$25,000...

[Fitzy]

hey all.

seeing as i just received a little lump of money got my eyes set on new engine plus a few other things.

i need aout $3000 for other things (eg: nice key scratch down passenger side and a few cracks etc etc)

so now leaves me with $22,000.

i know im going to get a type r b18c5 engine thrown into my car but i wonder what else to spend on.

any ideas whether to go straight out turbo or keep n/a.

any suggestions and advice etc would help me along teh way on how to spend it on my integra and get more bang for my buck.

laters.

matt.

[dc2dc2dc2]

why not sell ur ride ? and get urself an actually ITR ?

make life so much easier for urself. :p

[destrukshn]

that duzy's old car?
22k on the motor?
either rebuild your motor, and then boost it or.

get a k series swap.
both won't dissapoint.

[Fitzy]

somehow i just prefer my car. something i want to finish for once. usually dont finish what i started so i got a chnace this time.

[Fitzy]

who you recommend to go to?

[EKVTIR-T]

Bang for your buck=Turbo.
You could put in a b18c5 but it won't feel overly impressive for the money spent.Your starting with a heavier car.
Rebuilding your current motor with boost will produce heaps more performance for your $$$$.

[Fitzy]

its just running standard b18b1 in it at the moment kms are abit high bit full rebuild would solve that.

could ls/vtec it.

[Q_ball]

It took you 2 yrs to intro urself?

[Fitzy]

yeah, been with and without internet for awhilst now,going between house to house and hospital for ahwile.

[EKVTIR-T]

Look it really depends what you want out of it.
If it's just power then build and boost your b18b,the outcome will put a smile on your face.
If its for show aswell then a k-swap would impress but budget approx 10k+.

[Mr_will]

k20a swap definately.

wont have reliability issues that you might with turbo, yet you'll still have a ridiculously quick car.
you'll still have plenty of upgrade options, ie na tuning, ITB's, exhaust, cams, management etc etc.

if you choose to go turbo though, there would be a strong argument to keeping your current engine. you can still make very very good power on a b18b. you'd be able to do a full rebuild with turbo in mind, even to the extent of stuff like ceramic coatings, if you want to

on an unrelated note, were you outside the CBD, and at one stage talking to a girl called eve, last sunday? if so, i met you haha.

[Fitzy]

hahah yeah i was outside cbd other night talking to eve.

[Fitzy]

with the rebuild who are the better ones to go see.

i have heard bad things about nova auto innovations in newcastle.

recommendations?

[jeffske]

tsk tsk tsk, you're obviously not asian. if you were, you'd know the 1st thing to do is go to star city and put ALL of it on black

[Fitzy]

hahahaha...

[Mr_will]

honestly noone in newcastle that i know of (maybe someone else has had experience with a good builder though)

i have heard very bad things from many people about nova autos in adamstown. i work at a servo, and i have had at least 4 guys come in, and when i ask them about their cars say "dont ever go to nova" etc etc. have also had a few mates with bad experiences there, but none myself, as i am not a customer.

considering the amount of money youre spending, id definately suggest getting quotes from toda, and dynodave. both seem to have excellent reputations. itd be a bit of extra travelling, but worth the time/money imo .

[AsH_]

K20A!!! ftw

[Fitzy]

whats it like trying to stuff a k20a into the integra's?

[Mr_will]

with your sort of budget, not hard at all.

someone correct me if im wrong, but i believe BADHBT's k20a integra has run a 12.7, and is relatively stock as far as engine mods are concerned.

the primary differences (willing to stand corrected here) between a b and k series swap is that for a k series you'll need new mounts, and replace the loom

there are two main questions really:

a) how much power do you want

b) are you committed either way to turbo or n/a

[rawr]

12.7 with just a k20? wow... hahah go for the k24 block k20 head :P if your gon spend all your money and go NA go for that but if you want the sound of a BOV over vtec then turbo.. its really personal preference.. either way you'll have a fast car

welcome btw :D

[d15z1SUX]

or you can be one step ahead of the game and do a k20 turbo!!!

[d15z1SUX]

or a k24 with k20 head turbo!!!

[mrwillz]

why not sell ur ride ? and get urself an actually ITR ?

make life so much easier for urself. :p

for the first time
i agree wif u

[Fitzy]

so who does everyone recommend from sydney to do it.

i willing to drive the what 1 and a half hours to sydney for it.

[Jarkz]

LS/Vtec or K20...

[VTi_b0i]

i honestly wouldnt recommend blowing that much money on a motor...but if you must, go for a properly built k24a would be the way i went.. u could make one with big power that would be great to drive...

[Mr_will]

toda or dyno dave.

[d15z1SUX]

are you a drug dealer or something? coz when do you just run into $25,000?

[defect]

he said he's been in hospital, so probably got some sort of injury which is paying him out by the lump sum. *sigh*

if it was me, ill take it to Adrian from Toda. Have only heard good things about them. And Ill definately turbo it with your budget, leave some extra cash for problems you might meet along the way. I would probably just rebuilt the b18b with a b16 head, not really your LS/vtec conversion because your motor isnt from a LS.

Also dont forget to sort the suspension too because its pretty damn hard to get heaps of power to the front wheels.

Wasnt this car a vtir? I remember when it was in Sydney, pretty good looking car. Goodluck with everything.

[Fitzy]

the engine in it is a b18b1.

its for both street and show use so either way with the k20a or the b18c5 i would be fine with it.

turbo would be nice too, although i have no problem with keeping it n/a.

wasnt lump sum either.

and not a drug dealer.

either way in which i go with the engine swap/rebuild/turbo i know i will be happy with what i get from toda or etc.

also got offered sponsership for interior. thats $3,500 for that too so budget is now down too $19,000.

[Mr_will]

not really your LS/vtec conversion because your motor isnt from a LS.



actually it is. this build originated in america, where our gsi is badged LS, so when the yanks talk about their LS/VTEC conversions, that would be a GSI/VTEC to us.

if youre using a b18a/b, with a b16a head, its ls/vtec. simple.

i think ls/vtec would be a silly way to go considering your budget. like i said before, its really all about how much power you'd like to make.

a k20a will run fast times all day, and last a long time. a turbo'd b18a/b, would tend not to last as long, and be less reliable.

personally considering the cost of the swap, I wouldnt be satisfied with the power of a b18c5.

if i was going to turbo it, i wouldnt bother converting, id just rebuild the stock engine, with a forged and balanced bottom end, low comp pistons and some chunky rods.

however all things considered, id still go the k20a for reliability.

[krovikan]

Have u considered selling ur car n using da money to get a Lancer EVO? Even if u spend 22K on da honda engine u r gonna b able to better with an evo... CRD reckon they can get 200KW at da wheel with just a new comp and tuning (2.5K roughly)

[destrukshn]

Have u considered selling ur car n using da money to get a Lancer EVO? Even if u spend 22K on da honda engine u r gonna b able to better with an evo... CRD reckon they can get 200KW at da wheel with just a new comp and tuning (2.5K roughly)
acutally there is a known tegra, with a k series motor, that left a evo for dead.
lol.

[aimre]

Yep, i seen the movie, its on youtube

[VTi_b0i]

lol badhbt.

[qstoria]

the video on youtube is an eg civic. the one that races the evo from a roll and pulls on it?

[[[d a n n y]]]

sell your car add the 25K up and get sumthing else

[[[d a n n y]]]

acutally there is a known tegra, with a k series motor, that left a evo for dead.
lol.

stock vs stock ? dont think so
spend same amount of money on the evo u'll have a quick car
amount of money marc has spent to beat a stock evo lol
not taking any credits from marc though (badhbt)

[Cold Fusion]

as he said he wants to keep HIS car, so stop the evo crap...

look at ur condition of ur car first, how are the brakes, suspension, sway bars etc, are they all in good condition? as u kno more power needs more stopping power.

now to the business end of the deal- ur spending 22k on an engine alone, so its obvious u want power, either NA or turbo u dont know...

current engine- rebuild+ turbo? no point if ur spending 22k
b18c5- fully built + turbo- is easier/cheaper than k20
k20 fully built + turbo- is the way to go if u want no cash left after heh

if i were u....check my car, make sure good brakes, suspension, sway abrs, strut bars all the suspension stuff. then id probably go b18c5 fully built turbo- as there is less mucking around, less hassle, and will take maybe less time.

my 2c

[Fitzy]

hey where did "badhbt" get all his work done for his car?

i saw that video on youtube, kills evo....

[defect]

i use to see badhbt parked in front of gpc (good performance centre)
but it had a h22a in it. dont know if the new setup was done by Charlie from GPC though..

k20a beat a evo? you'll be pouring so much money to get there. b series turbo ftw!!!

[[[d a n n y]]]

i use to see badhbt parked in front of gpc (good performance centre)
but it had a h22a in it. dont know if the new setup was done by Charlie from GPC though..

k20a beat a evo? you'll be pouring so much money to get there. b series turbo ftw!!!

it was running K20 last time but dunno wat his got now
i think K24?
dunno he changes his engine alot lol

[PaZzMaN-R]

ismr i.s. motor racing!!!!
they will do the motor work for you

http://www.ismotorracing.com/

why not invest the money or use it as a deposit on a house! its not that often you get that kind of money dropped on you. think ahead

[Jimmay]

ismr i.s. motor racing!!!!
they will do the motor work for you

http://www.ismotorracing.com/

why not invest the money or use it as a deposit on a house! its not that often you get that kind of money dropped on you. think ahead

Thats what i would do lol

[aimre]

as u kno more power needs more stopping power.



Not really, If your car can lock up the wheels now, it can lock up the wheels with a turbo. Maybe if the car got significantly heavier, then yes. If u got more powerfull brakes, all he'd do is lock up, achieving the same stopping distance.


Wat u will need is pad that can take more heat, as stopping will probably b from a higher speed, thus longer time braking. Also discs that get dissapate the heat better.

[faijai]

sell you integra,
get a type r
better basis to start from. even after throwing a motor/box in ur integra.
thats what i reckon n e way. But its your car. you seem pretty set on keeping it. keep it N.A.
buy urself a factory turbo car if u wanna go Boost.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

fck oath.... 25k on a motor....

i suggest you spend it wisely. Id suggest doing a k swap. Sell off your existing engine+running gear. K swap can usually be done for 12k. which leaves 13k for a deposit on a house....

personally i think its quite dumb spending 25k into an integra. esp a dc2 as the shape is getting old.

Also ask yourself....

you spend 25k on a 'fully sik' engine. but how often are you planning to take it to the track or actually do some real racing with it? or is it just for wank factor?

[Fitzy]

all of the $25k isnt going on the engine....i have $18k roughly set aside for the engine swap etc.

who says i dont already have a house...because i do....yes, no bullshit i already do.

i believe this is the path im following, could change,


-start $25k.
-$3k on paint touch ups, key scatch taken out, and engine bay painted.
-leaves $23k.
-$3500 on interior setup.
-leaves $18.5k.
-$18.5k spent on engine swap, possible turbo setup.
-whatevers left goes on black at star city..lol

[faijai]

holy shit thats alot of money to play with
18.5k spend on engine setup is quiet alot of money man.
spend it wisely
if ur planing on making it look like the ugly POS on ur display pic then i suggest u shove it all in a term deposit and dont ever take it out.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

all of the $25k isnt going on the engine....i have $18k roughly set aside for the engine swap etc.

who says i dont already have a house...because i do....yes, no bullshit i already do.

i believe this is the path im following, could change,


-start $25k.
-$3k on paint touch ups, key scatch taken out, and engine bay painted.
-leaves $23k.
-$3500 on interior setup.
-leaves $18.5k.
-$18.5k spent on engine swap, possible turbo setup.
-whatevers left goes on black at star city..lol


Doesnt hurt to own another house :p

are you planning to track it when its done? or will it be used for lappys at Orange grove krispy kremes?

[Fitzy]

faijai that is my pos.

pos at teh moment but with a $3500 set aside it should look better.

$18.5k on lets say the k swap and some internals, ecu and tune.

turbo if i have enough money left round or i can save that for a later date.

yeah i do want to take it down the strip a couple times and for that interior sponsership i have to compete in autosalon so i would need to put here on the dyno there.

hmm....

the possiblities....

[Fitzy]

though my car isnt just for everyone to look at...its more for me the way i want it.

[Joeyboy]

hey fitzy, any chomp change u got left u can donate to my "Joeyboy saving up for a H22a" foundation

i'll PM u my bank details, LOL

[rawr]

faijai that is my pos.

pos at teh moment but with a $3500 set aside it should look better.

$18.5k on lets say the k swap and some internals, ecu and tune.

turbo if i have enough money left round or i can save that for a later date.

yeah i do want to take it down the strip a couple times and for that interior sponsership i have to compete in autosalon so i would need to put here on the dyno there.

hmm....

the possiblities....

dont turbo a k series swap.... just stick with the NA power