EURO MY07 changes

[80057]

I've searched around, but cant find anything anywhere.

Does anyone know of any changes to the MY07 model over the 06 model?

[stephen8512]

doubt there would be much changes, if not any at all
the change came only last year for the 06 model from the previous 03-05 so i dont think there would be much difference, cosmetic or otherwise

[80057]

i didnt expect any cosmetic changes as you said there was the 06 change, just sometimes there little things and maybe diff wheels or something,

[corn_flakes]

yeh, maybe they'll get rid of the ugly UGLY stock 16" wheels that came on the 2006 standard models...

[industrie]

no there are no changes from what the dealers have told me from the 06 models,

[aaronng]

Not changed, only the choice of a new colour and black interior with black paint.

[VirIIx]

I'm waiting for the chrome parts to show on the spoiler and body kits ^__^ it will match that fugly chrome grille :p

[bluedez_man]

Not changed, only the choice of a new colour and black interior with black paint.

The new colour is called Mocha Brown. :confused:

[VirIIx]

mocha brown?

is that like the ugly burgandy red they had years ago? -_-

Im guessing it's lighter in colour?

[aaronng]

mocha brown?

is that like the ugly burgandy red they had years ago? -_-

Im guessing it's lighter in colour?

I reckon the red was a bit too oldish. But the dark blue was hot. Too bad it came only with the beige interior.

Mocha... I hope it's like the DC5S's bronze.

[bluedez_man]

You can actually see it in the Honda website (must have been added recently)
http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/Honda.com.au/Home/Showroom/Accord+Euro/Colour+and+Trim/
The colour is actually called 'Dark Mocha'

[MiSloVic]

mocha brown?

is that like the ugly burgandy red they had years ago? -_-

Im guessing it's lighter in colour?

the dark mocha looks much better in the flesh

[corn_flakes]

that's one fugly colour...

they should have come out with a canary yellow...or that green they have on the BA xr6's....:D

[aaronng]

Dark mocha's coming with the beige interior, which imo is a BAD combo.... Black interior ftw!

[VirIIx]

Hrmm.. it looks fugly on the website.. guess i'll have to rock up at the Honda showroom to see it in the flesh.. though.. would need to see it in the sunlight to appreciate it properly :|

[80057]

i saw a mocha when i picked my car up yesterday, it was on a transport truck so i didnt get a good look,but saying that i didnt like it, the biege interior is a terrible combo, and yeh no changes i asked the dealer again yesterday (3rd different guy i have asked)

[stephen8512]

I reckon the red was a bit too oldish. But the dark blue was hot. Too bad it came only with the beige interior.

Mocha... I hope it's like the DC5S's bronze.

i believe the DC5S bronze u are referring to is called BLAZE ORANGE

XPLOSV from these forums has one and he was on the recent OH pre-xmas cruise too...

[IAMVTEC]

Mochas not too bad, considering all the crap colours that could have been offered instead like champaigne, dark old people red or green.

Or even worse something like that sky blue on the new camry. That is terrible.

[VirIIx]

oh yeah.. gg Toyota and Mazda..

it's the same baby blue on the camry's and the new mazda3's lol..

so ghey.

[hondarox]

Don't expect any major changes in '07 range. New Accord Euro to be released in Japan in 4th qtr '07 and arrives here in 1st qtr '08.

[IAMVTEC]

oh yeah.. gg Toyota and Mazda..

it's the same baby blue on the camry's and the new mazda3's lol..

so ghey.

Arr I actually that blue on a tshirt or something, but not on a car. I do like the light blue Honda offers for the Jazz and Civic though. It has a bit of silver, quite nice.

[VirIIx]

Don't mind me.. I just loving dissing our pitiful Toyota brethren :p

When is the diesel version marked for release again? late 07?

[sodaz]

Don't expect any major changes in '07 range. New Accord Euro to be released in Japan in 4th qtr '07 and arrives here in 1st qtr '08.

Any changes to the engine and drivetrain?

[aaronng]

Any changes to the engine and drivetrain?

Japan gets their 147kW, we get the crappy 140kW engine. USA gets their 205 SAE hp engine with a TPMS system.

[me_kevinly]

has any one seen mocha's on the roads ???

[sodaz]

Japan gets their 147kW, we get the crappy 140kW engine. USA gets their 205 SAE hp engine with a TPMS system.

Yeah it's true. With engines we tend to get the crap stuff even though our fuel quality is better than the US.

[Sampson]

I like the Burgandy Red nice luxury car coulor the metalic realy shine nice in the sun:thumbsup:

[Gibbo]

i haven't seen a mocha in the flesh but is it similar to the radiant ebony that the mazda 6 comes in ??? Now THAT is one sexy colour... :)

[h1coupe]

I have an 06 type-S dark mocha pearl.
it´s really special. I fell in love with it when I saw it:)

http://www.barnaland.is/album/img/9521/20060305211554_1.jpg
http://www.barnaland.is/album/img//9521/20060305211650_2.jpg

I know they are crappy pictures, but you kinda get the idea of how it looks like ;)

[industrie]

thats not a bad colour...:p

[rusty]

Don't expect any major changes in '07 range. New Accord Euro to be released in Japan in 4th qtr '07 and arrives here in 1st qtr '08.

Who told you this? Is it official from Honda? What will it look like? Any picture?

[VirIIx]

Again.. you'd need one in the bright sunlight to see what it really looks like..

Looking in the dark doesn't mean anything...

Nothing a paper bag can't fix :p

[badthing]

has any one seen mocha's on the roads ???
I saw one a couple of nights ago on the road. It was brand new so it looked shinier than the one on the honda website. Colour is more suitable for the other Accord IMO.

[VirIIx]

an old man's colour? XD

[EuroDude]

Meh that Mocha colour is more suited to the Legend or MDX imo

[ZEi20T]

Yeah it's true. With engines we tend to get the crap stuff even though our fuel quality is better than the US.

thats not entirely true

their octane rating system is different. the RON levels and quality are the same

the cost however is much cheaper!

[aaronng]

thats not entirely true

their octane rating system is different. the RON levels and quality are the same

the cost however is much cheaper!

Once you convert their rating to ours, it's the same. But, they have ethanol in almost all their fuel including their 93PON. At least we don't have any ethanol.

[yfin]

Once you convert their rating to ours, it's the same. But, they have ethanol in almost all their fuel including their 93PON. At least we don't have any ethanol.

True - they even have E90 in some places now - 90% ethanol fuel.

[EuroDude]

^ for instance Brazil who have been using 100% Ethanol or a high mix of Petrol+Ethanol for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

Strange how Aus hasn't converted to Ethanol as well, dont we have heaps of sugarcane resources?

[ZEi20T]

i knew in south america they were using up to E90

but in the states still it was 'regular' fuel hmmm

[aaronng]

E90 is different to petrol. E90 is bioethanol. US petrol is usually E5 or E10 across the range.

[VirIIx]

GM also produces the majority of those exports to Brazil, so another question would be, if that technology and production already exists.. why don't we all just goto E90 in Australia and have GM just roll out those models?

Ahh well..

[EuroDude]

but in the states still it was 'regular' fuel hmmm

Because all their sugarcane resources go Pepsi and CocaCola lol

Na seriously, its probably because the greedy government prefers Petrol because they make billions from their fuel tax, just like Aus..

[IAMVTEC]

I saw the Mocha, its actually very nice. In dark lighting its very similar to the black but in sun its very stylish.

I like, it goes well with the beige interior too but I think you can get it in black interior too???

After seeing that I rank the colours like this

Graphite>Black>Mocha>Blue>White>the rest

[Euro76]

The car I'm getting early next week is a 2007 model. Luckily now I can get black interior on when I choose Nighthawk Black Pearl color where it wasn't previously available on 2006 model or earlier :cool:

[EuroDude]

^ for the Standard Euro, I find that the tan is better than the black. When I drove a Std loan car with black, the seat fabric looked kindof cheap. Although the black interior looks find with the lux's black leather. But thats just my opinion :p

[tron07]

I got a graphite... sometimes I am glad they dont have black with black interior for 06 models when I am washing and waxing the car, else I would also own a black with black...

black need a lot of TLC compare to other colours.

[Euro76]

I've seen too much Graphite on the streets. I know it's popular color but it's just too common. Black is fewer and looks mean on Euro, all I need to do is put 18' wheels and lower it to make it looks meaner :thumbsup:

That's just my opinion though. I can't wait to get my Euro delivered few days from now :D

[VirIIx]

He he.. there are just too many Euro's on the road IMO.. lots of the new 06 ones with the massive chrome :thumbdwn:

Lots of graphite and blacks around as always, rarely see any of the other colours. Red if it's the sport variant.

Why did they even move away from the nice jdm looking alloys to that ugly US looking one?

That was such a bad move..

Will be interesting to see the new complete Euro released.. there are so many rumours flying around as to what it might look like.. and if it's that prototype one from the motorshow, my feelings are a bit mixed.

[IAMVTEC]

I think black looks better stock but graphite is better lowered with some bigger rims and maybe a kit too.

I agree theres too many Euros on the road but who really cares. Its a car, cars arent made to show your individuality. Its just a tool lo, its not like clothes that becomes one with your body its just a machine that you use but would be exactly same if somebody else drove it. And if you wanted theres many ways to differentiate your euros, get custom plates, do it up, etc.... Theres a reason theres many Euros on the road! its because its a good car!!

[80057]

There are heaps on the road i agree, but thats cos its a great car, being my first spanking new car, i was very careful about which car to buy, i like to buy cars that have been around a couple of years to see if reviews and if there are recalls and defects etc. i must admit i liked the aurion (as i need a family car) but since it just came out with hardly any reviews i didnt even really have it as an option, i know toyota has a awesome rep for build quality but you never know these days. I also like the reviews done after a couple of years as good reviewers will talk about how things are going after having one for a few years, we all see hyundais winning best car awards and same with holden and ford, yeh they have merits but i want to know how they are going 3-4 years later, when build quality and reliability come in. I dont have money to spend on a new car every 2 years so i want something that will last.

[EuroDude]

Meh there arent that many euro's on the road. I probably see around 3-6 in the morning within an hour. Whereas I see 200 commodores, 150 falcons, and 2 billion camry's.
Actually I see more Jazz's than any other honda

[BiLL|z0r]

Meh there arent that many euro's on the road. I probably see around 3-6 in the morning within an hour. Whereas I see 200 commodores, 150 falcons, and 2 billion camry's.
Actually I see more Jazz's than any other honda

LOL, I agree. You only notice Euro's becuase we have 1. It's like when my wife got her white Magna we then noticed 3 billion the same colour and model.

[80057]

i past cars include, gen 3 crx, a mitsu starion and a nissan gazelle, so i guess im used to not seeing many at all.

i agree bommodores, falcons and camrys are everywhere. there arent many euros from where in from in western sydney but a quite a few on the way to work towards the city. it probably is be cos we own em we look out for em, i dont see many modded ones apart from the odd one with rims on.

[ROBERT]

Does anyone have an idea how many Euro's have been manufactured? and where the majority have gone too if not North America?

[yfin]

Does anyone have an idea how many Euro's have been manufactured? and where the majority have gone too if not North America?

It is a different car though in North America

[EuroAccord13]

I read somewhere that in 2006, over 10 000 Euros were sold... mmmmmm

[EuroDude]

According to Wheels mag, they sell almost 1000 per month in Aus, so 10,000+ for 2006 seems correct.

No idea how many they sell world wide, possibly 15,000+ per month

[edit] found the figures for Honda Aus's 2006 sales~

Jazz 9,441
Civic 13,536
Accord Euro 10,013
Accord 6,702
Odyssey 3,002
Integra 610
S2000 30
CR-V 10,069
MDX 558
Legend 241
http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/Honda.com.au/Home/News/Honda+Sets+New+Sales+Record+for+the+Fourth+Consecu tive+Year

[yfin]

I read somewhere that in 2006, over 10 000 Euros were sold... mmmmmm

and in the period July 03 to Sep 04 they sold 11,379.... linky (http://www.recalls.gov.au/view_recall_detail.php?Recall_ID_Auto=13139)

There has to be over 30,000 Euros now in Australia... :(

In the USA they only sell about 2,900 Acura TSXs per month. linky (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/10/03/023860.html)

[IAMVTEC]

Meh there arent that many euro's on the road. I probably see around 3-6 in the morning within an hour. Whereas I see 200 commodores, 150 falcons, and 2 billion camry's.
Actually I see more Jazz's than any other honda

Na it depends where in Sydney you are. In my area Euro is the most common Honda, also more common than Camry or Commodore. Overall there is more Commodores and Camries since they been around for decades. But in last couple of years model I see Euro the most.

The most common cars(new models) on the streets is probably Euro, Mazda3, and BMW 3 series.

But really depends on the area. Last time I drove down south to the shire and there were hardly any Euros. But last time in Chinatown carpark I saw 8 Euros no exaggeration on the same floor. And I would guess there would be lots of Commodores out west.

[aaronng]

Heaps of IS250s around my area now. It's lost its "wow" factor after seeing so many of them.

[Gibbo]

I know one thing the 07 wont have... A hondata flash for a while... lol

[tony1234]

Heaps of IS250s around my area now. It's lost its "wow" factor after seeing so many of them.
Yeah but its still a hot looking car.

[80057]

its still a goodlooking car but its lost some of the intial wow, i dont think the shape is as timeless as some others

[tron07]

IS250 used to be hot looking, until the new Camry/Aurion came out with similar body shape, just slightly different headlights and tail-lights.

Black Euro is cool, but needs a lot time to keep it lookin cool/clean.

[EuroDude]

I know one thing the 07 wont have... A hondata flash for a while... lol

lol. na it should be the same as the MY06 ecu.


The IS250's are indeed tasty. Although its funny seeing full sized drivers squashed up in there lol :o
Sometimes its hard to tell a Black/Graphite Euro+lip kit from an IS250 at a distance, both have a similar body shape and lights.

[IAMVTEC]

Agree IS250 is a joke size. I think that car was designed for children. I can fit fine in any Honda, normal height 1.8m and weight but I cant even drive a 250 with seat on lowest height setting. I liken its drivers seat to the backseat of an Integra. Its that bad.

[aaronng]

Agree IS250 is a joke size. I think that car was designed for children. I can fit fine in any Honda, normal height 1.8m and weight but I cant even drive a 250 with seat on lowest height setting. I liken its drivers seat to the backseat of an Integra. Its that bad.

I don't think you are that tall to not be able to fit in the IS250 comfortably.. The driver's seat was large and comfortable enough for me.

[VirIIx]

Seen the new IS-F? set to be released in 2008 from memory..

Lexus' attempt to strike back in high performance. Impressive stats tho, but with that amount of money I think it will come out for, i'd prefer to buy an Audi RS4.. though.. that's a nice car :]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/2008-lexus-is-f/

The IS 250 still has it's flare, but the new camry takes away it's charm for trying to be a lexus is250 look-a-like and i didn't see the mention of an IS350 coming to our shores yet either, unless i missed that.

[IAMVTEC]

I don't think you are that tall to not be able to fit in the IS250 comfortably.. The driver's seat was large and comfortable enough for me.

I dunno but for me, in a driving position my head(mostly my hair) was scratching the ceiling. I had to recline the seat at a almost sleeping angle to get some head room. I spend quite long on hair and I really dont want to spend luxury money to have it messed up through driving.

[aaronng]

I dunno but for me, in a driving position my head(mostly my hair) was scratching the ceiling. I had to recline the seat at a almost sleeping angle to get some head room. I spend quite long on hair and I really dont want to spend luxury money to have it messed up through driving.
WTF? You have hair like Marge Simpson?
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2606/31809076siteimg0004wm3.jpg

[DJR]

I understand that we are moving off the topic of the original thread but I test drove an IS250 before buying the Euro. The IS250 had a beautiful interior but I could not live with the damn clutch and gearbox combo. Anyone else have the same experience?

[Euro76]

I understand that we are moving off the topic of the original thread but I test drove an IS250 before buying the Euro. The IS250 had a beautiful interior but I could not live with the damn clutch and gearbox combo. Anyone else have the same experience?

I have test drove IS250 automatic before. Compared to my Euro, IS250 is far better in terms with build quality and ride really smooth. But at 1600kg and 155kw it's a pork and slower than my Euro. I gotta say I would love to own this car but can't afford it as yet :p

[IAMVTEC]

Suspension is nice in 250 and engine is silent at low rev but too small. My hair isnt high its just styled to be high volume and yea I guess it takes up a few cms.

[VirIIx]

if you have spikey hair.. the is250 feels cramped.. i agree, it's a bit low on the headroom, and the back seats feel cramped as well.