Civic Type R is coming!

[MKI4EVA]

oh are they at the dealerships already?

kool.

[EK4R]

oh are they at the dealerships already?

kool.

na man. melbourne motorshow. i asked the chick (with massive unproportional implants) when its coming, she said june-july.

[MKI4EVA]

na man. melbourne motorshow. i asked the chick (with massive unproportional implants) when its coming, she said june-july.


oh oops...........just read the article in motor mag.........won't be here till dec more like cause production delays as is already with 4 month waiting list in europe.

[SPEEDCORE]

Is the Melb Motorshow on all this week still? Comming down for F1 tomorrow and want to see this thing in the flesh. GF is getting antsy about it!

[EK4R]

Is the Melb Motorshow on all this week still? Comming down for F1 tomorrow and want to see this thing in the flesh. GF is getting antsy about it!

finishes today at 6pm unfortunately.

where abouts are you? the car is going to syd on Wednesday for a show at some shopping centre.

[Aratahu]

Hey great pictures! This part of your web site can't be right though ...

"Plus, it’s got to be the strongest 2.0 naturally aspirated engine ever built."

What about the s2000?!

Ooops. Talking through my bum obviously :) Have corrected the intro now, thanks mate :)

[Aratahu]

has anyone got a closer look of the brake caliper? tnx


These are my best shots of it... together they give you a view, sort of :)

http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2133.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2098.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2123.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2105.jpg

[MKI4EVA]

These are my best shots of it... together they give you a view, sort of :)

http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2133.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2098.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2123.jpg
http://funkdancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc_2105.jpg

the more I look at this car the more I think it'll be sold at a very good entry price.

will wait post top gear/best motoring test to bag it further....jk!!!

[crx51]

OOh difficult to comment on. I just read through every post on this thread. Crazy the amount of interest it has stirred here. It'll sell and sell pretty well. We do miss out on things a bit here in Aus but what can ya do? Move to Japan? I dont mind this car, it wont age too quickly, pretty futuristic look. I LOVE the interior but the rest i just think its a nice car. A nice car i wouldnt buy but would like to go cruising in if a mate of mine bought it. Times have changed, cars must have 4 airbags these days to be seen as safe, they also must have all sorts of electronic interventions... I would love to see the engine put in something lighter, unfortunately probably wont happen.

How bout shortened platform
no back seats
only the 2 front airbags
and then some more type r treatment, (firewall removal or thinning etc)
and we call it the new CRX!!!
Surely if they keep to two seats they could make something safe with most of the luxuries required and keep it to no more than 1100kg?? That would be a car for me!

[IAMVTEC]

I dont think theres anything too special about the interest for this car. The interest is just because there hasnt been a new Honda model in so long.

(CRV doesnt count, it is just an upgrade and suvs are never exciting)

[turbo convert]

its u.g.l.y
what where they thinking with the domed back looks like something homer simpson would build.

[IAMVTEC]

its u.g.l.y
what where they thinking with the domed back looks like something homer simpson would build.

hahaha :thumbsup:

[sitta]

oh oops...........just read the article in motor mag.........won't be here till dec more like cause production delays as is already with 4 month waiting list in europe.

where did you get this from? because i ordered one already and i dont think i can wait that long...:thumbdwn:

[gmanz]

Spotted Civic Type-R at Chatswood Chase. Only had my phone with me so pics are average.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gmanz/DSC00549.JPGhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/gmanz/DSC00548.JPG

[wassup]

Took a few pics of the Type-R that was on display at Chatswood Chase today.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2891/dsc02006fq9.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02006fq9.jpg)http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6471/dsc02023xo1.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02023xo1.jpg)http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8097/dsc02026xk2.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02026xk2.jpg)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1387/dsc02029oz9.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02029oz9.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4917/dsc02031tw7.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02031tw7.jpg)http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7959/dsc02034is9.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02034is9.jpg)

Interior.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9459/dsc02039vx0.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02039vx0.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1743/dsc02040vh7.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02040vh7.jpg)

Type-R Brake callipers.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/368/dsc02021vi2.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02021vi2.jpg)

Sneaky picture of the exhaust system.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1681/dsc02011fh2.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02011fh2.jpg)

Australian Fuel consumption rating sticker.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7159/dsc02043xp7.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02043xp7.jpg)

[aaronng]

Thanks for the pics!

[2002 TeGgY]

Spotted Civic Type-R at Chatswood Chase. Only had my phone with me so pics are average.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gmanz/DSC00549.JPGhttp://members.optusnet.com.au/gmanz/DSC00548.JPG

i reckon silver looks good, better than red anyway

[MKI4EVA]

where did you get this from? because i ordered one already and i dont think i can wait that long...:thumbdwn:

motor mag dude.........have a read.

UK is only factory producing for europe and aust.

what delivery date did they tell you?

[MKI4EVA]

Took a few pics of the Type-R that was on display at Chatswood Chase today.


What did you think of it seeing it in person?

[Hullabaloo]

Does anyone know what rubber comes on it?

[crx51]

Does anyone know what rubber comes on it?

I could only hazard a guess but it seems many of the new hot hatches are coming with continental sport contact 2's..

[z3lda]

07 peugeot 207 gti > 07 ctr

[Spicey]

^ sif

[z3lda]

looks better and is cheaper

[IAMVTEC]

LOL Peugeot suck ass. Your ears will be fall off riding in that.

[Zdster]

Thanks for sharing the pics. Looks pretty good in silver.

Can someone tell me what the two things are in the picture?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1064/untitled1yu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I take it one hooks to the bottom of the belt, but why isnt it on a pivot and what is the second thing?

[MKI4EVA]

Does anyone know what rubber comes on it?


Home`De^ Nang Kangs............in partnership with the French boxes.

Even Talibs dirty cheap R888 wont help this mofo hit the apex.

[MKI4EVA]

07 peugeot 207 gti > 07 ctr


And I thought I've been insulting this car.

[UNLS1]

it will be here june/july

[QuintessentiaLs]

and where did you get that release date from???

[EK4R]

^^ that was quoted from the ppl at the show when the was was being exhibited.

silver looks borring. too common a colour. red is nice, plus add some black tones to it would look sexy :) . black wins stills...

[turbo convert]

notice how nobody takes pictures from the bacl:thumbdwn:

[EK4R]

notice how nobody takes pictures from the bacl:thumbdwn:

cos it doesnt fit in the camera :eek:

but it does look good in person tho :cool:

[UNLS1]

and where did you get that release date from???

dont mind me im only a dealer....

there wont be many around, so if ur keen put ir deposit down!

dont expect a big discount either!

[MKI4EVA]

would make a good car for a girl just out of HS on her red - P's.

[QuintessentiaLs]

dont mind me im only a dealer....

there wont be many around, so if ur keen put ir deposit down!

dont expect a big discount either!

Can I buy from you then? hahaha where you based lol

[wassup]

What did you think of it seeing it in person?

Well for me seeing it in person only reinforced my feeling that its a one good looking car.

Anyone interested in an 06 Sport? heheheh

[krazibone]

Didn't like it at first but the look of the car will start to grow on you after a while and i would have to agree with most that black does look the best but apparently red in real life looks pretty good as well compared to the pictures.

I've been camping the english civic type r forums (civictype-r.co.uk) and everyone whose just got their car are loving it. All reviews from leading magazines such as what car?, auto express, top gear and autocar have given the car a very decent rating except Evo. It looks like they considered build and handling in most of the tests because the type r came last out of the 4 cars tested ( MPS, Gti, Cupra and type-r) when it came to lap times and 0 - 100 kph.

Also cost wise.. UNLS1 if you are a dealer do you know how much these things are going for? as i'm abit confused at the moment since its about 18600 in the UK for a GT and converting that to AUS its about 45-46k which is almost equivalent to a Golf Gti with DSG.

[MKI4EVA]

46K for a gti is with leathers and HID on road......

what did evo not like it?........

[krazibone]

Some links for the keen readers:

First drive => http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2704690

4 Car review + video => http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/honda/civic/1382/2

Autocar review => http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsHistory/Honda-Civic-2.0-i-VTEC-Type-R/223991/

Timesonline review => http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/new_car_reviews/article1324001.ece

Alot of reviews from normal consumers that had an EP3 and comparing it to the current can be found at civictype-r.co.uk but you need to register to view their forums.

Couldn't find the link for Evo sorry but apparently i think its the same comment like most, it doesn't deserve the R badge.

[Spicey]

How does it compare to an EP3????

[sitta]

i ordered one alread, the dealer said they are getting 3 in june and 2 everymonth after that and ill bethe first one to have it in june yeah!!

[krazibone]

Oh thats nice. How much did you pay for it? Was it a GT or normal?

[fasthonda]

....................Also cost wise.. UNLS1 if you are a dealer do you know how much these things are going for? as i'm abit confused at the moment since its about 18600 in the UK for a GT and converting that to AUS its about 45-46k which is almost equivalent to a Golf Gti with DSG.

I was told at the Melbourne Motor show $38K to $43k.If they can keep the base CTR under $40K ,I believe that it will be competitive.

[krazibone]

I was told at the Melbourne Motor show $38K to $43k.If they can keep the base CTR under $40K ,I believe that it will be competitive.

Yeh it sounds about right as a base model Gti is about 39-40k. It looks like cars sold in the UK seem to be abit more expensive if that is the case.

[EK4R]

so what, we are getting normal and GT versions now??? i thought thats only in the UK and AUS have only one version..

[sitta]

Oh thats nice. How much did you pay for it? Was it a GT or normal?

they know nothing about the versions yet i think the options will be listed when the price comes out. They havent told me the price yet all i know is that it is within 38-43. I paid 1000 to order the car

[krazibone]

I'm pretty sure they will have 2 versions.

Type-R:

18" allow wheels
Unique Type R sports suspension
Body coloured front and rear spoilers with lower side skirts
Type R chrome kick plates
Aluminium pedals
Dual Zone dashboard
Leather steering wheel with red stitching
Unique Type R serial number
Red engine start button
i-VTEC rev indicator
Multi-function driver computer
Stereo CD tuner
Steering wheel mounted audio controls


The Type-R GT comes with all the above and:

Fog lights
Cruise control
Curtain airbags
Duel zone climate control
Automatic head lights with dusk sensor
Automatic rain sensing wipers
Power folding door mirrors

If you go http://www.civictyper.com.au there is a video on the australian launch and it was noted that what we see in europe is what we also get in aus.

[MKI4EVA]

When the Megane first came out I thought it was ugly.........but now the cup versions look quite hot.

Hope things change for the R...........such a shame our first civic R starts off on the back foot IMO.

[Perry]

Can anyone comfirm the quote price for the CTR coz I asked one of the sales i know from homebush honda and he cant give me a proper figure its ranging from 40-50K i was like WTF

[euro69]

u be looking at $42000 give or take a few hundred drive away....
in june.....

[MKI4EVA]

Can anyone comfirm the quote price for the CTR coz I asked one of the sales i know from homebush honda and he cant give me a proper figure its ranging from 40-50K i was like WTF


Perry I don't think TODA supports K-series builds as yet.

[wassup]

Can anyone comfirm the quote price for the CTR coz I asked one of the sales i know from homebush honda and he cant give me a proper figure its ranging from 40-50K i was like WTF

Did some digging around and found out that even at Honda HQ there is no firm price. Currently they're deciding on the equipement list, things like dual zone climate control, 6 speaker stereo etc. No one knows the retail price for the Oz model yet and the best estimate is $39k-$44k.

There is talk that there's only going to be an initial run of 1000.....

There was a Honda dealer meeting last week and from that a fax went out for Civic allocation.... i heard some dealers responded to this fax within 5mins!

[krazibone]

I'm guessing 38k - 44k with all the features but if its hitting the 45k mark you are better off with a golf gti.

Base model for a Golf gti is about 39-40k for it to be competitive it has to be lower then that.

[Perry]

Perry I don't think TODA supports K-series builds as yet.

hahaha lol They do laaa

[Perry]

I'm guessing 38k - 44k with all the features but if its hitting the 45k mark you are better off with a golf gti.

Base model for a Golf gti is about 39-40k for it to be competitive it has to be lower then that.

agreed :(

[MKI4EVA]

hahaha lol They do laaa


sell your car and get the CTR perry........mite as well bro........the other cars you were aiming at was almost in that price range anyhow.

[Perry]

sell your car and get the CTR perry........mite as well bro........the other cars you were aiming at was almost in that price range anyhow.

hahaha I need to buy something that I cant mod

[aaronng]

I'm guessing 38k - 44k with all the features but if its hitting the 45k mark you are better off with a golf gti.

Base model for a Golf gti is about 39-40k for it to be competitive it has to be lower then that.

If it comes with the 6-stacker, climate control, curtain airbags and power folding mirrors, then it's more worth it than a GTI.

[MKI4EVA]

hahaha I need to buy something that I cant mod


wow.......can't belive you still want to mod. OEM is the name of the game you will soon see...........hehehhehe.

[QuintessentiaLs]

Also another option is the freezing thing in the glove box... I've seen some pics online where the lights are HID... Does anyone know for sure if it is or not??? and some of the don't have the Type R badge at the front grille???

[NightRyder]

Perry,
knowing you, you would find any way to mod a car. :P
Why not I suggest an Evo, it comes rally-bred anyway and you won't need to mod because it is fully tuned already. :)


hahaha I need to buy something that I cant mod

[Perry]

Perry,
knowing you, you would find any way to mod a car. :P
Why not I suggest an Evo, it comes rally-bred anyway and you won't need to mod because it is fully tuned already. :)

haha honestly yes I'll find ways to mod, but honestly I would like to stick with a honda a new 4dr ctr would be good

Evo sounds good But I'll go down the same route like I am now its a addiction I cant control lol

Here's a link which i got from another forum about the 4dr CTR

http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=1717

[industrie]

with on road costs added im thinking 42K drive away..

[NightRyder]

I personally would prefer the 4dr CTR as well. Has everything you need.

Well..you could just buy the '07 civic and mod that to look like the JDM 4dr CTR! :D



haha honestly yes I'll find ways to mod, but honestly I would like to stick with a honda a new 4dr ctr would be good

Evo sounds good But I'll go down the same route like I am now its a addiction I cant control lol

Here's a link which i got from another forum about the 4dr CTR

http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=1717

[Perry]

I personally would prefer the 4dr CTR as well. Has everything you need.

Well..you could just buy the '07 civic and mod that to look like the JDM 4dr CTR! :D

ahahhah back to square one again for me if I doo

[NightRyder]

dude, I must say you seem to have a lot of disposable income eh?..hahaha

look, just trade/sell your imo EK CTR and buy a real one, then get your gf to keep your money so that it could go to buying a house for yourself and her.

hahahaha......it's a smart move... :p


ahahhah back to square one again for me if I doo

[Perry]

dude, I must say you seem to have a lot of disposable income eh?..hahaha

look, just trade/sell your imo EK CTR and buy a real one, then get your gf to keep your money so that it could go to buying a house for yourself and her.

hahahaha......it's a smart move... :p

sounds a good idea I must agree :thumbsup:

[NightRyder]

Good, now do it... :cool:


sounds a good idea I must agree :thumbsup:

[krazibone]

If it comes with the 6-stacker, climate control, curtain airbags and power folding mirrors, then it's more worth it than a GTI.


Not when the Gti has dsg and the same features as a GT.

[aaronng]

Not when the Gti has dsg and the same features as a GT.

So what if it has DSG? To me, 6MT > DSG. Why? Because I can use aftermarket clutches and a lightweight flywheel with the 6MT.

[krazibone]

So what if it has DSG? To me, 6MT > DSG. Why? Because I can use aftermarket clutches and a lightweight flywheel with the 6MT.

Well to you 6MT > DSG but not everyone drives a manual and it is faster then the manual version. In terms of value for money i don't think its worth paying 45k for a civic when you get more from a golf gti.

[NightRyder]

I don't think we're comparing "apples with apples" here.

1. This CTR is an NA vehicle, whereas the Golf GTI is a turbo vehicle
2. Price range, yes both might be in the same price range (if you are basing it on Golf Gti base model) but if you wanted extras for the Golf, you would have to pay more and the prices you may pay for some of these extras for the Golf I find ridiculous!...
The CTR (from what I've read) comes with most features and if price is around 38-43K, that's all you have to pay!
3. The CTR is a 2dr hatch/coupe, Golf Gti is a 4/5dr hatch

Hence, two different cars... :cool:


Well to you 6MT > DSG but not everyone drives a manual and it is faster then the manual version. In terms of value for money i don't think its worth paying 45k for a civic when you get more from a golf gti.

[Spicey]

Dont forget one is a Honda and one is a VW, nuff said!

[denot]

Dont forget one is a Honda and one is a VW, nuff said!

I'm starting to wonder why GTI are sold with such a "low price" for a VW... anyway, it would be better to compare the CTR with ITR rather than to GTI i think... :p

[UNLS1]

Didn't like it at first but the look of the car will start to grow on you after a while and i would have to agree with most that black does look the best but apparently red in real life looks pretty good as well compared to the pictures.

I've been camping the english civic type r forums (civictype-r.co.uk) and everyone whose just got their car are loving it. All reviews from leading magazines such as what car?, auto express, top gear and autocar have given the car a very decent rating except Evo. It looks like they considered build and handling in most of the tests because the type r came last out of the 4 cars tested ( MPS, Gti, Cupra and type-r) when it came to lap times and 0 - 100 kph.

Also cost wise.. UNLS1 if you are a dealer do you know how much these things are going for? as i'm abit confused at the moment since its about 18600 in the UK for a GT and converting that to AUS its about 45-46k which is almost equivalent to a Golf Gti with DSG.


we still havnt been told of the cost yet but i have a fair idea. Also the stocks will be very limited, i know how many we are getting from june till dec and its not much at all!

[xtercii]

I don't think we're comparing "apples with apples" here.

1. This CTR is an NA vehicle, whereas the Golf GTI is a turbo vehicle
2. Price range, yes both might be in the same price range (if you are basing it on Golf Gti base model) but if you wanted extras for the Golf, you would have to pay more and the prices you may pay for some of these extras for the Golf I find ridiculous!...
The CTR (from what I've read) comes with most features and if price is around 38-43K, that's all you have to pay!
3. The CTR is a 2dr hatch/coupe, Golf Gti is a 4/5dr hatch

Hence, two different cars... :cool:

CTR and Golf GTI are not a direct comparison? They are both front wheel drive sports hatch, priced very closely, targeting the same group of buyers. CTR is not a coupe, and GTI now comes in 2 door. If you think they shouldn't be compared because of their engines, then I guess comparing Holden SS to Ford XR6 turbo would be comparing oranges to apples too.

[denot]

CTR and Golf GTI are not a direct comparison? They are both front wheel drive sports hatch, priced very closely, targeting the same group of buyers. CTR is not a coupe, and GTI now comes in 2 door. If you think they shouldn't be compared because of their engines, then I guess comparing Holden SS to Ford XR6 turbo would be comparing oranges to apples too.

Then MPS vs GTI will be the same with CTR vs GTI?

[MKI4EVA]

Dont forget one is a Honda and one is a VW, nuff said!

ABBAhahhaa good to see some humour on this site.


For those not in the know.......the MKV GTI does come in 2-door platform as of nov/06.

A one off special order of grey. As you can see ACT plates mounted.

http://27772.smugmug.com/photos/136548876-L.jpg


and if you think the CTR should not be compared to the GTI please let me know what smacky E's your popping cause i'd like some as well for the next rave.

[industrie]

the CTR was spedifically bought in by honda australia to compete in that segment which includes the GTI, MPS, FOCUS, and every other hatch on the market...

[sendok]

the CTR was spedifically bought in by honda australia to compete in that segment which includes the GTI, MPS, FOCUS, and every other hatch on the market...

for those 4 options: i love CTR(1st), MPS(2nd) :D

[Spicey]

Ok, ill say it again! One is a Honda and one is a VW! its like comparing a 350Z to a S2000, CBR to a GSXR, Civic to a Pulsar!

You cant compare a Honda to anything, I thought all you guys would know that! ;)

(said like a typical one eyed Honda fan)

CTR FTW!

:thumbsup:

[Spicey]

for those 4 options: i love CTR(1st), MPS(2nd) :D

XR5 Focuses are pretty good though, my best mate has one.

My order would be CTR, XR5, GTi then MPS

[denot]

XR5 Focuses are pretty good though, my best mate has one.

My order would be CTR, XR5, GTi then MPS

Havent actually test drive any of them... so no preference here....

[krazibone]

Ok, ill say it again! One is a Honda and one is a VW! its like comparing a 350Z to a S2000, CBR to a GSXR, Civic to a Pulsar!

You cant compare a Honda to anything, I thought all you guys would know that! ;)

(said like a typical one eyed Honda fan)

CTR FTW!

:thumbsup:


Yes but the CTR and Gti are direct competitors of each other. Meaning comparing cost, performance, and features if they were at the same cost the Golf would be favoured. Only loyal honda customers would pay a price like that and the others would shift to the golf due to value for money and a tad better performance and convenience.

If UNLS1 is speaking the truth about limited stock then i better go check out a local dealer. Anyone know a good honda dealer in the sydney area? I live around the Ashfield area so any where around there would be great....

[denot]

Yes but the CTR and Gti are direct competitors of each other. Meaning comparing cost, performance, and features if they were at the same cost the Golf would be favoured. Only loyal honda customers would pay a price like that and the others would shift to the golf due to value for money and a tad better performance and convenience.

If UNLS1 is speaking the truth about limited stock then i better go check out a local dealer. Anyone know a good honda dealer in the sydney area? I live around the Ashfield area so any where around there would be great....

Like i sed... we havent test drive both of the car, we cant judge which one give better performance and better features... Cant judge them by looking @ the price and statistic... must drive them yourself to find which one better... ^_^

[industrie]

you have to put down a deposit if you want the type R...

[krazibone]

Like i sed... we havent test drive both of the car, we cant judge which one give better performance and better features... Cant judge them by looking @ the price and statistic... must drive them yourself to find which one better... ^_^

Apparently test driving isn't enough overall as you can't exploit its potential due to a dealer on your back, the CTR is a better car over time as you begin to mold into according to the UK CTR forums. But yes i agreed everyone has different tastes and you cant judge them until you've test driven them both. But so far the reviews from consumers have been positive for the ctr.

[krazibone]

you have to put down a deposit if you want the type R...

If you put down a deposit wouldn't you run the risk of a dealer jacking up the price? or do all dealers have a set price ? not 100% sure how this works =)

[denot]

If you put down a deposit wouldn't you run the risk of a dealer jacking up the price? or do all dealers have a set price ? not 100% sure this works =)

agreed! dont be fooled, they might sell it to you for 50k! and cheaper to the others...

[MKI4EVA]

agreed! dont be fooled, they might sell it to you for 50k! and cheaper to the others...

initial deposits in situations like these just means your on the waitting list.

your not committed to anything because they can't even price it yet.

[crx51]

If you put down a deposit wouldn't you run the risk of a dealer jacking up the price? or do all dealers have a set price ? not 100% sure how this works =)

No not correct. You run the risk of it not being higher than expected, however, no dealer can sell a car for more than RRP - if they tried to do this they'd end up with a massive law suit. So basically you'll get the car for what any other dealer is selling for. They wont be discounting the car, if you want one secure it now. If you decided not to go ahead its not real hard to pull out anyway, when i worked selling cars it happened all the time. People just make up a bs story and stick to it and the manager will almost always let them get away with it so they dont have to deal with the rubbish..

[Aratahu]

The whole thing of "put down a deposit now or you may not be able to get one" absolutely sucks and makes me want to just go MPS3. I'm not putting down a cent until final features list is confirmed. And then I want to be able to actually test drive one in a reasonable environment before making a decision.

Mazda organised it so that I could try their 3 on Sandown...

I wonder if Honda is going to pick up the glove?

[UNLS1]

If you put down a deposit wouldn't you run the risk of a dealer jacking up the price? or do all dealers have a set price ? not 100% sure how this works =)

NO! u can leave a deposit so u make sure u get one of the first ones and u dont end up waiting for one!

IF u leave a deposit just sign up the contract subject to the pricing when it comes to hand from honda! If ur not happy with the RRP u can get ur deposit back.

ive sold cars subject to test drives too. similar thing too.

The XR5 focus is selling well, so well they dont even have a demonstrator so people come in to work put a dep down to get one then if they dont like it when it arrives they dont have to take it, coz if they done there are another few hundred people who want one!


oh and yes as another smart member has said, if u 110% want one put ur deposit down now coz as i said i know how many we are getting and there will be no discount at all!
If u want to pull out and get ur deposit back i doubt there will be a problem as there will be a list of about 50 other people wanting one!

[UNLS1]

The whole thing of "put down a deposit now or you may not be able to get one" absolutely sucks and makes me want to just go MPS3. I'm not putting down a cent until final features list is confirmed. And then I want to be able to actually test drive one in a reasonable environment before making a decision.

Mazda organised it so that I could try their 3 on Sandown...

I wonder if Honda is going to pick up the glove?

lol no chance! u as i posted lots of ford dealers dont even have an XR5 to test drive!

[SHIFTY]

07 peugeot 207 gti > 07 ctr

I work at Trivett Peugeot... (app. Mech)

and the new 207 is farkn ugly!!!!!!!

The sport model will be known as the 207 RC and will share the same engine as the mini cooper S (turbo charged)

all i can say is honda FTW!!! (accept they need the jdm ctr not the pommy one !!)

[QuintessentiaLs]

I'm not putting down a cent until final features list is confirmed. x 2...

[krazibone]

Well as long as you can pull out without any penalties then thats sweet.
Not in a really big rush to get it as the longer i wait the more longer i can save. :thumbsup:

[Perry]

If you put down a deposit wouldn't you run the risk of a dealer jacking up the price? or do all dealers have a set price ? not 100% sure how this works =)

Well apparently i was told it will reach the 50K mark and the desposit it refundable but a certain percentage you will loose.

[Kazaf]

50k... rather invest in a house.

[crx51]

Well apparently i was told it will reach the 50K mark and the desposit it refundable but a certain percentage you will loose.

Who told you 50k? I think even if thats an on the road price honda are going to struggle to sell these.. Much better cars around for 50k. Everyone to their own i guess but when you make a car to compete with 40k hatches you'd want it to be awesome if you are going to charge 25percent more.. I doubt very much it would be that expensive..

[Perry]

Who told you 50k? I think even if thats an on the road price honda are going to struggle to sell these.. Much better cars around for 50k. Everyone to their own i guess but when you make a car to compete with 40k hatches you'd want it to be awesome if you are going to charge 25percent more.. I doubt very much it would be that expensive..

1 of the dealers I know at homebush honda he said roughly it might hit 50K

[industrie]

i dont think it will hit that mark...it needs to be priced to the market and for the car to hit that mark would be stupid from hondas point of view...it should be around the 40K mark plus onroads...and again there limited...so its not like they will have alot of them available

[krazibone]

No way it would be 50k. I'm better off buying an audi with that money.
Its gotta be around 38-43k.

[UNLS1]

lol i hate dealers that comment on price, there is no official pricing yet, no body knows, dealers dont know so dont listen to anyone untill its released from honda australia!

just be patient! :)

[Aratahu]

Yep, #355, amen to that. From my point of view it needs to be competitive with the MPS3.

The way I see it, the awesomeness of that engine is matched by the "complete package" thing of the CTR. However if it starts costing 5-10k more then forget about it. Mazdas have awesome build quality as well and they arranged the performance driving day which I'm not about to forget.

Mazda on average is the top #1 brand for quality, followed closely by Honda. The gap to Toyota in 3rd is huge. Ford etc are waaay down on the list (http://www.topgear.com/blogs/planettopgear/024-cant-get-no-satisfaction/).

[sitta]

it will not reached 50k for sure. it will be around 38-43 but the dealer hint that the worst to come is that it will be from around 45/46k marks and you better order soon, as i said before only 3 for each delaer in june and 2 each months after that there must be a long wait if you want to test drive the car first in june

[Tofu]

LOL knowing Honda Australia they will stuff it all up and it will end up being ++$45k mark

Don't forget, they did price the Integra TypeR and TypeS a few $k more than the S15 and WRX...

[Aratahu]

#357- Ok, this actually suits me fine, I'm only going to do the swap over from my GSXR-600 bike in 2008. And given that I have test driven the 3MPS on Sandown racetrack, no way in hot places I'm ordering a car unseen. :lol:

[Tofu]

that list doesn't show vehicle "quality"
it talks about reliability...

mazda still use shit plastics.


The message is clear, new car buyers - if you want proper reliability, go for a Mazda or a Honda and forget the rest.

[0138]

I personally think the car will be a $39,990 + ORC. Dealer's have already recieved allocations and the price will be released shortly. I have already placed my order for a black one and a set of CE28N's in 19" are already on their way. Now i am just looking for a set if coilover's in which i will investigate when i am in Japan. Let's hope the UK Suspension set up is no different to the Jap cars..

[denot]

that list doesn't show vehicle "quality"
it talks about reliability...

mazda still use shit plastics.

cant agree more... and their engine is not that "reliable", this according to a friend working @ NRMA insurance... ^_^ There more Mazda driver call in for road assistance (battery fault, etc) rather than Honda (thats why I pick civic rather than Maz3 before)

[Aratahu]

Their top ranked individual vehicle is the Honda Accord.

EDIT: Also my in laws bought the very base model 2007 Mazda 3 (neo, with power upgrade only) hatch. I thought it felt great to drive, even with just a 4AT. Engine very responsive, pulled well with 4 adults in the car. Noise levels are minimal, in fact less rattle (NONE!) than in my Accord Euro.

My Euro has been plagued with it from day 1, with multiple day services required to get the worst of them out. Look at the Accord forum, I'm hardly the only one. Might have been that mine is a "lemon" in terms of rattle, and theirs is a "gem", but... also going to get my left headlight replaced on next week's 20k service due to condensation issue.

I'd rather have something simple or not as pretty that just works 100% than something fancy that gives me tonnes of trouble.

[crx51]

Lets face it, yeah some of the mazda plastics arent the best but some honda's feel plasticky too. My mazda 6 felt great inside. Every manufacturer is going to have imperfections. The build process includes tolerances and while cars have very acute tolerances these days there will still always be 'duds'.. Most cars around these days are pretty good, even hyundai have some nice cars and are very reliable.. Comes down to choosing what you like the drive of and what suits the requirements and budget confinements..

[TypeG]

mazda is no way to compare with any Honda
drove a Mazda sp23 and it is like a pos.. crappy interior, quality and gearbox.

btw... this CTR looks UGLY.... where is the Jap spec CTR =(

[crx51]

mazda is no way to compare with any Honda
drove a Mazda sp23 and it is like a pos.. crappy interior, quality and gearbox.

btw... this CTR looks UGLY.... where is the Jap spec CTR =(

Again personal opinion. Im sure many people driving sp23's have driven the civic and say the same thing of honda. Whatever floats your boat as they say. Too many people will buy a Civic and justify it to themselves by bagging mazda3, focus etc and im sure there are buyers who dont like many aspects of the civic also. I see no issue with quality from mazda, they are no merc/bmw/vw but then i dont believe honda are either. The interior isnt too bad in my opinion, comfy and roomy, i never had a single quality issue with my mazda 6 and the gearbox might not be as light and nice to slick between gears as many honda's but its still easy to use, non baulky and doesnt grind or jump out of gear.. not too bad. Plus the 2.3litre motor is great, very torquey and much better suited (again in MY opinion) to a relatively large family car (compared to civics of old) especially if they are automatic...

Again these are just my expressed views and many may disagree but i think to say mazda is crap isn't a very educated view..

[denot]

...to say mazda is crap isn't a very educated view..

There's no car that is crap... if you a car-lover then you will love whatever you drive (even if its a mr bean's mini cooper... He loves it soooo much :p)

[sitta]

I personally think the car will be a $39,990 + ORC. Dealer's have already recieved allocations and the price will be released shortly. I have already placed my order for a black one and a set of CE28N's in 19" are already on their way. Now i am just looking for a set if coilover's in which i will investigate when i am in Japan. Let's hope the UK Suspension set up is no different to the Jap cars..

nice wheels, are you going to get them in black? i think im just painting my original rim gold, i also ordered a black ctr

[aaronng]

There's no car that is crap... if you a car-lover then you will love whatever you drive (even if its a mr bean's mini cooper... He loves it soooo much :p)

I think Mr. Bean drives a Morris Minor. :)
But yeah, put someone who loves the Mazda6 into the Euro, and they will complain about it.

BTW, my Euro is the one with the worst rattles. :)

[IAMVTEC]

I think Mazda is going downhill in quality. some of their early-mid 90s cars were pretty good cars for the time, like I find an old 626 has a better interior than an old Accord. But the newer Mazdas are just awful. I mean the interiors are some of the cheapest and worst looking Ive ever seen.

[NeoNode]

I think Mr. Bean drives a Morris Minor. :)
But yeah, put someone who loves the Mazda6 into the Euro, and they will complain about it.

BTW, my Euro is the one with the worst rattles. :)
Yeah! When it starts to sound like a WRX, something is seriously wrong with your car Aaron haha! :p

[MKI4EVA]

I personally think the car will be a $39,990 + ORC. Dealer's have already recieved allocations and the price will be released shortly. I have already placed my order for a black one and a set of CE28N's in 19" are already on their way. Now i am just looking for a set if coilover's in which i will investigate when i am in Japan. Let's hope the UK Suspension set up is no different to the Jap cars..


What happened to the days when 17"s were hectic..........respect must be paid to the wise Tempe team - much foresight they had.

[denot]

BTW, my Euro is the one with the worst rattles. :)

Is this becoz of your "getho" airbox and other "getho" parts? :p

[aaronng]

Is this becoz of your "getho" airbox and other "getho" parts? :p

No, it's not because of the ghetto parts. My ghetto parts are better than those that you can buy.

The rattles come from the interior. It's the stuff that are on the TSX's TSBs. I have the weak front roof liner clips, front door panel rattle, seat belt B pillar adjuster rattle, rear brake light rattle. I had the parcel shelf creak and glove box rattle, but those two were fixed by my dealer.

[denot]

No, it's not because of the ghetto parts. My ghetto parts are better than those that you can buy.


Hehehe, thats a relief... I will try to create your "Ghetto" airbox on my Civic later on when I have time... :p

[**Ghost**]

without considering money...

Would you guys buy this new CTR or the EP3...

I'm trying to decide between the 2 atm (without thinking about dollars) and somehow i like the look of the Ep3 more...i cant stand the back of hte new CTR tho the fornt and interior is hawt

[krazibone]

What ever floats your boat. Everyone has different tastes. My personal preference is the new CTR as i've grown to like the looks, up to date with safety, can take the car out on track days. If you want to go hardcore in the future you can start stripping it out yourself i guess.

[denot]

Or, if you dont like the new CTR looks, you can make the VTI-Sports into CTR? :p

[Nikitaki]

will there be a 4 door version of the civic type R ?

[krazibone]

I highly doubt it. The sedan you are thinking about is only available in Japan i think.

[fasthonda]

I highly doubt it. The sedan you are thinking about is only available in Japan i think.

I agree.The Japanese versions of Type R have always been more powerful than other countries' production versions.The sedan type R I believe has 165 kw .In other forums I 've been told that it laps the Tsukuba track in Japan faster than the JDM ITR,S2000 and the NSX(don't know if it's true about the NSX though.)
Yep.the JDM Civic Type R is a different kind of animal to the SI and the Euro Type R.

[Nikitaki]

so in otherwords the 2 door is the one to be sold in Australia ?

[fasthonda]

so in otherwords the 2 door is the one to be sold in Australia ?

Yes,the two door Euro hatch.Unless later down the track a miracle happens and Honda Australia decides to bring in a very limited amount of the JDM Sedan Type Rs.:)

[aaronng]

If the EP3 you get is JDM, then go for that. Otherwise, the UK CTR if you want a new car.

[EK4R]

^^. there is one for sale on carpoint for 25k! go get it. and its white!!

[sitta]

what do you think of a new black ctr with white wheels? just the stock one, i planning to paint it white and paint my calliper red

[RyDC5S]

I was told 45k roughly after dealer delivery.

I'm hoping this model will be built in Thailand one day, shave off 10k off the price.

[Nikitaki]

they probably will build them some where closer, honestly the civic type R will not be a top seller among the public because it is a 2 door. it will more then likely be more expensive then a Type S. I dont think people will be keen on paying that money for a hatch.

[aaronng]

I was told 45k roughly after dealer delivery.

I'm hoping this model will be built in Thailand one day, shave off 10k off the price.
It's designed and built in the UK. So I don't think they have the tooling for it in Thailand. To start up a new line, they need to justify a large number of Civic hatches, which they don't sell in south east asia.

[aaronng]

they probably will build them some where closer, honestly the civic type R will not be a top seller among the public because it is a 2 door. it will more then likely be more expensive then a Type S. I dont think people will be keen on paying that money for a hatch.

I think they will target the same market as those shopping for the Golf GTI. Not the traditional Civic buyers who are after performance for $30,000 (VTiR)

[**Ghost**]

If the EP3 you get is JDM, then go for that. Otherwise, the UK CTR if you want a new car.

JDM ep3.. just under 30,000 bucks for a good 2004+ one... for that money I'd probably be able to get one with some decent big brand name fruit

but its not a new car :o .... and for that sorta money a Rx8 is buyable too.. (which imo is in a differnet sorta class, not maybe for perfomrance but for package)

[etli]

I was told 45k roughly after dealer delivery.

I'm hoping this model will be built in Thailand one day, shave off 10k off the price.

I was told by the local dealer. It will cost 46K at least. I guess the range should be 45~46K.

[0138]

nice wheels, are you going to get them in black? i think im just painting my original rim gold, i also ordered a black ctr

The wheels will be in bronze. I think black with black is an over kill. Unless it is on a bike, than in that case, it looks sexy....

[krazibone]

I was told by the local dealer. It will cost 46K at least. I guess the range should be 45~46K.

46k at least is abit steep for a CTR.

[0138]

What happened to the days when 17"s were hectic..........respect must be paid to the wise Tempe team - much foresight they had.

Dude, I had 17" wheels on my car even before Tempe's was a company. I still remember the day, My brother and i spent hours arguing with Australia's best and in the end i said "Just order the f***ing wheels" and here is my money.

[UNLS1]

46k at least is abit steep for a CTR.


ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE! the prices have not been released so settle down and dont believe anything untill HONDA AUSTRALIA has released the official prices!

im so over 'he said'. 'ive herd' 'apparantly'

just be patient.

[jenova]

I was told 45k roughly after dealer delivery.

I'm hoping this model will be built in Thailand one day, shave off 10k off the price.

LOL, I doubt they will shave off 10k even if they are built in Thailand. It is all about profit maximising, not doing charity work.

[QuintessentiaLs]

Realistically speaking... My point of view...

According to memory... When the DC5 integra came out standard it was 42K and the Type R was 46K...

So if the same pattern was to happen... The standard Civic sports now is 33.5K so I'm guessing that the Type R would be around 38K or so...

The fact that it's a Civic as well compared to an Integra I don't think it'll reach the 46K mark *fingers crossed* either way I'm gonna get it hahaha so doesn't really matter...

Also I did a quick online conversion of the UK price to AUD and it's around the 35K more so yeah... I'm expecting 42K or so... Hopefully that's with on road...

[krazibone]

ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE! the prices have not been released so settle down and dont believe anything untill HONDA AUSTRALIA has released the official prices!

im so over 'he said'. 'ive herd' 'apparantly'

just be patient.

Agreed, quotes without proper references suck. But still 46k is abit steep for a CTR :p

[jeffske]

Yep, #355, amen to that. From my point of view it needs to be competitive with the MPS3.

The way I see it, the awesomeness of that engine is matched by the "complete package" thing of the CTR. However if it starts costing 5-10k more then forget about it. Mazdas have awesome build quality as well and they arranged the performance driving day which I'm not about to forget.

Mazda on average is the top #1 brand for quality, followed closely by Honda. The gap to Toyota in 3rd is huge. Ford etc are waaay down on the list (http://www.topgear.com/blogs/planettopgear/024-cant-get-no-satisfaction/).

not sure if this has been covered on this forum, but the MPS3's have had some issues with the engine literally falling out of the car. so if you call this quality then i dont want quality. Also this "topgear" list doesnt mean jack to be honest, because I read a survey from what people thought about cars in the US and they said HYUNDAIS were the most reliable. It's obviously based on people's opinions and if u asked another group of people their opinions would differ

[tron07]

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/typersedan3.jpg

which type R u prefer.... 4 door also look nice

[aaronng]

Realistically speaking... My point of view...

According to memory... When the DC5 integra came out standard it was 42K and the Type R was 46K...

So if the same pattern was to happen... The standard Civic sports now is 33.5K so I'm guessing that the Type R would be around 38K or so...

The fact that it's a Civic as well compared to an Integra I don't think it'll reach the 46K mark *fingers crossed* either way I'm gonna get it hahaha so doesn't really matter...

Also I did a quick online conversion of the UK price to AUD and it's around the 35K more so yeah... I'm expecting 42K or so... Hopefully that's with on road...

The Civic Sport has a very different engine.

[denot]

which type R u prefer.... 4 door also look nice

Off course this one!!!! no question about it!!! :p

[krazibone]

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/typersedan3.jpg

which type R u prefer.... 4 door also look nice

Yes everyone would love that version to come to australia but the probability of that is very very very slim. According to the UK forums there will be a RR version which is a very stripped down version of the current civic hatchback.

[denot]

Yes everyone would love that version to come to australia but the probability of that is very very very slim. According to the UK forums there will be a RR version which is a very stripped down version of the current civic hatchback.

Wooot???? another version of the civic HATCHBACK... we want sedan or coupe!!!!;)

[krazibone]

Wooot???? another version of the civic HATCHBACK... we want sedan or coupe!!!!;)

Apparently so its a light weight version of the current type r coming out called Type-R R i'm guessing. Also a Jazz type R L.O.L factor in full effect. But don't quote me on this, its something that i found on the UK civic type r forums.

Thread:

http://civictype-r.co.uk/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=130568&sid=5351285c9d24d61b7ef664d92ce3b5ed

You will need to register to view their forums though. Good if you want to know what the consumers think of the car over there.

[Perry]

apparently the 4dr Ctr is still in production through test and stuff

[tron07]

Here you go....


http://www.procivic.com/images/articles_news/2006_si_photos_driving_impressions/2006_civic_si_side.jpg

[tron07]

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/typersedan1.jpg

Honda has announced a prototype Honda Civic Type R based on the 4-door sedan model that will be used as the official car (red flag car) for the Japanese Formula 1 grand prix.

The prototype is expected to finish development and be released in Spring 2007, in the Japanese market. The Honda Civic Type R sedan will have a specially tuned sport suspension and will feature the legendary K20 i-VTEC high-revving engine, over 220PS

[aaronng]

Here you go....


http://www.procivic.com/images/articles_news/2006_si_photos_driving_impressions/2006_civic_si_side.jpg

WTF! The Si in that pic is RHD! I thought they were made only in LHD in the US.

[krazibone]

Wow it looks really nice if you order black bumpers with the car.

Check it.
http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53242

[Perry]

Mike buy the new CTR so I can drive it lol

[krazibone]

Mike buy the new CTR so I can drive it lol

Lol you can take it home for me, since i have no idea about manual yet :thumbdwn:

[NeoNode]

WTF! The Si in that pic is RHD! I thought they were made only in LHD in the US.
That's not RHD haha, if you think about where the wheel would be on a RHD vehicle, you wouldn't be able to see it from the angle this picture was taken.

[UNLS1]

That's not RHD haha, if you think about where the wheel would be on a RHD vehicle, you wouldn't be able to see it from the angle this picture was taken.

lol QFT!

[aaronng]

Haha, my eyes are playing tricks with me.

[XB-16-AX]

i want the 4dr ctR if released in AUST.... its definately time to withdraw some cash out of the equity!! :P

definately on top of my priority list ...second comes the missus :p

haha

[ShAwNeX]

Does anyone know which Civic Type-R is better between the hatch and the sedan or are they exactly the same other than their body shape?

[Kyo]

jdm > euro

[chinkdood]

eww look ugly frm the bak.. LOL! look like one of the daewoo car??? o.O

[chinkdood]

i reckon civic coupe is d way to go xD

[tron07]

edit-image not loading for some reason

[denot]

er... reason for posting the "we seen it all" pics? :confused:

[dmx]

civic type-r hatch in oz will cost around 40k up.
so if you have 40k, what type of car do you want ?
1.luxury/roomy = accord euro/aurion or c-class/3series(used)
2.power = mazda 3mps(190kw)/WRX or monaro/holden HSV(used)
3.sports=integra type-s or s2000/1991 nsx(if u lucky)
4.hatch with brand name=alfa 147 TI(top of the range)
now, tell me honda type-r hatch,where should i put ?
may be this :
5.hatch with Honda brand:type-r
;)

[krazibone]

Ninja'd from the UK forums:

This is the sedan version oh i wouldn't mind one of these.

New CTR PIcs (new pics)
http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-467-...ic+Lineup.html


Mugen CTR! Means as fcuk!
http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-468-...+By+Mugen.html

[krazibone]

civic type-r hatch in oz will cost around 40k up.
so if you have 40k, what type of car do you want ?
1.luxury/roomy = accord euro/aurion or c-class/3series(used)
2.power = mazda 3mps(190kw)/WRX or monaro/holden HSV(used)
3.sports=integra type-s or s2000/1991 nsx(if u lucky)
4.hatch with brand name=alfa 147 TI(top of the range)
now, tell me honda type-r hatch,where should i put ?
may be this :
5.hatch with Honda brand:type-r
;)

Nice comparision (note:sarcasm), i'm still getting one though if it isn't too expensive. :thumbsup:

[aaronng]

civic type-r hatch in oz will cost around 40k up.
so if you have 40k, what type of car do you want ?
1.luxury/roomy = accord euro/aurion or c-class/3series(used)
If I have a family, Euro or Aurion. I'd rather get an older previous gen 5-series rather than a used 3-series.



2.power = mazda 3mps(190kw)/WRX or monaro/holden HSV(used)
3MPS or a WRX. No used HSVs for me. Even seeing a new one with dealer plates being fanged and burning heaps of coolant yesterday is scary enough.



3.sports=integra type-s or s2000/1991 nsx(if u lucky)
S2000. A 1991 NSX will need more than just 40k. Factor in another 10k to replace the timing belt, water pump and valve clearance checks.



4.hatch with brand name=alfa 147 TI(top of the range)
I'll never touch a 147, especially after one spontaneously combusted next to my friend's mint E30 325i coupe. The only Alfa I'd put up with all the problem for is the Brera.



now, tell me honda type-r hatch,where should i put ?
may be this :
5.hatch with Honda brand:type-r
;)
I think the UK CTR should be put into the same category as the Golf GTI. Unfortunately, the interior will not appeal to middle age buyers.

[bubblecivic]

I'd definitely be looking into this! I hope it'll fall just under 40k!

Anyone know the colour range and options available when new? I don't have flash here to access the website.

[IAMVTEC]

http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/typersedan3.jpg

which type R u prefer.... 4 door also look nice

^^this one. much better than the hatch monstrocity.

[IAMVTEC]

Ninja'd from the UK forums:

This is the sedan version oh i wouldn't mind one of these.

New CTR PIcs (new pics)
http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-467-...ic+Lineup.html


Mugen CTR! Means as fcuk!
http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-468-...+By+Mugen.html

Nice.. but the bonnet vents on the Mugen is a bit too much.,

[MKI4EVA]

^^this one. much better than the hatch monstrocity.

hahahhahah........sumed it up very well............

[krazibone]

^^this one. much better than the hatch monstrocity.

Reminds me of a toyota sportivo just abit.

[denot]

civic type-r hatch in oz will cost around 40k up.
so if you have 40k, what type of car do you want ?
1.luxury/roomy = accord euro/aurion or c-class/3series(used)
2.power = mazda 3mps(190kw)/WRX or monaro/holden HSV(used)
3.sports=integra type-s or s2000/1991 nsx(if u lucky)
4.hatch with brand name=alfa 147 TI(top of the range)
now, tell me honda type-r hatch,where should i put ?
may be this :
5.hatch with Honda brand:type-r
;)

Why ITS, s2k or nsx... if you can get EVO VII for $32k???? Thats practically cover number 2 and 3 (and its a 4 door for family as well :p)

[tron07]

Why ITS, s2k or nsx... if you can get EVO VII for $32k???? Thats practically cover number 2 and 3 (and its a 4 door for family as well :p)

Include WRX in fold too... :p

[skoota]

Woah so many pages - I'm so not reading it all lol so I apologise if I repeat some other statements.

OK it is about time Honda Australia did this - and we now finally have a CTR. However, I just wish it was the sedan that we were getting. That thing looks hot - the hatch; well I'm not impressed. Nothing on the EK9.

If the sedan came out I'd be seriously considering buying it. But not the sedan. :(

[aaronng]

Just a hypothetical, what if the JDM CTR was the hatch with 162kW, while the UKDM one was the 147kW sedan. Would you still want the sedan then?

[sitta]

Just a hypothetical, what if the JDM CTR was the hatch with 162kW, while the UKDM one was the 147kW sedan. Would you still want the sedan then? certainly not!! cuz im getting the hatch in june!!:p

[TypeG]

Just a hypothetical, what if the JDM CTR was the hatch with 162kW, while the UKDM one was the 147kW sedan. Would you still want the sedan then?

in term of power and quality, for 40k+, i can buy something better in the class.

in term of the shape, i wont get a POS.

[dmx]

in term of power and quality, for 40k+, i can buy something better in the class.

in term of the shape, i wont get a POS.

:) :) :) agreed
actually, yes, i will get it (sedan ukdm with 142 kw,note:headlight and taillight should like CTR), because power doesn't mean too much, even with current civic, i got speeding fine $600 + 3 month suspension 6 month ago, and 2 days ago, just got another fine $77 because JUST ONLY OVER 10km/h (70 in 60zone, unbelieveable that cops!!!!!):( :(
sorry out of topic, anyway, i will still buy if the price around 30k

[tron07]

What speed were you doing to cop the $600 fine?

[dmx]

What speed were you doing to cop the $600 fine?

hmmmm.... 100km in 60zone:o :o :o
but it's just 5 second mate.in front of me there are 4-5 slow cars(prob 50km/h),and i am bloody late to church(:D :D still a good God's son:angel: ) and there is merge lane in front of us.i thought i will stuck, so i take over those cars, i think, from those 5 cars, one of them is police car :eek: :eek:
suddendly, in my middle mirror, i saw red and blue light(nearly dark at that time), i tought wow ambulance, pull over, hang on, why this ambulance also pull over ? ohhhh s****:wave: :wave:

[denot]

hmmmm.... 100km in 60zone:o :o :o
but it's just 5 second mate.in front of me there are 4-5 slow cars(prob 50km/h),and i am bloody late to church(:D :D still a good God's son:angel: ) and there is merge lane in front of us.i thought i will stuck, so i take over those cars, i think, from those 5 cars, one of them is police car :eek: :eek:
suddendly, in my middle mirror, i saw red and blue light(nearly dark at that time), i tought wow ambulance, pull over, hang on, why this ambulance also pull over ? ohhhh s****:wave: :wave:

Hahahaha message from God: wake up earlier next time? :p

On topic: I still prefer the sedan eventhough its "slower", also just curious... is there any "Coupe Type R" ???

[krazibone]

Note: Sedan isn't coming to AUS.

Shouldn't be comparing things that isn't available here. There will always be something better overseas. Obviously everyone wants the sedan version but it wouldn't make sense if they just brought out the hatch and the sedan at the same time. There will be no market for the hatch obviously. My thoughts only.

[denot]

Note: Sedan isn't coming to AUS.



by the way, the CTR will only be release around 1000 units here in Oz... ^_^ And if many ppl are demanding more of the sedan, Honda might bring them here as well in 2 years or so... (this is after I ask a Honda dealer, no 100% confirmation though)

Also he sed that Honda was going to bring the Civic Hatchback instead of CTR Hatchback. And the price of the Civic Hatchback is almost the same as the CTR, thats why they cancel it and bring the CTR instead

[krazibone]

by the way, the CTR will only be release around 1000 units here in Oz... ^_^ And if many ppl are demanding more of the sedan, Honda might bring them here as well in 2 years or so... (this is after I ask a Honda dealer, no 100% confirmation though)

Also he sed that Honda was going to bring the Civic Hatchback instead of CTR Hatchback. And the price of the Civic Hatchback is almost the same as the CTR, thats why they cancel it and bring the CTR instead

Yeh if people are willing to wait for 2 years or so. Pretty sure something better will be out by that time.

[sitta]

every uk magazine even topgear say this car is the hot hatch king!!!

[dmx]

every uk magazine even topgear say this car is the hot hatch king!!!
i'm not saying this car is not good, but for AUD 40k+, for hatch i think it's too expensive.we have a lot of choices (more lux,more power,more sporty).but if we see this car alone, wow, i will say very GOOD!impresive!:thumbsup:
if this hatch for sale about 20k+ or 30k-, i will sale car+plasma+fridge+washing machine to make money to buy this car:D
of course, UK mag will say good, because this is theirs car! is ever ausie mag said bad about holden? even they gave title : car of the year:eek:

[sitta]

i'm not saying this car is not good, but for AUD 40k+, for hatch i think it's too expensive.we have a lot of choices (more lux,more power,more sporty).but if we see this car alone, wow, i will say very GOOD!impresive!:thumbsup:
if this hatch for sale about 20k+ or 30k-, i will sale car+plasma+fridge+washing machine to make money to buy this car:D
of course, UK mag will say good, because this is theirs car! is ever ausie mag said bad about holden? even they gave title : car of the year:eek:

haha so true!! but you will never know until you can drive it

[NeRV]

Two cool clips i found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhbfGjVSvn0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9s9cdmvKQ

But I prefer this CTR though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRbCrqMQB4

[krazibone]

Stig loves the car, he chose the CTR over the other Hot hatches. Its not about how fast you go its about how fun the car is when you drive it, the CTR didn't do to well around the track compared to the other hatches he purely chose it because it was fun to drive.

If you look at last years top gear, GTI won the car of the year award because it was fun disregarding the lap time against other hatches. If you want a racing car then you are better off getting another car other then this.

[MKI4EVA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVOfwwbbfb8&NR=1

[MKI4EVA]

Stig loves the car, he chose the CTR over the other Hot hatches. Its not about how fast you go its about how fun the car is when you drive it, the CTR didn't do to well around the track compared to the other hatches he purely chose it because it was fun to drive.

If you look at last years top gear, GTI won the car of the year award because it was fun disregarding the lap time against other hatches. If you want a racing car then you are better off getting another car other then this.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[krazibone]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Point being?

[Tofu]

This is his point...and it's so very true.
People on top gear are bias towards UK built cars.



of course, UK mag will say good, because this is theirs car! is ever ausie mag said bad about holden? even they gave title : car of the year:eek:

[slipangle]

Just a hypothetical, what if the JDM CTR was the hatch with 162kW, while the UKDM one was the 147kW sedan. Would you still want the sedan then?

Interesting hypothetical.

If you were to say that "a" JDM CTR hatch had the following attributes;

- mechanical LSD
- independant rear suspension
- light weight. Let's face it, 1300+ kgs (with a/c) is NOT light for a 3 door hatch in absolute terms (relative to the competition - maybe).
- 50% greater torsional rigidity than a JDM DC5R
- "considered" engineering touches (e.g. lowering the seat height to lower centre of gravity to offset the MPV-like body etc etc etc and all the other detailed changes we expect for a true "Type R")

...then the answer would be YES. I probably would prefer the hatch.

Too bad that none of those attributes exist for this UK CTR we're getting.

If Honda Australia can bring the JDM CTR sedan then I would buy it, as it would be the only car that Honda Australia could (potentially) make available to us that is worthy of being a replacement for the DC2R - the only true Type R experience that us Aussies have been able to purchase from a dealer.

[industrie]

I think for honda australia to bring in any type R is definately a good cause...the reason being that they needed a hot hatch to compete against the GTI, focus, etc, not a hot sedan as the JDM civic is

[wuoosh]

niceeeeeee.. but $$

[sitta]

delaer says to me 41990 + onroad . but no confirmation yet

[fasthonda]

delaer says to me 41990 + onroad . but no confirmation yet

If that is the price,it's too pricey.
Ford XR5 $35,990 + onroad.Renault Megane Sport-$39,999 Drive away.Golf (GTI)M 3 dr $38,490 + onroad.Madza 3 MPS $39,990 + onroad costs.
Only $1,000 cheaper than the awesome Astra VRX.
The question, based on that price assumption,is do I have enough brand loyalty to Honda to order a CTR :confused:

[krazibone]

If that is the price,it's too pricey.
Ford XR5 $35,990 + onroad.Renault Megane Sport-$39,999 Drive away.Golf (GTI)M 3 dr $38,490 + onroad.Madza 3 MPS $39,990 + onroad costs.
Only $1,000 cheaper than the awesome Astra VRX.
The question, based on that price assumption,is do I have enough brand loyalty to Honda to order a CTR :confused:

What you are quoting is the base model of each car. What sitta is quoting isn't the base model its the GT model, the base model should be about 38K or less then the golf. NOthing has been announced yet so there isn't any point comparing costs yet.

Add up all the features in the GTI along with the CTR you will see a price difference there.

[SPEEDCORE]

- independant rear suspension
Too bad that none of those attributes exist for this UK CTR we're getting.


This is the deal breaker for me and the missus unfortunately. There are advantages to a torsion beam rear end..... usually a larger and a wider hatch space which is always a good thing in a hatch for lugging the odd bit of gear in the back. There is nothing saying that you can not get a torsion beam setup to handle on par with a multilink/wishbone setup...... for starters there is no wild camber changes (at the rear) on lowering the car is nice :) ..... but I would still prefer a multilink setup for this reincarnation of the CTR.

As for the jap CTR...... I don't really care about the 160kw odd K20...... slap in the same spec one from the DC5S and bring it here for $45k, and I don't think the missus and I would be able to say no. :)

Someone mentioned something about how strong peoples brand loyalty is to Honda...... in Australia..... 0% :p

[UNLS1]

im a dealer and im still not even mentioning price untill i hear from honda aus itself!
just remember the integra type S was around 47k ON ROAD!
if u compare the CTR its heaps better value than the 06 teg type s, the teg type s was low on value and goodies compared to the new CTR.

lol not to mention the worst turning circle ever!, only 4 bags, no VSA, and terrible seats!

[slipn]

If that is the price,it's too pricey.
Ford XR5 $35,990 + onroad.Renault Megane Sport-$39,999 Drive away.Golf (GTI)M 3 dr $38,490 + onroad.Madza 3 MPS $39,990 + onroad costs.
Only $1,000 cheaper than the awesome Astra VRX.
The question, based on that price assumption,is do I have enough brand loyalty to Honda to order a CTR :confused:

Mate I assure you that the civic type R is alot better than all of those cars espicially the Mazda 3 MPS.

Well worth the extra few grand

[jackosimm]

even the rexnet boys are giving this thing some respect!

[sitta]

Y CANT THEY PUT THE SPOILER ON THIS WAY? http://www.chichi.me.uk/wp-content/mytyper.jpg ITS MUCH BETTER

[MKI4EVA]

Y CANT THEY PUT THE SPOILER ON THIS WAY? http://www.chichi.me.uk/wp-content/mytyper.jpg ITS MUCH BETTER


snap!! that looks heaps better for some reason.......

http://www.chichi.me.uk/wp-content/mytyper.jpg

[UNLS1]

that spoiler FTW! i love it!

[chunkyspew]

Will Honda bring the 4 door sedan Type R to Aus? Its just been released in Japan so if they do it'll be a while away. I prefer the 4 door to the hatch.

[trudogg]

nice but could ad some bodykit?

[dyljoy]

Hope new CTR can provide more colours to choose, but it seems just dream~

[diffuzn]

man the body on the new type r looks so mint

[UNLS1]

Will Honda bring the 4 door sedan Type R to Aus? Its just been released in Japan so if they do it'll be a while away. I prefer the 4 door to the hatch.

no they wont!

[fasthonda]

Hope new CTR can provide more colours to choose, but it seems just dream~


Looking at the brochure from my Honda dealer ,it shows Milano Red,Alabaster Silver and Nighthawk Black as the only available colours:(

[NightRyder]

so is it true apart from no brembo brakes, we will be getting 17" rims instead of the 18" rims?

[fasthonda]

so is it true apart from no brembo brakes, we will be getting 17" rims instead of the 18" rims?

The brochure does state 18" Alloy ,225/40 R18