need coilovers

[BOOSTD]

hi guys jus needed some help with purchasing coilovers for my ap1 s2000.......any suggestions?

[TODA AU]

FIGHTEX - Best on the market

[blusir2]

FIGHTEX - Best on the market

I agree with Adrian..

I had a set of Fightex Dual adjust on my EG6 and that car handled like it was on rails.. didn't even need skill to drive the car anymore..

had freak show grip...

Will be getting a set of Dual adjust for my AP1 too mate... i reckon u should give em a try..

[.::F[L]Y::.]

how much you willing to spend man?

heaps of traders from here can get u most coilovers from japan.

id recommend Tein flex, buddyclub or bilstein PSS9. All around 1.5-2k mark

[chicken8]

chop your stock springs :thumbsup:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

chop your stock springs :thumbsup:

rofl get with the times.

people compress springs now, for the extra bounce.:p

[euroasia]

according to another source on s2ki, doesn't the stock suspenion have external reserviors? so wouldn't you want something that would be premium product that would facilitate for everything including that?


i'd say if you afford yourself the pocket money to buy an s2k, then you afford yourself the premium mods.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Tein RS or Spoon SHOWA coilovers have these external tanks.

Also the bilsteins i mentioned earlier as well.

[ROLLED]

depends what your using the car for...

show or for the track? I reckon you'll find the stock suspension adequate for track work...

[BOOSTD]

cool guys thanx for the advise.....just gotta do my research i guess

[blusir2]

according to another source on s2ki, doesn't the stock suspenion have external reserviors? so wouldn't you want something that would be premium product that would facilitate for everything including that?


i'd say if you afford yourself the pocket money to buy an s2k, then you afford yourself the premium mods.

yeh the rear shocks have separate tanks to carry more oil and have a smoother and much more fine absorbing force.. the fronts are as normal..

but yeh TODA fightex have a set that have the separate tanks front and back..

[PLES2K]

FIGHTEX - Best on the market

Tell us (or just me) more please

[SDUCTV]

G4 racing coilovers from JUSTJAP sydney
$1300

[WhiteAP1]

If u got the cash id recomend Zeal or bilstien. Tien are pretty much in the middle of the market for a good quality steet coilover,i love my set. In the end its up to ure budget just stay away from shit made in taiwan really.

[teamkillerpe]

Hi everyone, I am new to the forum...

Can anyone help me find a place that can get a quote on (+ order) these suspensions?
I'd like to compare the prices... and anyone has any recommendations?

Bilstein Pss9
Aragosta
Amuse Hi-tech

Spring rates... looking at a relatively softer F8 R10.

Thanks for the help in advance.

[WhiteAP1]

Where are u located?

[Si1enzio]

Anyone rate Buddyclub N+?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

If u got the cash id recomend Zeal or bilstien. Tien are pretty much in the middle of the market for a good quality steet coilover,i love my set. In the end its up to ure budget just stay away from shit made in taiwan really.

i agree with you there. Zeal or Bilstein ftw. :thumbsup:
As far as bilstein go i think the PSS9 are the best which offers damper adjustments. There is a cheaper version the BSS? which has the reservoirs but dont have damper adjustments

But in the end if its just for STREET use then no need to splurge so much on these brands unless you got some spare cash or deep pockets. Taiwanese brand coilovers such as D2's will do the job for street driving. I had D2's on my previous s2k and they were pretty good for street and the occasional trackday. But then again i only paid 750-800 for them :p

[Si1enzio]

Y::.;1199819']i agree with you there. Zeal or Bilstein ftw. :thumbsup:
As far as bilstein go i think the PSS9 are the best which offers damper adjustments. There is a cheaper version the BSS? which has the reservoirs but dont have damper adjustments

But in the end if its just for STREET use then no need to splurge so much on these brands unless you got some spare cash or deep pockets. Taiwanese brand coilovers such as D2's will do the job for street driving. I had D2's on my previous s2k and they were pretty good for street and the occasional trackday. But then again i only paid 750-800 for them :p

John, where'd you get your D2 from? why so cheap...?

[STTICH]

Fly how did the D2 ride? was it bumpy at all?

imo especially for s2k, if u dont need major dumpage or tracking purpose. aftermarket springs shud b good enuf. :thumbsup:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Fly how did the D2 ride? was it bumpy at all?

imo especially for s2k, if u dont need major dumpage or tracking purpose. aftermarket springs shud b good enuf. :thumbsup:

the d2's were quite good. i had the car lowered at about 2.75" all round and it was pretty comfy. Was not bouncy at all. I cant really make a comparison to other coilovers in terms of the s2000 but i thought they were adequate for my applications.

[teamkillerpe]

Where are u located?

I am in Sydney.

Thx in advance.

[notahonda]

hey FLY how come u got the D2s so cheap? were they used?

[WhiteAP1]

I am in Sydney.

Thx in advance.


Cant really help u there, im in Melbourne. My advice is to check out the trader section or talk to a few of the guys over at s2ki.com

[mania]

you could try hsd coil overs they have 3 types start from 1300.

[joey99]

if you want teh best .. it's TEIN monoflex

[teamkillerpe]

Thx WhiteAp1.

Anyone tried the JIC suspension?
Anyone splashed their money on aragosta?
what spring rates r u guys using?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Look up Quantum coilovers....

[eriktufa]

Any Idea good coilover for $2000 aud?

You guys mention about billstein or zeal, where can you get them for that price?

[yourfather]

Zeal is about 2,500 for Function X.

JIC is about 2,000
Tein flex about 1,700

[teamkillerpe]

I have been trying to look for the bilstein PSS9....
can't seem to find it anywhere... can anyone give a pointer?
How much they are... and where to get them.....

i've come across a deal on JICs
~1700 for the 10 adjustment std model
~2100 for the 15 adjustment top model
Anyone interested? Perhaps we can have a group buy and get more discounts.

The price is attractive, but I haven't heard much feedbacks on how they are... and with the S2ki forum bagging it.... I am hesitant to try them....

Aragosta seems like the go.... but... so bloody expensive.... cannot really justify the cost.... and worried that the 13/12.3 spring rate being too stiff to live with on a daily basis....

I am just really puzzled as to what to get.....!!!:confused:
HELP!!!!!!

[ludecrs]

If you're referring to the Oz S2kI section forget it. Most don't have the intention of modifying their car at all.

If you want real information, frequent the rest of the forum.

I've read the JIC's are VERY good esp for track work, but like you, I'm after a set of PSS9's. There's a set of PSS for sale in the traders section from Yanaka or whatever his name is, but he is so overpriced its not even worth buying. He had them listed at $1500, and when I enquired, they miraculously jumped to $1800 + postage...... and then the thread was deleted with the $1500 price tag. fkn dodgy.

[yourfather]

15 step adjustment is like 2000

[teamkillerpe]

Anyone with JICs on the car care to shed the light on the ride quality?
And aragosta?

yourfather, any experience with the JICs? or any recommendations?

Help!!
Thxxx

[yourfather]

nah man, no experience.

im just a small time dude

[AusS2000]

I'm holding out for electro-magnetic dampers.

[teamkillerpe]

I'm holding out for electro-magnetic dampers.

In the not too distant future?
but.... how affordable?

[WhiteAP1]

Zeal is about 2,500 for Function X.

JIC is about 2,000
Tein flex about 1,700

if u can get a set of Zeal's that cheap i'll take 10 thanx, and seeing teins are going so damn cheap, ill take five.

These prices are for s2000 right? New/used???

Teamkiller being in Melb im limited to distributors in vic, again try these guys

G.T. Suspension Pty Ltd
137 Mt Alexander Rd
Flemington 3031
Phone: (03) 9376 0777
....Fax: (03) 9376 4158

http://www.gtsuspension.com.au/css/index.php\

Maybe they can put u on to someone in Syd, drop em an email.

Electro magnetic dampers, arent ferrari using those on the 599?

[WhiteAP1]

If you're referring to the Oz S2kI section forget it. Most don't have the intention of modifying their car at all.

If you want real information, frequent the rest of the forum.

The rest of the forum does have quite alot of useful info, but i wouldnt write off the entire AU section all together. Ive learnt more from 2 or 3 members in the S2ki AU section, than anyone or thing in this forum. I do admit there are a few that consider clear indicators and an OEM front lip as significant modification,but that doesnt mean you can find help there.

[teamkillerpe]

Thx whiteap1.

What product do u sell in vic?

[WhiteAP1]

Im not a retailer of any sort. Hunting around for certain parts has made me familiar with their distributors, thats all.

It seems ure having trouble finding/deciding on coilovers. My teins were in the right price range and they perform beyond any of my original expectations. Their adjustable, dampner and height, so if its too stiff u can simply change it, whilst driving if u opt for the EDFC. The type flex have provided me with hours of fun on the road, in the mountains and on the track. Prefect for a daily driver if u ask me. I admit billstein is a better quality product,but the teins more than do the job. Just my 2c...

[eriktufa]

I can get zeal function xs for 2k delivered.

[yourfather]

yeah man thats new price...

[WhiteAP1]

Those prices are crazy, when i was looking for coilovers the cheapest i found flex's were $2500, and the highest was $3k. Everyone i spoke to about Zeals wanted $3k and up.

Teamkiller i strongly recommend u make the most of those Zeals, especially for that price.

[teamkillerpe]

Eriktufa
is Zeal Function xs the 6 step adjustable suspension?
x is the 30 step right?
what spring rates is on them?
and.... $2000 delivered to sydney?

To everyone
is bilstein PSS9 about 2400?

[yourfather]

Those prices are crazy, when i was looking for coilovers the cheapest i found flex's were $2500, and the highest was $3k. Everyone i spoke to about Zeals wanted $3k and up.

Teamkiller i strongly recommend u make the most of those Zeals, especially for that price.

Yeah I got pissed off with people quoting me 800 bucks more than what I could get them for...

[Drew]

Yeah I tried to get yourfather some Teins from Fulcrum which are the Oz distributor but prices here are so inflated, I think it was like nearly an extra $800 here over ex Japan

You are better off getting them ex USA or Japan

[WhiteAP1]

Yeah I got pissed off with people quoting me 800 bucks more than what I could get them for...

LOL i dont blame you man.

[teamkillerpe]

I just got quoted almost 4k for the pss9...
if thats the price... i think i will toss between that and aragosta...

on the other hand...
JIC TAR 15 adj ~2100
Zeal function x 6 adj ~ 2000

half the price... but are they half the product?!
anymore comments guys?
i'm leaning towards JIC at the moment.... as ppl often say the zeal is squeaky and noisy....

[thebob]

JIC are very good.

[BOOSTD]

Hey guys i eventually ended up with buddyclub racing spec and they are great!!! i ordered them online for $2k delivered to my door str8 from japan in two weeks...but yeh great suspension..much better than teins (my opinion)....i actually bumped into someone who workd with buddyclub oz at parramatta autojoy and he had told me that i had the jap spec ones....i had no clue there were jap spec or oz spec for that matter ...dunno wat the diff is but i saved around $1000 ordering them online rather than a licenced supplier

[joey99]

I"Ve also heard that JICs are more popular in japan than tiens.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

which JIC model is good?

there are some on yahoo japan for about 90000-105000 yen....

[will.i.am]

go for Tein's... they'll never let you down, unless you wanna go LOW??? :)

[KLR-S2K]

I have a set of bilstein adjustable coilovers that i might part from my s2k as i am selling. only 15,000klm. Prob let go of them for $1200

[datzlr]

so anyone have experience with buddy clubs ? racing specs? and compare with N+?

[Ferrari]

I just got racing spec buddyclubs fitted. Havent done any real driving on them yet.

But they are nice so far.

I thought it would be unbearable stiffness. They are on five clicks and its firmer than stock, and a lot lower. Got to get an alignment, and tune them to suit.

[aka_NSX]

I just got racing spec buddyclubs fitted. Havent done any real driving on them yet.

But they are nice so far.

I thought it would be unbearable stiffness. They are on five clicks and its firmer than stock, and a lot lower. Got to get an alignment, and tune them to suit.

are you the one with red s2k got the sussy fitted @ Top One this afternoon ?

[Ferrari]

Thats me! Nice NSX.

[ludecrs]

You can buy Bilsein PSS for $3012 from any Supercheap Auto new.... or if you know someone there, you can get them for $2260 new.

Staff get a 25% discount, but I still think it may be overpriced?

[aka_NSX]

Thats me! Nice NSX.

nice s2k too :thumbsup: at first when I got there I thought is my friend coz he got the same colour and with black OEM wheels too but then I realise your muffler still stock, I heard there is a bit of problem to install it ? thats strange isn't it ? lucky Top One finally find the way to install it :D

[Ferrari]

Yeah, I dont know what the problem was, maybe thats why the buddyclub guys where there to assist.

[martin]

has anyone heard anything about these "megan coilovers" think they are 1000aud delivered from the states.

[vyets]

Megan = ebay brand =D
they get some good feedback from the rsx boys but.

[-parkes-]

I've been doing some research into suspension has well. I was 100% on JIC FLT-FAS but wanted to find out more info on the sort of suspension to get to suit what I wanted to do especially since it's a pretty decent investment. I came across this which pointed me in the right direction

Daily driver, occasional spirited driving, non-competition
Cusco Zero1
Tein Basics
Tein Comfort Sport

Spirited driving, occasional autocross and/or track day
Cusco Zero2
JIC FLT-FAS
Tein Flex

Spirited driving, canyon carving, mountain runs, drift days
Tein Super Drift

Avid autocrosser and track junkie
JIC FLT-TAR
Tein Monoflex

Competition-level racing
JIC FLT-RS Custom Setup
Tein Super Racing

Seems the JIC FLT-FAS is the way to go for me :thumbsup:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

some of the boys in the states who use the JIC coilovers complain the shocks blow easily...

[vyets]

Tein Super Drift?
Tein Monoflex is basically same thing as Tein Flex.
Flex is discontinued and now its called "monoflex"
For Competition level racing, one of the names that popup often is Moton.
And also in your research you seem to only have, cusco tein and jic.
Looked into Buddyclub? They always have good reviews, what about some Blisten? Kw var2 if your after a more street application?

[-parkes-]

I came across that info on another forum, so I can't comment on those other brands and liked how they broke it down into the different categories. Maybe we should build a chart like that with approximate prices for people to have a look at??

Thoughts?

[eriktufa]

Tein Super Drift?
Tein Monoflex is basically same thing as Tein Flex.
Flex is discontinued and now its called "monoflex"
For Competition level racing, one of the names that popup often is Moton.
And also in your research you seem to only have, cusco tein and jic.
Looked into Buddyclub? They always have good reviews, what about some Blisten? Kw var2 if your after a more street application?

Tein Flex is not the same as Monoflex, it's a better product. Monoflex is a monotube designed coilover as Flex was twintube.

Racing : Moton, SACHS, Penske, JRZ just to name few :P, they are very expensive.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

ohlins and quantum. personally if i had the money id be aiming at the ones with the external reservoirs....

[vyets]

Yeap, I know, would still call it the "new" flex lol. Monoflex looks better anyway, has a better green colour too it lol.

External resevoirs ftw! However it's a bit of a pain to get to the tanks to adjust them, I have to get on the fly and try squeeze half my body under my car, looking like an idiot lol.

What about HSD for the S2000? They have good reviews from the driftboys, wonder how they would do for the s2000. Talking about the HT series of corse :P The spring rates are 10k 10k.

I think the Ohlins only have the reseviors at the rear yes? Not sure on that one.

[na]

that's old ohlins...PCV

the new one is monotube...DFV...im using it...

[.::F[L]Y::.]

NICE! ^^ how do you find it???

[na]

japan...u want a set? aud is good now...prolly ard 3k landed...

[teamkillerpe]

At the end, I got a set of JICs FLT-FAS for 1700.
At the moment... its alot stiffer, but mostly comfortable... but i guess... its also because I've put on all the strut bars, under bars and thicker antiroll bars...
Turn in is sharper now and the tail more controllable... don't snap away as much now.
I will be taking it down to wakefield in early april to have a run.
If anyone interested, when I know the exact day, u r welcome to join!

Still regretting abit not buying the aragosta... (had to pay some other expenses and dried up my wallet....)

Currently looking at getting an LSD and final gear.
Abit off topic... but anyone tried the carbonetic LSD?

and... whiteAP1... can u tell me more about the Kia Final gear - where to get (at kia parts?) - any other parts needed to fit?

Cheers every1!

[STiR]

I know from our STi R that the bilstein PSS9s are an extremely good unit, hopefully I'll be able to give you guys some feedback from the s2000 with them soon.

Shiraz

[ordinary]

At the end, I got a set of JICs FLT-FAS for 1700.
At the moment... its alot stiffer, but mostly comfortable... but i guess... its also because I've put on all the strut bars, under bars and thicker antiroll bars...
Turn in is sharper now and the tail more controllable... don't snap away as much now.
I will be taking it down to wakefield in early april to have a run.
If anyone interested, when I know the exact day, u r welcome to join!

Still regretting abit not buying the aragosta... (had to pay some other expenses and dried up my wallet....)

Currently looking at getting an LSD and final gear.
Abit off topic... but anyone tried the carbonetic LSD?

and... whiteAP1... can u tell me more about the Kia Final gear - where to get (at kia parts?) - any other parts needed to fit?

Cheers every1!

Where did you get the JICs from? Seems like a good price... What are the spring rates? And finally, does it come with top mounts etc?

[teamkillerpe]

My friend ordered a set of JICs from the nissan forum, and I placed an order together.
The spring rate I have is F8 R10.
It only comes with non-adjustable top mount... (for the same price the S15's unit comes with fully adjustable top mount... wtf!)

[ordinary]

My friend ordered a set of JICs from the nissan forum, and I placed an order together.
The spring rate I have is F8 R10.
It only comes with non-adjustable top mount... (for the same price the S15's unit comes with fully adjustable top mount... wtf!)

Which user/shop on the forum?

Sux that they still change the same with or without the camber tops - not cool. Either they make extra off them or they cost very little make...

[h17am]

Abit off topic... but anyone tried the carbonetic LSD?



I'm using the Carbonetics LSD. Best LSD I've used. It's silent. It has the highest torque transfer rating of all the LSDs I've seen. In short, it's great.

The only drawback is the price of the oil I'm using. Neo Synth oil isn't cheap...

[.::F[L]Y::.]

anyone using these?? or links to reviews on them? interested to know how low they can go....

http://img315.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/8/8/2/9/tsstotigi2000-img600x401-1210212690spoon1.jpg

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

I hear the Ohlins are supposed to be very good, I've been researching these for a few days.... I still don't know enough about them so back to my reading

You can buy Ohlins for S2000 with new Aluminium Cylinder for around $2700AUD from Japan or the Flag-S for S2000 for $4200

I love the Japanese websites translated into english, they are just so incoherent, fun to read though!

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ yahoo auction pricing?

there was a set of Ohlin DFV on yahoo for $1300 or so.

btw, did you end up buying the ones on s2ki.com? the guy told me spring rates were 14/12

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

Nah, there was a Jap website that I got these off.... I can find website if u want?

Yeah, I did, we will see how the spring rates fair up for everyday driving! What u think? :D

[.::F[L]Y::.]

i had 14/12 on my old integra...had them on for 1 day :(

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

Y::.;1744085']i had 14/12 on my old integra...had them on for 1 day :(

LOL - If worse comes to worse, I will change to diff s/rates

[STiR]

It all gets expensive that way. With prices on yahoo auctions add 10-20% japanese broker fee, Japanese domestic shipping, freight to Australia, then taxes etc. While OHLINS are a quality name and are well known, you should be more interested in finding out which specific coilovers are known to work really well with your car. Go for tried and tested solutions. I would recommend you look into TODA Fightex DA and Bilstein PSS9. DMS are excellent but not sure about honda applications.

[vyets]

My coil-overs are 12kg/12kg and they are fine, I've even ran them on the stiffest setting for daily driving without a problem and the road to my house is one of the worse. It also depends on the damper as well, I had d2 coilovers on my old celica, and it was alot more bumpy and rough then the coilovers on my s2000 atm.

DMS coils are great, I wouldnt excatly say they are affordable, neither are they worth if for a street driven car, hardly even woth it for a car that goes track less then 5 times a year.

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

My coil-overs are 12kg/12kg and they are fine, I've even ran them on the stiffest setting for daily driving without a problem and the road to my house is one of the worse. It also depends on the damper as well, I had d2 coilovers on my old celica, and it was alot more bumpy and rough then the coilovers on my s2000 atm.

DMS coils are great, I wouldnt excatly say they are affordable, neither are they worth if for a street driven car, hardly even woth it for a car that goes track less then 5 times a year.

I was worried that when I get the coil overs with a 14kg/12kg setting that they would be too hard. But seeing that I have also been reading that there are a lot of factors that attribute to the overall feel of the end result I've been left a little 'less' stressed about the decision that I have made to buy my coilovers.

Sorry for hijacking the thread like this. Hopefully this feedback will help you with your choice mate.

[STiR]

The most significant determining factor as to how well coilovers will work and how the car will perform with them is how well the springs and dampers work together. Some coilovers with 'high' spring rates will feel much better on the road than others with 'lower' spring raters, it all depends on how well the springs and matched to the shocks and vice versa. I had 14k/8k on my suzuki ignis sport and at low speeds its a little bouncy (car only weighs 935kg) but at speed the handling and roadholding is phenomenal. As I said, go with tried and tested...and get them set up properly...PM me if you're in Melbourne and need an excellent place to get your suspension set up.

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

The most significant determining factor as to how well coilovers will work and how the car will perform with them is how well the springs and dampers work together. Some coilovers with 'high' spring rates will feel much better on the road than others with 'lower' spring raters, it all depends on how well the springs and matched to the shocks and vice versa. I had 14k/8k on my suzuki ignis sport and at low speeds its a little bouncy (car only weighs 935kg) but at speed the handling and roadholding is phenomenal. As I said, go with tried and tested...and get them set up properly...PM me if you're in Melbourne and need an excellent place to get your suspension set up.

I'm in Sydney. Know of anyone?

[Ferrari]

Heisemans in Sydenham.

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

Thanks MAD. btw.. congrats on your engagement :D

[.::F[L]Y::.]

MAD is engaged?

congrats man

[BaSsMaXiMuS]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/MAD828/IMG_9393.jpg
YUmmmmmmyy, fiance drove my car, whilst I was in the civic sounds awesome outside the car.

It looks that way... :D

[BlueBeast]

Did you end up getting the coilovers. If not there's a guy in 'sale' section selling PSS9 for the s2k for around $2K or so. From my personal experience, some of the best coilovers available.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ some people consider them abit 'soft' also if you like your car 'slammed' then they dont do the job either.

[Ferrari]

Y::.;1745447']MAD is engaged?

congrats man

Thankyou guys, popped the question Xmas eve.

[STiR]

If you really drive your car hard then nothing that some eibach uprated springs can't fix. The Bilstein shocks are top quality, next time I have to buy coilovers for a car they'll be bilsteins for sure.


Y::.;1745663']^^ some people consider them abit 'soft' also if you like your car 'slammed' then they dont do the job either.

[eriktufa]

+1 on PSS9 as I have them :)

[ROLLED]

+1 on PSS9 as I have them :)

-1 cos you keep trying to unload them onto me! LOL

[ROLLED]

Y::.;1745447']MAD is engaged?

congrats man

Congrats man :D

btw the NFR is looking pimping hot! get it out on track asap!

[ludecrs]

Alrighty, a coilover thread for the S2000.

This will likely be my next purchase in the coming month's time.

Looking at buying the Bilstein PSS9's, but could be swayed to say T1R or Jic coils too.

What I want to know is, what would you guys recommend for spring rates F&R for my S?

ATM the car is just used on weekends, but I do intend to do some light track duties in the near future when the car is more 'complete' - aka coilovers + more boost etc!

So, AU conditions, weekender, light track work, height and damper adjustible, with a budget of about.... $1700ish I guess.

Looking for feedback, general input, and your thoughts.

[vyets]

It's been covered afew times now.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2145901
Read around.

Bilstein Pss9's would be better then the JIC and T1R. Only thing is people say they are abit soft for the track.

If you car is only a weekender why not get some more hardcore coilovers. You got the power get the suspension, Moton, JRZ or some not as hardcore Ohlins, Kw V3's or Jdm style BC RSD, Tein SRC.
I have a daily civic, but my s2000 gets driven more then just on weekends and I run 12kg springsrates and they are fine. I want to upgrade to new coils soon, but some other parts are more important at the moment.

[ludecrs]

It's been covered afew times now.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2145901
Read around.

Didn't think we had a proper coilover thread!
My bad - I'll merge them :thumbsup:




EDIT: I know there's plenty of you guys out their with coils in your cars. Speak up! haha. I'd like some first hand info and feedback before I go clicking the Buy button.

[eriktufa]

PSS9:

Comes with blue springs (updated since the last version came with red springs).

Spring rate: F 6 kg/mm (330 lbs/ft) and R 5 kg/mm (245 lbs/ft).

Damper adjustment is pretty linear from 9-2 until the stiffest setting (1) as it makes the suspension rock hard but it can be soft... depending on the damper setting.

PSS9 won't allow you to slammed the car as there is a limitation of how low it can go, about 1 finger at the rear and half finger at the front.

Body roll is still noticeable since it has low spring rate but it all depends on the swaybar thickness as well.

Hope that helps

Now, click the Buy Button :)

Erik

[Ferrari]

I highly recommend the buddyclub RSD, but they are out of the $1700 range.

Mine are great for daily, I have a civic to drive daily, but the S is too tempting. I can slam the car if I want as the height doesnt affect the dampening, its dual adjust. Very firm spring rates, but I really like them.

I have the whiteline front sway, with the RSD and RE001, Im more than happy with the improvement over stock.

[ludecrs]

How much are the RSD's?

I don't want to spend more than $2K. I'm trying to cut down on my S2K spendings lately so if I can keep it below $2K, I'll be happy.

[ludecrs]

Spring rates are what I want to know the most about.

I'm curious whats people are running in our AU road condtions etc.

Higher the number, harder the dampener, but I want comfort, height adjustability, and damper adjustability.

Everyone keeps telling me PSS9 and KW V3!!! LOL. But then that brings me back to the spring rates..... whats a good spring rating to use in my situation?

[vyets]

Use anything above 10kg. And the higher the number doesn't mean the dampers are harder. Some coils might have real low springrates, but their dampers are shocking which make the coil rough and crap.

Don't worry about comfort mate!! It's a weekender, but seriously PSS9's are best for your situation, and probably the best coil for that price range.

[civicem1]

I'm thinking about purchasing coilovers too. Does anybody have pictures of the S with pss9 coilovers lowered to its maximum setting? Purchasing coilovers for the S seems pretty misleading as not many people feedback about them and first hand information is limited. Hows the tein monoflex compare to other coilovers mentioned by vyet? I had a set on my civic and was pretty pleased by the amount I could lower the vehicle by.

[Ferrari]

Mine are 10k front and rear. For the spring rates. I got mine from JDM yard. They list at 2.5 k, may be able to source cheaper from him, I know I did.

[blusir2]

i always recommend TODA fightex as they are very very good. I had a set of dual adjust on my EG civic.

the dampener has excellent control and they are also separately adjustable, height and spring adjustment are totally independent.

dampening force very good and also the spring rates are right for s2000's.

I would recommend 10kg front and back for spring rates. going too hard is no good for the road conditions in Oz.

civicem1: u dun really wanna lower the s2000 too much.. the rear drive shafts will wear really fast and u will hear a clicking noise coz they aren't centred in the diff properly due to the angle of the drive shaft. u will need plates to bring the drive shafts in more, J's racing and Spoon make them. then also u gotta think about bump steer. so lowering to the max is not the best idea dude..

[Ferrari]

I have driven two dropped s2ks, and they handled like shit. It throws everything off.

[blusir2]

I have driven two dropped s2ks, and they handled like shit. It throws everything off.

exactly.... ur 100% correct Ferrari.. they are low already and have a good balance of weight 50/50 and a low centre of gravity..

lowering it too much will just ruin a S2000... u lose speed and cornering capabilities... no point driving it then huh??? max would be to lower it 2.5inches from stock... with good coil overs it will still handle relatively well.. unless u got all the diff plates and bump steer brackets then thats a diff story...

agree with u hands down dude..

[ROLLED]

I'm quite sure you can source Buddyclub RSD off ebay for around $1300USD + shipping etc, it should still be under $2000. I'm not convinced by Buddyclub's quality nor their customer service in Australia, so do not let that be a determining factor.

As someone stated before, the spring rates don't mean a great deal. It's to do with the valving of the shocks etc. If you look at the KW V3 and the KW CS, they both use 515lbs/in springs (9.2kg/mm approx.), although the CS are valved towards being a more track focussed application, hence the harsher ride on the streets.

On another note, I read on s2ki that KW make the most of valving to achieve what they want from a coilover whilst getting away with the lowest spring rate possible.

Ferrari: How much lower than stock do you have your car now? And have you added any supporting mods such as a BSK, RCA, drive shaft spacers etc? I trust your opinion on the handling side of things!!

blusir2: everytime a thread like this comes up you are always banging on about the Toda Fightex DA coilovers. Have you got a set on your s2000? If not, then why are you recommending them to members here? I have also yet to read any review from anyone on these coilovers, please enlighten me if you know of any. Also Brad is after coilovers around $2000, I'm quite sure the Toda coils are over $3000.

I think for the price range it's hard to go past the KW V3s (provided you can get a good deal), the PSS9s are not that much cheaper. End of the day both are top quality German made suspension. I'll report back on the former shortly though :)

[blusir2]

Rolled: i have driven and sat in one that has TODA Fightex. Also as i have mentioned I owned a set that i had on my civic. That is why i recommend them. Not to say that they are not expensive. But from what i know and the different coil overs i have owned I thought they were the best.
Just trying to help and give my opinion and experience.. I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours... need to relax dude...

the spring rates do serve a purpose, they are the basic parts of your coil over suspension system which will give you the bound and rebound, what the shock does is control the rate at which it will bound and rebound after going over a bump or groove in the ground... hence the difference in spring rates... normally the heavier the car the heavier the spring to counter act the weight of the car.. that is why they HAVE different spring rates.. there is a purpose..

eg. they have a spec for the spring like 10kg/mm this means you have to put a load of 10kgs on the spring before it will compress 1mm. So when you go over a bump your coil-over spring will travel in comparison to that idea. What the shock does is control that rate, coz you obviously dun want it to rebound at a un-controlled rate otherwise the car will handle erratically. If your spring rate is lower though then the speed at which the spring will rebound is lower as it is not as hard as one with a higher spring rate. So the car will feel a bit more loose after going over bumps, like it travels more in the vertical direction.
The shock is very important like the other guys have said but the spring rate should not be neglected in your decision. It makes the difference between a harder and less harder ride. If you choose a hard spring and your shocks aren't up to the controlling of them then the ride will be compromised. Normally the factory recommended rate is suitable for the shock. 10kgs is what a lot of manufacturers recommend for a sporty/race ride.. thats from Tein and Toda that i know of anyway. i saw others recommending it too...

hope i have been correct in explaining and maybe helped u a bit...

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Toda coilovers arnt exactly for everyone imo. they are super expensive! such a waste on Aussie roads.

Has anyone here experienced KW variant 3???

[ROLLED]

give me a week Fly :D

[ludecrs]

Does anybody have pictures of the S with pss9 coilovers lowered to its maximum setting?

A whole thread on s2ki about PSS9 vs KW V3 height settings:
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=621484

[vyets]

I'm thinking about purchasing coilovers too. Does anybody have pictures of the S with pss9 coilovers lowered to its maximum setting? Purchasing coilovers for the S seems pretty misleading as not many people feedback about them and first hand information is limited. Hows the tein monoflex compare to other coilovers mentioned by vyet? I had a set on my civic and was pretty pleased by the amount I could lower the vehicle by.

Don't know mate I got Tein RS not monoflex, they are totally different.
Adjustability is good, but sometimes not soo great. My coils have alot of adjustment but I havn't been able to found a very good setup yet. On the street it's usless to adjust you just dont have enough road to feel the difference. It's alot of playing around especially with the remote resivor tanks.
Ahh ludacrs beat me too it with the kw and pss9 thread.

There are heaps of first hand feedback from the usa. One guy Stinkytofu has tested afew diffrent coils on his s2000, but all the ratings are more to do with track then street. As you all know any coil will do for the street.

It's not just the s2000 that will handle crap if its dropped on its ass, most cars are like that. But that doesn't mean lowsetup cars are always crap, with the right settings testing and research you could have a very powerful low setup. The J's racing ap1 had a very low setup yet handled very well and had no problems with the bumps on the touge, but of corse.. they are professionals :)

I've only heard good things about the Toda coils, but I havn't seen anyone with them on a s2000 and they real expensive too, maybe they're up there with the motons and jrz but they cost an arm and a leg lol.

[ROLLED]

Maybe look into RCAs & BSKs as well as the steering rack heighteners for a dumped s2k...They are not cheap though.

[ludecrs]

Might have a set of KW V3's for cheap from the US.

Couldn't pass up on the price ; so we'll see.