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Bayani
29-01-2007, 04:01 AM
Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!


Aim: Providing Maximum Security for your Vehicle!

Almost Every Five minutes a Car is stolen in Australia. Many get Vandalised then Dumped, but some of the older cars simply get stripped and the parts sold off.

Civics, from 80-96 are the top Honda models Stolen.

Here are a few *cheap and easy* things you can do, if you've already go your car Alarm system.

Window Car Alarm Stickers
Indicate that your car has an Alarm, but steer away from stickers that promote the use of a particular system; the less they know, the better.

Mark your Car
If you're planning on keeping your vehcile, engrave personal information, such as initals somewhere inconspicuous. Such as the Boot, or in the Hood, or on the Body of the car.

Interior Siren
If someone has broken into you car, making it unpleasent will make it not only uncomfortable, but throw them off their game.

Strobe Alarm Indicator
If you can fit one somewhere that it will show; all the better. You want as much attention brought to your car as possible!

Door Knobs
Older cars have lock-knobs that have a bulb on the end that allows users to easily unlock cars. This same design helps theives steal cars. Get yours changed if you have them!

Key Locked Petrol Cap
Although I don't see many around any more, it could definatly be worth doing. Can't go far when they can't fill it up.

Window Etching
Get the VIN Etched onto your windows. Many new cars already have this done.

Alarm Armed Indicator (Flashing LEDs)
Having a Visual Deterrance such as an LED means you don't need to be worried about having your car broken, before someone realises there is an Alarm. The Light should be visible from afar!

Don't Attach a Spare Key
Don't stick a spare key -anywhere- on your vehicle. Theives as part of a routine will check places where a key may be attached.

More Tips!
More Technical, and other Tips from members:

SiReal: Fuel cut-off switch

aimre: Take out your ECU fuse (if our car will not be used for an extended time).

BIG'O: Fuel pump cut-off switch.

EuroDude:Put a German Shepard in the car (Not sure if RSCPA would approve.. :P)

Mugeneration:
Tip 1: Take all items (CDs included) out of your car and leave the glove box open so they can see there's nothing worth stealing inside the car.
Tip 2: If you have a newer head unit that has a removable face plate, go buy a crappy arse head unit (2nd hand if needed) and take the face off of that. Place the crappy face on the deck any time you leave the car, now they think you have a dodgy sound system ;-)
Tip 3: Always turn you music down and dont rev as hard in the last few kms of your destination. Opportunistic thieves wont be drawn to your car as easily, and your neighbors will thank you.

More to be added, or just read through the thread!

aaronng
29-01-2007, 08:53 AM
Good sensible advice!

SiReal
29-01-2007, 02:28 PM
Nice one. simple yet effective. or better yet, have two cars. one sh1t one and one good one. good one is used ONLY on honda cruises so theives get confused on which car to steal - cos they're all hot, hence less risk for your own car (unless you have the hottest and loudest car) OR you're cruising to chapel/george and dont plan on getting our of your car at all. do a few laps then home time ;)

EDIT: serious note, you could install a fuel cut off switch, immobiliser (cant spell).

EuroDude
29-01-2007, 02:34 PM
"Mark your Car"

Its better to get Data Dots instead of engraving your initials. The thieves can easily see the engravement.


Also, you can make your own Immobilizer by hiding a cut switch that cuts off the fuel or ignition etc...

aimre
29-01-2007, 08:35 PM
take out ur ECU fuse, as if there gonna check that when the car dont start

BIG`O
29-01-2007, 09:11 PM
put a fuel pump switch in. not going anywhere when the switch you've secretely hidden stops the fuel flow. they get 10 metres with whats in the line then have to bail!

TRU32U
29-01-2007, 09:13 PM
^^^ lol thats a good one

TRU32U
29-01-2007, 09:16 PM
hey i like this thread...
anything i can do to stop ppl even thinking about breaking into my car even just to steal parts...

EuroDude
29-01-2007, 09:23 PM
hey i like this thread...
anything i can do to stop ppl even thinking about breaking into my car even just to steal parts...

^ put a German Shepard in the car :p

Get an alarm with a proximity sensor that makes a noise when someone gets close :cool: Bit expensive tho

destrukshn
29-01-2007, 09:26 PM
put a excessivly loud siren, in your boot and dash.

dfekm3
29-01-2007, 09:33 PM
^ put a German Shepard in the car :p

Get an alarm with a proximity sensor that makes a noise when someone gets close :cool: Bit expensive tho


This one you got to be careful of coz when ppl walk past and your car starts chirping and you park your car.. say next to a resturant and ppl walk pass all the time, its gonna annoy someone and then they mite do sumthing bad to your car.. such as key it etc...

If your going to get a sensor like this, make sure you have it adjusted properly so it does not go off everyone someone walks past, only when they put their face on your window etc....

mugeneration
29-01-2007, 09:40 PM
Fit a CO2 fire hydrant to the alarm and choke the scum to death. :-P

Tip 1: Take all items (CDs included) out of your car and leave the glove box open so they can see there's nothing worth stealing inside the car.

Tip 2: If you have a newer head unit that has a removable face plate, go buy a crappy arse head unit (2nd hand if needed) and take the face off of that. Place the crappy face on the deck any time you leave the car, now they think you have a dodgy sound system ;-)

Tip 3: Always turn you music down and dont rev as hard in the last few kms of your destination. Opportunistic thieves wont be drawn to your car as easily, and your neighbors will thank you.

ACTI0NMAN-1
29-01-2007, 09:46 PM
goatse seat covers

Bayani
29-01-2007, 09:53 PM
I'll write up a Kill Swtich DIY later :p; unless someone beats me to it.

I guess the obvious one is get an Alarm System :P

However, a German Sheperd should do the job =p ... might make the car SMELL like goatse, though. Haha.


Mugeneration -- There are systems that do this =p.. not so much CO2, but the car is rapidly filled with smoke once the car has been broken in to.

dfekm3
29-01-2007, 09:58 PM
best thing to do when parking, watch where you are parking, never in a empty car park, dark car park, no one is around.. coz even if you have an alarm, who is going to hear it..

What saved me once is my pager for my car... someone tried to break in while i was sleeping, pager went off, i bolted down and the tools were gone... i was left with a busted lock...

SiReal
29-01-2007, 10:24 PM
or yo could never wash your car, keep all the seats, suspension, wheels, body and pretty much everything stock standard. that way, theives might think you have nothing more than a daily grandma A->B, when in fact you have a K20A in there, from all the money youve saved on everything else cosmetic.

Bayani
29-01-2007, 11:20 PM
"Mark your Car"

Its better to get Data Dots instead of engraving your initials. The thieves can easily see the engravement.


Also, you can make your own Immobilizer by hiding a cut switch that cuts off the fuel or ignition etc...

I wanted to list stuff you can do at home =p LOL

Rasputin
29-01-2007, 11:25 PM
1. For DA9's, reroute the hood release cable

2. a) Shaved door handles. Looks good, and effective. i.e. Using the rear handles from a 4 door integra on the front. (They have no keyholes.) Perfect if you have remote locking.
b) In conjunction with a). What's the point if they can still use a bump key on your boot? Pull out the rod that allows the boot key to work. How often do you use it anyway? I'm betting you're all like me and pull the boot release in the cabin 90% of the time.

3. RFID kill switch. Put the receiver near the keyhole, and the matching RFID tag on your keychain. Saves you having to flip a switch, is neat, and can't be used by theives. (Though totally ineffective if thief has your keys)

4. If your alarm is already installed, and easy to see/cut wires on, make a metal bracket to surround the wires, and stop them from being pulled/cut so quickly.

5. Vigilance and common sense.

TRU32U
31-01-2007, 08:27 PM
mmmmmmmmm dammn mofo theives....
i remember someone tried breaking into my car before... GRRRRRRrrrrr

rawr
01-02-2007, 03:33 PM
best thing to do when parking, watch where you are parking, never in a empty car park, dark car park, no one is around.. coz even if you have an alarm, who is going to hear it..

What saved me once is my pager for my car... someone tried to break in while i was sleeping, pager went off, i bolted down and the tools were gone... i was left with a busted lock...


paging alarm systems are really good.. i think newer ones even tell which part of the car set the sensor off and everything (y)

Bayani
05-02-2007, 02:32 AM
... is " (y) " supposed to be boobies? Haha

But Yeah, some of the newer paging alarms tell you what part of the car was activated.

dfekm3: goes to show alarms pay off! :P

Rasputin
05-02-2007, 04:05 AM
rawr is just too used to MSN. He meant to type : thumbsup : (without the spaces)

EuroAccord13
05-02-2007, 04:39 AM
Interior Siren
If someone has broken into you car, making it unpleasent will make it not only uncomfortable, but throw them off their game.



That's what I had for my previous car, paid the extra money to purchase and install the extra siren.. Woah.. It's loud and ear bashing.....

mugeneration
05-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Yah you can get two kind of paging alarms. Theres the ones that just send a signal from the car to your pager, but they only work within a certain distance from your car. Then theres the other ones where you buy sim cards and they send you an SMS, they'll work anywhere you have phone reception. Pretty cool huh?

Yeah those sirens are insane, ive had one go off outdoors and it was painful, cant imagine how bad they are inside a car. Works well combined with interior fogger combined with a strobe light lol.

dfekm3
05-02-2007, 07:20 PM
Yah you can get two kind of paging alarms. Theres the ones that just send a signal from the car to your pager, but they only work within a certain distance from your car. Then theres the other ones where you buy sim cards and they send you an SMS, they'll work anywhere you have phone reception. Pretty cool huh?

Yeah those sirens are insane, ive had one go off outdoors and it was painful, cant imagine how bad they are inside a car. Works well combined with interior fogger combined with a strobe light lol.


The pager i got in my car is a boomerag... tells me what went off.. door, boot, bonnet, shock sensor, microwave, or some idiot knows where to tap on my window to page me.. haha..

So the pager did save me once and already has again a few mths ago... was at work, car in the car park, shock sensor went off.. ran to the car park, got there in 2 mins.. no one there.. one suss mofo 100m away.. suss as in just standing there and no he was not a security guard.

My previous ride had a boomerang but i also got an extra simcard pager with it. From my mobile i could start the car, turn the alarm off/on, call up to see who is in my car, if it is mobile or not as there is a microphone and a speaker in the car as well...

Bu then again, when your car is at home and no one is at home and your on holidays and your mobile is off.. doesnt help... why i say this.. some mofo got to my sound system... gggggRRRRRR

But in the end.. alarm systems are great to have.. also reduces your insurance premium as well...

dsp26
05-02-2007, 11:03 PM
can someone advise how i would go about installing the internal siren...

should it be connecting to the alarm unit or in parallel somehow off the engine bay siren?

Bayani
05-02-2007, 11:10 PM
Depends on the system.

Some systems detect changes in currents through the unit.

Vidospace
07-02-2007, 05:41 PM
best thing to do when parking, watch where you are parking, never in a empty car park, dark car park, no one is around.. coz even if you have an alarm, who is going to hear it..

What saved me once is my pager for my car... someone tried to break in while i was sleeping, pager went off, i bolted down and the tools were gone... i was left with a busted lock...


Another good suggestion I heard is to park between cars rather than behind them. You might be subjected to more bumper scrapes, but who can tow a car thats parked between to other cars front to back?

Bayani
08-02-2007, 11:18 AM
You mean like this?

[____] [_you_] [____] [____]
=========== Gutter =====

joyride
16-02-2007, 09:51 PM
other things to add:

smoke screen inside the car
securapost/ballast in your garage/carport
metal jacket around ignition barrel

yourfather
16-02-2007, 10:09 PM
padlock it to the bin in front of the milk bar

Bayani
18-02-2007, 12:52 AM
Do a Bean and take the steering wheel? :)

Muzz
13-03-2007, 11:26 PM
DIY security, good thread!

heres my sugestions that i also posted in another thread related to car security.

1.Steering lock, a thief is much less likly to break in and steal your car if they have to hacksaw through your steering wheel or through the lock to drive it! Excelent deterent! Rember though, the long end should be wedged between the windscrean and a pillar to be effective.

2. Using a light chain and padlock, put your gear lever in reverse, and chain the dam thing there by rapping the chain around the gear lever and down around the drivers side seat rail and locking it up. They will need to cut the chain or remove the seat to get it out of reverse.

3. Chain your wheels (through the spokes), either to each other, to a light pole, to your control arms, whatever so they cant actually drive it. However this will most likly bring more attention to your car, bringing more harm than good in the form of keying, kicking etc.

Muzz
14-03-2007, 11:19 AM
4.slide the drivers seat all the way forward, then lean it all the way forward too. Chain the head rest, to the steering wheel, so they cant sit in the drivers seat! wont really work effectivly if the headrest is removabl though.

kazam
18-03-2007, 06:26 PM
lol muzz, those were all great suggestions, but i assume we are only supposed to do these things when leaving the car outside somewhere for like a week or soemething , not everytime we leave it in the shopping centre carpark to watch a movie or something right? hehe, :p

gumbel
18-03-2007, 10:31 PM
In addition to all above...

Keep your car empty, empty means no bag, no laptop no expensive stuff or anything valuable inside the car that is visible from outside. Even coins can attract thieves.

When you park, take out one of the sparkplug cables or ecu fuse and take it with you. The car wont start without these things.

Muzz
20-03-2007, 09:52 AM
When you park, take out one of the sparkplug cables or ecu fuse and take it with you. The car wont start without these things.

Oh so simple and so effective:thumbsup:

string
22-03-2007, 04:50 PM
Even better is the main fuel relay; it's right at your knee so it's zero effort to get it and put it in your pocket. Well, that is if you don't have many interior panels :)

Bayani
24-03-2007, 01:45 AM
Doesn't anyone just fold there car up? LOL :P

silver_screen
25-03-2007, 09:09 AM
i do!! and then it goes in my pocket :D

tron07
26-03-2007, 11:28 AM
Garage and lock your car at home, take the public transport....

Muzz
26-03-2007, 02:11 PM
Garage and lock your car at home, take the public transport....

Hmmm, i dont know about that, with all these hijackings and terrist attacks these days, you cant be too safe.....

silver_screen
26-03-2007, 06:43 PM
thats a good idea.. leave the car at home.. i had my 180sx broken into.. IN MY HOUSE. so was my rx7...

leaving cars @ home isnt the greatest idea either..

SNKS2K
30-03-2007, 04:57 AM
i reckon its just not safe to leave any cars at your house. lol :p

jeffske
30-03-2007, 08:23 AM
sell your car so they cant steal it

silver_screen
31-03-2007, 09:26 AM
i agree.. never leave cars @ my place :(

riruiz_88
06-04-2007, 11:38 AM
this is one mad thread boiz. good work in it. im just curious with the removal of the ecu fuse. u's been sayin that removin the ecu fuse makes it harder for theives. wouldnt the removal of this fuse throw out the memory of the ecu, cause u would be removing/puttin it back in every time u leave the car? just a thought.

Bayani
06-04-2007, 10:16 PM
It's not advised; it's really like the suggestion to sell your car so they can't steal it, it's too extreme, lol.

Generally, ensure you don't give the temptation to steal your car to theives, and notify them it's going to be hard, will mean they'll probably not steal it.

It won't throw the memory out, it'll simply clear it and re-learn. No biggy.

lilwilliam
09-04-2007, 10:17 AM
remove ur clutch they cant get anywhere if they cant put ur car into gear.

Muzz
09-04-2007, 10:59 AM
remove ur clutch they cant get anywhere if they cant put ur car into gear.

ahhhhh, if your gonna go that far, why not just remove your engine lol.

[[d a n n y]]
09-04-2007, 03:52 PM
another good thing is the keypad actiavated alarm system featured on the Sti..
it actually works

AsH_
10-04-2007, 02:17 AM
Get some guy to stay in your car disguised as a car seat...

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4259/disguisedasacarseat7247xo2.jpg

jeffske
10-04-2007, 08:24 AM
anyone ever hear the story about the guy who had several car batteries in his boot and wired up his driver seat so if the car got stolen the thief gets a nice little "shock"
apparently the cops found out about it and said it was "illegal"

mrwillz
11-04-2007, 01:13 AM
negligence

jeffske
11-04-2007, 08:27 AM
negligence

how is it negligence? negligence is when something is unintentional.
i call it sweet justice

Bayani
11-04-2007, 07:11 PM
It's Negligence because he's leaving a live wires where anyone whom entered his car gets electricuted. If they had a heart attack and died, he'd be up for criminal negligence occasioning death.

presendence: robber whom tripped on hose and broken ankle or some crap.

Laws have been changed to prevent lawssuits like this, but the guy with the battery's would't get away with it.

Why he needed several batteries, I don't know. one would be sufficent; as it's a short burst of electricity when a trigger is activated.

mrwillz
12-04-2007, 01:18 PM
thanks for that
*now back to my law case study*

jeffske
12-04-2007, 01:27 PM
man i know where to come to when i have legal issues, you guys are very knowledgeable
they should have the anti car-jacking flame throwers like you can get in south africa

Mr_will
12-04-2007, 01:48 PM
negligence

actually, itd more likely be recklessness.

joey99
14-04-2007, 01:01 PM
for recaros, what I have done is replace the bolts with round head HEX bolts (just make sure they're high tensile ones) .. and then filled the holes up with car filler .. then painted them over with matte black paint. it looks like it's just riveted on.

Bayani
14-04-2007, 04:31 PM
actually, itd more likely be recklessness.

No, because it wasn't carelessness; there is intent to cause harm. He didn't 'leave' the wires around; he wired up for the purpose to cause injury.

jeffske
14-04-2007, 07:22 PM
wonder if u can hook up a smoke machine to the inside, so when the alarm goes off it pumps unlimited smoke (you cant steal what you cant see right) !
I know they use this technique in warehouses over in Europe

chartinael
14-04-2007, 07:44 PM
well, i would use a switch that interrupts the fuel pump feed and use an oem honda switch so that potential thieves have no clue that the switch doesn't do, what it says it does.

aftermarket switches are noticable, obvious honda switches in appropriate places are not ...

I used an unused but oem switch.

Bayani
16-04-2007, 12:23 AM
wonder if u can hook up a smoke machine to the inside, so when the alarm goes off it pumps unlimited smoke (you cant steal what you cant see right) !
I know they use this technique in warehouses over in Europe

These systems already exists for cars; as well as offices.

Mr_will
20-04-2007, 12:13 AM
No, because it wasn't carelessness; there is intent to cause harm. He didn't 'leave' the wires around; he wired up for the purpose to cause injury.

recklessness =/ carelessness.

you cant just go shifting the mens rea around like that, intent has to be more specific

Bayani
20-04-2007, 12:45 AM
recklessness =/ carelessness.

you cant just go shifting the mens rea around like that, intent has to be more specific

I didn't mean that Recklessness was the same as carelessness; what was meant was: that the aspect of carlessness OF BEING reckless was not present.

The individual has created a device for the sole purpose of causing harm.
He was not wiring a device; and decided to leave the wires where the lay to be continued later (thus carelessness). He completed the device for it's intended purpose - to harm.

Dell99
20-04-2007, 01:01 AM
omg i can't believe that no one has mentioned about the advertisement about the monkey that stays in the boot and hits the thief if they try to steal it. LOL :D

If someone can find that video on YouTube it would be that much more sweet, thus u guys know what i am talkin abt

terryansimon
20-04-2007, 12:46 PM
omg i can't believe that no one has mentioned about the advertisement about the monkey that stays in the boot and hits the thief if they try to steal it. LOL :D

If someone can find that video on YouTube it would be that much more sweet, thus u guys know what i am talkin abt
how nice. this is my first post in this forum. (=

anyways, I believe you were talking about this video?

Trunk Monkey clip on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_b67AsM8FM&mode=related&search=)

lazymofo
20-04-2007, 02:45 PM
you mean this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUxpB9K9tQo

Muzz
21-04-2007, 01:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ1AZ9BawIA&mode=related&search=

Joel The Mole
27-05-2007, 05:42 PM
does anyone know where to source one of the fuel line switches??

string
27-05-2007, 06:42 PM
Jaycar :D

aznsiko
20-09-2007, 11:56 PM
Smart

wilzee
21-09-2007, 04:30 PM
Put a set of flame throwers underneath the driver and passenger doors and burn the mofos while they try to get in the car! Now that will Deter theives!

Muzz
04-10-2007, 12:16 AM
Its great that everyones putting in their own input:thumbsup:

As somone mentioned with his recaros, using uncommon bolts/nuts, like allen key type fasteners and torx fasteners will make stealing things impossible without the right tools.

Use these less common fasteners to bolt in your soundsystem/amps/seats/etc and everything valuable that can be removed quickly otherwise.

A thief may very well be carrying a screw driver or shifter, but i doubt he would be carrying a set of allen keys or torx bits. Plus fancy bolts and fasteners look great if there visiable!

D4rk4n63l
04-10-2007, 07:30 AM
more info on these type of security bolts http://www.endeavourtools.com.au/online_catalogue/fastening_solutions/security_fasteners/security_screws

Bayani
15-07-2012, 09:47 AM
Five year-old thread.
Updated it to include some of the early responders to the thread.

So.. Resurrected. ;)

noisuf
22-07-2012, 09:20 PM
Great advice. It's especially important considering how easy it is to steal a car irrespective of alarm system. So easy to pop up onto quick jacks and roll up a tray.

Something that nightmares are made of. ;)

Dyln.bxtr
16-06-2014, 12:48 PM
Main relay is a pretty good idea actually. I might start trying that one.