for a pb at Compak Attak. Thats assuming that it doesn't fry the tyres or the engine goes by by.

SHW.70Y
06-05-2008, 02:23 AM
love it , good work look forward to getting beaten by joe at compack attack lolll

Hipowerracing
07-05-2008, 12:05 AM
grumpy best luck with the run!!

delsol9000rpms
10-05-2008, 05:58 PM
thats awesome.... i love this civicc little machine... any reason why yous havnt got headers for it yet??

grumpy rooster
10-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Its all a set process Joe wants to go through to keep track of what does and doesn't work and by how much each change benefits the engine. Its all part of a development process that will see packages being developed for the H22A with gains we know are thee rather than theoretical.

The other factor is time. But after Compak Attak it will happen.

And thanks for the encouragement guys. It means a lot. :)

delsol9000rpms
11-05-2008, 02:37 PM
ok mate fair enough it makes alot of sense.... keen to see this thing out again..

grumpy rooster
18-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Well all that extra power proved worth it today, along with the lowest weigt the car has ever been, 767kg. :p

Today Luke ran a PB of 11.71 @ 115.76mph with a 1.76 60ft which is by no means anywhere near the best it has done. It has gone into the 1.6's so there is definitely more left in the car.

All the boys are absolutely stoked.

ALLMTR
18-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Well done. Good to hear about the good times!

SHW.70Y
19-05-2008, 01:09 PM
Well all that extra power proved worth it today, along with the lowest weigt the car has ever been, 767kg. :p

Today Luke ran a PB of 11.71 @ 115.76mph with a 1.76 60ft which is by no means anywhere near the best it has done. It has gone into the 1.6's so there is definitely more left in the car.

All the boys are absolutely stoked.

** so envious **
well done guys it was well deserved , make sure luke keeps driving it deeper into the 11s :D

90LAN
19-05-2008, 06:39 PM
awesome work guys