koni yellow adjustable

[sugz]

hey guys, ive got koni yellow adjustable but not the twist top...
just wondering does anyone knows how to adjust it?
its my rear one and its on gen5 accord.

thanks

[vinnY]

pair of plyers and twist?

[Eclipsor]

hey sugz. You can check what series it is using the serial number and check on the koni website. But I'm pretty sure it will be the same as the ones I used to have.

If so it's a pain in the ass. You have to take the shock out of the car, take the spring out. Then you push down on the rod while twisting it. When you get to the bottom you should feel it click into place. Then while keeping it compressed you can turn it either way to adjust it.

[bennjamin]

there should be a small tiny lip on the very top of the shock - its this which you adjust the damper in most koni yellow shocks.
The "height" is adjusted via 2 or 3 grooves in the shock. You move the cir-clip up or down and the entire spring perch/assembly sits on it , raising or lowering the car.

[sugz]

well from the instruction paper that comes with it, it shows that i need to push it and twist it, but doing so i need to take the whole suspension out dont i? thats what i dont want...
so is there any other way of doing it without taking the whole thing out?

[Eclipsor]

Fairly sure there isn't. The top just has the allen key hole yeah?

[SiReal]

my one has the koni knob - no need to push. just turn. Once adjusted, i just take this knob off.
see pic:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/6705/img3580smallho3.jpg

[Eclipsor]

Yeah certain series' of the koni shocks adjust in different ways. The cb/cd shocks don't have that knob on the rear. Which sucks.

[SINISTR]

there is no way of doing it otherwise - they have to be out of the car - full stop.

You don't twist them while pushing the shock in either, you push it IN all the way - then twist. I believe if you twist clockwise it will stiffen the shock, counter-clockwise will make it softer.

Best way to make them both be identical - push the rod in and turn 'counter-clockwise' while counting how many turns till it hits the end eg: 2 full turns and 1/4 turn (so you know thats your current setting).
You then turn it clockwise as many turns as you like either less than 2.1/4 or over - 3-4 etc.. then you do thesame to the other side - that way both shocks are identical setting.

And warning here Use GOOD spring compressors to compress the spring - don't try undoing the bolt without having the spring compressed securely - you risk injury!

[Eclipsor]

You don't twist them while pushing the shock in either, you push it IN all the way - then twist.

It shouldn't make a difference. Koni site says to twist while pushing in. But either way will work.



And warning here Use GOOD spring compressors to compress the spring - don't try undoing the bolt without having the spring compressed securely - you risk injury!

If you're careful you can get them off without compressors easily. Just do it with them lieing on the ground stick a pile of rags and something solid in front and behind to catch any bits. But depending what springs you're putting back on you still might need the compressors. Not an issue for the op anyway since he has GC's.

[SINISTR]

It shouldn't make a difference. Koni site says to twist while pushing in. But either way will work.

If you're careful you can get them off without compressors easily. Just do it with them lieing on the ground stick a pile of rags and something solid in front and behind to catch any bits. But depending what springs you're putting back on you still might need the compressors. Not an issue for the op anyway since he has GC's.

perhaps it doesn't make a difference, if you twist while pushing down, i suppose its something to be experimented with - i believe measuring the amount of damper adjustment is done while the strut is pushed in.

as for releasing springs without compressors - we've had this discussion before on here - as I said Its a warning, if you end up with a broken arm, a broken leg or worse don't complain - safety with compressed springs is paramount.

[bennjamin]

as for releasing springs without compressors - we've had this discussion before on here - as I said Its a warning, if you end up with a broken arm, a broken leg or worse don't complain - safety with compressed springs is paramount.



true true -= its incredibly stupid to undo a shocks upper nut without compressing the springs - as said it CAN shoot off and deflect around the room / area injuring someone , or breaking something.
Tried it once while tired and annoyed - and boy did i learn not to do it again.
*clicked* off and shot into my ankle and left a divot and freaking numbing pain for a good hr or so.

USE SPRING COMPRESSORS ! OR GET SOMEONE WHO HAS THEM!

[Eclipsor]

perhaps it doesn't make a difference, if you twist while pushing down, i suppose its something to be experimented with - i believe measuring the amount of damper adjustment is done while the strut is pushed in.

as for releasing springs without compressors - we've had this discussion before on here - as I said Its a warning, if you end up with a broken arm, a broken leg or worse don't complain - safety with compressed springs is paramount.

Yep adjustment is done while compressed. Turning while pushing it in is just part of locking the adjustment mechanism. But you can do this by turning while compressed and pushing down aswell until you feel it click into place.

I dunno. I've had enough with spring compressors. But yes I would not advise to do it this way. Just saying that personally I have done it numerous times without incident and you do it at your own risk.

[sugz]

thanks guys, prolly take it out this weekend and compress it using compressor.

so...anyone here willing to lend me their compressor? lol

[SINISTR]

Supercheap has them for about $30 i believe... good to have in a shed.

[QuaCky]

sorry guys, i'd like to ask a question about koni's. I just installed them on my car and realised the rear is sitting really high. Is this because i didnt adjust the circlip height right? my rear clip is in the middle perch. To make it lower is the perch meant to b above or below?

I think its the top, but just wanna confirm as i do not want to dismantle my rear assembly again.

[Duesta]

move the clip down to go lower, or up to go higher.. simple!

[QuaCky]

ok thanks for that. Also another thing, wen i installed my springs on the lowest perch for my rear, i could move my springs around wen it was assembled in the shock. Does this mean the perch is to low for this particular spring set up? if i install the shock with a lose spring, will the weight of the car make the spring sit properly or does this mean that the spring is too short for this particular perch?

[bennjamin]

ok thanks for that. Also another thing, wen i installed my springs on the lowest perch for my rear, i could move my springs around wen it was assembled in the shock. Does this mean the perch is to low for this particular spring set up? if i install the shock with a lose spring, will the weight of the car make the spring sit properly or does this mean that the spring is too short for this particular perch?

it isnt held captive. Dont worry , when the corner weight of the car rests on it , it will sit fine. BUT there is a possibility of the spring coming off the perch and possible noise issues or seating issues.

[BlitZ]

ok thanks for that. Also another thing, wen i installed my springs on the lowest perch for my rear, i could move my springs around wen it was assembled in the shock. Does this mean the perch is to low for this particular spring set up? if i install the shock with a lose spring, will the weight of the car make the spring sit properly or does this mean that the spring is too short for this particular perch?

its fine to move around when not installed on vehicle.. as long as once u have it on the car and the car's wheels are off the ground the spring doesnt move its fine..

all the bushing on the car will never allow the shocks to be fully extended

[QuaCky]

already tried em out, but thanks heaps for the quick reply guys.. i sorted it out already. These koni yellows are awesome. What spring set up do most ppl choose? I originally had kg//mm springs but i wasnt sure if they were a good combination, although i have installed tein s-techs. Can i possibly get a show of hands for those who r using koni setup, to let me know what they are using? Also possibly dampening settings.

[bigteethygrin]

its fine to move around when not installed on vehicle.. as long as once u have it on the car and the car's wheels are off the ground the spring doesnt move its fine..

all the bushing on the car will never allow the shocks to be fully extended

just double check the top mount after taking your car down from the jack to make sure that the spring has seated in properly. I've seen a couple seat incorrectly and stuff up the rubber inside the strut mount.