Turbo Kits in Aus - d16

[Weq]

I'm wondering who supplies/imports turbo kits for Civics in Aus, specifically something like the Greddy 92-95 (z6) kit. i'm after a kit as i wanna save money by doing the install myself - any other recommened kits are welcome.
Also prices we are looking at, ie i can get them imported from America for something like ~2800 at our current exchange rates?

[poid]

All the greddy kits i've seen are about 5-6k. Pretty much better off putting together a custom kit yourself

[Weq]

For that price, hell yes..
But i can get em over the next for $2800, as i said :)

[poid]

Sorry read that wrong :)

Have you taken account of shipping and import duty/GST?

Personally i dont really like the Greddy kits...their fuel management sucks and no cooler either.

[Weq]

yer that is shipped, what import duty do u need to pay?
I'm after something cheap, low spooling, stable and 'slightly' upgradable and most of all, proven to work well. I'm not after huge numbers, and i'll go custom with cooler, probably PWR or second hand when the cash is avaible..
Fuel management will probably be coverd by a 'hack' common used on d16's - larger injectors(440cc) with s-afc/v-afc controlling A/F. Depending on how much more boost i feel, i upgrade my pump to suit. But that will come after a few months and me getting sick of running extremely rich.

edit: read up on import duty+GST.
Add another $450 wow, may use my ABN..

[poid]

I seriously wouldnt bother with the greddy blue box at all. The "hack" isnt a bad way to go for low boost. You should upgrade the pump when using the hack.

Duty is 15% of the price of the kit, GST is 10% on the kit, shipping and duty.

For an intercooler i am looking to get one made by Custom Coach, who is a regular on the homemadeturbo.com forums. Here good things about his coolers.

[Weq]

didnt realise we had to pay so much for import duty and GST. Ive got a friend inthe US, i might have to get the kit shipped to him, and he can send me the parts in $800 clusters to avoid it.

[Jnr Teggy]

1 piece of advice to those pondering wether to turbo...

if you are going to do it....do it right the first time..

have someone make you a kit!

i.e: don't just slap one together for the cheapest you can go..

save a little longer and do it right...you will save in the long run..

Get yourself a good turbo and cooler(new is best), take it to a turbo exhaust shop and have them fabricate the pipework for you and fit all of the hardware..

Then trailer it to a performance shop and have them fit an aftermarket computer and fuel system!...a Heavy duty clutch is worth its weight in gold...perhaps even a set of forgef pistons and rods just for safety...get it tuned then presto!...one quick ass honda!

at least then you will feel safe in knowing that it will start first go in the morning! and wont break or die when you give it a hit..

[poid]

Jnr Teggy i couldn't have said it better myself dude.

Thats the EXACT approach i'm taking

[Weq]

I heed ur advice, but the greddy _kit_ is proven, what else do i need to know?
They have done the R&D and they sell kits by the dozen, that is how cheap isnt always worse.

Why do i want some performance shop to go out spent the time to fabricate everything that already exists? Why do i want some whacko EMS when the most boost i'll be pushing is 8 pounds (when finished)? That goes for a built motor also.

I know boost can be dangerous, but it doesnt have to be expensive.

[poid]

i think that was more a general bit of advice dude, going with the Greddy kit is certainly not a bad way of going about things esp. since you are going to go with better fuel management

[Weq]

Thats ok, sorry if i sounded a bit agressive, didnt mean to be.

So anyone else have some ontopic info :)?

[VTi-RT]

Greddy kit is a nice kit if you just want a small turbo system in your car, just for a bit of sound and performance. The bad thing with the kit is the hack and of course, no intercooler. The turbo will not allow you to run high boost either.

I haven't check to see what my friend can get them for, but for $2,800.00 that's sounds very cheap.

You have to remember having a turbo is like a drug, you'll be wanting more and more power when you're hooked.

[Dxs]

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/products.asp?producttype=Turbos&producttypesub=Tur bo%20Kits

TSI Extreme Turbo Kits
Acura Integra
1988-1991 Acura Integra ( fits ZC16 Motors ) T20 Turbo PSI-TSI-AI2001X $2200.00 USD

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/images/products/PSI-TSI-SI25B2X.jpg

:o

[[G]]

Weq: what do u mean use ure ABN number? can u get around customs that way :S

and as for sending it in bits of 800 dollars worth u will still get hit with customs. I ordered engine mounts which were alot less than that and still had to pay duty. Also the $800 bundles wouldnt be really worth it as shipping is fairly expensive. Cost 65 bucks US or something just for a small box containing three engine mounts.

G

[Weq]

Ive heard u can get around customs by having the shipment declared as a gift. Just make a deal witht he supplier who's giving ur buying off. As far as sendingit over individually, it would be cheaper in some cases as customs + gst on say my purchse would equal over $500 ontop of the other costs. U are only supposed to be charged import duty on shipments worth over $1000. (purchase+shipment price). My gf is going to the US at the end of the year also, so hopefully i can get something worked out..

[poid]

Ive heard u can get around customs by having the shipment declared as a gift. Just make a deal witht he supplier who's giving ur buying off. As far as sendingit over individually, it would be cheaper in some cases as customs + gst on say my purchse would equal over $500 ontop of the other costs. U are only supposed to be charged import duty on shipments worth over $1000. (purchase+shipment price). My gf is going to the US at the end of the year also, so hopefully i can get something worked out..

The gift thing often doesnt work, and if they find you trying to dodge them they could fine you. Also the $1000 thing isnt correct, i've been charged duty on items under that a number of times.

[Weq]

Well u shouldnt of been. In the guidelines that its $1000 (postal) and $250 (via ship/air). Well as far as i can tell anyways. There are so many little charges, and different import duty rates.
I spose the only real way i will be able to tell is if i ring them up and ask...

[A.C.S DRAG]

If you turbo a honda on the cheap, be prepared to turbo it again. dont waste your time and money on cheap turbo setup's honda engines were not designed to be boosted, boost them and they well break eventually. build it properly and it will last you forever not to mention you'll have a extremely fast car.

as for bringing in a turbo kit from os be prepared to pay over 1k in customs charges, gift or no gift. customs are tightarses.

if you want a turbo kit p.m me. we've turbo'd many honda's before. we currently have the 2nd fastest fwd in Victoria

[VTi-RT]

And it's running a D16A8 1.6Ltr DOHC non-vtec as well :D

[ucacrx]

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[pornstar]

Not completely tru about having a cheap = crap system. 6 to 8 psi can be had on a cheap turbo setup, and boosted reliably if the engine management is done properly. All engines from normal wear and tear will breakdown, turbos speed this up, but it aint going to happen for ages and ages unless u get boost happy and say run 20psi when ur ssytem can only take 6psi...

Greddy for 2,200 aud? good luck bro, but i fink ur mistaken. TAxes custom, frieght etc will own that price. however i did see a kit on hikariperformance.com the other day, itsa greddy kit. Check that out, its already in adelaide.

[A.C.S DRAG]

Andy, greddy kits use fuel reg and richen the fuel mixtures, to me thats not good engine management.

id go microtech as a a minimum, but then there goes up the price.

[Weq]

The greddy blue box is well known for its hard handed tactics, as soon as it see's 50% throttle it pushes injectors to 100% squirt :) The e-manage will help fix that up somebit..

re greddy price, i never said $2200. Without tax and shipping ur looking $2550 from 90% greddy retailers with our dollars current state. How u get it here is ur buisness.. i emailed the guys at hilkari about the kit, and its already sold unfortunatly.. The aussie distrubuters of greddy still havnt gotten back to me! god damn.

[A.C.S DRAG]

weg, if its as cheap as you say, id say go for it. bang for buck. any boost is good boost. once your addicted and have more money, we'll work out a bigger setup for you ;) get you in the top ten fastest fwds in aus, lol.

[pornstar]

Andy, I dont doubt that the fuel management is shitty, ill be the first to say it man, in fact id rather go with u to make a turbo kit man. :) i've seen ur turbo work man, kicks ass, just saying that cheap doesnt mean unreliable, but it does mean cheap :) ive seen cheap kits be made reliable but they make not much power...

[poid]

Well the old saying is

Choose any 2: Cheap, reliable, powerful

:D

[A.C.S DRAG]

Andy, lol its me Jon get it right bud!

[CustomCivic]

how much is it usually to get forged pistons and fitting price?

also i read something in fast fours about some place that turbos honda engines dont bother with forged pistons until they are kicking 200kw..

ive heard from other people that you shouldnt run higher than 5-8 psi with out a set of forgies but i would have thought you would need to run higher boost than this to reach 200kw....or not?

[Jnr Teggy]

forgies are really just a safeguard against poor tuning!

detonation kills pistons and forgies are a heap more durable!

[wynode]

Also remember that forgies take longer to come up to temprature and I dont recommend them unless you are planning on making BIG HP.

[Weq]

Do u guys know anyone in Syd who tunes the greddy e-manage. These things come with the kits now, and are supposed to be able to handle fuel maps, ignition etc (its still a piggy back though)...

[poid]

Going by what they do in the US, they've been getting 300hp out of the stock engine so if you plan on making more than about 250-300hp forgies and rods are a good idea. If you get a good ECU and have someone really good tune it though they arent necessary unless you are getting very serious

[CustomCivic]

so if i get a turbo kit and i wanna boost over 8psi.. say up to 14 or 15psi all i would need is a good ECU and have it tuned right.. no other engine modifications/upgrades??

[poid]

1 bar may be pushing it. I mean it has been done on stock B18 blocks, but if you were to do that i'd have some cash put away when the engine lets go.

The standard Honda MAP sensor only likes up to about 11psi boost also, so that would have to be changed. Depending on what injectors you have you may need to change them also. Cant think of anything else off-hand (i'd still advise doing pistons and rods for 1 bar, just to be safe)

[Weq]

i couldnt recommend much, if anything, over a 10psi on a stock d-series bottom end, you are toying with god 2 much by doing that :) That is with a very nice tune, pump, injectors, clutch, i/c etc.

[poid]

oh if we're talking D series i dont think they'll hold anywhere near 1 bar!

[A.C.S DRAG]

i ran 10 psi though stock internals, it lasted me 2 months b4 my rings went. but it was a hard 2 months, fun too.

[Weq]

oh if we're talking D series i dont think they'll hold anywhere near 1 bar!

This thread is entitled d series :P
b-series will hold less due to thier weaker ringlands and compression ratios.

[poid]

yeh its gone more towards turbo kits in general since then though :P

[VTi-RT]

Hmmm... mi GF's D16 has been on 12psi for a few months now...

Oh, I can vouch for John and his couple months of very hard driving :wink:

[Weq]

Rad. DId u have any temp problems with the watercooled t28? Ive heard a few horror storys with and thier setup in the cooling system..
I'm still planning on bringing the turbo kit in from the states. Just saving the cash :)

[CivicSedanMan]

didnt realise we had to pay so much for import duty and GST. Ive got a friend inthe US, i might have to get the kit shipped to him, and he can send me the parts in $800 clusters to avoid it.
Get it sent to your friend and then your friend can send it to you as a "gift" and you wont be charged any fees except the shipping charge.

Also the limit is $500AUD including the shipping charge.

[Weq]

old thread... i ended up paying $90 in import duty and gst.. =]
so to all the haters - :P

oh yeah, and to all the ppl who said the greddy kit has crappy tuning capabilities, small capacity and low potential - 10 months, zero oil loss, 11psi, daily driven madness, great compression, 155k on the clock, 260-280 per 20L of fuel, $2490 fully imported (for the basic kit) and 125kw at 8.5psi.

[Mr. Focus]

hmm. sounds like you got ya shite goin on there bro. congrats! :) you can get these kits in then i take it??

[D16A8]

Weq - 125kw at the fly or the treads? :o

[Weq]

treads. im gonna redyno at 11psi soon when i grab a new cam.

[civic__dd]

so how does a cashed up brother get hooked up round here with one of these babys:)

[Mr. Focus]

hook ups bro!

[Weq]

search google. ask any online store with a decent price how much the shipping costs to australia, give them ur state & postcode. no hookups needed, its as simple as that. shop around, USPS gave me a good shipping rate, shipping will varey greatly! the guy i delt with was off the turbod16.com forum, his email is srt_andy@charter.net . give him an email and say Weq from Australia sent u :P

[-MuGen PoWer-]

yeah i was thinking of gettin a Greddy kit from the states as well. i was worried aobut shipping and payment since its not something cheap. It would be much easier if the kit was in Sydney, saves all the hassle and worrying if its going to arrive and if the payment went through etc.

[Weq]

well i sent payment via Cheque in US dollars. THe bank assured me i could reverse it within a certain time period. Cost $20 to draw + 80c for a stamp to the US. It was cheaper then credit card, but slower, although just as safe. Try and get drawn up when the exhcnage rates are good, i did mine at about 70.5-71.5c US. WIth the money 1c was like over $20 or so...

in the end, dont expect the world for nothing. U got to do ur research. its a big purchase and u should take ur time. Order things in advance and ship slower to save money, or pick up deals when they come up. patience is a virtue. i have delt with all forms of oversea's trade - paypal, credit card, cheques and money orders from all forms of sellers (forums, ebay, online shops and more). know the seller beforehand, shop around and there is a deal to be had.

In the end though, if i wanted the kit easily accessable and on demand, i could of payed $5000 and got it....

[shecomb]

I bought a kit from the US off ebay and it came no probs. Think all up customs and duty etc. was about $500AU. This was last year with the FX rate about .75 or something

-Dave

[Rufes1]

lol, oldschool post

[CivicSedanMan]

thats good bang for buck, you have the D16A8?

[Weq]

all d-series kits are interchangable.. its a d16Y1

[Jai-VTi]

Wish u would get it into aust for me weq,
I would reward u for your efforts?

How important is E-manage tuning?I live 3hrs from Sydney so would it be a bitch(dangerous) getting the car un-tuned to sydney?


Cheers mats

[Weq]

I havnt got the capital mate! :)

the e-manage comes tuned for upto 8psi.
get some injectors and u can use various basemaps off the yahoo e-group to start u off.. any tuner could give u a pretty good tune from it within an hr or 2.

[Honda_Fools]

dun think u can find turbo kits
cause u no , theres not much dumbassses out there who wanna turbo a honda car, so its pretty difficutlt for u to find one, but anywayz u might be lucky and find some dumbasses who does supply

[Jai-VTi]

dun think u can find turbo kits.because u no , theres not much dumbassses out there who wanna turbo a honda car, so its pretty difficutlt for u to find one, but anywayz u might be lucky and find some dumbasses who does supply
06-10-2004 03:57 PM


Well your quite the retard arent u

[CRX-Ando]

dun think u can find turbo kits
cause u no , theres not much dumbassses out there who wanna turbo a honda car, so its pretty difficutlt for u to find one, but anywayz u might be lucky and find some dumbasses who does supply

Grammatical & spelling skills of a 2yr old...go watch your cartoons peabrain...

[civic_mods]

anyone outthere have a AVO turbo kits for d-series?
how much are they and are they good?
www.avoturboworld.com

[Weq]

they are OK.. but the fuel management (extra injector) is a bit dodgy, and the turbo is a tad overkill for a streeter.. the greddy turbo kit can be had for cheaper and u can add an intercooler + injectors to bring u upto spec for much under the 5k they ask.

[aStRooo]

any one have any comments on the apexi turbo kit for the civic??

[Weq]

its a good kit, but they are not made anymore. the ball bearing turbo used is basically throw away once its done, as its all apexi modified and spares arnt avaibkle.

[aStRooo]

guess i wont be goin apexi then, i've found a supplier in adel who can get the edelbrock kit in for 5.9k landed at the shop. bs price??

[Weq]

5.9k .. umm they retail for about 3.4K usd. gotta few more things then other kits so shipping will be more expesnive.. doesnt sound 2 bad - but if u import it urself u could do a bit better...

[egSi]

i will be stocking d16 Edelbrock Turbo Kits in january

[jords]

cool trav

[Mr. Focus]

are you shittin me!!! bags the first one! :)

[Weq]

why only elderbrock not greddy - something cheaper? the elderbrock will be around the pricerange of the AVO kit just with a bit better fuel management..

[na]

i have the greddy kit...installed...and im selling with the car...if i have no offer on the car i might be selling the kit only...

[egSi]

this is no joke, im in the process of gettin prices and shit soon so by january i wil have prices and stuff and im sorry weq i didnt really 100% choose edelbrock it was just offered to me so i sed yes.

note: not a joke mick!! :D

i will let everyone know when i get rock solid prices and stuff so look out D series soldiers :D

[Mr. Focus]

im serious bro. i want!! PM me, ring me, msg me as soon as you find out prices

[egSi]

im serious bro. i want!! PM me, ring me, msg me as soon as you find out prices
kabizzim my man, ill see u n friday anyways ;)

[egSi]

http://edelbrock.com/automotive/autopartsphotos/turbo/1500_engine.jpgfyi:
Performer X
Turbo Kit #1500
for Honda D16Y8 is
now available

[-MuGen PoWer-]

how much would that kit cost and is it compatible with the d16a8

[jords]

What are we looking at $$$$

[egSi]

hold on guys i am yet to find out if the d16y8 kit will work on a d16a8, not really sure.

and price well depending on what car and engine they are between 6K and 7K

pm me for more info. i dont wana spam my shit here, my site will be up by the end of the week and there will be more info there :D

[Mr. Focus]

did i mention, travs the man! and i love that pic. i want in my CRX now, yesterday even!

[egSi]

did i mention, travs the man! and i love that pic. i want in my CRX now, yesterday even!
ye thanks mick :D

[Weq]

performer X even has a hard time on a d16y1..
its not a good kit to import for all us d16 lovers :)