Upshifting technique?

[EK4R]

First of all happy new year ppl.

anyways i had a search around and came up with a few answers and alot of spammers so i decided to ask anyways.

i find it upshifting during high rpm (redline) especially difficult to pull off a smooth shift to reduce power loss. some people say drop the clutch + flooring it, some say double clutch. others told me to slow the release of clutch but then it burns the clutch....

what do you guys do?

[d15z1SUX]

i just shift like normal?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

flat shift

[d15z1SUX]

is that when your flooring it. then you just push the clutch and change gear while ur foot is still on the accelerator?

[aaronng]

shift like normal. Those telling you to double clutch are F&F wankers (sad to say). Why? Go and read up on what double clutching is and you'll realise that it is about 2x slower than granny shifting. LOL

Just remember, clutch in fully. When the clutch pedal is about 3/4 on its way down, you shift, so that from 1st to neutral, the pedal is almost to the floor and when you go from neutral to 2nd, the pedal is fully to the floor to avoid grinding. When pulling the shifter, don't do it like a quick light slam. What happens is that it doesn't get into 2nd gear and pops back out in to neutral. What you want is a quick firm shift so that you are fully in 2nd gear. Release the clutch in one quick action while applying full throttle in the same foot movement. If you apply throttle too early, you are essentially flat shifting and that wears out your drivetrain quick.

And of course, flat shifting will be the fastest assuming that you are able to shift into 2nd quick.

[blk_shadow]

it is difficult to pull off a very smooth shift esp. on 1st to 2nd gear, I reckon every cars are like that. just drop the clutch, don't release it slowly.

[blk_shadow]

Release the clutch in one quick action while applying full throttle in the same foot movement.

:thumbsup: ditto it. while dropping the clutch, apply full throttle at the same time

[turtleEK1]

practice and seating position is another factor... have your seat in a comfortable position where your not cramped nor too far away to push the clutch in...

and don't rush your shift... like aaron said... get the process right... and THEN worry about speed

[zco]

put your left foot onto clutch pedal (furethest on the left) then press it in. hold it in. use your left hand to change gears. release your left foot. put your right foot onto the accelerator. do this process fast. HAHA

seriously, i just drive how i do on the streets. just 32487519835times faster.

[akira]

practice practice and practice....that's all i got to say!

[JDM96R]

shift like normal. Those telling you to double clutch are F&F wankers (sad to say). Why? Go and read up on what double clutching is and you'll realise that it is about 2x slower than granny shifting. LOL

Just remember, clutch in fully. When the clutch pedal is about 3/4 on its way down, you shift, so that from 1st to neutral, the pedal is almost to the floor and when you go from neutral to 2nd, the pedal is fully to the floor to avoid grinding. When pulling the shifter, don't do it like a quick light slam. What happens is that it doesn't get into 2nd gear and pops back out in to neutral. What you want is a quick firm shift so that you are fully in 2nd gear. Release the clutch in one quick action while applying full throttle in the same foot movement. If you apply throttle too early, you are essentially flat shifting and that wears out your drivetrain quick.

And of course, flat shifting will be the fastest assuming that you are able to shift into 2nd quick.

Sorry for n00b question, but when just driving normally are you able to change from any gear into neutral ie 3rd and then just pull down into neutral without using the clutch and this doesnt harm your gearbox/clutch???

[mrwillz]

no cant go neutral from a gear wifout clutch IN

this one time my friend tried to drive the car.. somehow my clutch was invisible so went to gear 1 to 2 wif no clutch..
the creak from that was heart breaking...

[aaronng]

Sorry for n00b question, but when just driving normally are you able to change from any gear into neutral ie 3rd and then just pull down into neutral without using the clutch and this doesnt harm your gearbox/clutch???

You can't pull down from gear to neutral without feeling resistance. And it is bad for your gearbox. So for the 99.99% of the time when you are driving on the street, you press the clutch in fully and then shift. For that 0.01% of the time when you are at the drag strip, you can find the actual clutch release point where you can pull it from a gear to neutral without much resistance. That will help you speed up your shift on the drag strip.

[JDM96R]

no cant go neutral from a gear wifout clutch IN

this one time my friend tried to drive the car.. somehow my clutch was invisible so went to gear 1 to 2 wif no clutch..
the creak from that was heart breaking...


Yea but im talking about going from 1st to neutral not 1st to second

[incoming]

is that when your flooring it. then you just push the clutch and change gear while ur foot is still on the accelerator?

this is what i do.
but its gotta be done hard and fast.

[mrwillz]

You can't pull down from gear to neutral without feeling resistance. And it is bad for your gearbox. So for the 99.99% of the time when you are driving on the street, you press the clutch in fully and then shift.


Yea but im talking about going from 1st to neutral not 1st to second

ne gear mate (1-5/6).... is a no no
dont tell me u stil do it in ur jdm dc2r

[terroristone]

at the track i put my seat one notch forward just to be sure i am pushing the clutch all the way to the floor.
Andrew

[aznpsuazn]

Sorry for n00b question, but when just driving normally are you able to change from any gear into neutral ie 3rd and then just pull down into neutral without using the clutch and this doesnt harm your gearbox/clutch???

I find that you can do this without harming the gearbox if you pull it into neutral at the exact moment between acceleration and deceleration. this is where the driveline itself will be at a "neutral" state. It is a very smooth and harmless move. You dont even need to "pull" it so to speak, it will slide out with a the least encouragement should you get the timing right.

Dont see why you would want to do this anyway.