Apexi AFC

[serpo]

Hey all im building my turbo kit and I keep hearing that the ECU is the most important thing, now im broke as a joke and I stumbled across an Apexi Neo AFC 2007 model. I was wondering if there any good and will they tune my car for a tubro application???

[Drew]

Have you considered chipping your current ECU with something like Uberdata or Crome instead?

[serpo]

Have you considered chipping your current ECU with something like Uberdata or Crome instead?

ye but I tired to use TurboEDIT but its hard to change the Ignitiopn and Fuel maps and no1 will help me

[Drew]

Try uberdata or crome the support generally is better

Theres basemaps n such for a lot of FI applications already that you can use and just tune so you dont start from scratch

[serpo]

ye, tuning is hard, got any writeups on how to tune? sorry for being a n00b but no1 ever helps me with this stuff

[040501912]

you wouldnt want to tune ur self :p might blow ur engine mate... dont take the risk unless you know what you are doing ..

mate of mine playing arround with AEM EMS .. on his car.. take it for a run on freeway .. 5 mins ... BANG ...

oil every where. smokes coming out. when we open the engine .. 2 piston melted to the crank and the shaft was bent... engine block had a big hole on the bottom.

and thats N/A .. wonder what turbo will look like ..

you can try APEXI NEO or VAFC/SAFC to tune ur car .. cheaper :p some website has the configuration for turbo using VAFC .. i found it b4 ..

[Drew]

It's not that it's hard but you will need a whole lot of stuff to tune it with, not counting a dyno probably close to a grand of stuff give or take

So it's normally better to pay someone else if its a one off...

If you're going to be doing more than one car or multiple tunes for the same car then yeah it could be worth while

Uberdata had some pretty decent tutorials if you would even take a moment to use google to find their forum

[serpo]

It's not that it's hard but you will need a whole lot of stuff to tune it with, not counting a dyno probably close to a grand of stuff give or take

So it's normally better to pay someone else if its a one off...

If you're going to be doing more than one car or multiple tunes for the same car then yeah it could be worth while

Uberdata had some pretty decent tutorials if you would even take a moment to use google to find their forum

ye ive been googlein like foreva it feels like lol, but didnt come up with anything, im a bit disapointed, like I have to use TurboEDIT cos I have a CRX 88

[Drew]

Just get a OBD1 ECU from a newer car maybe?

[serpo]

you used it before?

[Drew]

Used what Crome?

[kid_dynamite]

Sounds like you are turboing an N/A, I probably wouldn't recommend an Apexi Neo. It only adjusts AFRs and ideally I would think you'd want to adjust ignition timing as well. Perhaps in tandem with an Apexi Super ITC if you find it, but something like the eManage would be good (or I'm sure one of the other suggestions).

[040501912]

apexi ITC = $150 from japan
VAFC I = $200

there u go a cheap complete management
air fuel ratio and timming :)

[De_Cruelz]

AFC Neo is certainly not the best management system for turbo applications. There's a whole lot of other ECU's such as Hondata, Microtech, etc which would better suit your needs.

*no selling*

[kyle]

you can't use uberdata or chrome with OBD0 ECU's, he has to use turbo edit.

Mate I recommend you source yourself an OBD1 p28 or p30 and a 0 - 1 adapter harness. Then using chrome/Udata burn a stock crx map to it, then start from there.

[rnbguy]

i was thinking of geting a basemap burnt onto a rom from someone in america and sent here i can give u his details (or if anyone does that in australia thats even better) but ur gonna have same problem im having which is finding someone to tune it good.

[rnbguy]

can u use the apexi afc and change the timming on ur distributor? or is that not a good idea?

[040501912]

AFC can not (will advance timing under boost)
ITC can :)

[rnbguy]

no not through afc i meant actually retard base timming at the distributor urself

[040501912]

i wouldnt do that .. and you taking more risk dude ...

[serpo]

is it easy to proram Apexi neo and the ITC to my car? or will I need a pro?

[040501912]

yes is quiet easy to do that. if you have some basic knowledge how to do it. or sometimes copy off internet .. but sometimes it runs like crap .. and putting risk on your self.

pro help would be my suggestion. and doesnt cost that much to tune each..

$300-400 bucks max on dyno too. :)

[rnbguy]

honestly dood id love to move to pearth to get cheap stuff like that, im getting quoted $800 for a tune by honndata guys... so it put me off that all together...

i dont think itll be that hard, if it get hard then get a pro, but adjusting timing and fuel ratio really cant be that hard for very small amounts of boost

[040501912]

LOL ..... i wish i was there .. u guys got better tuner lol !! ..
yeah small boost i think should be okay ..

just use boost dependant fuel reg and doesnt use timming control.. some guys in US did that and motors runs fine ...
( i forgot what i called ) but look through the link to the web that i gave you.. i think it called FPR ?

Its come down to you how much you will spend

[rnbguy]

ive already bought the safc :I so i might give that a go for now with timming light.