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wynode
15-06-2004, 07:47 PM
Found these on the Whiteline (http://www.whiteline.com.au/default.asp?page=/fittingsheets.htm) site.

They are pretty rough, but will give you a good idea of how to use their kits.

1. Honda Civic/Integra rear swaybar (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/236_BHR36.pdf)
2. Honda Civic EG-EH. Sway bar mounting bracket kits (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/temp/Z233_KBR29.pdf)
3. Honda Integra DC2-4 (excl. Type’R) and Honda Civic EG-EH. Sway bar mounting bracket kits (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/Z233_KBR28.pdf)
4. Honda Civic Integra front camber kit (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/158_KCA301.pdf)
5. Honda/Acura Civic, Integra, CR-V 2001-on. Rear camber adjustment (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/231_KCA368.pdf)
6. Honda Civic Integra rear camber adjust kit (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/223_KCA370.pdf)
7. Honda Civic 1996-2000 EJ-EK Camber & Caster Kit (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/instructs/232_KCA371.pdf)

Gives you a good idea on what he kits look like.

SIKCVC
15-06-2004, 08:00 PM
i dont get how the camber kit works... possitive camber means top is pulled towards the center of the car doesn't it? or have i got it the wrong way round.

alan
15-06-2004, 08:03 PM
other way round isn't it
positive camber is top pushed out and bottom tucked in, while negative is bottom out and top in (drift stylez)...

SIKCVC
15-06-2004, 09:07 PM
why would you want possitive? all the weight goes onto the oposite rear wheel when you exit a corner, surly you'd want as much grip as possible on this wheel as apose to the others (on a percentage scale)

alan
15-06-2004, 11:18 PM
rite-on... :thumbsup:
that's y ppl use negative camber for better handling (use the entire contact patch when the sidewalls flex during cornering)

but u would use positive camber to correct the excessive negative camber that the car would be running when it was lowered

wynode
15-06-2004, 11:34 PM
that's y ppl use negative camber for better handling (use the entire contact patch when the sidewalls flex during cornering)


But that's only for the inside wheel.

Best way to give negative camber to BOTH wheels is by running more castor. (at the front wheels i'm talking about)

SIKCVC
15-06-2004, 11:37 PM
castor being the toe adjustment, correct?

speedracr
15-06-2004, 11:40 PM
no toe is different. People dial in more positive castor as it can increase dynamic camber

alan
15-06-2004, 11:41 PM
toe is like angling ur tyres more inwards or outwards when u look from top down isn't it???

castor is kinda like moving the wheels more forward or backward when from the side (kinda like wheelbase length)

:?: ... can't remember
(refer to gran turismo... :D )

wynode
15-06-2004, 11:43 PM
toe is like angling ur tyres more inwards or outwards when u look from top down isn't it???

That is correct



castor is kinda like moving the wheels more forward or backward when from the side (kinda like wheelbase length)


Kind of.

Basically increasing your castor (positive) reffers to changing the axis of rotation (steering) by pushing the lowe part of the axis forward.

McChook did a write up on PA a while back so maybe ask him to post that in the tech section :)

vincent
25-08-2005, 06:49 PM
Honda/Acura Civic, Integra, CR-V 2001-on. Rear camber adjustment

Just sharing some thoughts for that kit.

I don't like the bushings for camber adjustment, I rather the VISION upper arm, The maximum you can achieve according to whiteline is +/- .75 of a degree, The vision upper arm is +/- 3.5 of a degree. The VISION upper arm will keep the alignment settings much accurately than the bushing, The bushings will lose it after a few hard drives and is very hard to achieve -.75 max where the upper arm is adjusted by shortening the arm.

vincent
25-08-2005, 06:59 PM
Check this website if they have an alternative method of camber adjustment rather than a bushing

Vision - http://www.technicasport.co.jp/eng/kit.htm

PLYBOY
26-08-2005, 06:01 AM
yeh i dont like that kit aswell, its easier to get the whole upper arm replcaed like skunk2 ones.. or omni power ones.. they have a 3.5 degrees adjustment, when i slammed my car i was running -3 in the fron, and -2 in the rear.. where it was very good at the track days, it ate the insade of my tures out so fast aye..

dsp26
22-04-2008, 08:44 AM
I just want to add that those adjustable camber bolts that replace the ones on the forks are shit for street driving. Only recommend them for people who track often and actually get their sussy dialled in specifically.

Mine have come undone twice now and because the bolts freely move your car steers itself on the slightest bump.. VERY noticable and dangerous in the wet... and only the rear one of the two in my right front got undone...