apexi pod filters

[typerinside]

whats the difference between a normal sports pod filter (not factory) to an apexi power intake pod filter, i had experiences in using both pod filters but didnt feel any differences, is it jus the brand and durability?

im putting in a cold air intake, but not sure if i should use the pod filter that came with it or use my apexi pod, coz if theres no diff between the two ill jus sell my apexi too make a little money,

[notorious_ahmie]

its both brand and durability

like the apexi u pretty dont have to do anything to it..u just leave it there cause its a dry based filter..just the occasional dust off

u got K&N which are oil based ones and require reoilin wen u clean them..

other shitty brand ones..like 40 dollar ones are crap..they might fall apart..they might let nothin through..i wouldnt bother..stick to ur apexi..u got bling yO

[aaronng]

The Apexi pod is a dry filter. So you won't get a buildup of oil in your intake arm and throttle body after using it for a long time.

[czy_sol87]

its both brand and durability

other shitty brand ones..like 40 dollar ones are crap..they might fall apart..they might let nothin through..i wouldnt bother..stick to ur apexi..u got bling yO

thats not necessarily true, i've got the new autosalon mag(issue 51 if ur interested) and they have tested many different pod filters, both cheap and expensive on a flow bench and they found that best one is a "3A Racing" pod filter for $30, it had the best filtation and also best flow

[notorious_ahmie]

thats not necessarily true, i've got the new autosalon mag(issue 51 if ur interested) and they have tested many different pod filters, both cheap and expensive on a flow bench and they found that best one is a "3A Racing" pod filter for $30, it had the best filtation and also best flow



yeh i saw that article..but i find it hard to believe..

i cant remember where the link was..i tried lookin b4..and it had a test on all of the filters as well..apexi was up there..ill try a bit later on..wen i get home ay

[czy_sol87]

apexi $125 got 7th for Flow, and 6th for Filtration
3A Racing $28.95 got 1st for Flow, and 2nd for Filtration

even if the 3A pod gets dirty, u can just buy another one cheaply, not that pods get majorly dirty anyway

[aaronng]

thats not necessarily true, i've got the new autosalon mag(issue 51 if ur interested) and they have tested many different pod filters, both cheap and expensive on a flow bench and they found that best one is a "3A Racing" pod filter for $30, it had the best filtation and also best flow

Is Autosalon Magazine as bad as Hot4s?

Here's the link to a jap test: http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/

[notorious_ahmie]

thanks aaron..i rest my case czy_sol

in the end the test that were done there we dont know how the honestly went and wat actually went into it

test it out for urself..see wat makes u happy

[iced]

Ive used many pod filters.

Atm currently im using a K&n. Sometimes they are on sale for $70 at supercheap/autobarn.
You definitely pay for the quality.

The build quality of simota and 3aracing (same) power stack are very good. THis was the first pod i ever used. I used it for over 1.5 years. During that 1yr+ it was in a CAI with the pod behind the bumper with only half a splash guard.
The can visually see the quality of the element. It was very durable. Only the metal strip that holds the filter element in the circular shape became corroded after exposure to repeat wet weather, flicking up of water. road elements.
Its understandable because the pods weren't designed to get wet. The cotton holds the moisture even though it is oiled. However the filtering element held up perfect.

3aracing one imho is better quality than SAAS pod filters. I had a SAAS one where the wire mesh that holds the filter element began to rust. Well this was because i dont have half a splash guard and the tyre flicks up water onto the pod whenever it rained. The mesh was only galvanised from the looks of it so constant moisture got to it when it is drying off. However if using it in the dry the element seems to be very good. You can get these for $20-25.

THe worse quality pod ive seen are AUtotechnica and MAtrix brand ones.
THe filtering element is rubbish. It looks so much more like paper than cotton.
Never buy these brands ones.

If the price of the 3aracing pods have dropped to under $30 i will get this one. THey used to be $45 range and only rarely on sale for $25.

Ive never seen a pod fall apart.
To be honest the first to fall apart i think would be the APexi pods.
I always see them crumpled as though the mesh support for the filter element wasnt even there.

I wouldnt mind reading that article in ASM to see how they tested in.
Id only touch cotton based filters. Foam filter id seem to stay away from.

[aaronng]

Cotton and foam filters rely on the oil to trap particles. Paper filters rely on the filter material. Although Apexi claims lifetime use, they sell replacement filter elements, so it is probably meant to be replaced somewhere along the line.

[aimre]

The Apexi pod is a dry filter. So you won't get a buildup of oil in your intake arm and throttle body after using it for a long time.

That amount of oil is negligable compared to the amount your pvc valve will through into your intake.

The K&n oil thing is really only a problem with Forced induction Nissans. Their Air flow meter is right after their pod, so oil of the filter can easily get on it, our is after the TB so it travels for like a meter b4 it gets ther.

[typerinside]

thats what i notice with apexi pod intakes, they crumple up after a while, compare to my previous pods, they stay as it is,

[aaronng]

That amount of oil is negligable compared to the amount your pvc valve will through into your intake.

The K&n oil thing is really only a problem with Forced induction Nissans. Their Air flow meter is right after their pod, so oil of the filter can easily get on it, our is after the TB so it travels for like a meter b4 it gets ther.

Oil from the PCV valve is introduced AFTER the throttle body. It doesn't cause the throttle body to become sticky.

The airflow meter doesn't have to be right after the pod. Many Toyota owners experience MAF sensor fouling eventhough the sensor is located pretty far back from the pod. Our B and K series don't have air flow meters, so that is not a problem. But the new R series does.

[aaronng]

thats what i notice with apexi pod intakes, they crumple up after a while, compare to my previous pods, they stay as it is,

You're not meant to touch your pod after it is mounted. And when it is mounted, it must not touch any of the surfaces in the engine bay.

[TheSaint]

iv got an apexi on my b18c and it produces a nice sound/performance/fuel econ ratio but it crumpled and i think its on its way out =(

i like the sound of these simota air intakes

i was also looking at the mugen one... but over 1k$ for CAI ???!!

[aimre]

Oil from the PCV valve is introduced AFTER the throttle body. It doesn't cause the throttle body to become sticky.




Then what hose to u plug up to that intake arm?http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/82000081/Images/1/RF-H-003RD.jpg


I wasnt saying throttle becomes sticky, i was say our AFM (or what ever sensor in in the intake, is after our TB, and our TB is quiet a distance from where the filter would sit, thus is safe to say, any sensors what could be fouled by this oil are far away.

But that shouldnt be to much concern, what would be of more concern is oil from pcv thats much closer to the TB and sensor behind it.

[aaronng]

Then what hose to u plug up to that intake arm?http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/82000081/Images/1/RF-H-003RD.jpg


I wasnt saying throttle becomes sticky, i was say our AFM (or what ever sensor in in the intake, is after our TB, and our TB is quiet a distance from where the filter would sit, thus is safe to say, any sensors what could be fouled by this oil are far away.

But that shouldnt be to much concern, what would be of more concern is oil from pcv thats much closer to the TB and sensor behind it.
The hose that plugs in before the TB is the rocker cover vent. If you follow the tube, it goes into the rocker cover. The PCV vent hose comes from near midway in the block and goes into the intake manifold itself.

If you have a B or D, you don't have an AFM. You have a MAP sensor. MAP sensors are less sensitive to oil fouling.

[aimre]

The hose that plugs in before the TB is the rocker cover vent. If you follow the tube, it goes into the rocker cover. The PCV vent hose comes from near midway in the block and goes into the intake manifold itself.

If you have a B or D, you don't have an AFM. You have a MAP sensor. MAP sensors are less sensitive to oil fouling.

Sorry my bad, i was under the impression that the rocker cover vent was called pcv, my bad. But oil would still come out of there , probably more so than from a pod, thus that would more likely foul up any sensor, MAP, before the actual pod filter oil fouls it.

I hope i make sense. Just replace PCV in all my last posts with RCV (Rocker Cover Vent :p;))

Either way, all im saying is pod filter oil shouldn be a problem

[XcOn]

hey guys ill take a pic of my crumpled apexi air intake tmrw. i now use a power enterprise air filter which is the same design as the apexi only more flow passes through. havent had a problem with it since. only downfall is that they are so expensive. costed me $200
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/inteke_exhaust/air_impulse/air_impulse.html

[aaronng]

hey guys ill take a pic of my crumpled apexi air intake tmrw. i now use a power enterprise air filter which is the same design as the apexi only more flow passes through. havent had a problem with it since. only downfall is that they are so expensive. costed me $200
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/inteke_exhaust/air_impulse/air_impulse.html

I'll go downstairs and take a pic of mine too. The Power enterprise one has filter material at the end. That will cause turbulence in the pod. That's the reason why Apexi seals the end with a plastic inverted cone instead.

[aaronng]

Either way, all im saying is pod filter oil shouldn be a problem

Yup, you won't get fouling of the sensors on a B, D, H and K series engine. Just oilling of the TB which is cleaned off with TB cleaner anyway. But those with an R series engine, they have both AFM and MAP sensors, so they should be aware of the risks.

[aaronng]

I took the cover off my enclosure, and my pod was not crushed. It looks just like when I first installed the pod. Heaps of leaf bits all around, even on the top of the filter though. I forgot my digicam. I think I'll go down to take a pic now.

Edit: Pics!

After 1/2 a year of running the apexi pod:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8183/zzzzzzzzdscn0464em1.jpg

There is even little stones and small pieces of leaves on the top surface of the filter! Must be like a tornado in there when driving.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4066/zzzzzzzzzzzzzzdscn0466ej2.jpg

[mrwillz]

Ive used many pod filters.

Ive never seen a pod fall apart.
To be honest the first to fall apart i think would be the APexi pods.
I always see them crumpled as though the mesh support for the filter element wasnt even there.




ive seen no name pods fall apart rofl
funny shit i tell ya
the neck of the pod was plastic! yes plastic
and the thing jus fell in bits rofll

[JasonGilholme]

Sorry my bad, i was under the impression that the rocker cover vent was called pcv, my bad. But oil would still come out of there , probably more so than from a pod, thus that would more likely foul up any sensor, MAP, before the actual pod filter oil fouls it.

I hope i make sense. Just replace PCV in all my last posts with RCV (Rocker Cover Vent :p;))

Either way, all im saying is pod filter oil shouldn be a problem

The Rocker cover vent doesn't actually go straight to the valves. I've had a look at the under side of the rocker cover and there is no place where i could find that the air flow would escape into any areas that the oil would be in.

Which means that the air and the oil would always be TOTALLY seperated. This also means that anyway that has a catch can hooked up to their rocker vent is just carring around a shinny can for no reason at all.

[aaronng]

Which means that the air and the oil would always be TOTALLY seperated. This also means that anyway that has a catch can hooked up to their rocker vent is just carring around a shinny can for no reason at all.
Yeah, most people mistake the rocker cover vent as the pcv vent. That's why they always hook up their catch cans wrongly. But I also know of ppl who route both the pcv and rocker cover vent to the catch can to cover both sources.

[aimre]

Only cos heaps of ppl tell them that (on this site)

thanks for clearing things up, though, apon further actual research, i found that it wasn't actually on the rocker cover