help!!!pls!pls!pls!

[civicVI]

i am in VIC!i was sell my car to somebody who live in NSW for 5 months ago!!! and today that guy just ring me said that car can't registration in NSW!!how come that car can't get the registration in NSW? and what can that guy can do?:confused: i have check my car in VICROADS b4 i sell it they say nothing wrong with my car!

i have already go to VICROADS to ask .... they say that car haven't pay rego for 4 months then its canceled already no more info in VICROADS database.

pls help me!! because that guy disturb me!and that guy said i tell a lie for him to buy my car!!how come?!as i say my car is nothing wrong in VIC! and when he inspect the car ... he also say "NO PROBLEMS OF IT"!!and i already told him i don't know this car can be registration in NSW or not and he say "NO PROBLEMS"also when he buy the car i have already tell him ask RTA b4 he come to VIC to inspect the car.

thanks guys!

[Zdster]

Your post is very difficult to read due to your grammer, but I think I extrapolated these facts:

You sold your car five months ago to an interstate buyer. At the time of the sale you got a roadworthy and went to vicroads to make sure that it complies with all the legalities. Now the purchaser has turned around and claims the car cant be registered in his state.

Is this correct?


Now while I am no legal advisor, I would have thought that unless you misrepresented yourself (by saying that it could be registered interstate when it couldnt) that he wouldnt have had much of a strong defence as you would have signed a legal contract. My personal suggestion would be to speak with a legal advisor and make sure you document all future communications with the buyer.

[mugeneration]

Please use better English next time.

Anyway, you had your car registered in VIC and was fine. As far as you knew your car was fine. When you buy a car privately there is no warranty or anything so he has nothing on you. You could buy the car back off him if you want but I wouldnt. If he threatens you go to the police. Simple :-)

[JasonGilholme]

When you sell a vehicle it's meant to have a safety certificate from the state that its being sold in.

If you've done this then you have done no wrong. If you've sold a car without a Safety Certificate then you haven't followed your obligations as a seller.

I suggest that you pull up or the paper records from the sale of the car (which you should have kept) and let him know that at the time of sale the car was roadworthy as stated by the road worthy certificate.

Also, remember that its been 5 months. How come they didn't try to register the car sooner?? Sounds dodgey.

Further more, if this person starts to threaten you, take it to the police. If you know yourself that you've followed the correct procedures in selling the car there is nothing that he can do to you so you should feel safe in approaching the authorites about the matter.

[civicVI]

[QUOTE=mugeneration;1030298]Please use better English next time.


SORRY ABOUT THAT! i am discompose!:(

[civicVI]

that guy just ring me say
"can he get the registration in VIC.. then drive back to NSW! But he carry on a nsw licence!"

[mrwillz]

so my question now is how come its 'now' it cant b registered
wot happened in the 5 mths?

[civicVI]

so my question now is how come its 'now' it can b registered
wot happened in the 5 mths?

he told me he drive a unregistered vehicle! catch by police! so need to re-register it!

[nvdvtc]

well i can say that the guy is trying 2 *** u up if he said that its alrite b4 say thats ur problem now i sold the car 2 u and now its urs i dont noe wat u done but its ur problem its his fault who cares doesnt matter the guy wants 2 give u a hard time

[Fr3aKi3]

I honestly don't see why it's taken him 5 months to change the registrations, that is one of the first things that you get done.

[civicVI]

and i have got a exceed speed limit penalty notice of that car form NSW 2 weeks ago!! thats mean he didn't change the ownership till now!

[mrwillz]

wth why this guy dont change ownership
call up n ask him
technically u stil got a car then... GET IT BACK
mayb his a crim eg. using a car this not 'his'

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

thats dodgy. i dont think he's telling you the full story about how he recieved the fine

[civicVI]

wth why this guy dont change ownership
call up n ask him
technically u stil got a car then... GET IT BACK
mayb his a crim eg. using a car this not 'his'



i have ask him! he say RTA don't let the car registration in NSW so he can't change ownership!

[civicVI]

thats dodgy. i dont think he's telling you the full story about how he recieved the fine


no the car is on his way! but he exceed speed then i recieved the fine! that's mean the car still under my name!

[civicVI]

anyone know can he get the registration in VIC.. then drive back to NSW? But he carry on a nsw licence?!

[Duesta]

in NSW when u sell a car, u give the RTA a notice of disposal slip saying that u either sold the car or got rid of it so its no longer under your registration or posession. I dont know what thw VICROADS equivalent is, but did you even do that? If so, you technically shouldn't be liable for the fine.

Also, I dont know what the circumstances on this car is, but what are the reasons the RTA gave him for it not being registerable? Does he need to get it blue slipped & inspected again before getting a pink slip? Has he even consulted the RTA as to what he should do to get it registered in NSW?

This guy seems awfully suss, but if you've done everything properly, given vicroads notice that you have sold the car and is no longer your posession, and given him all the docos he needs as stated by other members above, then you should have no liability for anything he does from that point on.

[mrwillz]

This guy seems awfully suss, but if you've done everything properly, given vicroads notice that you have sold the car and is no longer your posession, and given him all the docos he needs as stated by other members above, then you should have no liability for anything he does from that point on.

then its no bodies car - tftf

[.::F[L]Y::.]

i dont get some people.

Once the money has been handed over and the new owner has taken ownership of the vehicle its his/her responsibility. As you mentioned the guy had plenty of chances to see if he could register the car in nsw. Just tell him there is nothing you can do and for him to piss off.

Btw is the car modified. could be a reason why he cant register here in nsw?

[civicVI]

in NSW when u sell a car, u give the RTA a notice of disposal slip saying that u either sold the car or got rid of it so its no longer under your registration or posession. I dont know what thw VICROADS equivalent is, but did you even do that? If so, you technically shouldn't be liable for the fine.

Also, I dont know what the circumstances on this car is, but what are the reasons the RTA gave him for it not being registerable? Does he need to get it blue slipped & inspected again before getting a pink slip? Has he even consulted the RTA as to what he should do to get it registered in NSW?

This guy seems awfully suss, but if you've done everything properly, given vicroads notice that you have sold the car and is no longer your posession, and given him all the docos he needs as stated by other members above, then you should have no liability for anything he does from that point on.


Yes when i recieved the fine of that car! i have been gave vicroads that "Vehicle registration Transfar" form to prove that car is not me! and they just say they can't change the ownership for me as that guy is carry a NSW licence!that is the reason they gave me and they say this car is nothing happen in VIC ... so they also don't know why it can't get registration in NSW!

[JasonGilholme]

Ring up vic roads would ya damn it.

[civicVI]

Y::.;1030477']i dont get some people.

Once the money has been handed over and the new owner has taken ownership of the vehicle its his/her responsibility. As you mentioned the guy had plenty of chances to see if he could register the car in nsw. Just tell him there is nothing you can do and for him to piss off.

Btw is the car modified. could be a reason why he cant register here in nsw?


Yes the car is modified! "rims,lip kit,coilover" as too low so i catch by police then i change back the original springs and get the RWC! so thats mean its all right! after that i haven't change back to coilover! after 2 months i sold the car .. and i was ask him to do a RWC for the car but he say no need because he drive the car back to NSW! he will do everythings in NSW!

[bungsai]

Yes when i recieved the fine of that car! i have been gave vicroads that "Vehicle registration Transfar" form to prove that car is not me! and they just say they can't change the ownership for me as that guy is carry a NSW licence!that is the reason they gave me and they say this car is nothing happen in VIC ... so they also don't know why it can't get registration in NSW!

that vehicle registration transfer form has a date on it, SPECIFICALLY so that from that date onwards, you will NOT receive a fine relating to the illegal use of that motor vehicle. As long as you FILLED IT IN PROPERLY, and sent YOUR copy, then VICROADS SHOULD be looking after you. I can appreciate you dont have the best english and may have some trouble dealing with VICROADS. If you need someone to give them a ring and sort things out, let me know via PM.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/bungsai/untitled.jpg

If you didnt send you side of the form to vicroads, and the seller hasnt lodged his, than you are in a bit of a pickle.

[z3lda]

you have proof of paper you got of him name and name you? it got day of you sign and he sign?

left the fine, go court and show judge paper sign.

then he must pay.

[civicVI]

thanks a lot "bungsai" ... if i need help i will PM you!

[civicVI]

you have proof of paper you got of him name and name you? it got day of you sign and he sign?

left the fine, go court and show judge paper sign.

then he must pay.


yup! i got those things!

[panda[cRx]]

also as it's out of rego, your rwc has expired and it's being transfered to his name it will need to get a new rwc regardless. i can't see any reason why he can't get it registered in nsw unless it's unroadworthy.

when i sold my bike to a guy in WA all i had to do was issue a receipt and then he had to get rwc and register it

[kid_dynamite]

Perhaps RTA isn't letting him rego it because there's an outstanding fine on it (the one your received)??

Like bungsai said, when you sell a car:
- YOU needed to have a current RWC (ie one done within 30 days of selling the car)
- YOU BOTH needed to fill out the Vehicle Registration Transfer form that bungsai posted up
- THE BUYER needed go to the RTA and sort out a new registration as the car was previously registered interstate.

[civicVI]

;1031200']also as it's out of rego, your rwc has expired and it's being transfered to his name it will need to get a new rwc regardless. i can't see any reason why he can't get it registered in nsw unless it's unroadworthy.

when i sold my bike to a guy in WA all i had to do was issue a receipt and then he had to get rwc and register it



now the problem is he can't get the registration in NSW~

and my car also bought from 2 hand ... when i bought it i also get a RWC and transfer form to VICROADS let them transfer for me!no problems! i have own it around 2 years no accident b4 i sold it!

[civicVI]

can he come back to VIC with that car and change his NSW licence to VIC licence?
and do a new RWC for that car then go to VICROADS to get the registration?

[panda[cRx]]

i think you're leaving some details out. find out WHY he can't get it rego'd man.
i don't see any reason why the owner or vehicle would be required to come back ti victoria

[civicVI]

;1031644']i think you're leaving some details out. find out WHY he can't get it rego'd man.
i don't see any reason why the owner or vehicle would be required to come back ti victoria

just ring that guy ... he say RTA's reason of that car can't registration is "written-off" in RTA's database!!!Shit how come?! i bought this car from 1 owner who is in VIC! how come RTA's database have this car's info?

as i say when i bought it i also get a RWC and transfer form to VICROADS! nothing happen of this car!

[z3lda]

take the money and flee the country haha

[aaronng]

and i have got a exceed speed limit penalty notice of that car form NSW 2 weeks ago!! thats mean he didn't change the ownership till now!
Fill up the back of the form with a statuatory declaration that you were not the driver of the car and put the buyer's details down. You need a Justice of Peace to sign the form too. Mail it to the infringement processing bureau so you don't get fined.

[civicVI]

Fill up the back of the form with a statuatory declaration that you were not the driver of the car and put the buyer's details down. You need a Justice of Peace to sign the form too. Mail it to the infringement processing bureau so you don't get fined.

thanks Buddy ... i done it already!

[philBo]

if you've got proof of sale, and a transfer of title over. shouldnt that be fine?

[civicVI]

Today just bring that "Vehicle registration Transfer" go to vicroads ask them! they check the databaces for me .... that car still under my name! but that car's registration is cancelled as more then 3 months haven't pay the fee! and i ask them how come the car still under my name as i was sold it for 5 months ago ... there answer is "the buyer haven't change the ownership" and then i ask them to change it for me but they say they can't do it!(how come) they told me ask that buyer come with me and bring his licence or passport to prove the details of that "Vehicle registration Transfer" form is match! then thay will change it for me! that is there answer !!!WTF

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

Today just bring that "Vehicle registration Transfer" go to vicroads ask them! they check the databaces for me .... that car still under my name! but that car's registration is cancelled as more then 3 months haven't pay the fee! and i ask them how come the car still under my name as i was sold it for 5 months ago ... there answer is "the buyer haven't change the ownership" and then i ask them to change it for me but they say they can't do it!(how come) they told me ask that buyer come with me and bring his licence or passport to prove the details of that "Vehicle registration Transfer" form is match! then thay will change it for me! that is there answer !!!WTF

When the buyer transfers registration he pays a transfer fee. Which is calculated with by of the ammount you sold it for plus stamp duty. Seems like he neglected to go to his road authority to advise them of the change.

[civicVI]

When the buyer transfers registration he pays a transfer fee. Which is calculated with by of the ammount you sold it for plus stamp duty. Seems like he neglected to go to his road authority to advise them of the change.



i know that but that buyer is from NSW and i am in VIC! and today i just ring that guy ask him the reason Why the car can't get the registration NSW and he say RTA say the car is "written-off" in RTA's database!! .. so i really really don't know whats going on!!

[kid_dynamite]

From how I've read it, the buyer fked up. However, there should be at a few copies of that Vehicle Rego Transfer form that you both should have filled out at the time of sale. You should have one copy, and the seller has another which he is supposed to send to VicRoads.

Did you both fill that form at the time of sale??

[civicVI]

From how I've read it, the buyer fked up. However, there should be at a few copies of that Vehicle Rego Transfer form that you both should have filled out at the time of sale. You should have one copy, and the seller has another which he is supposed to send to VicRoads.

Did you both fill that form at the time of sale??

when i sell my car to this buyer the car still have registration so i just need to fill the "Vehicle registration transfer" form! and now i keep the "PINK" one!

[kid_dynamite]

Well take the pink form to Vicroads and say 'here's my copy of the form, I filled it out correctly when I sold the car but the buyer didn't do his part. Please mark the car as no longer in my possession.'

When I sold my old car to someone interstate, the RTA told us both he had to register it in his home state within three months of buying the car.

[civicVI]

Today just bring that "Vehicle registration Transfer" go to vicroads ask them! they check the databaces for me .... that car still under my name! but that car's registration is cancelled as more then 3 months haven't pay the fee! and i ask them how come the car still under my name as i was sold it for 5 months ago ... there answer is "the buyer haven't change the ownership" and then i ask them to change it for me but they say they can't do it!(how come) they told me ask that buyer come with me and bring his licence or passport to prove the details of that "Vehicle registration Transfer" form is match! then thay will change it for me! that is there answer !!!WTF


Well take the pink form to Vicroads and say 'here's my copy of the form, I filled it out correctly when I sold the car but the buyer didn't do his part. Please mark the car as no longer in my possession.'

When I sold my old car to someone interstate, the RTA told us both he had to register it in his home state within three months of buying the car.


yup... i just did it today....i ask them to change it for me but they say they can't do it!(how come) they told me ask that buyer come with me and bring his licence or passport to prove the details of that "Vehicle registration Transfer" form is match! then thay will change it for me! that is there answer !!!WTF

[kid_dynamite]

That's nonsense. Definitely go in there, ask to speak to a manager and tell them the buyer's interstate and not it's not easy to get him there.

On the other hand, I'd probably just tell the buyer to figure out what needs to be done and tell him off for not sorting it out.

[civicVI]

Vicroads say my car is nothing wrong in VIC!
RTA say that car is "written-off" in RTA's database so can't registration in NSW!

and that guy have make a RWC in NSW workshop .... thats mean the car is find but RTA still don't let the car registration!

[czy_sol87]

Vicroads say my car is nothing wrong in VIC!
RTA say that car is "written-off" in RTA's database so can't registration in NSW!

and that guy have make a RWC in NSW workshop .... thats mean the car is find but RTA still don't let the car registration!

sounds like a rebirth buddy, maybe the "compliance" plates were originally from a write-off civic from NSW, put on a stolen car and then sold in VIC

Vic wouldnt know about it because there are no links to the databases from other states, ie vic roads and RTA in NSW

[civicVI]

thats mean the car can't register in NSW?!

what about he use his NSW licence change to VIC licence then make a RWC in VIC of that car and get register from vicroads?

[aaronng]

thats mean the car can't register in NSW?!

what about he use his NSW licence change to VIC licence then make a RWC in VIC of that car and get register from vicroads?

If he lives in NSW, he must have an NSW license. Not a Vic license. And the car has to be NSW registered. I think he will only get 2 months before he has to change back to an NSW registration and license if he did it your way.

[kid_dynamite]

If he lives in NSW, he must have an NSW license. Not a Vic license.

Depends. People who have an interstate license but living in NSW are able to purchase NSW cars and obtain NSW registration without having to change over licenses. The RTA will issue an 'identity number' to the individual (which is basically the equivalent of our drivers license number. This can happen if a person from interstate is living in NSW but unsure if they will be staying here permanently. Mate of mine did that when he bought his car.

civicVI - if you were unaware of the status of the car, it's the buyers fault really. He should have conducted a REVS check to see if the car was on the database (as having money owed on it or been written off).

He needs to figure out what type of write-off it is:
a) statutory write-off- can't be registered, only can be sold as parts
b) repairable write-off - can be fixed up.

[TypeRice]

man tell da buyer to get F@#$ed...

serriously.. if he had this problem.. shoulda contacted you no more than a few days after the purchase..

wats this 5 months later bullshit... NONSenSE !!!

[czy_sol87]

civicVI - if you were unaware of the status of the car, it's the buyers fault really. He should have conducted a REVS check to see if the car was on the database (as having money owed on it or been written off).

He needs to figure out what type of write-off it is:
a) statutory write-off- can't be registered, only can be sold as parts
b) repairable write-off - can be fixed up.

thats what im tryin to point out, even if the buyer did a REVS check on the car it would only tell them about what has happened to the car in Vic, which was nothing
im pretty sure i could be a rebirth from NSW, thats why it cant be rego there

[kid_dynamite]

thats what im tryin to point out, even if the buyer did a REVS check on the car it would only tell them about what has happened to the car in Vic, which was nothing
im pretty sure i could be a rebirth from NSW, thats why it cant be rego there

Yeah I get you. REVS check in NSW only covers vehicles written-off in NSW. Prospective buyer should have checked both the VIC (where he was buying the car from) and NSW (where he wanted to register the car) registers. His fault for not looking that up.

[ek4-guy]

speaking of a rebirth are you sure the car he is trying to register is the same one you sold him i meen a lot can happen in 5 months

[civicVI]

speaking of a rebirth are you sure the car he is trying to register is the same one you sold him i meen a lot can happen in 5 months

yes! its the same one!
but i just confused Why he can't register the car! you know i sold to him 5 months already!

[czy_sol87]

yes! its the same one!
but i just confused Why he can't register the car! you know i sold to him 5 months already!

just forget about it mate, and tell him its his fault for not doing all the necessary checks on it

its not ur problem anymore, its been too long

[civicVI]

That make me fidgets!

[Bayani]

Okay. Simple.

It's not your problem.
To be honest, it's his own fault

The next time he calls tell him:

The problems you are having with your car are none of my concern. I sold the car to you Five Months ago, and did everything I needed to do as a Seller.

You have not done what you were supposed to do as a buyer. You have allowed the registration to lapse for more than 3 months. It's now your problem to solve. The car was sold as in, and you have had no mechanical issues or complaints.

If you have a problem with it, take it to court.


Take the Vehcile Registration Transfer form with you.
All paperwork that relates to the car that you have for it.

The guy shouldn't be calling you about it. It's his problem to fix.

Don't pay a cent to him, or let him threaten you to pay-up.
It's not your problem. it's his. tell him to piss off.

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

Okay. Simple.

It's not your problem.
To be honest, it's his own fault

The next time he calls tell him:

The problems you are having with your car are none of my concern. I sold the car to you Five Months ago, and did everything I needed to do as a Seller.

You have not done what you were supposed to do as a buyer. You have allowed the registration to lapse for more than 3 months. It's now your problem to solve. The car was sold as in, and you have had no mechanical issues or complaints.

If you have a problem with it, take it to court.


Take the Vehcile Registration Transfer form with you.
All paperwork that relates to the car that you have for it.

The guy shouldn't be calling you about it. It's his problem to fix.

Don't pay a cent to him, or let him threaten you to pay-up.
It's not your problem. it's his. tell him to piss off.

just like he said. you have done all you're obligated to do.

[Leprechaun]

Now that was one messed up story... Do Not Buy From Vic!!! - Jkz!!! Who leaves it till 5 months to transfer a car... dodgy character if you ask me...

[civicVI]

ok! today i just go to vicroads with that buyer to found out the problems of this car! the staff of vicroads just told me this car in the database shown write-off can't registration anywhere! and i ask him how come? he just say he don't know(all of the answer of him is "i don't know")! at the moment i am f**king angry then i just ask him let me talk with the manager because you don't know everythings!

then i talk with the manager tell her all the story of this car!the manager told me this car in vicroads record shown is write-off. and the day of write-off is 2001 at NSW!! then i ask her how come? i have own this car for 2 years! then i just told her when i bought this car at 2004 and i have check the record from vicroads ... they say nothing happen with this car at 2004! thats mean i am also the victim.the first owner deceived me-he lied about this car!!!!and she told me they got this record from the insurance company at 2007! after that she say this car can't registration in NSW ... but in VIC is fine. but the buyer need to make a RWC and VIV certificate to let Vicroads inspect ... if all pass then this car can get registration!

did the insurance company make a mistake? and WTF with vicroads!

[whtdc2]

I can appreciate you dont have the best english and may have some trouble dealing with VICROADS. If you need someone to give them a ring and sort things out, let me know via PM.

i am so happy, we still have one good people in the world :thumbsup: