D2 Coils in Accord CD5....

[Xplodin]

Hey guys.

I'm getting my coils in the next coming weeks as i want them badly! Soo bad i cant wait. Anyways, what i wanted to know is that does these d2 coils come with the top camber plates? I'm not 100% sure if thats what they are called but thats what i'll call them. If i get these does this mean that i can adjust my camber back to zero? Cos yeah i'd like my camber to look tuff but i'm down for practacality and dont want to go through a set of tyres every few months. If there are any guys with D2's on their accords please post pics up.... and tell me how they feel.

Thanks

John

PS: if ur gonna persuade me to go for teins Forget it cos i'm made my mind so dont bother posting if thats wat ur gonna do :p

[SiReal]

Aya... correct me if i'm wrong guys, but these top camber plates are usually called "pillow ball mounts". basically, see the one on the right, it can move, so u can shift the shock outwards.

http://www.tein.com/img/pupper1.jpg

Pic - taken from tein.

[NeRV]

CLICK (http://www.d2racingsports.com.au/suspension.htm)


Correct me if im wrong but most Honda's run on double wishbone suspensions which dont allow for pillowball top mount, the only honda's that gets the pillowball top mount according to that D2 list, is the DC5 and Honda City, which im sure the DC5's are made with macpherson struts. So no, theres no pillowball top mount for the CD Accords

[MRH-22A]

I'm pretty sure the D2s come with pillow ball mounts. But even with the pillow ball mounts, you wont be able to change the camber because of the double wishbone suspension that we've got.
To adjust the camber, u've gota get a camber kit.

oh yeh... teins are betta :p

[SiReal]

i told you la johnno. but these guys just confirmed it ;)

[CTR Coupe]

The coils come with pillow ball mounts BUT THEY ARE NOT CAMBER AJUSTABLE.
They just give a firmer road feel and wear out quicker than the standard rubber mounts

[Xplodin]

So what your saying to me is that i cant adjust my camber using my pillow top mounts? I thought thats what these things were designed for... Blardy mofo of honda...

So I was speaking to Poid, rear camber kit is pretty much Washer and Bolts. and cost prolly about 30-50 bucks... Where as the front cambers kits cost round 300 bucks...

[Eclipsor]

There aren't as many options for camber adjustment for accords as civics etc.

You can use the washers and bolts for the rear. If you go by whitelines specs you should only adjust up to +1 deg with these though.

I just recently got a set of Ingalls front camber kits from the usa. There are two types. The anchor bolt type or the upper ball joint. They both have pros and cons. I went for the anchor one in the end simply because it had the widest range of adjustment. +1.25 to +3 deg. These cost me about $240aud shipped. The ball joint ones cost a little more but shipping is less so they end up about the same price.

You can also get full replacement, adjustable, upper control arms for the rear that let you give more adjustment than the washers. These cost a fair bit though. About the same as the front kits I think.

[MRH-22A]

wat are the pros and cons of the anchor bolt type and the upper ball joint type?

[Eclipsor]

In reference to the Ingalls kits the benefits of each, as I see it, are:

Ball Joint:
- Easier to adjust (Only one adjustment point on each side as opposed to two)
- Apparently has better clearance with the wheel well because it dosn't push the whole uca out.
- Replaces upper ball joint which may be getting old anyway.

Con:
- Also adjusts caster slightly (apparently?? Probably not enough to really worry about anyway)

Anchor Bolt:
- Biggest range of adjustment. +1.25 to +3 (as opposed to +1.5 to +3)
- Cheaper (dosn't really make a difference for us because of shipping)

They are both fairly straight forward to install. There are other brands that make the kits. SPC is another good brand. Lots of cheapo ebay ripoff's too but I wouldn't risk it with them.

No matter what brand you get though they seem to all use a similar design.

Except for this one. http://www.truckn-store.com/product.asp?returnURL=application_list.asp&ID=98031

This one seems to be the only replacement upper control arm available for the accords. However, when I enquired they wanted to charge more for shipping than for the item itself. Plus apparently the only one that anyone has used on a cb accord broke.

[Xplodin]

OK fair enuf guys... I'll have to wait a little untill i get some more money so i can get the camber kit... but thanks for your help... Gettin the coils paid for today hopefuly next week

[Xplodin]

Well paid for my coils, and getting them next week on friday hopefuly.

[SiReal]

hurry up la.... i cant wait to see you drive faster!!!!

[Xplodin]

ok so no camber plate for my car, and she'll need a camber kit. The guy i'm getting them off he said that i'll need a whole new control arm for the front skunk2 i think he said for about 400 bucks.... i dunno

[Eclipsor]

Pretty sure skunk2 don't make one for accords. Even if they do. You can get a good quality kit for alot less than $400. See my previous post.

[Xplodin]

Eclipsor, Where did u get ur ingalls Camber kit from... I dont wanna trust ebay cos i've gotten stuff off there and they are bs.... Orignals is best

[Eclipsor]

I got them off these guys:

http://www.camberkit.com/home.php?cat=301

They also sell on ebay as iapdirect or something but they have good communication and a gazillion good trader ratings. Also, their prices on ebay are cheaper than those listed on their site.

[SiReal]

i bought my camber kit off iapdirect.com

SPC rear control arms. PEter Ward is his name.

[Xplodin]

OK so a week has now passed and i havent seen my coils yet. It feels like i'm havin a baby (not that i know wat it feels like) but Comon Ule' I want em in right now... Fingers crossed they are in today and installed tonite :D Will post up when i get em in.... Oh man i cant wait!

[dc2dc2dc2]

kingspringsftw

[SiReal]

once u get suspension, wow. its the best feeling ever. the car can turn corners like its never before.

next mod, rear sway bar. should be EVEN better.

[Xplodin]

Ok so now its been 2 weeks since i've ordered the bluddy things... Not holding my breath any more... One more week if its not here then i'm canceling and gettin better ones.

[SiReal]

can u get a full refund?

[philBo]

Ok so now its been 2 weeks since i've ordered the bluddy things... Not holding my breath any more... One more week if its not here then i'm canceling and gettin better ones.


who did you order it from?

[Xplodin]

New Civic, But he doesnt Have anything to do with the delay. its D2 themself

[SiReal]

binhs a good guy so yeah. D2 hmm..thats pretty hopeless. maybe u should save up for soemthing else. how about ksports from trav? $1750 delivered. hehe

[Newcivic]

Johnno ordered from myself, D2 have just changed ownership. So that's what they blame the delay on, next week Johnno will have them in his car :)

[vyets]

d2 and ksport are the same

[Xplodin]

^^^ Yeah thats what i heard as well... Same with G4's...

[SiReal]

well if they all got 36 damper way adjustable, its kinda like a freaky coincidence dont u think?

update johnno!!! put em on yet? before u leave?

[mugen88]

R they here yet??

[EKVTIR-T]

d2 and ksport are the same
Funny how the prices aren't though......;)

[vyets]

d2 coils are advertised at 1.7k in magazines.
d2 ksport are made in taiwan, they design and looks are excatly the same but diffrent in colour
both monotube 2way height adjustable with 36way damper adjustments.
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7981/6450p1010078fe6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9907/coilzfe7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[EKVTIR-T]

Vyets I agree with you that theyre the same.A few dealers sell D2s for $1200-1300.I'm wondering how certain people sell KSports at a much higher price thats all....:)

[Xplodin]

Up Date Lah.... Hopefuly gettin them in today/ nite... although i'm still not holding my breath...
Hey Vyet I was speakin to Duy last week n he said ur ones were Softening up...

[vyets]

yea, they handle the same, they just not "bumpy" like when i first got them. guess they just wore in?

[SiReal]

woot woot!!! go johnno!!!!

[Xplodin]

Update y0! They are in town :D

[Xplodin]

Update again y0!
They are in :D Woot Woot!

[Xplodin]

Now here's a pic

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/Xplodin/Misc%20Stuff/main.jpg

Dont shoot me for the rims ok :P

[philBo]

hows the ride on the d2's?

[SiReal]

I sat in his car just now..its really good. not too bumpy, not too soft. really really nice. all he needs now is a RSB and it should handle well.

[MRH-22A]

hey thats pretty low. can it go any lower?

and is that an aftermarket sunroof???

nice ride dude!

ur model accord usualli has crome around the front grill... did u paint it?

[Xplodin]

hey thats pretty low. can it go any lower?

and is that an aftermarket sunroof???

nice ride dude!

ur model accord usualli has crome around the front grill... did u paint it?

LOL Yeah it can go lower.... When we first put in the suss, droped it and the lowest part of the car was sitting on the ground.... Which happens to be the support beam under the engine.

Yep sure is an After market Sunroof..... Tilt Baby Bring on the Tilt! OEM doesnt have tilt:P

And yeah i painted it Chrome looked gay as with the SiR lights, just didnt look right, so i went for the stealth look and it turned out pretty good and i'm quite happy with it.