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Am i allowed to scan magazine tech articles and put them on the forum?
i have a few magazines laying around with articles that can answer peoples questions like difference between intercoolers etc..
panda[cRx]
22-02-2007, 09:27 PM
as long as you provide full reference i dont see the problem with it
some others have a more anal view on things
who's head honcho around here?
Am i allowed to scan magazine tech articles and put them on the forum?
i have a few magazines laying around with articles that can answer peoples questions like difference between intercoolers etc..
No you can't unless you get permission from the copyright owner. If we said yes - what would stop people from scanning up full car magazines for everyone to look at? You can imagine what the publishers would think of that - lost profits...You don't need to speak to the head honcho - this is already covered in our terms and conditions.
what if i scan it host it elsewhere and provide a link?
then the ball is in my court?? or is the forum still farked?
they are like 3 years old and no longer on sale if that makes a difference
yourfather
22-02-2007, 09:37 PM
No you can't unless you get permission from the copyright owner. If we said yes - what would stop people from scanning up full car magazines for everyone to look at? You can imagine what the publishers would think of that - lost profits...You don't need to speak to the head honcho - this is already covered in our terms and conditions.
i thought if it was for educational purposes and constituted less than 10% of the size of the magazine or source it was ok
yeh like i said they are old over 2-3 years old. So i dont see any profit loss, if anything it will promote the magazine by people seeing they actually provide good information.
Anyway let me know, i dont call the shots.
yourfather
22-02-2007, 09:42 PM
"writing" means a mode of representing or reproducing words, figures or symbols in a visible form, and written has a corresponding meaning. (1A) Without limiting the meaning of the expression educational purposes in this Act (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/sbsa1991254/), a copy (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s10.html#copy) of the whole or a part of a work (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s189.html#work) or other subject‑matter shall be taken, for the purposes of the provision in which the expression appears, to have been made, used or retained, as the case may be, for the educational purposes of an educational institution (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s135a.html#institution) if:
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NOW ~ ISSUES
1) i am not a lawyer
2) It says for educational purposes. but I dunno if that means its limited to educational institutions.
what if i scan it host it elsewhere and provide a link?
then the ball is in my court?? or is the forum still farked?
Hyperlinking is also problematic as this is published material we are talking about so lost profits are at stake (read litigation potential). Unless it falls within one of the exemptions under copyright legislation it is an issue. Scanning and posting it up for the whole world to read is not an exempt activity..
yourfather
22-02-2007, 09:45 PM
post it in the lounge where only members can read than
i thought if it was for educational purposes and constituted less than 10% of the size of the magazine or source it was ok
Educational purposes has a specific meaning - posting items on a forum for the entire world to read is stretching that definition too far.
post it in the lounge where only members can read than
and how does that prevent it being a breach of Copyright?
yourfather
22-02-2007, 09:47 PM
because lounge isnt available to general public
and
(1A) Without limiting the meaning of the expression educational purposes in this Act (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/sbsa1991254/), a copy (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s10.html#copy) of the whole or a part of a work (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s189.html#work) or other subject‑matter shall be taken, for the purposes of the provision in which the expression appears, to have been made, used or retained, as the case may be, for the educational purposes of an educational institution (http://www.austlii.edu.au//cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s135a.html#institution) if:
Ozhonda is not an educational institution and there is nothing in the Copyright act that exempts infringing items that are only open to a class of persons. Sorry guys - it is really no different from me posting up Microsoft Vista for everyone to download. The copyright act doesn't draw much of a distinction between my example and what you propose to do.
nah its cool, doesnt worry me either way, just though id help out a few people.
Anyway Saves me from scanning, resizing etc.. :p
nah its cool, doesnt worry me either way, just though id help out a few people.
Anyway Saves me from scanning, resizing etc.. :p
Yeah it would be great to post up car show videos, magazines, etc but it is just too much of a risk for the forum owner.
wynode
22-02-2007, 10:21 PM
Sorted :)
yourfather
22-02-2007, 10:23 PM
:| i was trying to help
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