Gruppe-M purchase! & review w/ pics

[XP02ED]

ah alright

well after resetting my ECU i can feel the difference, in speed aswell
just to let everyone know! make sure u reset your ECU! :D

[didz]

So mikul, comparison between Injen and GruppeM please :D

[[RSX 03]]

ah alright

well after resetting my ECU i can feel the difference, in speed aswell
just to let everyone know! make sure u reset your ECU! :D

How did you reset your ECU la?

Steps PLease!! :thumbsup:

[mikul_ha]

ok, so where do I start? lol

first thing first, there is a sound difference between the two. i would say that the injen gives off a louder roar when you vtec, as for the gruppem its more of a louder scream. but the injen is much much louder then the gruppem, probably coz the injen is more open and not enclosed in a box.

after having the injen for a while and now the gruppem i did notice that the low-mid rev range is more responsive. i have to get use to blipping when down shifting again lol. to me i guess low-mid response will only affect the way you drive your car day to day as in more throttle or less. if you were to compare in drag, i dont think it will make much of a difference.

going from stock to the injen, there was a noticable i mean noticable gain in top end when you vtec. you know that feeling when you chuck in a new mod after driving your stock car for a while... you can really notice the difference, its a good feeling lol :thumbsup:

going from injen to gruppem i didnt notice a thing. i wouldnt say one intake gains more then the other. vteced it many times with the gruppem and i seriously cant tell the difference in pull compared to the injen.

i also got my gf to test drive my car (full rev range) and tell me the difference, and she confirms what i have said. just in case it was all in my head because i just spend a shiit load on an intake lol.

end of the day, if you got cash to blow, then go the gruppem but if you want something thats close to it and cheaper, then the injen wont disappoint you! :)

[aaronng]

;1211232']How did you reset your ECU la?

Steps PLease!! :thumbsup:

Pull off the negative battery terminal and leave for 5 minutes.

[XP02ED]

what aaronng said, and let it run for about 10 minutes on idle

hmmm make sure u got ur radio password ;D

[guwarkjay888]

Well considering this is a Gruppe-M thread.

I thought some people might be interested.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68762&highlight=Gruppe+M

[[RSX 03]]

what aaronng said, and let it run for about 10 minutes on idle

hmmm make sure u got ur radio password ;D

how did you get your power windows to work again after?

[aaronng]

what aaronng said, and let it run for about 10 minutes on idle

hmmm make sure u got ur radio password ;D

You don't need to let it idle for 10 minutes. You only need that if you reset your idle data and that is done using the Honda tester unit.

[aaronng]

;1213289']how did you get your power windows to work again after?

You mean the driver's auto up/down? Just hold it down as the window opens and keep holding it for an extra 5 seconds after it is fully down. Then pull the switch up and keep holding it for an extra 5 seconds after it is fully closed.

[XP02ED]

hahah yeh rsx i got scared even with my power sun roof.. just let the car run for awhile for the power to sync in..

gruppm can be bought for 800-900 of hoya from gruppm directly ;D

oh, i was under the impression that when u restart the ECU, and let it idle for abit it can tell the new mod and settles into it?

[EL_DC5]

To reset the ECU you take the fuse out. What the hell are you guys on about taking the battery off????

[destrukshn]

To reset the ECU you take the fuse out. What the hell are you guys on about taking the battery off????
the fuse is the back up fuse, which breaks the circuit, which means there is no power.
it's the same process as taking the terminals off the battery.

[EL_DC5]

the fuse is the back up fuse, which breaks the circuit, which means there is no power.
it's the same process as taking the terminals off the battery.

So why would you take d/c the battery for 10 min if you can take the fuse out for 5 sec. Leaving your pwr window function, running properly, and not locking your radio/cd player, etc.

If you want to reset the window function, there are instructions in your manual, you have to hold it down all the way then hold button halfway up all the way then let go and hold it all the way up for 5 sec if you done it properly you will feel a click

[aaronng]

So why would you take d/c the battery for 10 min if you can take the fuse out for 5 sec. Leaving your pwr window function, running properly, and not locking your radio/cd player, etc.

If you know which fuse to pull, then yeah, pull it. But many people are not as technically-inclined, so it would be easier to tell them to pull off the negative terminal, rather than try to guess which fuse is for the ECU.

[EL_DC5]

Well the location and the fuse number is in the Car manual.

[aaronng]

Well the location and the fuse number is in the Car manual.

Unlike you and me, a large proportion of people don't RTFM. LOL.

[XP02ED]

i took out my battery because it was late at night and i couldnt be ****ed opening the fuse and looking for it

dc5 uses small fuse. + i made a post earlier about the bloody fuse box pictures! i as it doesnt say which fuse is which in WRITING!

anyone know how to get this !

[EL_DC5]

i took out my battery because it was late at night and i couldnt be ****ed opening the fuse and looking for it

dc5 uses small fuse. + i made a post earlier about the bloody fuse box pictures! i as it doesnt say which fuse is which in WRITING!

anyone know how to get this !

I dont know about the R but my S has it all in the manual, even my mum can change a fuse.

[wuism]

there are 2 ways to reset the ECU,

1. to take out the ECU fuse next to the battery
2. unplug the -ve terminal of the battery and leave it there for 10-15 min.

[XP02ED]

there are 2 ways to reset the ECU,

1. to take out the ECU fuse next to the battery
2. unplug the -ve terminal of the battery and leave it there for 10-15 min.

thats already been covered, were now talking about the dc5 fuse box as it shows pictures and no words..

[EL_DC5]

Any pics or examples of tweaks ppl did to fit the Intake better, tighter padding. ect.

[XP02ED]

heres some sounds :

click here (http://xposed.au.com/typervtyper.wmv)

[RxAMZ]

hey guys, does the Gruppe M Ram Intake come with an air filter or is it just an intake box? sorry Im a noob.

[will.i.am]

niicceee...cheap too

[XP02ED]

It comes with a K&N Cone filter ;D,
Basically Comes with:

Box, Heat Shield, Scoop, New Cowl Top and all the screws and oil piping

Everything you need to get you going ;D

[EL_DC5]

Hey i lost a small screw/ bolt on my drag, where can i get the same size screw that goes from the brace to the car bracket. I want it black so it dont stand out

[XP02ED]

what was your figures el_dc5?

:D

and do u have any other mods

[EL_DC5]

Almost 124kw atfw, no mods besides gruppeM intake.
I should have taken the Dyno b4 intake ay! Stupid bastard

[XP02ED]

very nice figures for just an intake

was there air blown onto the car or anything?
i really should get my car dynoed

[EL_DC5]

There was not, they did put it on for the fist fwd but they turned it off cause it was blowing shit to the ppl/bbq. they had it to low for the gruppeM anyway

[XP02ED]

ah alright kool koo, good gain hahah

[EL_DC5]

has any S dyno'd there car b4 mod

[MRK20A]

Hey EL_DC5 where did you get your car dynoed? How much did it cost (and any other details you want to add)

[XP02ED]

ooo any other places? im gna do it this friday! im a budget atm, but 50 sounds good

[EL_DC5]

Does toda Charge $50 for a Dyno????

[XP02ED]

ooo!

i got mine done yesterday at Bels Garage - 65 bucks..

Brian, the guy i dealt with told me to try dyno dave as i live closer to him hahah.. although he was a good bloke

[VTAKYO]

err how u pay for this ... did u guys pay in aus dollars or yen, if yen how u convert from aus to yen ..

[[RSX 03]]

you just go to the bank, tell them how much you want to deposit & they'll convert it for you.

[VTAKYO]

errr why didnt u tell me wen i ask u u said u dunno

[VTAKYO]

so i have to go to the bank or can i do it online wif netbanking and will they convert it for me automatically and charge me the fee

[mikul_ha]

i paid in yen via net bank. you have to set up international transfers tho by calling up commbank. after that just follow the instructions on netbank.

[XP02ED]

hahaha if your getting directly from gruppem you should be able to pay by Credit card too

Ive got 2 comming :D 1 already sold!

[VTAKYO]

so paying wif credit card the the company converts it for u or wat

[EL_DC5]

if your going to order some more can you get me the screw set or that hole bag of bits you get. cause i didnt use lock-nut stuff and i lost some screws and i need the plastic clips.

[EL_DC5]

so paying wif credit card the the company converts it for u or wat

Your CC company converts it and they charge you like 1.5% for the conversion.

it safe dude i bought mine thro GruppeM japan, Hoya nice guy. even sent me a replacement cowl top at GruppeM's expence
best thing ever for my car

[aaronng]

if your going to order some more can you get me the screw set or that hole bag of bits you get. cause i didnt use lock-nut stuff and i lost some screws and i need the plastic clips.

You should be able to source equivalent nuts, bolts and screws from your local nuts and bolts shop.

[EL_DC5]

You should be able to source equivalent nuts, bolts and screws from your local nuts and bolts shop.

To be honest with you. I dont have the time to invest in looking for them at the moment. and the vibration of the intake is driving me nuts. I would be greatful if someone could get another set if there getting something from GruppeM japan.:p

[VTAKYO]

ok payed by wire transfer lets see how long it takes !!

[VTAKYO]

ok got it installed cannot feel any difference in top end to my knn sri tho just abit more responsive low end **dissapointed**

[m0nty ITR]

ok got it installed cannot feel any difference in top end to my knn sri tho just abit more responsive low end **dissapointed**

You may have been expecting too much. I had the Injen CAI fitted 2 weeks ago and I'm really happy with the results. I didn't expect a power gain, just better throttle response and a tougher note. That's exactly what I got. It's a little quicker on cold nights.

[XP02ED]

ok got it installed cannot feel any difference in top end to my knn sri tho just abit more responsive low end **dissapointed**

so your saying that your KNN typhoon was better?

[EL_DC5]

ok got it installed cannot feel any difference in top end to my knn sri tho just abit more responsive low end **dissapointed**

Reset your ecu by pulling out the ecu fuse and then run it again.

and in summer you would feel more of an increase, due to the engine bay being hotter

[EL_DC5]

any body know where to get the clips and screws for the gruppeM from.

[VTAKYO]

so your saying that your KNN typhoon was better?

nah, top end pull is the same to me but i can def feel a difference down low aahahahah damn was expecting more

[XP02ED]

what other mods do you have?

[VTAKYO]

nothing :(

[XP02ED]

once u get a full exhaust system you should notice alot of wheelspin when giving it hard

[EL_DC5]

What id you have ATS LSD and Semis?????

[freewilly]

thats nice, man i got a top fuel cfb air intake, its just a straight pipe, i want 2 get wat u have for my DC5r, how much would it be around now?

[BusterSonic12]

;1184832']

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1715/img1028nf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

any risk driving it in the rain? or washing your car? cos from the photos, it looks like there's a scoop sorta thing? also is any cutting required to fit this? or is it simply just bolt on?

[steebs]

theres a drain hole at the bottom of the intake for water drainage,
it comes with a replcament cowl, u take OEM off, and fit the gruppeM replacement.

[BusterSonic12]

sweet. thanks. i will order one later from hongkong or something. just that the water going always been my worry, now it's solved LOL

[SuperSteve]

how about if u drive in heavy rain. Surely that lil hole at the bottom of the cant drain a whole heap of water at once ?? anyone live in sydney and drivin there car in the heavy rain past couple of weeks ?? how there intake go ?? also with the drain hole does the water drip only any hot mechanical parts ?? ive ordered 1 gruppe m intake and im just paranoid about the whole water into the intake issue

[air23box]

This been cover so many time and also in different forums......there is no issue in regard to water problem.....either gruppeM or Mugen....you are thinking too much.....it will be fine...

[Mattski_VTIR]

This been cover so many time and also in different forums......there is no issue in regard to water problem.....either gruppeM or Mugen....you are thinking too much.....it will be fine...

Exactly, apart from completely submerging the intake :p you will have no problems :thumbsup: Just enjoy it:D

[tectalk]

IS the gruppem as loud as the k&n SRI when ingaging vtec?

[MMike]

Mad shit man!

Always been a fan of your R! Keep it up men ^_^

[SuperSteve]

sorry to bring up this thread again but did u guys who purchased the gruppe m intake also receive the cleaner aswell ??

[Mattski_VTIR]

No i didn't receive the cleaner kit, although the filter was pre-oiled.. U can just grab the K&N recharge kit from Autobahn etc

[SuperSteve]

ahhh sweet nps thanks for that infomation there mate :)
May i just say this is a freaken crazy intake and well worth the money i spent

[Mattski_VTIR]

They sure are, glad you like it :thumbsup:

[BusterSonic12]

I'm ordering a gruppe m intake along with a friend next week =) soo excited about it since everyone saying all the positive stuff about it :thumbsup: i see people replaced the intake piping with k&n, is there any gain or reason in doing so? also gruppe m for Type R and S is the same? because my friend drives a type s just wanna make sure. Thanks guys!! :D

[iversonruls]

how much r u getting them for??

[BusterSonic12]

how much r u getting them for??

$850 posted

[Mitsubishi]

*bump

Yeah I can vouch for the Gruppe M intake! Absolutely quality work. Worth every penny, and you'll definitely know why once it arrives and installed.

Also, does anyone know where to get the K&N piping?

[iversonruls]

$850 posted
where did u order it??

[BusterSonic12]

checked the EMS tracking number thing last friday & indicated that it was in japan's international postoffice branch. then monday when i got home after work. CARBON BLING YO sitting in my room waitin for me to open it. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/tiu_le/My%20Type%20R/DSC09002.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/tiu_le/My%20Type%20R/DSC09003.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/tiu_le/My%20Type%20R/DSC09004.jpg

[mikul_ha]

where did u order it??

email hoya@gruppem.co.jp
"I've heard that you are holding a discount campaign for the gruppeM DC5."
bla bla bla

[BusterSonic12]

finally. adjustment made by adding cushioning tape to absorb the rattling noise and now it is perfect, zero rattle when applying 100% throttle. The intake quality is superb, performance as well and especially the sound, the vtec crossover is CLEAR noticeable, just like the traditional vtec. 100% worth buying!!

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/tiu_le/My%20Type%20R/DSC09009.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/tiu_le/My%20Type%20R/DSC09011.jpg

[XP02ED]

need to make sure u open it up every month at least as u will be suprised what gets in there!

[BusterSonic12]

need to make sure u open it up every month at least as u will be suprised what gets in there!

lol alright, cats? potatoes? hahahaha
how often do we need to clean the filter? do we just go buy the K&N recharge kit?

[Mitsubishi]

xposed, what have you had in there? lol

[XP02ED]

my mates had tampons in there, just depends..

people may knoe if u have a gruppem and shove sumtin in for the fun of it..

if had tissue in mine one time!

[EL_DC5]

Leaves and tree stuff i find in mine all the time

[blk_shadow]

has anyone tried to fit the intake with aluminium piping yet? (instead of the OEM black plastic one)

[EL_DC5]

I need to do somthing like that cause my oem plastic shit cracked

[blk_shadow]

I need to do somthing like that cause my oem plastic shit cracked

yeah, I wonder whether they will fit and sit exactly like the plastic one's does.

[Mattski_VTIR]

My OEM intake pipe cracked after a couple of months, obviously its moving more with engine torque (standard air box moves with engine, gruppe-m
s movement is much less because its sitting against the strut brace).. wonder if replacing with metal could cause damage to the intake at all...

[EL_DC5]

I think I mite go the silicone piping instead tho

[XP02ED]

has anyone tried to fit the intake with aluminium piping yet? (instead of the OEM black plastic one)

look at the start, i did. i customised a knn typhoon top

[BusterSonic12]

how often do you guys clean your filter? do you just use the K&N recharge kit?

[blk_shadow]

look at the start, i did. i customised a knn typhoon top

ah right, cool. but I see you chopped it abit to suit the length.

[crazyazn]

Just got mine from Hoya and installed it! Wow is all i can say! This thing is a real beast of a modification. With my buddyclub PRO spec III cat back this thing sounds off its guts! Have to give a big thank you to all who posted for convincing me to get one. Paid $900 shipped!

[BusterSonic12]

Do you guys have a problem with the gruppe m where it keeps on popping out, and leaning more towards the passenger side? Is it because the engine rocks too much?

[XP02ED]

are u using the stock piping?

[Hullabaloo]

popping out from where?

[XP02ED]

from the cowl top, i think he means

i had a custom intake piping which is how i fixed it.

[XP02ED]

has anyone tried to fit the intake with aluminium piping yet? (instead of the OEM black plastic one)

and i did.. no issues and good bling

[BusterSonic12]

from the cowl top, i think he means

i had a custom intake piping which is how i fixed it.

yep. i'm still using stock piping.
This isn't occurring for you people? just me? if i get a mugen front strut brace, would it fix the problem so there will be no room for it to pop out.

[aaronng]

I would use 3M VHB tape to secure it down to the cowl.

[XP02ED]

no dont use a tape, its useless as theres to much pressue, and ur not the only one having this issue.

the issue is that when u launch your car engine pushes back and forth which causes the intake to follow and the piping aint stiff which when out of place it stays there.

ur problem is that it isnt sitting on the cowl top after driving right. go to supercheap and buy 3" silicon extention ( get black) and some clamps and extend it from the gruppem to the stock piping.

costs about 10 from memory for it, usually used for turbo setups for the piping connection

[BusterSonic12]

no dont use a tape, its useless as theres to much pressue, and ur not the only one having this issue.

the issue is that when u launch your car engine pushes back and forth which causes the intake to follow and the piping aint stiff which when out of place it stays there.

ur problem is that it isnt sitting on the cowl top after driving right. go to supercheap and buy 3" silicon extention ( get black) and some clamps and extend it from the gruppem to the stock piping.

costs about 10 from memory for it, usually used for turbo setups for the piping connection

YES that is exactly the problem. When i was down at ozhonda trackday, i saw charger intake and another dc5 as well. the gruppe m rubber is more worn on the passenger side.

[XP02ED]

yeh its coz of constant rubbing from the intake rubber surround to the cowl top.

Its cause the gruppem has now support on the back besides the 1 mount it has support on which doesnt stablize it. the stock piping is short which if you by the silicon thingo to extend it will fix the issue and to stop the rubbing grinding the cowl top, u can buy door stop adhesive rubber.

although this wont rely work as constant rain etc wil tear it.

[BusterSonic12]

ok after securing airbox to prepare for track so it doesn't move around. After the first session on the track, the intake piping has a slit in it, could this be because there are no room for the airbox to move around?

Should i replace it with a new stock piping? or should i go something else?

[EL_DC5]

That happened to me as well. it happened cause i clamped the hose first b4 all the other adjustment. I got another one and secured the gruppem then clamped the hose. hasn't broken at all,

If it ever breaks again i mite get a KNN pipe and modify it like some else did here b4

[chargeR]

ok after securing airbox to prepare for track so it doesn't move around. After the first session on the track, the intake piping has a slit in it, could this be because there are no room for the airbox to move around?

Should i replace it with a new stock piping? or should i go something else?

My intake pipe split after a while with the Gruppe M. I replaced it with a new one from Honda. I don't remember how much it cost be but I don't think it was very cheap. You may be better off getting something aftermarket, just don't get one of those stupid aluminium pipes.

[EL_DC5]

just don't get one of those stupid aluminium pipes.

???????????????????????
what stupid aluminium pipes :confused:

[chargeR]

???????????????????????
what stupid aluminium pipes :confused:

For example ARC:

http://www.modacar.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/arc_complete_intake.jpg

[BusterSonic12]

but if i go back with the stock piping, wouldn't the plastic crack a slit open again?

[Chi]

For example ARC:

http://www.modacar.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/arc_complete_intake.jpg

You dont buy ARC for its function, you buy it for its bling.

[bungsai]

hahah i wrapped my strut brace in roll cage foams and it holds my gruppe m in place very well.

ghetto as though.

[BusterSonic12]

hahah i wrapped my strut brace in roll cage foams and it holds my gruppe m in place very well.

ghetto as though.

That is something i should try out lol maybe i will order myself a mugen front strut brace when the yen go back to 65-70yens lol

I guess i should just buy another stock intake pipe? At the moment, i just wrapped the slit over with racing tapes.

[bungsai]

theres a J's racing one going cheap on CITR if you want.

[iversonruls]

hahah i wrapped my strut brace in roll cage foams and it holds my gruppe m in place very well.

ghetto as though.

where can i get those foam??

probably the best way :thumbsup:

[bungsai]

i got it from clark rubber. if ur in melb you can have my leftovers.

[_matt07]

how mcuh was it?

[mrntegra]

when i put my gruppeM in it was making so much noise! Clark rubber just go buy some foam with the adhesive and put some in a couple of places like firewall and on the bottom of your strut bar(were u cant see it) and no more noise.. (well if there is noise i dont hear it on vtec!!)

[BusterSonic12]

when i put my gruppeM in it was making so much noise! Clark rubber just go buy some foam with the adhesive and put some in a couple of places like firewall and on the bottom of your strut bar(were u cant see it) and no more noise.. (well if there is noise i dont hear it on vtec!!)

all i can find was double sided one, can u direct me on where to purchase single sided adhesive foam tape

[XP02ED]

bringing back a dead thread.

can anyone confirm the length of there intake on the top inlet which sits on the cowl top?

where the rubber is and the length of the rubber ?

[neil1112]

I'm planning to buy a gruppe m. Any one want to group buy?

[R123]

Top quality Intake, great sound combo for me..

Ms intake + stock header + Mugen twin loop and instantly the sound coming from the car justify the spending for DC5 imo, very happy with the intake. Wouldnt have done it any other way.

i also notice mid range improvement in 2/3/4 gear too... which is what i want.
If you perfer deep note instead loud then twin loop is the way to go,

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/jsqually/DC5/DSC01726.jpg

[cskfai]

Top quality Intake, great sound combo for me..

Ms intake + stock header + Mugen twin loop and instantly the sound coming from the car justify the spending for DC5 imo, very happy with the intake. Wouldnt have done it any other way.

i also notice mid range improvement in 2/3/4 gear too... which is what i want.
If you perfer deep note instead loud then twin loop is the way to go,



Cool! Glad to hear your positive comment on the GruppeM. I have bought one too, just waiting for shipping. And I'm running same set up with you (stock header + Mugen twin loop) on my ep3. Can't wait them to arrive my door!!!

[R123]

^ well done dude, i think u gona love the set up... haha

[HauLe_]

Hey guys. Sorry for reviving old thread, I didnt want to start a new thread. Just wondering if anyone elses gruppe m intake makes a funny noise like a fake turbo whistle. I didnt install the intake as i bought it with one. The noise does my head in sometimes. It only happens when I accelerate. Can someOne help me?

[r3ckless]

Thats the noise from the gruppm

[bennjamin]

Hey guys. Sorry for reviving old thread, I didnt want to start a new thread. Just wondering if anyone elses gruppe m intake makes a funny noise like a fake turbo whistle. I didnt install the intake as i bought it with one. The noise does my head in sometimes. It only happens when I accelerate. Can someOne help me?


More likely a slight crack in intake pipe , or gap in pod filter or gap some where that unfiltered air is sucking thru.
Check the hose clamps on the intake arm and the gruppe m intake and pod itself.
I have a gruppe m on a ep3 and no such noise. Actually it's a very subtle deep
Tone until vtec in which it makes a nice brassy note

[HauLe_]

Thats what i was thinking too. Maybe theres a leak in the pipe or somewhere. Will take it apart this weekend to check it out