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BLKCRX
18-06-2004, 05:24 PM
YAY finally today after months of work I finished my ADR 37 testing !! making my car 100% road legal in every possible way, tested on Full Boost with well over 300kw I’m so happy and speechless at the same time !!

Thanks to the guys at Toyota ADR testing labs, Adrian from Razz Tech, Al from Pro Ex, Cuddlescat for being full of cuddles ;-) And the countless other people who have helped me get to where I am ! Now its time to Race !!! and drive on the street !!

Enjoy the pics !! ;)

Regards James



http://www.hondatech.com.au/epa-can-suck-my-balls-mycar-is-fully-legal/adr-37-00/DSC00626.jpg


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Rowie
18-06-2004, 05:39 PM
congratulations mate....

With great power comes great responsibility :D

denaro
18-06-2004, 07:30 PM
Awesome work.

Congrats on the ability to run a monster on the street :D

ECU-MAN
18-06-2004, 07:45 PM
that is absolutly insane, i love it, I can just imagine how stoked you are...

love your exhust manifold, looks tuff

pornstar
18-06-2004, 07:50 PM
what a shit car James, u should go NA, cos turbo hondas are for people without a clue.

fusion_VTi
18-06-2004, 08:43 PM
what a shit car James, u should go NA, cos turbo hondas are for people without a clue.

LOL, oh and dont forget mate for people who think horsepower is more important than speed ;)

but seriously awesome work with it, 300kw's from a 1.6 is awesome congrats ;)

2ds
18-06-2004, 11:24 PM
bout bloody time, i expect to see it on the 26th !

-2ds

Weq
19-06-2004, 12:12 AM
wish those machines gave dyno readous also.. lol..

nice work the the street legalness.

alan
19-06-2004, 04:43 AM
how much does this testing and so on to make it legal cost?

Weq
19-06-2004, 12:32 PM
for the general public, its free..
i assume james worked with the testing centre a bit more with his tune to get it legal though...

BLKCRX
19-06-2004, 04:41 PM
Are you serious ADR testing free …. your joking ! that’s the most stupidest thing iv herd all summer.

The ADR testing has gone on for the last 7 months, testing everything from fuel flow, noise, vibrations, shed test, emissions and many hydro carbon levels, pre soak tests and many other tests.

I think your referring to a IM240 test which is only a very basic 5minute co2 emission test offered by the NSW government for free only. The IM240 test is not an Australia designed regulated test such as ADR 37/00, not even 1% close. Here in Victoria Im240 tests are not free and start around $700, lucky the NSW government pays for those tests. Full ADR’ing starts around $5000.00 + depending on whats being ADR’ed

Regards James

Weq
19-06-2004, 04:51 PM
Are you serious ADR testing free …. your joking ! that’s the most stupidest thing iv herd all summer.

The ADR testing has gone on for the last 7 months, testing everything from fuel flow, noise, vibrations, shed test, emissions and many hydro carbon levels, pre soak tests and many other tests.

I think your referring to a IM240 test which is only a very basic 5minute co2 emission test offered by the NSW government for free only. The IM240 test is not an Australia designed regulated test such as ADR 37/00, not even 1% close. Here in Victoria Im240 tests are not free and start around $700, lucky the NSW government pays for those tests. Full ADR’ing starts around $5000.00 + depending on whats being ADR’ed

Regards James

So whats it called when an engineer says your car complises with emmsions standards and gives u a certificate allowing u do drive ur car legally around?? And the test i took consisted of THC, NOx, CO and CO2 (was measured but didnt effect anything) being measured,

In any case, what modifications did u undertake that caused u to have to undergo full complience testing?

ps. sorry for sounding so stupid

alan
20-06-2004, 04:43 AM
so wot would haf to be dun if i was to replace my D series motor wif a B series engine and add FI?

prices?

BLKCRX
20-06-2004, 11:39 AM
I know the test you have done if you look on the top it will say “IM240” it’s a warm start emission test which is very basic. But simply put it mean’s nuffing in regards to the Australia Design rules and regulations, you can’t manufactory or certify products off a IM240 test. The fact my car is now ADR certified means I can resell everything on the car as a kit or “performance upgrade” and its considered legal, it also certifies things of less spec… ie same setup with a stock engine on low boost smaller injectors etc would also be automatically covered within the ADR rules.

In Victoria and the rest of Australia they don’t accept IM240 tests because there just to basic, I question why EPA NSW accepts them because al a IM240 test realy shows is the effectiveness of your cat, but yeah your lucky the process in NSW is a lot more easier than the rest of Australia.



Alan as for a price to FI your engine, anywhere rom $5,000.00 to $150,000.00 how far do you wanta go ?

Regards James

poid
20-06-2004, 12:35 PM
What other emissions are tested i the testing you went through then James? From what i understand the testing Weq is talking about tests for all the important pollutants, so if your car passes that test and complies with EPA standards why wouldnt it be acceptable to the RTA? I cant understand the extra testing if you are trying to get an ECU itself tested for approval, but for an individual vehicle passing the basic test should be fine.

Hell, here a guy i know just had to supply A/F ratio readings to have his car pass through the RTA as acceptable, as we dont have an emissions testing station

Weq
20-06-2004, 03:23 PM
Ahhk cool. So its to allow u resell products..

alan
20-06-2004, 04:23 PM
i meant wot tests would haf to be done or wot tests did u haf done and prices of tests

pornstar
20-06-2004, 06:08 PM
Weq, leave the smart ass shit out of it. We are all in the same game, we are all looking for performance hondas.

As for the tests, its fully ADR, if u get a canary for ur turbo, its an engineering thing that u also need for it. Its not a cheap test.

Weq
20-06-2004, 06:38 PM
sorry if i came across like that. was also serioes accept the ps comment :P

Nuttz
20-06-2004, 11:09 PM
so the BLKCRX turbo kits gonna be released soon??

McChook
21-06-2004, 12:37 AM
So its to allow u resell products..

Just like he does with Hondatas..?? sticks them in his GFs car, then sells it to someone else as a new computer..... thinking thy won;t notice??

BLKCRX
21-06-2004, 07:19 AM
Yeah thats correct we can resell anything legaly on the car now ;) BLKCRX kit already ready to rock n roll ;)

Its called the Razz Tech turbo kit :) Fully ADR 37 legal out of the box.


2nd Hand Hondata products your kidding me right ? cat's got her own Hondata setup in her prelude she's had it since day one... what are you talkin about ?

Regards James

Jus-10
21-06-2004, 02:44 PM
Top news James.

I'm sure many of us here would find it difficult to comprehend the amount of effort, time and money involved in the process.

Never the less, it sounds like an awesome achievement.

fueltank
21-06-2004, 03:01 PM
Hope they sell like hotcakes james!
Nothing better than telling an officer your turbo kit is ADR complied!

pornstar
21-06-2004, 04:56 PM
ill wait for mcchooks reply on this. I wanna hear his "evidence"

[G]
21-06-2004, 05:20 PM
Ok kinda off topic but whilst we are talking about evidence could i please see evidence on the b20 which u claimed to have built that produces power at and revs to 14,000 RPM please..As seen in thread below.

http://www.exclusive-auto.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2328&highlight=h22a

pornstar
21-06-2004, 05:30 PM
[G] I've witnessed that engine and the car. Its nuts! Adrian from RAzztech built it, and its a monster. Its one damn fast street car!

McChook
21-06-2004, 05:40 PM
ill wait for mcchooks reply on this. I wanna hear his "evidence"

Evidence??
I don't need any. The owner knows it and has spoken to james about it, so try again. I know, as do others. The owner doesn;t need to speak up about it, he is already unimpressed but does not need to be known

How about James asks the guys in the USA how many S200s with self tuning kits have been sold in order to avoid him...

weezer
21-06-2004, 06:16 PM
[G] I've witnessed that engine and the car. Its nuts! Adrian from RAzztech built it, and its a monster. Its one damn fast street car!

but 14k?

pornstar
21-06-2004, 06:17 PM
i dun think 14k, but i didnt build the car. Im not sure what its rev limiter is, but i did see it taken to 10k rpm once

[G]
21-06-2004, 06:18 PM
[G] I've witnessed that engine and the car. Its nuts! Adrian from RAzztech built it, and its a monster. Its one damn fast street car!

Im not doubting mate, i am more than anything CURIOUS to see EVIDENCE in whatever form that may be.

EDIT: i just saw your last post. You did say in the post which i have quoted that you have witnessed this motor and car rev to 10k, which was in reply to me posting a link where it was said that it revs to 14k. There is alot of difference between 10 and 14,000 RPM - 10 is somewhat believeable 14 on the other hand is not.

If im wrong and it DOES rev to 14,000 RPM and makes power there...i agree what a monster.

pornstar
21-06-2004, 06:21 PM
not saying u were, just saying i sat in it and it was a monster even at 8k rpms, he took it once to 10k rpsm! :)

i dunno about 14k rpms....

one more chance
21-06-2004, 11:59 PM
14K rpm? what compression must it be running and on what fuel? C12?

James that a crazy amount of work you've put into your turbo kit, good to see you've gone the right way about it too!
quick question about ur MSD ignition, which are u using? its not a 6A is it, i thought theyre incompatible for hondas.

2ds
22-06-2004, 01:32 PM
As a point of note he said it reved to 14k not it made power to 14k in that post.

-2ds

BLKCRX
22-06-2004, 08:57 PM
Currently the engine was only tuned for “run in “ process, im actually up in Sydney right now about to re tune the car. We limited the engine to 10,000rpm on the street so far, but on sunaco fuel it should see 14,000. Everything about the engine has been
designed to withstand this kind of punishment on the track and the cam’s at 10,000rpm are holding up perfectly making lots of power on normal s8000 Mobil fuel. Ill find out tomorrow on the dyno with Dyno Dave at Mt Druitt how much power we end up making at what RPM, we do have to modify the intake manifold above and beyond original specification before we can rev this high, with any luck I want to race the car at eastern creek tomorrow night if its open before going back to Melbourne… just gota ditch the 18” wheels it has on the car now for some slicks. I invite anyone who’s interested in making history to give me a call and witness it your self tomorrow at Mt Druitt.

PS vtec comes on at 8200rpm !! eheh

As for my car yes I’m running a MSD 6a, when dealing with high boost levels you need a ignition amplification device to keep a nice spark plug gap that won’t cause miss fireing.


Regards James

crx_16x
23-06-2004, 01:19 AM
James,

Did you use a Honda B20 block in the build or a remanufactured one such as a Dart?

BLKCRX
23-06-2004, 01:56 AM
No honda Parts were used what so eva .. heheh ;) mainly eveything custom or Razz Tech....

Regards James

bumthology
23-06-2004, 02:47 AM
that thing shoved on the exhaust..
reminds me of what they do in hospitals.. shove a tube in ur willy hole
lol

pgclee
23-06-2004, 02:50 AM
14k RPM?...
i tot is 12....damn....2500rpm more than me....Sob sob...

if the car is ready...i would be soooooo delighted to see it anywhere in AUS...hardly can see a car rev over 12k RPM dude...don't fail me dude...this is really some high expectation stuff that you'd say...14k...wow...i better start thinking how those Crank and piston move and spin man...

pornstar
23-06-2004, 03:19 AM
boon, did u like riding in it up to 8k rpms? fast eh?

pgclee
23-06-2004, 08:21 PM
I want mine to be 14k as well.......!??.....

[G]
24-06-2004, 03:24 PM
As a point of note he said it reved to 14k not it made power to 14k in that post.

-2ds

Sorry i ASSUMED that one would only rev their engine to 14,000 RPM IF there was something to gain/power to be made there. Must be just another case of "MY CAR REVS TO 14k so it is the Shiznit".

On another note how much power DID it make at how many revs, as the car was supposedly being dynoed yesterday from your post.

2ds
24-06-2004, 04:23 PM
]
As a point of note he said it reved to 14k not it made power to 14k in that post.

-2ds

Sorry i ASSUMED that one would only rev their engine to 14,000 RPM IF there was something to gain/power to be made there. Must be just another case of "MY CAR REVS TO 14k so it is the Shiznit".

On another note how much power DID it make at how many revs, as the car was supposedly being dynoed yesterday from your post.

=p making a car actually rev out to 14k (and not blow up) wether it makes power or not is an achievement.

[G]
24-06-2004, 11:18 PM
If you READ the topic properly the car hasnt even been revved to 14,000.

:roll: :roll:

2ds
25-06-2004, 12:07 AM
]If you READ the topic properly the car hasnt even been revved to 14,000.

:roll: :roll:

smartarse =)

-2ds

SEPSIR
04-07-2004, 08:36 PM
great piece of work...james

toNy

Javed
10-08-2004, 09:57 PM
Everyone else should STFU and congratulate James (even though I do not know you personally I assume I can call you that ;)) on his effort with his CRX. This thread relates to nothing else, and all of you bitches i would like to see try and attempt an effort of this magnitude by yourselves. Nuff said :D

flyhonda
20-10-2004, 11:41 PM
whoa, i love this car! So how much will the Razz Tech kit cost?! I guess after all this testing and stuff, should be looking around the $10-20k area? or even more?

panda[cRx]
27-10-2004, 06:37 PM
as far as i know the car STILL hasnt run at 14k.....
is the car running at all right now?

aznsiko
27-10-2004, 06:59 PM
daaaaamnnnnn.. 300KW farking crazy man.. dat i gon own all.!!

b16a_integra
27-10-2004, 07:55 PM
i was also wondering about how much the turbo kit will cost, and whats involved in the kit?? also being that it would be an ADR turbo kit would it come with some sort of certification that it meets ADR?? so the cops can goto hell. :)

Lyle_Style
27-10-2004, 10:18 PM
Man That Is Kick Ass Im Soooo Jealous!!!! Great Work!