which clutch is better

[teg94]

hey guys i want to buy a new clutch for my integra dc2 any recommendations? the car is used for a daily drive, at the moment im planning on getting a heavy duty clutch. how much can i expect to pay for a brand new heavy duty clutch and what are the downsides on getting one. any advice on clutches will be appreciated
Thanks in advanced

[aaronng]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56355

Try Exedy HD.

[teg94]

wats hd?

[gReY-oNe]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56355

Try Exedy HD.

he ment try the exedy Heavy Duty clutch

:D

umm hope that clears things up
i have one love it

[NSPYRE]

do the flywheel while ur at it as well

[simbadda54]

Go to j racing and get it done there. the mechanic knows wat hes doing

[TheSaint]

wats the diff between sports organic and HD?

[aaronng]

wats the diff between sports organic and HD?

HD has the same friction material as OEM, just with a stronger pressure plate. Sports organic uses more aggressive friction material (and usually has the stronger pressure plate too).

[mcg]

hey guys i want to buy a new clutch for my integra dc2 any recommendations? the car is used for a daily drive, at the moment im planning on getting a heavy duty clutch. how much can i expect to pay for a brand new heavy duty clutch and what are the downsides on getting one. any advice on clutches will be appreciated
Thanks in advanced

You probably won't need to buy a heavy duty clutch and there is not much point if its just a stock dc2. Heavy duty clutches can actually cause unwanted stress on the engine mounts and drive train doing more damage than good. Try going down to CATS ( Central Automatic Transmission Service ) in Rosebery. I got my clutch done there, they are very knowledgeable and im sure they can give you some good advice. Other than that, the Excedy clutches are also highly reccomended.

Good luck

[aaronng]

You probably won't need to buy a heavy duty clutch and there is not much point if its just a stock dc2. Heavy duty clutches can actually cause unwanted stress on the engine mounts and drive train doing more damage than good. Try going down to CATS ( Central Automatic Transmission Service ) in Rosebery. I got my clutch done there, they are very knowledgeable and im sure they can give you some good advice. Other than that, the Excedy clutches are also highly reccomended.

Good luck
HD clutches still use the same friction material as stock, so you can still release the clutch as smoothly and with as little stress as the OEM clutch. It's only Sports Organic and button/puck clutches that put your mounts and drivetrain understress because they act like on-off switches.

[mcg]

HD clutches still use the same friction material as stock, so you can still release the clutch as smoothly and with as little stress as the OEM clutch. It's only Sports Organic and button/puck clutches that put your mounts and drivetrain understress because they act like on-off switches.

but is this realistic, practical or necessary in a stock dc2 daily driver?

[aaronng]

but is this realistic, practical or necessary in a stock dc2 daily driver?

It is practical. I've driven a h22a prelude with the Exedy HD and it was as light as my stock Euro clutch.

Necessary, that depends. To me, it is because of particular reasons. :)

[vinnY]

i got an exedy hd in mine, its lighter than the stock clutch for some reason, still bites well though

[czy_sol87]

but is this realistic, practical or necessary in a stock dc2 daily driver?

he might wanna do some other stuff to his car later on, just cause its a daily driver doesnt mean that he doesnt wanna modify it

however if its just gonna be a daily driver and u dont wanna modify it at all then i would just go with a stock or HD clutch, as aaronng said the HD clutch plate is the same a a stock plate, only difference is the heavier pressure plate in the HD clutch
the last thing that u want is to put in a clutch that is too aggressive that might turn away potiential buyers when its time to sell up

[roar]

go for the HD clutch...i believe this is a no-brainer

if you think you may want to modify a fair bit later on...consider an organic...

[teg94]

thanx for the input!

another question relating to flywheels. why should i upgrade the flywheel? i have driven a skyline in the past and went thru 3 different clutches (due to track days and 1/4 sprints). but i never once changed the flywheel. whats the benefit?

[czy_sol87]

thanx for the input!

another question relating to flywheels. why should i upgrade the flywheel? i have driven a skyline in the past and went thru 3 different clutches (due to track days and 1/4 sprints). but i never once changed the flywheel. whats the benefit?

its up to u if u wanna do the flywheel
the flywheel wont give u a gain in numbers ie kw@wheels
but it will make ur car rev faster and more responsive, which is an advantage
ie faster accerleration

i've done it on my car and i noticed a differance between my cuz stock ek4 flywheel and mine

[Dylanamus]

I know of people with Exedy Sports Organic clutches on their daily drivers and they don't consider it a sacrifice at all.

You don't replace the flywheel due to wear, like you do with the clutch. You can replace it with a lighter weight one which allows the engine to accererate and decelerate faster. Faster response and acceleration are the upsides, faster deceleration is a disadvantage in daily driving and the extra sensitivity can make stop-start driving more difficult. It would also affect your fuel efficiency and brake wear and tear slightly.

There are flywheels that aren't too light for daily use, but provide some of the benefits associated with lightweight flys... If you are ever going to want one, you might as well get one while the clutch is getting done.

[aaronng]

I know of people with Exedy Sports Organic clutches on their daily drivers and they don't consider it a sacrifice at all.

You don't replace the flywheel due to wear, like you do with the clutch. You can replace it with a lighter weight one which allows the engine to accererate and decelerate faster. Faster response and acceleration are the upsides, faster deceleration is a disadvantage in daily driving and the extra sensitivity can make stop-start driving more difficult. It would also affect your fuel efficiency and brake wear and tear slightly.

There are flywheels that aren't too light for daily use, but provide some of the benefits associated with lightweight flys... If you are ever going to want one, you might as well get one while the clutch is getting done.

What is the weight of your lightweight flywheel?

Even if you use a light one of down to 3.9kg, it's not a sacrifice to drivability.

[TheSaint]

dont HD clutches last longer? and dont lightened fly wheels dramatically effect driving up hills?

[Dylanamus]

TheSaint: Yes. The level at which it affects the drive is affected by the difference in weight. Which is what I was trying to say. The more kilos you shed, the less inertia the fly will have, so driving that uses inertia on its side will be negatively influenced. I'm sure there are heaps of threads on this.

The bottom line is, if you are replacing a stock clutch, might as well get a HD one, but if you are thinking of increasing power or doing demanding driving, like track or drag ... then get organic. Unless you are an A to B driver, you won't complain.

[aaronng]

TheSaint: Yes. The level at which it affects the drive is affected by the difference in weight. Which is what I was trying to say. The more kilos you shed, the less inertia the fly will have, so driving that uses inertia on its side will be negatively influenced. I'm sure there are heaps of threads on this.

Going uphill with a lightweight clutch is alright. It only affects highly tuned engines without vtec. So there is very little torque at low RPM.