Tracking Gears??

[BusterSonic12]

going to track for the first time soon, just wonderin' what are some decent brands for helmets? because don't really want to use the rental since everyone sweat in them :eek:

[Benson]

going to track for the first time soon, just wonderin' what are some decent brands for helmets? because don't really want to use the rental since everyone sweat in them :eek:
Go to any motorbike shop and pick one up from there. They have a range of helmet ranging from 100-1000, take ur pick.

[BusterSonic12]

how do u determine what's one and what's not? is motor helmet same as the one u use on track?

[Q_ball]

Anything that is road approved can be used on the track, drags as well.
So yes, motorbike helmet can be used.

[Drew]

Go to any motorbike shop and pick one up from there. They have a range of helmet ranging from 100-1000, take ur pick.

DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do this...

Motorbike helmets are designed and built to a different standard...

You need a car helmet which is very different indeed to a motorbike helmet; and thus they won't let you onto the track in a car if you have a motorbike helmet

Find a racing gear outlet; someone who possibly deals in Go Kart racing should be able to at least point you into the right direction

The staff in the said shop should know everything there is to know about the different safety standards and regulations that apply to helmets... If they are unsure which helmet is for car or bike I would seriously contemplate going somewhere else, you should not be selling helmets if you haven't even the slightest idea about them

Myself I have a Simpson helmet these days:wave:

$10 helmet for a $10 head
I have a very good head; my helmet is worth nearly a grand :)

[BusterSonic12]

yep thanks ;)
planning to get the THH TS-15. good + cheap. since i m only noob, 1st timer, i think it should be ok. i will go see the range tomorrow.



DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do this...

Motorbike helmets are designed and built to a different standard...

You need a car helmet which is very different indeed to a motorbike helmet; and thus they won't let you onto the track in a car if you have a motorbike helmet

Find a racing gear outlet; someone who possibly deals in Go Kart racing should be able to at least point you into the right direction

The staff in the said shop should know everything there is to know about the different safety standards and regulations that apply to helmets... If they are unsure which helmet is for car or bike I would seriously contemplate going somewhere else, you should not be selling helmets if you haven't even the slightest idea about them

Myself I have a Simpson helmet these days:wave:

$10 helmet for a $10 head
I have a very good head; my helmet is worth nearly a grand :)

[aaronng]

DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do this...

Motorbike helmets are designed and built to a different standard...

You need a car helmet which is very different indeed to a motorbike helmet; and thus they won't let you onto the track in a car if you have a motorbike helmet

Find a racing gear outlet; someone who possibly deals in Go Kart racing should be able to at least point you into the right direction

The staff in the said shop should know everything there is to know about the different safety standards and regulations that apply to helmets... If they are unsure which helmet is for car or bike I would seriously contemplate going somewhere else, you should not be selling helmets if you haven't even the slightest idea about them

Myself I have a Simpson helmet these days:wave:

$10 helmet for a $10 head
I have a very good head; my helmet is worth nearly a grand :)
Mate, motorcycle, go-kart and car racing helmets are built to the same AS1698 standard. Don't be pulling out information out of thin air that they are built to different standards. The only difference between a road bike helmet and a car racing helmet is that the racing helmet has a Nomex layer in order to be flame retardant (as per FIA rules) and has slightly thicker material.

Unless you are in a FIA-sanctioned event, you can use the motorcycle helmet for track days.

BTW, where do you find an AS-tested helmet for $10? That would not meet safety standards and therefore can't be used. The cheapest brand, THH is already over $70 for a full face.

[aaronng]

Bustersonic13, read this too: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24579

[Drew]

BTW, where do you find an AS-tested helmet for $10? That would not meet safety standards and therefore can't be used. The cheapest brand, THH is already over $70 for a full face.


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Does it really matter if you are at an FIA sanctioned event or not?
You life is still on the line

I think you might mean SA not AS?

http://www.soloracer.com/helmettech.html

They may not all that different however is it hasn't been SA test a motorbike helmet may or may not be up to the task at hand...

Yes yes blah blah blah I wont crash blah blah blah whats the chance of that ever happening blah blah blah

A mate got T-boned by a van on his motorbike; 4 years later he is still recovering physically, going to rehab etc etc... mentally he's mint as but he talks like a complete retard... Even thought he was wearing full gear

Not exactly related to track racing but still shit happens when you least expect it; and it probably won't even be your fault

[aaronng]

Does it really matter if you are at an FIA sanctioned event or not?
You life is still on the line

Do you wear a nomex suit and nomex gloves when you are on track?

[Drew]

I wear a suit, gloves, shoes and a face mask when at the track

The helmet is the most important thing you can ever have...

If you get burnt really badly you will be one fugly mofo for the rest of your life; but if you crack open your skull you will die

[aaronng]

I wear a suit, gloves, shoes and a face mask when at the track

The helmet is the most important thing you can ever have...

If you get burnt really badly you will be one fugly mofo for the rest of your life; but if you crack open your skull you will die

On track here, no one wears a full suit, so having a fire-resistant helmet is not too useful when every other part of their body is on fire too. Which can be worse? An accident at 100km/h in a car or the same on a bike?

[Drew]

Depends on the accident and what you hit/hits you...

I've noticed that people give safety the birdie here...
Having only spent 3 weeks in Australia now I have still only seen TWO people on bikes wearing full gear... and ONE person wearing a jacket...

People are complete clots riding a motorbike wearing a helmet, t shirt, shorts and saddles

I can understand that people just tracking their car for fun once or twice a year or drag racing pulling 13s might not be all that dangerous and cant justify forking out thousands for gear they will use maybe 3 times

But when you competitively race your car you better have full gear... and when you have full gear you might as well get your moneys worth out of it whenever you're at the track

You can hide the burns on your body with clothing... but ****ed if I'm going to wear a paper bag over my head everywhere I go

It's like saying "Well I've lost my left hand; meh don't really need my right hand then"

I totally get where you are coming from here; but I'm just really safety conscious. Too many people skimp too much

But if I had the choice of crashing the car at 100km/h into something solid or falling off a motorbike in leathers but not hitting anything... I would rather fall off the bike... But if I had to hit something I'd take the car over the bike

[aaronng]

Depends on the accident and what you hit/hits you...

I've noticed that people give safety the birdie here...
Having only spent 3 weeks in Australia now I have still only seen TWO people on bikes wearing full gear... and ONE person wearing a jacket...

People are complete clots riding a motorbike wearing a helmet, t shirt, shorts and saddles
I totally agree. Even jeans and a regular jacket are insufficient as riding protection. Just as bad are those carrying backpacks which are not designed for bike use. If they were to crash and roll, they would suffer extreme back injury as the normal backpacks do not detach when they fall.



I can understand that people just tracking their car for fun once or twice a year or drag racing pulling 13s might not be all that dangerous and cant justify forking out thousands for gear they will use maybe 3 times

But when you competitively race your car you better have full gear... and when you have full gear you might as well get your moneys worth out of it whenever you're at the track
Also agreed. When racing competitively, there is a must for FULL safety gear. However, what bustersonic13 is planning to attend is not competitive racing. It is a timed track day for enthusiasts. And for that, him forking out $1000 for a helmet when he will be wearing only long sleeved shirt and pants is not reasonable. Also, if you have been to wakefield, it is a low speed technical course.



I totally get where you are coming from here; but I'm just really safety conscious. Too many people skimp too much
I agree that if you were racing competitively where there will be other cars with you as you are entering the corner, then full safety gear (including a rol cage and safety nets) is a must. However, for the level he will be participating in, which is shared timed laps with overtaking only allowed on the straights, the stated requirements are an AS-approved helmet, long sleeved shirt, long pants, socks and closed shoes.



But if I had the choice of crashing the car at 100km/h into something solid or falling off a motorbike in leathers but not hitting anything... I would rather fall off the bike... But if I had to hit something I'd take the car over the bike
That's why I think bike helmets are just as well designed as racing/kart helmet when it comes to impacts. In fact, there are many competitive racing levels that allow bike helments to be used AS LONG AS the bike helmet is FIA-approved.

[Drew]

Lets just leave it at that shall we...

If you are looking into regularly attending track days; take safety seriously. Nothing is overkill

[aaronng]

If you are looking into regularly attending track days; take safety seriously. Nothing is overkill
I agree with you 100% :thumbsup:

[BusterSonic12]

sorry guys.. O.o

[Drew]

It's ok we still love you ^_^

[fatboyz39]

If the helmet meet the standards, and has a sticker on it then by that helmet.

[todas**t]

dont forget the race suit for fire proof just incase your car catchs on fire

[BusterSonic12]

got this today. $109.95. was going to get the THH TS15 but i didn't like the colour much so went with this, quite like it
RJays Razor, blue :thumbsup:

http://xea.xanga.com/f01d447503135108475834/b76970648.jpg

[.::F[L]Y::.]

dont forget the roll cage as well :P

[froggy]

you guys all forgot about protecting one of the most important body parts....your doodle.....so everyone who tracks should wear a box and some fire retardant material around your doodle area just so lil jonny don't catch on fire......

Hey drew do you wear your helmet and race suit when your driving on the streets??? what if you have an accident and your car catches on fire, since your so cautious you might as well wear it when your driving on the road

[Drew]

To put it simply I don't drive at 200km/h on the street :rolleyes:

Slight difference between doing 60 and 200

If the car catches fire I can just pull over and run away like a sissy... in a track car it's a little bit harder to get out of the car; its not as easy as opening the door and just stepping out.

[aaronng]

It depends on the requirements of the track. For the ones here, the helmet just needs to meet AS1698 (which covers motorcycle and car helmets) for timed track runs. For competitive races under FIA calendar, the helmet has to meet FIA regulations. Here's the regulations for Australia. As you can see, M2000 is allowed only for karts, but an AS1698 helmet is allowed for all other classes.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/264/clipboard03cp8.jpg

[Drew]

There is a reason as to why certain helmets only have certain ratings/standards

They look the same but do different jobs...