Ek Civic Immobiliser DRAMAS!!!

[dupac->]

Once upon a time............ about a week ago.. my GF lost her keys to her 96' ek1, lost both black keys. we were only left with the RED key which does absolutely nothing but open your doors and used as a template to recut keys.
Called up Peter Warren Honda and i clearly said we only have the red key, he said bring it in they can fix it ra ra ra for $175!!
well next morning i towed it in there, and they told me red key is useless without the black key, apparently the guy on the phone i was talking to was new and just moved from KIA and told me the wrong info!! my GF's car was on the tow truck, and they said ignition needs to be changed with ONE new key for a lovely price of $650 so meaning my door keys would be different to my ignition keys and i didnt want to do that... so got the car towed home, coz Peter Warren Honda are a bunch of useless idiots.
so i went through the vietnamese paper at home "chieu duong" haha my dads papers and looked for locksmiths found.. "PERFECT LOCKSMITHS".. came over next day didn't need to change ingition just needed to change the immobiliser unit and recut and reprogram 2 new keys (non-honda) to the new immob for $380 which i didn't care anymore at the time, i just didnt want honda to touch the car, well if you're fussy with your keys, im pretty sure u can take them keys to get duplicated with honda keys.
So the point of the story is, if you lose both black keys and only have the red key, there's no need to go to honda to get it fixed. PERFECT LOCKSMITHS (02)9728 4222 or 0419 436 389 he's located in cabramatta somwhere. well you might be able to get it done cheaper somewhere else but i cbf shopping around!
well im happy in the end ONE key for all doors,boot and ignition price wasn't too bad....
If you only have one black key get them cut+program NOW for like $90 or so don't wait til you lose your keys and get stuffed around by honda!
well that's my story............ we lived happily ever after..... :D
anyone else been stuffed around by honda?

[phantom_civic]

Great info bro.
Always had a feeling Honda try to rawt us.

[destrukshn]

okay now.. if you wanted to do it genuine.
imboliser unit, a new red key, a new black key is about $280 or so.
now, programming is $50. getting the ignition is and door barrels retumbeld is about about $70 to suit the new keys.
so it's about $400.
so it's about the same.

[kn1ghtm4r3]

yeah there was a guy in cabra that cuts keys for 70bux =)
it was something like that. lol

[dupac->]

okay now.. if you wanted to do it genuine.
imboliser unit, a new red key, a new black key is about $280 or so.
now, programming is $50. getting the ignition is and door barrels retumbeld is about about $70 to suit the new keys.
so it's about $400.
so it's about the same.

The guys at honda don't "retumble".. but if they did seems to make more sense..
they just say change ignition barrel....
they pretty much say use two keys one for door/boot and one for ignition.
they're no help $650 straight up no other way around it :thumbdwn: .. i believed them for abit.. then realised there MUST be another way.. but yeah.. idiots..

[dupac->]

yeah there was a guy in cabra that cuts keys for 70bux =)
it was something like that. lol


haha alot of locksmiths can cut keys and program but you need the black key atleast.. but if you only have red key, they use that as template to cut the shape of ur key, then program it to your immobiliser..
only a hand full of places do what they did to my gf's car....
headaches!! ahha

[ECU-MAN]

the honda dealer advised you incorectly

as mentioned above you can purchase the immo unit, red key and two black keys for the 300 dollar mark, the new red and black keys are blanks and cut to your key code, then programed to your pgmfi ecu. absolutly no need for different keys,

[dupac->]

the honda dealer advised you incorectly

as mentioned above you can purchase the immo unit, red key and two black keys for the 300 dollar mark, the new red and black keys are blanks and cut to your key code, then programed to your pgmfi ecu. absolutly no need for different keys,

that's why i didn't go ahead with them.. was gonna do it.. then the towie said dont bother.. so towed it back home.. haha

[destrukshn]

the honda dealer advised you incorectly

as mentioned above you can purchase the immo unit, red key and two black keys for the 300 dollar mark, the new red and black keys are blanks and cut to your key code, then programed to your pgmfi ecu. absolutly no need for different keys,
actually they do come as pre cut now ecu-man.
i think.
lol.

[loki78]

Slightly different situation guys. What if I have lost my red key and all I have is the black key. What is the most cost effective way to get myself another key? I was told I can't reprogram a new key without having the red key.

[destrukshn]

Slightly different situation guys. What if I have lost my red key and all I have is the black key. What is the most cost effective way to get myself another key? I was told I can't reprogram a new key without having the red key.


okay now.. if you wanted to do it genuine.
imboliser unit, a new red key, a new black key is about $280 or so.
now, programming is $50. getting the ignition is and door barrels retumbeld is about about $70 to suit the new keys.
so it's about $400.
so it's about the same.

the answer was only a coupe of posts above.

[dupac->]

Slightly different situation guys. What if I have lost my red key and all I have is the black key. What is the most cost effective way to get myself another key? I was told I can't reprogram a new key without having the red key.

If you got the black key still you should still be ok, as it has the chip thing in it and they can copy it either at honda and at them locksmith mentioned, red key is only the template for the shape of ur key, the red key is really useless anway. well thats my understanding..... from this experience

that perfect locksmiths can copy black key for like $85 or so...

[loki78]

If you got the black key still you should still be ok, as it has the chip thing in it and they can copy it either at honda and at them locksmith mentioned, red key is only the template for the shape of ur key, the red key is really useless anway. well thats my understanding..... from this experience

that perfect locksmiths can copy black key for like $85 or so...

If that's true then it's great, cause I thought it was the other way round. I was told you need the red key to be able to copy the chip.

[Edgeauto]

actually they do come as pre cut now ecu-man.
i think.
lol.

I replaced a red key sytem not long ago and it came with blank keys.

The problem when getting keys copied at locksmithes is that the 1 you lost will still start the car where if a dealer does it the lost key is written out the ECU so it can open the doors but not start the car.

Also you need 1 red key and 1 black to get a key done at a dealer but at a locksmith cause they only copy the key you only need the black key.

[mrwillz]

yeah there was a guy in cabra that cuts keys for 70bux =)
it was something like that. lol

yea thats wot i did
at mr minit keys/shoes repair in any shoppo
i only haf blk key and yea got a copy/re proggy for 74bux done in 10mins and works perfect
and this has been covered b4

[Killa From Manila]

when i got my car it came with a little steel badge with a pin number stamped on it. i was told if u lose ur black keys u bring that code in to honda and they can reprogram some new keys with that code if u stil have the red key as a template.

[ECU-MAN]

when i got my car it came with a little steel badge with a pin number stamped on it. i was told if u lose ur black keys u bring that code in to honda and they can reprogram some new keys with that code if u stil have the red key as a template.


cut a new key = yes

reprogram a new keys = no

[civic-dream]

yea thats wot i did
at mr minit keys/shoes repair in any shoppo
i only haf blk key and yea got a copy/re proggy for 74bux done in 10mins and works perfect
and this has been covered b4

just wanna say how glad I am to stumble across this thread coz i was getting prepared to pay the $650 to replace the whole immobliser keys etc from honda...

I've only got the black key and i'll be taking it down to my nearest locksmith and save almost $550...

thanks for the info guys!!!
:wave:

[dupac->]

yea thats wot i did
at mr minit keys/shoes repair in any shoppo
i only haf blk key and yea got a copy/re proggy for 74bux done in 10mins and works perfect
and this has been covered b4

it's been covered before they kinda went off topic, this is kinda for ppl who lose their black keys and only have red, ppl at honda steer ppl in the wrong direction for ways to get that problem fixed, if that makes any sense.
but yeh..

[mrwillz]

well jus safe keep the blk key or ur fockeddd
good investment pppl