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fatfish
06-03-2007, 07:33 PM
i just saw a advertising on japanese magazine, the spoon had new release ecu for cl7 with more then 25hp gain from it, can we also use it for our car cl9?

TypeG
06-03-2007, 07:37 PM
i asked the shop already, they said NO =(

fatfish
06-03-2007, 07:37 PM
there is another website with information
http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/product.php?productid=1420&cat=0&page=4

fatfish
06-03-2007, 07:41 PM
is this tuneable to suit our car by local tuning shop?

aaronng
06-03-2007, 07:50 PM
No because it doesn't support electronic throttle.

Chris_F
06-03-2007, 08:11 PM
the hondata reflash will be better for our cars than this (if it was even possible to run it) - interesting tho!

Personally I'm more excited about the number of tuneable ecu options coming onto the market... EFI, Autronic etc.

Been a long time coming

TypeG
06-03-2007, 08:19 PM
i wont be bother until some JDM thing coming out =)

fatfish
06-03-2007, 08:29 PM
what do you think about the haltech?

curik
06-03-2007, 09:23 PM
Hondata is right in front of our very eyes!! Only if they don't keep delaying the launch..

Chris_F
06-03-2007, 09:39 PM
i wont be bother until some JDM thing coming out =)

hahaha damn you must really love your jap products!

btw, Australia makes some of the best ecu's in the world.

Motec and Autronic are used around the world for a reason :D

tony1234
07-03-2007, 06:24 AM
Hondata is right in front of our very eyes!! Only if they don't keep delaying the launch..
Yeah,it's that close i can smell it!Only few more weeks.

BusterSonic12
07-03-2007, 07:00 AM
let's just hope so...

ginganggooly
07-03-2007, 08:45 AM
i wont be bother until some JDM thing coming out =)

We're living in the land of aftermarket ECU's, forget the JDM ECU's :)
Maaaaaaate :thumbsup:


ahyes. chrisf beat me to it...

curik
07-03-2007, 04:51 PM
Well looks like only JDM stuff floats TypeG's boat lol. Just look at all his mods, 100% JDM

TypeG
07-03-2007, 10:14 PM
kind of dont trust them....
also i just cant see the point of getting ECU without internal mod

ALN
08-03-2007, 09:37 AM
kind of dont trust them....
also i just cant see the point of getting ECU without internal mod

You may have some point there, mate. But K series flow is much better than B series flow even after serious port polished on B's series and K series does have vtc. K series respond well to modification better than any previous honda engine for 4 cyclinder. About ecus, Japanese, themselves are using imported ecus.

Chris_F
08-03-2007, 10:12 AM
kind of dont trust them....
also i just cant see the point of getting ECU without internal mod

if a hondata reflash can increase power by 25kw+ atw then a tunable ecu will be able to do even more. Say you spend $3000 all up for install and tuned for something like autronic or efi (rough numbers they may cost more) and gain 30kw it makes pretty good 'bang for the buck' sense.

as for trust... I'd rather fly in a plane with a motec ecu then a spoon one lol

TypeG
08-03-2007, 10:42 AM
if a hondata reflash can increase power by 25kw+ atw then a tunable ecu will be able to do even more. Say you spend $3000 all up for install and tuned for something like autronic or efi (rough numbers they may cost more) and gain 30kw it makes pretty good 'bang for the buck' sense.

as for trust... I'd rather fly in a plane with a motec ecu then a spoon one lol

for $3k... pay a bit more for supercharge or turbo will give u more power assume u really need those extra kw on track or street.

i do trust spoon instead since it is for the car itself and everything is ready to go.

Just me =)

Chris_F
08-03-2007, 11:09 AM
for $3k... pay a bit more for supercharge or turbo will give u more power assume u really need those extra kw on track or street.

i do trust spoon instead since it is for the car itself and everything is ready to go.

Just me =)

yea but you still need engine management so the cost of the turbo is additional to the $3k for an ecu.

maybe if they made an ecu for the cl9?

I know i wouldn't run a cl7 ecu on a k24 :eek: would run like crap I would think.

TypeG
08-03-2007, 11:33 AM
e-manage should be able to control turbo conversation as i saw a lot of ppl did that.

sigh.... no ecu for CL9 and i dont think there will be as the new F-COn IS wont suit CL9 as well

we are FORCED to use AUDM ecu

Chris_F
08-03-2007, 11:44 AM
e-manage should be able to control turbo conversation as i saw a lot of ppl did that.

sigh.... no ecu for CL9 and i dont think there will be as the new F-COn IS wont suit CL9 as well

we are FORCED to use AUDM ecu

not sure how well e-manage works with the cl9? isn't it just a piggy back?

also don't forget that with a tunable ecu the tuner is just as important if not more important than the ecu itself. If the car is being tuned in Australia then having an Australian tuner tune an Australian product they are highly familiar with is a better option.

see where I'm coming from? there are some great products from japan but they aren't always the best option

aaronng
08-03-2007, 12:25 PM
yea but you still need engine management so the cost of the turbo is additional to the $3k for an ecu.

maybe if they made an ecu for the cl9?

I know i wouldn't run a cl7 ecu on a k24 :eek: would run like crap I would think.

Won't work as the CL7 ECU expects a cabled throttle, while the K24a's is electronic.

aaronng
08-03-2007, 12:27 PM
e-manage should be able to control turbo conversation as i saw a lot of ppl did that.
Piggyback. Yuck.




we are FORCED to use AUDM ecu

What is wrong with an aussie-developed programmable ECU?

ginganggooly
08-03-2007, 12:38 PM
we are FORCED to use AUDM ecu

The best ECU's in the world come from Australia. So what, pray tell is wrong with AUDM?

TypeG
08-03-2007, 01:45 PM
i just dont like Audm thing =)

ginganggooly
08-03-2007, 02:41 PM
i just dont like Audm thing =)

I can't really argue against that :D

aaronng
08-03-2007, 02:55 PM
i just dont like Audm thing =)

Passing by superior hardware just because you want JDM is not too smart.....

Just get the AUDM one, and stick a HKS/Apexi/Greddy sticker on it.:thumbsup:

ginganggooly
08-03-2007, 03:23 PM
lol- if someone wants inferior product because they don't like the country of origin of the good stuff... there ain't much you or I can say to change their p.o.v.

TypeG
08-03-2007, 03:29 PM
y u guys force me to use AUDM thing lol

ginganggooly
08-03-2007, 03:45 PM
y u guys force me to use AUDM thing lol

I'd never do such a thing :p


nah, I just don't want to see people make the wrong choice...
at least, consider the JDM alternatives, i.e. don't write them off because they're australian :thumbsup:

aaronng
08-03-2007, 03:51 PM
y u guys force me to use AUDM thing lol

Actually, it's not an AUDM vs JDM thing. But among all the ECUs that you listed, the JDMs are piggybacks while the AUDM ones are full programmable. And I say no to piggybacks. Especially since the Euro's ECU is a self-optimising one.

Chris_F
08-03-2007, 06:21 PM
Won't work as the CL7 ECU expects a cabled throttle, while the K24a's is electronic.

hehe yea i know - was reffering to the fuel maps etc. if you converted to a cable throttle and were willing to lose the dash, vsa etc. you could use it but it'd run like shit anyway, defeating the purpose.

BusterSonic12
09-03-2007, 06:26 AM
it sucks, nothing work on our stupid aus euro.... only if we had the CL7

curik
11-03-2007, 11:25 PM
only if james is not butter-fingered!