Operation Engine Makeover

[SLOWEGG]

Thats what he said about mine and my friend's car when he was in brisbane.

[turtleEK1]

what kind of idle problems?

stab in the dark here... but if your running hondata, obviously running OBD1...

FITV have anything to do with it? because y4 throttle bodies don't have one...

[SLOWEGG]

Yes both running hondata OBD1. Idles fine but once it awhile the idle will drop and almost stall then will come back up.

[90-POV]

happens every now and then after car is warm

[Sexc86]

try playing around with your throttle body screw ?

[Aza]

yeah no i have, but i have now been informed that the Y4 and Y8 throttle bodys ARE different, so i am using the wrong throttle body formy engine.... that is probable half my problem ha. so i will be replacing it this week and hopefully that will fix the problem.

other then that the car is running VERY strong, very happy with how its running now, sounds very healthy and should be even better with the new throttle body.

[kraiye]

hey Aza, whats the difference between the y4 & y8 TB's ?
why does it effect the engine so much ?

[turtleEK1]

do you know which sensor was giving you the trouble? i recall the y8 and y4 IACVs being different... could that be whats happening? how come you put the y4 tb on anyway? the y8 motor you bought not come with a tb?

[ekslut]

Dont post unless you have something positive to contribute to this thread. If you see something thats irrelevant or not helping then report it, dont post back in retaliation

[kraiye]

hey fishman, why don't you advise us WHY the TB differences wouldn't cause a problem and what exactly these differences are?
no offecnce, i'm just really interested as i'm looking into a minime

[Aza]

yeah didnt come with a y8 tb so i used the y4

[Aza]

well probable shouldnt of done that but :D

haha well i hadnt heard the bov at all since i put the new engine in, even when it was spooling abit (which u could hear). so i thought it was strange.... so i have put a different bov on and i could hear it all the time like only just which is more then the old one. Sooooo i decided to acturlly let it spool up abit again and see if it does the whole shoot up to high revs after spooling. and well...... it didnt, acturlly it spooled up fine, changed gear, bov went off (unlike last time) and car still ran healthy, did it a few times so yeah im thinking mayb the old bov wasnt working cuasing my intake to pressure up making the engine run crap hole after spooling. im not sure if theres any tech in there, can someone varify if that might of been what was happening? either way for some reason with the new bov just then i could spool it fine (hehe felt good ;))

[Joel The Mole]

how long till this bad boy is tuned???

wil it be making an appearence at Gold Coast Auto Salon?????

[Aza]

it will be in the car park, i was meant to be showing but i just couldnt justify the entry fee. but if u want to see the car it will be down there saturday

[Joel The Mole]

^ok sweet.

hows the tunig coming along??

[Aza]

dont no, only dave knows that.... need to contact him again

[kraiye]

dont tune it yet... i wont know what to do with my time when this thread ends
:p

[Aza]

sorry mate. tune at this stage is set for next weekend :D

car is driving great, handles boost great, very healthy engine/setup! loving it :)

but final tune is next weekend, then i will have dyno figures and few weeks after 1/4 times ;)

STAYED TUNED!!

[Centurius]

numbers numbers numbers!!!

how does it feel?

[Aza]

i dont no but dave never came up :S wasnt answered his phone end of last week either????

on the weekend installed a new bov after my other cheap one blew off AGAIN. i have redone the whole mounting of it if it blows off now then theres something wrong lol. this is a decent bov this time to. but yeah fixed that up, i knew how the last guy did the bov mount wasnt the best, i thought it would hold though but under boost it just isnt good enough. so yeah now has a nice NEW bov. also while i was doing shit i was looking at where my oil leak was coming from..... haha pissing out of the turbo.... and yesterday she was abit smokey... turbo in for rebuild this week :p spose thats what u get taking a chance on a second hand turbo. so year turbo getting re built. but from what i have felt.... it feels good ;) boost is my drug. still i just want everything finished, spewing about the turbo, but honestly when the turbo is rebuilt it means every part of the system is new or practically new.

still dave..... whats going down. answer ur phone please :(

[040501912]

while u rebuilt ur TURBO, highflow it too , CMOON !! :p

do it all at once and tune it !! wonder what power figures u got .. :)

[Muzz]

Hey aza, how are ya bud.

Were you running hondata with your previous d16y4, or did you just start using hondata after swapping engines?
If you were running it on the d16y4, i take it you had to do some custom wiring for the obd1 ecu.

When you swapped to the d16y8, did you still run the harness from your d16y4 or did you pull it out and run the d16y8 harness?

Also, just wondering, is your swap newer than your car? Ive heard that the engine needs to be of equal age or newer to be legal, is this true for us QLDers?

Or is it that the engine must be availiable in other models of that year, for example, an engine made in 1996 swapped into a 1998 car is legal because you can find that particular engine in cars all the way up to the year 2000, even though the actual engine is older than the car??

Cheers mate:thumbsup:

[kraiye]

is using a y8 harness

[turtleEK1]

muzz... you have to swap a motor that is NEWER than the chassis...

eg... you have a 96 chassis... has to be a 96+ motor... to be legel ofcourse

[Eclipsor]

muzz... you have to swap a motor that is newer than the chassis...

eg... you have a 96 chassis... has to be a 96+ motor... to be legel ofcourse

typo dave. ;P

[Muzz]

muzz... you have to swap a motor that is older than the chassis...

eg... you have a 96 chassis... has to be a 96+ motor... to be legel ofcourse

Cheers:)
Saw ya racing at the honda vs nissan track day a while back, good shit:thumbsup:

[turtleEK1]

*SLAPS MYSELF*...

Thanks Cam... lol

[Aza]

all oil leaks....... FIXED :D

[turtleEK1]

any idea how long now till running hard?

[Aza]

nope dave seems like a busy man. its driving good as it is with the base map and boosting fine. just idling isnt good when engine is fully warmed and dave says that the tune will get rid of that so yeah pretty much have to sit back and wait, o well its so much funner to drive now. i'm going to send him another call this arvo see if he can give me a final date

[JasonGilholme]

cool so we'll see this puppy at the cruise yeah?!?!

nice! :)

[Aza]

sure will, haha excuse the untune idle when its warmed up :p it drives fine as u'll see. but it will be there

[Sexc86]

awsome work mate! hope all your hard work has paid off for ya!

[Muzz]

cool so we'll see this puppy at the cruise yeah?!?!

nice! :)

Cruise?
When/were, im good as there:thumbsup:

[Aza]

look in upcoming events, hes talking about the honda cruise on the 8th of july.

[JasonGilholme]

Cruise?
When/were, im good as there:thumbsup:

Get with the times man! :p:p

[aimre]

muzz... you have to swap a motor that is NEWER than the chassis...

eg... you have a 96 chassis... has to be a 96+ motor... to be legel ofcourse


not really, you need emission controls that motor had for the yr your chassis was built

[FR33K]

muzz... you have to swap a motor that is NEWER than the chassis...

eg... you have a 96 chassis... has to be a 96+ motor... to be legel ofcourse

this has always been the rumour but i dont see how its true.. when i got my engine number changed they didnt even check that..

[Aza]

i honestly dont no the rules, but i dont think they will have any problems with mine

[zel05]

QLD and NSW engine change regulations may be different...But what TurtleEK1 has said re: engine age/ shell age is 100% correct when talking about legalities in QLD.

[Aza]

either way mine falls under both categories

[Aza]

im bored, dam i want my car tuned so bad :( sucks, everything is fine with it, drives great, takes boost heaps well and it defantly alot faster then before. why o why cant it just be tuned. fun as to drive though only 2 hrs and 20 min till i get to drive it again :D

i dunno been trying to get in contact with dave havnt been getting through.

[bubs]

Come on, get the damn thing tuned. You owe me a drive :thumbsup:

[Angie]

Come on, get the damn thing tuned. You owe me a drive :thumbsup:

He owes me one as well, and better get some semi slick radials for jambo man, at least for the front, oh and btw sss will still munch it ha :D

[Sexc86]

Hondata James tuneing for the win !

[Aza]

ha bud i could take u for a spin in it already, it will be fun enough for ya, and cory.... welll u just have to wait. o well ganna have to sort something out soon

[Denchy]

I will keep my eye out for the lil orange hatch at jambo.... just racing or showing as well?

oh and 300th post :p

[Aza]

just racing at this stage

[Aza]

bored again....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/eb009.jpg

think i may take pics of the new bov tonight....

pretty sure im ganna do rocker cover this weekend if i have the effort :D

[Aza]

just got an email from dave about the tune :D numbers shouldnt be far off :D all im ganna say is dam why cant honda cruise be the following week

[Angie]

Numbers??? And also wheres some pics of the new BOV??

[Aza]

i did take a pic i just cbf posting it up, its also got red honda badges now to instead of the acura ones. and tune is set for next wed bro. i think i need a new boost guage, haha this one is rooted

[Aza]

wheel didnt fall off it was still attached to the car :p and no that wont be starting to get repaired till end of this month, im fixing up every little thing in the car then respraying, so im just waiting for the money to do it. o well atm i dont really care im just enjoying the new engine. and this way i dont have to worry when i go down the quater. when its re sprayed and back in show condition i might not be soo keen...

[Angie]

Man that was crap being in the car when that happened. I want some pics posted of new badges and BOV. Kthxbi

[Aza]

yea dude wasnt good, ha did good not to damage the panels,.... till we tried to move it again (damage happened when we were getting it off the road, not when it first happened and we pulled over) o well this shit happens, and yea yea, im washing it tonight i will get pics

[Muzz]

Awsome man, will be a real sweet car when your all done! What colour you doing for the respray or are you going to redo the orange?

[Aza]

yeah redoing the orange, put my tax return in yesterday, with the money it says i will get back it will be enough to fix damage and spray, so will be starting it real soon :D might as well get into it while i have the motivation no reason waiting :D so yeah will probable start that the weekend after its tuned or the weekend after, should only take 2 weekends to do, one weekend fixing up panels, next weekend prep and paint :)

[Angie]

Then comes some good wheels, hektic stezza and full retrim?

[Aza]

nope..... lol then comes either daily driver or move the fock out of home :D

i dont want a stezza, one i have is good enough, i may do slight triming in interior, and well yes i want new wheels....

but for now after respray i will be happy where it is and if i dont want it looking like a ricer i will just chuck on full sick black steelies

[JasonGilholme]

and change the colour :p :thumbsup:

[Aza]

nuah i love the colour.... even if u dont :p

[JasonGilholme]

lol I don't mind the colour on a show car. Couldn't imagine it on a street/race/JDM style yO! car.

[Angie]

Put a sub in it, we ran the rca lead remember. Get some bass

[Aza]

lol that rca lead is shitting me off cuase now i have the wire harness in the kick panel to, lol very crowded in there so it dont seat that great

[Sexc86]

yo azza! is there anyway to unplug / undo the flange from your wastegate that plumbs into your exhaust? if so do it for the drags! ahha makes your car sound like a JET !!

[Aza]

ok got some pics finally

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready002.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready006.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready007.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready008.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready011.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready003.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/cruiseready004.jpg

[Micko]

looking good meng :P :thumbsup:

[Sexc86]

me thinks some angle eyes and some ek Series 2 tail lights, Red and Frosted clear (not Red and orange)

[[SDCTVE]]

clear indicators y0!

[kraiye]

i'd do rims and tail lights and thats about it
=)

[Klayemore]

New rims brother. buy mine ;)

[Angie]

Looks good, I would do new rims, black bonnet and some descent suspension then it will def be show with go

[JHMDA9]

I'd fix that little smoke issue..............have you sorted it out yet? Excess oil?

[Aza]

yeah all sorted, gets tuned tommorow.

[Aza]

haha i still dont think a black bonnet would suit the car, new rims defantly though either some nice white racing rims or black with a chrome lip.

if someone wants to buy these ones.... comon hit me up i need cash :D

[PopadocD15B4]

Man ur up urself take some advice from the pro's it may just help down the road cause yur obviously yung n niave like me and will push ur car hard n what these mofo's r suggestin will make ur mincer F!@#$%& reliable! dig it?:thumbsup:

[Muzz]

How about some examples of where aza's "all talk" or "up himself" or "ignoring the pro's".....

GTFO, its simple.

[[SDCTVE]]

no black bonnet!... just get some lights n some rims happening n ur set

[Sexc86]

nah man not black bonnet, cf maybe?

[kraiye]

^^^
agreed
f black unless its cf ;)

PopadocD15B4: wtf??? what, do you mean his car will be an unreliable POS if he doesnt have a black bonnet?
lol

[kraiye]

btw, is it tuned yet aza?

[Aza]

yea its tuned, drives so well feels like a normal car again. it made 145hpatw at 6 psi with 170wtq. will be interesting to see how it goes down the quater as is. at this stage im going to keep it on 6 psi. feels way better to drive though and still got a fair bit of get up and go. o well 1/4 time will be interesting. honestly though fully over the whole thing which is why atm im not interested in boosting it more im just happy to have it driving nice and reliable and i dont want to spend anymore on boost controller. still have to thank all the people who have helped me out, dynodave and barefoot mainly, also james at hondatech has been good. (these are the pros that apparently i dont listen to according to popadoc) still for the price i paid for the engine conversion and turbo its a nice package and it will give me a little bit of fun. in other words im happy so i dont care if you arnt :D ps as for reliablitity popadoc. one drive in this thing would change ur might, drives like a bought one :)

[Muzz]

Awsome to hear man, congratulations!

[DLO01]

Well done Az. Top marks for all the effort you have put in.

Aza mate, who cares what others think. We live in a world of impressing others. Just keep happy the person that really counts. :thumbsup:

[fishman]

108kw. I think reality has really taken place now, and there goes all the big claims of figures and timeslips. Where is Lyle Style when you need him, i wish the "power of D-series turbo" thread was still around.

Everyone should spend some time and read the thread and reflect.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67920

[Muzz]

If he wanted, with more tuning he could tune it for, and run higher boost. Remember hes only running 6 psi atm.

So much hatred for others cars, learn to appreciate even if shits not to your taste, no ones building there cars to keep fishman happy lol.
If you are truly discusted by somones car, great, laugh to yourself about it. No need to go hating, thats the job of a wanker, are you a wanker??

BTW what do you drive, it must be sick, to be hatin so much on so many peoples cars.

[fishman]

yeah yeah yeah, i've heard it all before. Facts are facts and you guys have a hard time understanding it. I wasn't having a go at him, but just showing there is a big difference between reading something online from the US and acutally doing it yourself.

Just annoying to see guys like Lyle posting up stupid shit to confuse kids. Just look through that thread on what i wrote and see if the statements were true or not. And sometimes the truth hurts.

[Aza]

yea difference between mine and cars from the us. about 4-6 psi and mayb use a more expensive turbo. as i said i run no boost controller so i cant affect how much boost its running atm. but hey down the track if i want more power out of it its not that hard to put one on. either way im still ganna take it down the quater on 6 psi and have some fun. and from what fishman tells me his car is nothing to be proud of. i was acturlly waiting for his reply in her cuase i knew it would be some bullshit. wheres ur time slip y0?

fact still remains, basic turbo kit with no boost controller = nearly double the stock power of a D16

ps i have seen a fair few B series on a dyno and none of them with basic mods got more then 108....

so comes back to for 5000 whats better, turbo what u got of do a conversion then some basic mods...

remember its alot easier now for me to gain power then a B series NA. for a turbo set up to gain more power u really just have to wind up boost y0 and make sure the care can still handle it reliable

[JasonGilholme]

ps i have seen a fair few B series on a dyno and none of them with basic mods got more then 108....

Most, NA b16 with intake and/or exhaust were pullin that figure at the dyno day at mercury.

Stock engine cars were pullin about 92 - 95 (ie my car and others).

Either way, your car is built for you and if thats the way you want it then thats the way it will be. Don't worry about pleasing the haters.

If i was tryin to please the haters i'd have an EG civic instead of an EG crx lol.

all the quarter times will be interesting. Can't wait to see them all come in :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Aza]

i no some pulled close to it, mickos pulled a 104 from memory and that b series has abit done to it. either way like i said im happy. drives so nicely, hitting boost feels good :D

[JasonGilholme]

yeah, dunno what mickos got. (cf intake with some sort of exhaust mod? Standard headers still tho afaik)

Darryl pulled 110 i think with intake, headers and exhaust only.

[Aza]

o well there totally different setups u cant really compare, they will perform different even if they have similar out puts

[JasonGilholme]

o well there totally different setups u cant really compare, they will perform different even if they have similar out puts

they both got b16's and they're both near stock (I/H/E isn't "lots of work")

Make sure if you all go down to the strip that theres a video cam there. We all love the vids. :thumbsup:

[Aza]

since when was mine a B16?

[DynoDave]

Aza like I said to you yesterday who cares what you own or modify its yours and I had fun helping you with your project :thumbsup:
Regards Dyno Dave

[turtleEK1]

Nice work aza!!! Good figure from the set up! Considering it only sounds like a 'safe' tune of 6 psi...

lol... i give it a month and you'll want to wind the boost up...

ignore the hating... like boys have said... build it how you want it...

[90-POV]

good figures for a deries turbo:thumbsup:
should take it out 2nite aza, ... show those NA hondas wat its all about!!!

[Aza]

haha thanks for the offer mate, but tonight i am forced to go to fitzys as one of my friends moves back to belgium on sat so will never see her again. so yeah going out with her one last time tonight. mind u, there is always next week.... or the week after ;) wouldnt mind having abit of fun :D

[Sexc86]

well done champ! still havnt seen her go in the flesh .... catch up soon :)

[kraiye]

good figures for a deries turbo:thumbsup:
should take it out 2nite aza, ... show those NA hondas wat its all about!!!
just cuz u got a monster under the bonnet :p

good stuff az, must feel dam good to finally see it at this stage.

btw: lyle, fix up th elink in your sig :thumbsup:

[Aza]

yeah after being behind 90 pov leaving 101 garage... lol i might as well stick it in reverse lining up vs it :D nuah awesome stuff jimmy. o well i always knew i wasnt ganna be able to touch urs :D turbo b > turbo d :p o well hope u guys had fun last night anyway ;) i know i did.... feeling it this morning. im lost now i dont no where to go from here :( this thread has been a part of ozhonda for so long :p

only thing left for this thread is some quater times...

[DLO01]

Come on man, theres always something to do on the car. :D

Unless you sell the car.

[JasonGilholme]

since when was mine a B16?

nah i was talkin bout the difference between darryls and mickos.

1/4 times yO! Make sure you post when everyone is goin out cause i'm sure there will be lots of people who wanna see 90POV, DLO01 and your one man! :thumbsup:

[Aza]

Come on man, theres always something to do on the car. :D

Unless you sell the car.


im talking engine wise :p still waiting for tax to come back then i can start my operation paint make over thread :p :cool:

[DLO01]

im talking engine wise :p still waiting for tax to come back then i can start my operation paint make over thread :p :cool:

Ha ha, nice. :cool:

[Weq]

What are the final spec's of this car??

I see XS power kit and skyline t3?

108kw is par with a y4 and 6psi. Decent power. run another 6psi and u'll be munching the k20 asses of all the haters.

[Aza]

current specs...

D16Y8 Engine
Hondata S100
T28 Turbo (straight off an RB20DET)
D16Y4 Gearbox
Motec 3 Bar Map Sensor
Excedy "Sports Tuff Clutch"
550cc RC Injectors
Hybrid 600x300x76 FMIC
GFB Blow Off Valve
XS Power Wastegate
XS Power Radiator
XS Power Turbo Manifold
Megan Racing 3" "Turbo" Muffler
XForce 3" Highflow Cat
Custom made 2.5" Dump Pipe
Custom bent 3" Exhuast

[Aza]

i think the most boost i would be willing to put in it would be 8 to 9. which would defantly give it a bigger kick. but honestly no desire to boost it more atm. drives so nice defantly a perfect setup for a daily driver.

so basic but just works and performs great. and no offense taken riceball, love that car of urs!

[Angie]

The skyline turbo is designed to run efficient at a higher psi, put it up dude, the turbo has a lot left in it, its just the engine itself.

[SLOWEGG]

You wouldnt want to boost it up too much with a ceramic turbo.

[Angie]

You wouldnt want to boost it up too much with a ceramic turbo.


but skylines run at 7psi stock, so would think the turbo would run better around the 10 mark at least, and we aint talking crazy boost like 1 bar :p

[Sexc86]

yeh mate... a s13 i owned last year had a stock standard rb20 with standard turbo and we ran it on 12psi... driven daily :) no probs at all. wouldnt put it any higher though

[Aza]

i know the turbo can handle more..... look at chris's bmw with the rb20det, stock turbo running 15psi.... **** it flies now. as i said right now im happy, im sure later on down the track the speed wont be enough but for now my sights are set on different things. got 2 months left and the car needs a respray and a few other things for autosalon.... that what my eyes are set on, speed is great but its not everything, whats the point in having a fast car if it looks like a shit box. so yea atm.... all money going to respray and the other few things for salon. when i do get a boost controller i want a dual stage one so i can run 6 psi most of the time... o well for now 6psi is all it has u guys are just ganna have to accept it till i build my money back up... boost controller i want isnt cheap :D. i do have a manual boost controller in the shed but dont want to use that one.

[Angie]

What boost controller you want? Greddy profec B spec 2??

[[SDCTVE]]

Aza has ur engine been rebuilt? pistons, rods..etc? if not i dont recommend you run more then 8 psi for the sake of the life of the engine...

[Aza]

mate its not how much boost u run its the power u make with that boost. as long as i dont go well over 200hp (250hp max) im not even ganna think about doing internals. like i said i want a dual stage boost controller so i would only be running that for short periods rest of the time i will be back on my 145hp

[Weq]

You're Dreaming. His car can only handle the 6psi because thats whats effiecient for it. Sure he can run another 6psi, but for how long and how much extra power. What makes you think by boosting another 6psi on the D series will munch a k20?

I'm not putting your car down Aza. You put your own hard work and money into it. As long as you enjoy it, nothing else matters:thumbsup: However, reality kicks in and power is alot harder to gain than you really think it is. Numbers don't mean shit, We just gotta wait for the timeslips.

DOnt try and tell me whats going on.

His car can take 12psi, no problems. The Skyline T3 48/63 (NOT T28??? wtf) is small but efficent.

Area under the curve. Have u seen his dyno plot? Peak power at 5500rpm, and a fat torque curve that peaks at 4500rpm. Peak power is such a narrow minded view.

You do not understand. Aza can make alot more HP. He chooses not to. Dont make mass generlisations just because Aza is scared.

[barefootbonzai]

yeah yeah, just like mr cyanide who is running 9 or 10 psi in a light ass crx with his big claims to beat all NA cars, who got munched by a k20 eg sedan in full trim, lmao, it was so slow it didn't even look like he was racing.

[JasonGilholme]

hahah all these people saying that they can't win cause they've got full interior hahaha.

Its like people with turbo's saying they can't win cause they need a few more PSI or a retune lol.

[VTi-RT]

To give you guys some more examples, i turbocharged my GF's D16Y8. 10psi of boost from a modded T28 (bigger turbines) stock internals. we produced 158kw to the wheels and she drove it for well over 6months as a daily driver with no problems (I then decided to all out and do a rebuild for more power).

The only thing that i would recommend is that you buy the ARP headstuds for the engine as through my research, D16Y head bolts tend to stretch under boost (apparently a common problem in the States). Prime symptoms for this are your radiator spewing fluid out and overheating.

[Muzz]

yeah yeah, just like mr cyanide who is running 9 or 10 psi in a light ass crx with his big claims to beat all NA cars, who got munched by a k20 eg sedan in full trim, lmao, it was so slow it didn't even look like he was racing.

Maby ive missed somthing, but whats that got to do with anything, who are you talking to?

[Aza]

lol who says anything about being scared. i CANNOT run anymore boost as the car sits... no boost controller, hell don't u guys understand that haha. no money for the one i want either and right now its not that important. hell u guys fight like girls over things that dont even mean shit. honestly, who cares how much boost u run or how much power u put out, or how fast ur car can do a quater. all that matters is that u are happy with ur setup and it suits ur needs. u dont need to impress anyone else or beat anyone else. its all just fun its not like we are professional racers or anything. i would really appreciate if my thread didnt turn into some girly bitchy whing fight.

[riceball]

DOnt try and tell me whats going on.

His car can take 12psi, no problems. The Skyline T3 48/63 (NOT T28??? wtf) is small but efficent.

Area under the curve. Have u seen his dyno plot? Peak power at 5500rpm, and a fat torque curve that peaks at 4500rpm. Peak power is such a narrow minded view.

You do not understand. Aza can make alot more HP. He chooses not to. Dont make mass generlisations just because Aza is scared.

Was I talking about how much boost he can and can't run? No. I said that the amount of boost he is currently running is effecient for his engine and won't send it to disney land. Sure he can run more boost if he feels like it.


like i said i want a dual stage boost controller so i would only be running that for short periods rest of the time i will be back on my 145hp

Not scared. Smart. Running a sufficient amount of boost to give him some giggles and a little extra power if wanted.


hahah all these people saying that they can't win cause they've got full interior hahaha.

Its like people with turbo's saying they can't win cause they need a few more PSI or a retune lol.

We never said we didn't win. We said we won even with full interior, a lil less weight and it would of been a little bit more of a distance between the cars.


To give you guys some more examples, i turbocharged my GF's D16Y8. 10psi of boost from a modded T28 (bigger turbines) stock internals. we produced 158kw to the wheels and she drove it for well over 6months as a daily driver with no problems (I then decided to all out and do a rebuild for more power).

The only thing that i would recommend is that you buy the ARP headstuds for the engine as through my research, D16Y head bolts tend to stretch under boost (apparently a common problem in the States). Prime symptoms for this are your radiator spewing fluid out and overheating.

Well over 6 months? If i boosted my car i would expect it to run for a longer period than 6 months. I'm not having a go at you. A full rebuild lets you run more boost and also increases the engines reliability, I'm guessing thats why you did it instead of leaving it internally stock.

[JasonGilholme]

We never said we didn't win. We said we won even with full interior, a lil less weight and it would of been a little bit more of a distance between the cars.

I don't doubt that at all.

I like it when people run their car on the strip the way they do on the street. I hate it when people complain about having full interior and not being able to win because of it.

If you got full interior thats your own fault lol. Stop bitchin about it haha (not directed at you riceball, directed to all the people that have complained in the thread :thumbsup:)

[Weq]

yeah yeah, just like mr cyanide who is running 9 or 10 psi in a light ass crx with his big claims to beat all NA cars, who got munched by a k20 eg sedan in full trim, lmao, it was so slow it didn't even look like he was racing.

Dude, dont compare a stock 30yr old engine with a small turbo on it on low boost, to a 11k swap.

If u want apples with apples, chuck atleast 5k on built internals and a bigger turbo on 18psi. Now we maybe 60% of the $ invested, and more power then your pussy ass could handle.

Stay NA, i dont give a crap. I understand your background. you cant drive as it is (wrote off your first car), let alone with power behind the front wheels. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18372&page=14) Next time you are over sucking on DynoDave's teet, ask him what was blowing off the rollers at 8krpm. Aint no 5yr old dohc 2.0, thats for sure.

[riceball]

Dude, dont compare a stock 30yr old engine with a small turbo on it on low boost, to a 11k swap.

If u want apples with apples, chuck atleast 5k on built internals and a bigger turbo on 18psi. Now we maybe 60% of the $ invested, and more power then your pussy ass could handle.

Stay NA, i dont give a crap. I understand your background. you cant drive as it is (wrote off your first car), let alone with power behind the front wheels. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18372&page=14) Next time you are over sucking on DynoDave's teet, ask him what was blowing off the rollers at 8krpm. Aint no 5yr old dohc 2.0, thats for sure.

Lol what a fag. How can you bring up a crash and say that someone can't drive? I see F1 drivers, Rally and track drivers crash many times. ****en loser.

[barefootbonzai]

lmao, you f ucken loser. So what, i'm man enough to say i crash, happens to the best of us. Don't see me hiding or crying about it. Just cause you're too were to scared to drive your car hard or even take it down the 1/4, ain't my fault your a pussy.

[LVNIT]

lmao, you f ucken loser. So what, i'm man enough to say i crash, happens to the best of us. Don't see me hiding or crying about it. Just cause you're too were to scared to drive your car hard or even take it down the 1/4, ain't my fault your a pussy.

Bro how would you know how Jon drives his cars? Trust me, he isnt scared to drive them hard. Been there, done that many times before with him.

Some of you people need to be a bit more open minded, peak power isn't everything and that D series is more then capable of running 6psi.

[barefootbonzai]

hahha yeah, just returning the favour for his retarded post. but it's true, he must have been too scared to not ever take the trip down the 1/4.

nothing wrong with d-series turbo, just people need to release it's not gonna much everything just cause it's got a turbo.

[90-POV]

Dude, dont compare a stock 30yr old engine with a small turbo on it on low boost, to a 11k swap.

If u want apples with apples, chuck atleast 5k on built internals and a bigger turbo on 18psi. Now we maybe 60% of the $ invested, and more power then your pussy ass could handle.

Stay NA, i dont give a crap. I understand your background. you cant drive as it is (wrote off your first car), let alone with power behind the front wheels. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18372&page=14) Next time you are over sucking on DynoDave's teet, ask him what was blowing off the rollers at 8krpm. Aint no 5yr old dohc 2.0, thats for sure.

haha now ur fkn funny ****...put ur money where ur **** sucking mouth is.. and line me up with ur D SERIES... ill race u BOOST for BOOST... 18psi sounds good
faggot

[90-POV]

Dude, dont compare a stock 30yr old engine with a small turbo on it on low boost, to a 11k swap.

If u want apples with apples, chuck atleast 5k on built internals and a bigger turbo on 18psi. Now we maybe 60% of the $ invested, and more power then your pussy ass could handle.

Stay NA, i dont give a crap. I understand your background. you cant drive as it is (wrote off your first car), let alone with power behind the front wheels. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18372&page=14) Next time you are over sucking on DynoDave's teet, ask him what was blowing off the rollers at 8krpm. Aint no 5yr old dohc 2.0, thats for sure.

did you forget to strap down ur car ?
sounds like it to me

[LVNIT]

hahha yeah, just returning the favour for his retarded post. but it's true, he must have been too scared to not ever take the trip down the 1/4.

nothing wrong with d-series turbo, just people need to release it's not gonna much everything just cause it's got a turbo.

No, why dont you ask Dynodave about that particular engine and you will get your reason as to why it didn't make a trip down the 1/4 mile :)

Likewise, people need to realise that k20 swaps arn't the be all and end all aswel.

90-POV - Are you serious bro? Haha what a joke

[90-POV]

Dude, dont compare a stock 30yr old engine with a small turbo on it on low boost, to a 11k swap.

If u want apples with apples, chuck atleast 5k on built internals and a bigger turbo on 18psi. Now we maybe 60% of the $ invested, and more power then your pussy ass could handle.

Stay NA, i dont give a crap. I understand your background. you cant drive as it is (wrote off your first car), let alone with power behind the front wheels. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18372&page=14) Next time you are over sucking on DynoDave's teet, ask him what blew up on the rollers at 8krpm. Aint no 5yr old dohc 2.0, thats for sure.

from wat ive heard... ur engine blew

[90-POV]

No, why dont you ask Dynodave about that particular engine and you will get your reason as to why it didn't make a trip down the 1/4 mile :)

Likewise, people need to realise that k20 swaps arn't the be all and end all aswel.

90-POV - Are you serious bro? Haha what a joke

does it sound like im joking ? if he thinks hes a pro driver n all
take it on the streets
on 18psi:thumbsup:

[Joel The Mole]

oi stop hijaking AZA's thread, far out.

who cares about a k20 rolling a crx and all that. if u wanna argue about this, start up a thread about it.

lets get back to aza's car. have u chosen which rims ur gonna put on it yet???

[Muzz]

Jees, talk about a thread screwed over by whinging bitches.
Azas happy with his setup, hes not putting down ANY bodys cars or any other setups, so why the bitch fighting? This shit is absolutly pathetic.

You could argue all day why X setup is better than Y setup, but why bother when the owner dosnt care what others think, and is well aware that there is a ton of more expensive options out there that would be much faster.

K>B>D, yes we all know already, thank you for sharing, im sure we wouldnt know if you didnt tell.

****ing internet warriors, we must fight for the almighty B and K series YO!

[Weq]

haha now ur fkn funny ****...put ur money where ur **** sucking mouth is.. and line me up with ur D SERIES... ill race u BOOST for BOOST... 18psi sounds good
faggot

Noob. You are a bit late. I grew out of honda's years ago. They were fun when i had no money and went to uni. Kmart funded my Dseries. Now ive got more power, torque, capacity and larger turbo on one bank of cylinders then you could ever extract from your honda with your pissant knowledge.


hahha yeah, just returning the favour for his retarded post. but it's true, he must have been too scared to not ever take the trip down the 1/4.

nothing wrong with d-series turbo, just people need to release it's not gonna much everything just cause it's got a turbo.

Its the same reason why online performance has the head off there CRX every 1/4 pass. Dave will tell you the story. He cant tune.


Lol what a fag. How can you bring up a crash and say that someone can't drive? I see F1 drivers, Rally and track drivers crash many times. ****en loser.

Wow. Its the dream team. I can do and say whatever the **** i like. I can draw conclusions. Cause i earnt it. I was street racing before your mummys would let u watch postman pat.

Now go home and use your tears to whack off. Cause your outa your league. Knowledge, skill, and common sense. You are missing the bunch.

[90-POV]

Noob. You are a bit late. I grew out of honda's years ago. They were fun when i had no money and went to uni. Kmart funded my Dseries. Now ive got more power, torque, capacity and larger turbo on one bank of cylinders then you could ever extract from your honda with your pissant knowledge.

well now since u got money, more power, torque, capacity and larger turbo on one bank of cylinders...why dont u come out and play.. instead of bein a hard parker:thumbdwn: or isit too much power for ur little pussy ass to handle

[riceball]

hahahahahaha

[aimre]

Damn u people dont know who ur messin with

[riceball]

wonder woman

[Aza]

like i said not upping my boost until i have a boost controller that i can run 6psi daily and more when i feel like it. atm 6 psi is what its at everyone can just deal with it. as i said before ur just playing with urself if all this crap means so much to u. way more important things in live then this bs.

[Eclipsor]

Have been watching your thread Aza. Good work on getting it all done and to a stage that you're pleased with.

[Aza]

strange hey, i dont have a problem with anyone or any car on this site yet all the hate is in my thread.

[Aza]

either next wed or the wed after. depends

[bennjamin]

back open @ thread starters guise.

Kep it nice guys otherwise infractions will be dealt out for useless replies.

update it !

[Denchy]

LoL Aza, the EK is a massive jump from the Hi Lux and the CC... good work.!!

[Aza]

bit of an update for u guys. took the civic for its first run on the track yesterday. was also my first time ever on a strip. can tell u i still need alot of practise on my luanches to bring my times down. the car is defantly capable of faster. running 14.8 atm. last night was more just abit of a test to get some practise behind the wheel and also see how much i need to boost it to have a chance of reaching my aims. the 14.8 was done in full street trim with the chromies and spare tyre and everything :D. anyway i will post a pic of the time slip.

but now more exciting news....

in less then 2 hrs i will have a Greddy Profec-B II boost controller. this is a dual stage boost controller which will allow me to switch between 2 levels of boost. Now atm its only running a measly 6 psi (14 second car on 6 psi woot....) which i am going to keep as the first level for daily driving. but then at the press of a button it will be boosted to 10 psi so that should give it abit more of a kick ;)

The boost controller is going in on saturday. the car is going the the mechanics on wednesday to fix the vaccum/idle problem. and the following saturday it will be back on the dyno to get tuned to 10psi by dynodave.

Big week coming up so lets hope i can get closer to my aim of a 13.999 or faster quater time in full street trim. Im sure at 10psi the car will be capable of it.... might just come down to me needed to do more practise.

Anyway pics of ebc and time slip will be posted later tonight. Stay tuned.

[Waggy]

I wish my car was fully tuned! :( lol....

Sounding good man - 10psi should give it a bit of a kick in the cods.

[fishman]

well done 14.8 FTW

[Aza]

thanks for the sarcasium fishman. really dont care. the real power of the car will start to show after its on 10 psi and i get some practise in.

heres the time slip anyway. im not afraid to show. no point lying.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/newbits005.jpg

and my new play thing :D

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/newbits003.jpg

[hinezz]

boost controller looks gud ;) nw u can run more boost :)

[Aza]

thanks mate ;) will be good to get her installed then tuned again :D

[hondavti25]

hey i watched aza there .... his car defs ran smother but as he said with more prac on launching his times will be alot better was the only thing i think that put his time up was launches so good job man cant wait till you got the hang of it and the car is running smooth :P maybe we can try get my stock y8 up against you for a laugh :P

[Angie]

The launch might not have been as bad as you think, 60ft time of 2.2 is well done for a first start dude, remember every .1 of a sec there = .2 at the end.

I really think you need to do something about your tyre choice, but that will come down the track, good stuff for a first effort.

[Aza]

i only did the 2.2 once my other 3 were 2.5, 2.6 and 2.5.... cant even remember how i did the 2.2 :( but if thats the case then theres defantly more sped in the car considering i pulled close times even with 2.5 60ft's haha

[Aza]

pics on the strip

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/gallery_1008_4946_55109.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/Aza_LN46/gallery_1008_4946_57790.jpg

as u can see full street trim :p couldnt even be ****ed taking the spare out

[kraiye]

nice helmut :p
keep us posted when your there next, i'd like to see it on the strip - well that, and it's been like 6 years since i been to the drags... lame!!

[Aza]

stole the helmet off my neighbour :D

[bennjamin]

ffs take those 20kg per corner rims off lol. Leave the interior but change to smaller rims plz ! Your times (1/4 , 60ft , r/t etc) will greatly improve :)

[Aza]

whats the point in changing the car, that is how i drive it every day and as it sits is how i wanna no wat times it do. no point going ohh it can do a 13.7 but it take sa day to strip interior and change wheels around. i will get some light weigh rims eventually. but for now i'll race on what i got ;) haha believe it or not im not rich i couldnt get new tyres/rims even if i wanted to atm :p

[EG5[KRT]]

nice time !!!

[Angie]

come to wsid, u get sick photos like this and you can buy them

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m280/TUF555/wsidstreetmeet151106_023.jpg

[Aza]

hmmm yeah just idled up and gave it a go. will def try some different things next time.

[Sexc86]

whats the point in changing the car, that is how i drive it every day and as it sits is how i wanna no wat times it do. no point going ohh it can do a 13.7 but it take sa day to strip interior and change wheels around.


Agreed... Good times mate especially for your first time ! you should be able to bring it down to low 14s with more practice with your car in as is condition...

GO BUY A HELMET! Only Cost $30 at cashies.... dont need to be a high balla for that ;)

[aimre]

GO BUY A HELMET! Only Cost $30 at cashies.... dont need to be a high balla for that ;)

Your really NOT ment to do that. Once a helmet has been dropped, it should never be used again. They also have use by dates

[Aza]

man why do we always talk about useless shit that has nothing to do with the main topic.

[Aza]

boost controller now working, i will take photos sometime.... haha im in love with it now. found out my wategate only has a 4psi spring :S o well should still boost to 10 psi :D

[hinezz]

sweet man, gud to knw its working well. hav fun wit it :)

[DLO01]

Excellent Az. Have fun. :wave:

[Aza]

idle problem is getting fixed as we speak, my uncle whos also my mechanic found the problem last night. so that should all be fine. should all be green lights for sat. 10 PSI ftw

[Waggy]

Top shit man. Let us know the results. :)

[Weq]

12psi man :)

a few peeps run 1bar on the lil greddy turbo without and issue...eheheh

U'll love/10-11psi. turbos comes into its efficency range, and pulls alot harder.

[Angie]

U'll love/10-11psi. turbos comes into its efficency range, and pulls alot harder.

Excatly!!! Aza listen to this man! 6psi just isnt high enough.

[Aza]

da duh.... thats why i bought a freaking controller.... 6 psi aint high enough.

[DLO01]

da duh.... thats why i bought a freaking controller.... 6 psi aint high enough.

Ha ha Az. lol. Some people. :p

[Aza]

haha angie is acutually cory my older bro

[kraiye]

12psi man :)

a few peeps run 1bar on the lil greddy turbo without and issue...eheheh

U'll love/10-11psi. turbos comes into its efficency range, and pulls alot harder.
sory to hijack but does anyone know the efficiency range of a TD04L ?

p.s i got the ecu ok Aza :thumbsup: thanks heaps for that

[crx_boy7]

had one before(greddy boost controller) couldnt work out how the hell ur meant to set it, didnt even know what spring the wastegate had, think it was around 14 psi

so the car was boosting to 30 psi hehehe
man thats fast

[Aza]

i know how to use it now, gets set and put on dyno on tuesday, will finally have some number on 10 psi...

driving around on 8 atm and thats alot funner then 6 haha :)

[Aza]

just fixed intercooler piping leak. instantl gained 1 psi and oost comes on alot more aggressively. but big development..... the boost gauge acturlly DOES work, now that i have a second one i have been able to compare and they do read the same....

SO that means the 14.8 was done on 4 psi not 6.... hmmm interesting.

o well dyno in 2 days time :D

[SLOWEGG]

Who's tuning the boost for you?

[DynoDave]

Who's tuning the boost for you?
I told AZA to get the boys @ 101 Motorcafe to finish setting the controller up for him.
Regards Dyno Dave

[Aza]

new goodies arrived today, new IM gasket and a walbro 255lph fuel pump (thanks jdmyard). my stock one is dying, cant keep the fuel up under boost. story short i couldnt get it boosted this week cuase was running to lean.... so dave doing it himselve just befor ejambo :D. also new coilovers commiing in the next week to :)

[DLO01]

Horay!!! :p:thumbsup:

[Joel The Mole]

r u doing injectors aswell???

[SLOWEGG]

He's already running 750cc.

[Joel The Mole]

oh...right, missed that post.

[Aza]

550 actually but that is big enough for me

[Aza]

fuel pump is now in :) took all of 20min...

ha too bad its raining i wanna drive it and see if the fuel dont drop off half wayy through

[Aza]

coming to the stage where i need to try and get my power to the ground better, and what better way to start...

got these suckers coming this week to replace my coil over sleeves that work like dog balls and gives the car a very rough ride.

http://www.tein.co.jp/products/photo/ss_products.jpg

[Sexc86]

what are they tein SS ?, did you end up getting your car tuned on 10psi yet mate?

[Aza]

dave aint up here till thurs and yeah tein ss.

[hondavti25]

when do i get a ride aza:(

[Aza]

well i have 4 more days with the civic till the new owner picks it up. lol what a year, never worked on a car so much then i have in the 9 months i owned this car. but doing all this engine work and suspension work i have full changed my liking in cars and even though this car goes good for what it is, it doesnt have enough potiential for what i like now. new car should be here soon :) and no its not a honda, but i will continue to be playing with turbos. thanks to everyone who have leant a hand and helped me couldnt have got to where i am now without u. and no i didnt get to run it on the quater at 10 psi, dam shame. o well bring on the new project.

[Weq]

what are u movin onto dude?

PS. i know the feeling :)

[1996ek1]

what are u movin onto dude?

PS. i know the feeling :)

Yea i'd also like to know what your moving onto

Your civic was rather interesting, just spent the last 2 hours of my life or thereabouts reading the 38 pages, i liked it :thumbsup:


And Weq, what kind of car do you drive nowdays?

[DLO01]

Congrats on your acheivements Az. Good luck with the new car.

I still can't understand though how people spend so much time, effort and money on a car to end up selling it nearly straight away once finished.

But your got to do what you got to do, hey?

[hinezz]

what are u movin onto dude?

PS. i know the feeling :)
WRX Bug eye:p

[Aza]

what hinezz said....

yea ALOT of money time and effort went in to this car and i am starting to miss it and it hasnt even gone yet :p but i know what i want to move on to and i know i will like the new car alot more when im done. i get more enjoyment out of building cars :p kinda shows ganna be onto my 6th car at the age of 19...

[1996ek1]

what hinezz said....

yea ALOT of money time and effort went in to this car and i am starting to miss it and it hasnt even gone yet :p but i know what i want to move on to and i know i will like the new car alot more when im done. i get more enjoyment out of building cars :p kinda shows ganna be onto my 6th car at the age of 19...

Gl with that :thumbsup:

19 driving turbo civic & rex?

That shit rule isn't in QLD i assume where no one without blacks can drive turbo ?

And 6th car at 19 ? Wow.... Sounds like money isn't an issue there, lol

[Aza]

no money isnt an issue, qualified in my trade and living with parents haha....

and it only just got introduced so it doesnt affect me :p