Auto to Manual - Worth It?

[Leprechaun]

Just asking whether its worthwhile swapping from Auto to Manual on an eg civic hatch.. ANy ideas of headaches involved, how hard is it? ANy idea on the cost $$ of parts, plus labour. I was thinking of doing the swap and dropping in like a b16 etc. n make it a project car.. Any advice or other members experience appreciated. Thanks

[XB-16-AX]

is your EG a carby at the moment? e.g. Breeze?

if so then you will have to change the fuel tank, lines, to EFI.

chaging the engine to a B16A with a Manual tranny is not that hard, its the money that will talk.

what you will need is: - the obvious

B16A (as u referred to this engine type)
Hydro tranny
Clutch,brake,accelerator pedal assembly.
Manual ECU but can run on Auto ecu too as long as its from a B16A e.g. OBD0,1 but the mapping and redline will be shorter. (not really the best way to go)
Master/Slave clutch cylinder (this should already be with the firewall/tranny)
Shift linkages and gear shifter,
Manual 2xdriveshafts, 1xintermediate shaft.

Optional: upgrade brakes front or rear.

these are the mandatory stuff to get u going.. there maybe other bits n piece ive left out but others here will tell you.

bear in mind it also depends on the generation of the B16a u wish to use:

OBD0 B16A - Cable tranny
OBD1 B16A - Hydro tranny.

But also remember that you cannot put an engine (B16A) older than the OEM EG 92-95 engines. so best bet would be to source a half cut from a 92-95 civic/crx.

decent half cut would be approx: $2500-3500 low k's.
Labour would set u back at least $1000 - unless u do it yourself.
other mandatory stuff like: timing belt, water/oil pumps, drive belts, sparkies,oil,oil filter, fuel filter, tranny oil approx: $350
Fuel tank and with fuel pump approx: $150-250 - depends.

dont set back on an engine and tranny and loom,ecu only and try and get bits and pieces here and there, chasing parts etc. this will delay and definately be a pain in the ass.!!

hope that helps champ!

look for a half cut to make the changeover easier.

[EuroDude]

For a car worth less than 5 grand, its not worth it.

With the money you would spend on the conversion ($3000+), you can sell your EG and buy a manual EK or DC2 Teggy for $8000. Or buy a Manual EG and spend $3000 on Engine/Rice Mods

[aimre]

if your swapping the engine, you may aswell swap from auto to manual, it wont cost too much more. if not, then dont.

[yourfather]

For a car worth less than 5 grand, its not worth it.

With the money you would spend on the conversion ($3000+), you can sell your EG and buy a manual EK or DC2 Teggy for $8000. Or buy a Manual EG and spend $3000 on Engine/Rice Mods

rather rare to see a DC2 for 8k in any kind of decent condition dude.

I think if he's desperate to keep his car, he should find a B18C2 rather than a B16A

[kaze]

i just did a eg2 crx from d15+ auto to b16+ man, front cut is the way to go. Only real body mod i had to do was swap gearbox mount on the rail. this requires cutting the auto mount off and welding manual one on, figured this out after i painted engine bay -_-" , and you need to put two holes in the tunnel to support the gearstick. The rest is bolt in and off you go. Hope this helps =P