fully sick audio set up !!!

[nvmee]

hey, ive got 3 pairs of 6x9s ( i have nice friends) ... the onlything is that i cant wack them in my 6x9 slots in my door as the aftermarket ones are wayyy too big compared to the stock. what are my choices.

also, say if i could wack it onto the front door slots, is it possible to cut slots for the back doors? and ive got another slot at the back to fit 6x9s. so altogether ill have 6.

can u tell me what is needed to power these up? they are all sony xplod 200w ( to sony haters : i got them for free). i dont have a deck either, was thinking of getting one off ozhonda, think it was the pioneer8560.

id say 3 pairs of 6x9s wuld sound nice, but then again im nub so yeh

thanx in advance
simon

[NightKids]

i'd say u are pretty nub, cause 6x9s are crap & 3 of them are fully crap!

[nvmee]

i'd say u are pretty nub, cause 6x9s are crap & 3 of them are fully crap!

any experience to back that up? dont all hondas ahve like 6inches and shit stereo, i mean the low range ones. isnt the cd5 4 6x9s? notjhing wrong with an extra 2 imo

[Zilli]

mate if you enjoy the tonality, balance and sound of 6x9's, then more power to you...

i think you will find that what was put so eloquently by the previous poster was that you can get the range, clarity and reality of music through a set of combined speakers such as yours, versus a set of component, split speakers with proper crossovers to limit the range of frequency to seperate speakers that are designed to reproduce sound to a specific level.

ie, tweeters will create your high end frequency, midbass with create your mid, and woofers will create you lower frequencies.

Like i said mate, if they are good for your ears, why not, the best way to learn is to try

To answer your questions, there are many ways to "build out" your door pods to fit the bigger aftermarket speakers your planning. From prefab door pods, to you building them yourself. Basically you have to space them out to allow more room to fit the magnets in

[Bayani]

6x9's are best bang for buck, but don't offer quality.

The point of two is that they are stereo; and mixing and matching with different systems will land you in a world of a quality nightmare.

You have Sony's (known to be low quality; all show no go; I don't care if it's for free.

So You want this?

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It'll need to be set up like that so you still have stereo. It's not surround. Still Stereo; as they're 2ch.

You will need to select an amp appropriate for your speakers.

DO NOT run them straight from your H/D. As if it's not shitty quality enough as it is; running 3 sets of rear speakers on 50w MOSFET just isn't funny.

You're Peak Power, is not your wRMS output; (your sony 200w max is about 100wrms, but probably alot less than that will be pushing it for quality's sake.) so take that in to consideration.


in regards to prefab stuff, JB Hi-Fi have pods for about $60; if memory serves well.

[nvmee]

mate if you enjoy the tonality, balance and sound of 6x9's, then more power to you...

i think you will find that what was put so eloquently by the previous poster was that you can get the range, clarity and reality of music through a set of combined speakers such as yours, versus a set of component, split speakers with proper crossovers to limit the range of frequency to seperate speakers that are designed to reproduce sound to a specific level.

ie, tweeters will create your high end frequency, midbass with create your mid, and woofers will create you lower frequencies.

Like i said mate, if they are good for your ears, why not, the best way to learn is to try

To answer your questions, there are many ways to "build out" your door pods to fit the bigger aftermarket speakers your planning. From prefab door pods, to you building them yourself. Basically you have to space them out to allow more room to fit the magnets in


i never actually heard a "good system " before, just mainly cos i dontknow many people with acar decked with the stuff you just wrote. so i dont know what exactly quality sound is.

thanx for ur help

[nvmee]

6x9's are best bang for buck, but don't offer quality.

The point of two is that they are stereo; and mixing and matching with different systems will land you in a world of a quality nightmare.

You have Sony's (known to be low quality; all show no go; I don't care if it's for free.

So You want this?

[_] [_] [_]--------[_] [_] [_]

It'll need to be set up like that so you still have stereo. It's not surround. Still Stereo; as they're 2ch.

You will need to select an amp appropriate for your speakers.

DO NOT run them straight from your H/D. As if it's not shitty quality enough as it is; running 3 sets of rear speakers on 50w MOSFET just isn't funny.

You're Peak Power, is not your wRMS output; (your sony 200w max is about 100wrms, but probably alot less than that will be pushing it for quality's sake.) so take that in to consideration.


in regards to prefab stuff, JB Hi-Fi have pods for about $60; if memory serves well.




so what is an appropriate amp? like whats one channel two channel etc etc.
say a 1000w amp 2 channel. does that mean it could support say 2 pairs of speakers @ 500w each?

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thats how i want the set up to be. also how much is it providing ive got the speakers. because i dont see a point of doing this if a set package for abt 600 at strathfield is going to do a better job. entrty level stuff- ill probably be satisfied anywais. =)

and whats the 200w at hu mean, why does alpine have less watts, yet they are priced so high. and also how does a low range say 5 series compare to the 8 series pioneer, is there really much of a difference in sound quality? cause i dont think ill be needing stuff like bluetooth etc

[Bayani]

Serz.

Go to strathfield and buy a package. You'll get better results than 6 6x9's.

It's not onyl about Max Output / wRMS, but Alpine (like other excellent sound mangufacturers) make quality products. That being said; much of the stuff you see on the market are for Street / Everyday use.

All this is without taking in to account that many competition use speakers; which run into the thousands by themselves.

If you can't tell the difference; enjoy the bliss of ignorance with the sytem for strathfield. It's a cheaper; easier option for you.

[Riviera]

i never actually heard a "good system " before, just mainly cos i dontknow many people with acar decked with the stuff you just wrote. so i dont know what exactly quality sound is.

thanx for ur help


Quality sound is where you can really feel and hear your music where your body and ur ears can seperate the low freq, mid freq and high freq. and all those ones in between, the soundz coming from a high hat at the same time as hearing the lead singer belt out his best note.

i have 6inch pioneers 2 ways in the front splits in the back now splits are supposed to go in the front but would fit and wasnt in the mood for DIY they sound just fine back there btw and a clarion 600W sub non vented in the boot facing toward the front and angled down

the pioneers are producing trebble and a little bit of mid kick through the sides and i have full clarity with the voices and high hats and all your other inferior tish tish noises lol. both heard from the right and left sept when windows are down the noise just goes out the window :(

the splits are producing a bit of trebble to be hear behind me and even slightly harder mid kick toward the back which i feel through the back of my seat just ever so slightly - not running off an amp btw (they should be)

Sub - clarion 600W 300W RMS
the sub is producing the long vibrations low frequency kicks not so punchy and doof doof (amperage is poor, still a great sound)
but because you read 600W doesnt make it 600W, if you were to run it at 600W continuously it may soon blow so sad. this sub is running off a 400W amplifier 2 channel bridged but the RMS is not so high i think its only around well is 120WRMSx 2 channels bridged

bridged meaning running the subwoofer over both channels
so i have a 300W subwoofer being run at 120W
RMS - 60W x 2channels = 120Watt
MAX - 200W x2channels = 400Watt

6 6x9's will be cool but amps are needed
and most likely a set of splits in the front doors along with lol

things u need:
amplifiers/r, pods or get em customed if ur serious, u can make em too if u know how can do some splits lol some speaker cable/wire, solderin iron+solder (connector strips are quick and work best if its temporary) and i dunno its 7:47am im going to get a coffee

[nvmee]

Sub - clarion 600W 300W RMS
the sub is producing the long vibrations low frequency kicks not so punchy and doof doof (amperage is poor, still a great sound)
but because you read 600W doesnt make it 600W, if you were to run it at 600W continuously it may soon blow so sad. this sub is running off a 400W amplifier 2 channel bridged but the RMS is not so high i think its only around well is 120WRMSx 2 channels bridged

bridged meaning running the subwoofer over both channels
so i have a 300W subwoofer being run at 120W
RMS - 60W x 2channels = 120Watt
MAX - 200W x2channels = 400Watt

[/QUOTE]

really? so a 600w sub would only last so long if its abused? you make it sound so short !
subs are good, in my mates wrx he has some sort of jvc comp subs, and when i drove it. i thought it was too loud and after 10mins around campbelltown i needed a break. i just want some decent sound for decent price, and in saying that i have 6x9s so ill make the best of my resources. but like i said, if its going to cost $$about 400 + pods for amps and no deck$$ then id say just get a entry level set up for about 600~ installed. i think im pretty easily satisfied yeh?

[Drew]

Ehuhuhuhuh bro ... au cuz 6*9s are fully sick ehuhuhuhuhuhh

Sell them and get a pair of 6s

[dsp26]

afaik all 6x9s int he market are 4ohm... if you wire 3 per side in either series or parallel you'll blow something.

the proper way to set it up as 2ch would be:

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it is a combined series/parallel to maintain 4ohms. a straight series setup will add the impedance while a straight parallel setup will keep halfing.

this is what i mean:
http://www.electronixwarehouse.com/education/amplifiers/impcalc.htm

[rawr]

subs arent meant to be cranked to the top so much that all you hear is bass... your mates rexy was probably like that,

[nvmee]

subs arent meant to be cranked to the top so much that all you hear is bass... your mates rexy was probably like that,

yeh, like it deadset no joke killed my life man, like he had speakers, but standard i think. the base was crazy
and also can anyone back up wat dsp 26said?

[Drew]

It's bass not base for starters...

I'd invite you do my house to listen to my speakers in the lounge... But you would probably just rob my house the following day

Those things rattle the windows at the other end of the house... The bass is so incredibly deep it's phenomenal and truly unbelievable that it's all coming from only two speakers... While at the same time you can hear even the highest note played... The bass is enough to give you an irregular heart beat

I've listened to music on many out of the box home theaters and even in many cars where people have spent thousands on the system and comparatively they sound muffled...

You hear things that you have never noticed before in the music... If you close your eyes you can tell exactly where each particular sound is coming from...

Heck even a proper theater fails to please me when it comes to the audio... Gold Glass cinema's are mostly adequate, but still I'd rather watch movies at home

Once I get a projector... watch out Hoyts

The most fun you can have with your pants on

6*9s are shit...

[Riviera]

[/QUOTE]
really? so a 600w sub would only last so long if its abused? you make it sound so short !
subs are good, in my mates wrx he has some sort of jvc comp subs, and when i drove it. i thought it was too loud and after 10mins around campbelltown i needed a break. i just want some decent sound for decent price, and in saying that i have 6x9s so ill make the best of my resources. but like i said, if its going to cost $$about 400 + pods for amps and no deck$$ then id say just get a entry level set up for about 600~ installed. i think im pretty easily satisfied yeh?[/QUOTE]

what i meant to say was that if i were to abuse my system at this stage the bass will be distorted i will have no bass really and and sub will blow.

and also that if i ran the sub at a constant 600W RMS it will blow because the sub is only rated 300W RMS 600W max.

the 600W RMS from the amp will be sumthing like a 1200W max amplifier 600W RMS that would be perfect to run 2 of my subs but then would have to look at the ohms its a 4ohm sub wana check that the amp runs both at 4ohm (impedence)


a mate of mine just got all his alpine gear installed into his 4runner over friday and partial on saturday
previously owned
6 1/2 inch splits in the front
6x9's in the rear
bought friday
got a Type-r along with a V12 amp in a package|

pumpin but thats an expensive system very very $1300 for that installation sub amp and genuine alpine sub enclosure included

loans help lol

[Drew]

$1300 isn't too bad... The speakers I want are $1200 =/

But there are other things further up the list... New speakers for the car is in like the 10th place

[beayni85]

haha 1300 is cheap, just one of my subs is more than that :P distortion in ur mates system is proberly whats hurting your ears, jvc isnt exactly an spl or a sq system. 6x9's are a poor excuse for a speaker. i tune home audio systems up the the value of almost a mil. a car should only have round speakers. u need a tweeter for your front stage and a midrange driver, and you need a sub in your boot. each speaker has its frequency range, and its reached by being a uniform shape, unlike a 6x9

[Bayani]

yeah, 1.3k is comparitavly cheap; I got my system alone for 2.8; and then another $600 for the install.

[Vinnie]

any experience to back that up? dont all hondas ahve like 6inches and shit stereo, i mean the low range ones. isnt the cd5 4 6x9s? notjhing wrong with an extra 2 imo

LOL

rear 6x9's and front 6.5's actually, i dont know of any car thats stock audio system comprises only 4 6x9's.

hopefully uve come around from that dumb idea tho by now anyway, it wood sound much much worse than any decently setup front split/sub system.

oh and manufacturers jus use 6x9's coz theyre cheap and dont require anywhere near as much power or space as a sub. if ur on a really tight budget go to jb or sumthin (ive had previous bad experiences with strathfield) but if i was u ide go to a more specialised car audio place that can help u get decent gear and do a good job installing it.

[iket]

mate just for street cred, please don't install 3 pairs of 6x9's, they will sound dead set shit and everyone will laugh at you! Trust me I used to work at Strathfield (Dodgy) Car Radios, and the amount of people coming in with shit sounding systems outnumbered half decent set-ups

You'd be better off getting a pair of splits for the front and 6x9's for your parcel tray all running off the deck, rather than have three pairs of 6x9's running from an amplifier/s.

afaik all 6x9s int he market are 4ohm... if you wire 3 per side in either series or parallel you'll blow something.

the proper way to set it up as 2ch would be:

-[_]-[_]-
|--[_]--|

it is a combined series/parallel to maintain 4ohms. a straight series setup will add the impedance while a straight parallel setup will keep halfing.

this is what i mean:
http://www.electronixwarehouse.com/education/amplifiers/impcalc.htm

And by the way a series-parallel setup still will blow something up as you will be running 2.67 ohms on a 4 ohm channel. This means the speakers will draw up to 1.5 times more power due to the lower resistance and blow up the sony (shit) xplods :thumbsup:

you cannot use a series or parallel set up either as you will get a 12 ohm load if three speakers are in series; not enough power, and a 1.3 ohm load if in parallel; too much power.

In short keep one pair for your parcel tray if you like the xplods and ditch the other two please. I'm only helping you save face

[bigjo5]

if ur strap for cash then just sell 2 of the 6.9 and get a pair of splits so u have a combination of bass from the 6.9 and the treble from the splits

[mqt55s]

It's bass not base for starters...

I'd invite you do my house to listen to my speakers in the lounge... But you would probably just rob my house the following day

Those things rattle the windows at the other end of the house... The bass is so incredibly deep it's phenomenal and truly unbelievable that it's all coming from only two speakers... While at the same time you can hear even the highest note played... The bass is enough to give you an irregular heart beat

I've listened to music on many out of the box home theaters and even in many cars where people have spent thousands on the system and comparatively they sound muffled...

You hear things that you have never noticed before in the music... If you close your eyes you can tell exactly where each particular sound is coming from...

Heck even a proper theater fails to please me when it comes to the audio... Gold Glass cinema's are mostly adequate, but still I'd rather watch movies at home

Once I get a projector... watch out Hoyts

The most fun you can have with your pants on

6*9s are shit...


so what kind of equipment are you running in your lounge? $1000 sony package(lol)? $100,000 krell package? very interested to know