Dyno on my Mildly Worked b18a Integra

[Cold Fusion]

hey all, i recently got my car tunes by Ovaboost performance, i got the AEM "stinger"

my car- b18a
Crower stage 2 Cams, Valve Springs + retainers, Cam Gears on a freshly built b18.
K&N intake + full exhaust
Fuel Pressure Regulator

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/C01d/Dyno.jpg

i was not happy with the result of the 91FWKW but yeh not much i can do :P

i upped the rev cut to 7.5k and it idles around 1k (a bit much coz u cant hear the lumpiness of the cams but yeh)

thanks

[locote]

nice power kallan!!!
Thats 2 Hp more than what my B18c put out on same dyno...
Add a skunk2 Pro manifold and get it over 130hp:)
Easy 14s!!!! as is now but..
Time to take it to Plex!!!
Micks dyno reads pretty low compared to others...
Take it xspeed and c what u get there!!!!
I got 130hp on a stock B18B there lol

[EKVTIR-T]

Ye numbers aren't everything.How does it drive though?
Guess that's the main thing really.

[JohnnyVtec]

:thumbsup: Good results man! Interesting choice in the B18a. Stands out from the crowd and shows that you're all about your :honda: onda performance!!!




:thumbsup: Respect...

[Mr_will]

nice work. whats the next step?

[locote]

Ye numbers aren't everything.How does it drive though?
Guess that's the main thing really.

As i said before this dyno reads low compared to others..
No Need to worry Kallan

[Cold Fusion]

drives wicked, LOVE the raw sound up to 7.5k it screams so loud i think people in Sydney can hear it.

its allot better than be4 and it feels alot more effortless to get it to high revs,

next step? i dunno, ive got suspension already done with coilovers, strut bars, sway bars, 17's etc. Audio is done. outside is done with new paintjob and for power its gonna be allot more expencive from this point (since i got the minor things done already) maybe the intake mani, maybe turbo, might leave it for a bit but yeh open to possibilities...

and ill take it down to the plex one day soon heh

thanks for nice comments guys

[jansenrw]

cold fusion,


Just a few things.. If you can set a target for the power achievable and what you would like to aim for then work backwards to obtain it. I'm not promoting here, but Adrian from TODA is a very good sounding board. I know this may not be within your current realm, but if you really want big plans and easy HP, look into a K20 conversion. My current B18c7 lays down approx 130+ FWKW but I would have been better off with an engine conversion and then spending the money on remaining mods.

If you do choose to keep your engine, header, exhaust, computer, injectors, flywheel, then maybe block work would be some of the first steps.


Hope this adds a few more sense to the .02...

Jansen

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

k20 is an expensive swap, and then there is the rego issue.

[jansenrw]

Economics of it all...

Cams and headwork 1.5k
Computer 1k
blockwork incl pistons full rebuild ~3k
Gearbox incl FD 2k
Headers 2k
Intake (mugen) 1k


To me these are very rough but thats around 10k. K20 conversion 8k. Add a couple of grand to that and your power figures eclipse that of the B series. You have a better engine and a better tuning platform. To put it simply. Put 5k into a k20 and 5k into a b series, I gurantee the K would out peform the B.

As for Rego, a compliance plate should be able to fix that, I know it does here in QLD.

I guess what I'm getting at....

If you want 130 FWKW, be prepared to spend close to 10k

Want more power than 130, invest in a K....

[locote]

PPl have spent alot more getting K20s into there hondas..
If all u needed was 8k trust me i would have done it ages ago...

[xtercii]

if k20 conversion costs 8k, I would be doing one every month...

[XB-16-AX]

if k20 conversion costs 8k, I would be doing one every month...

damn ..wish i had money laying around every month .. ehhehe :thumbsup:

[Cold Fusion]

ive spent too much now anyway, the rebuild for the b18 was 2.5k with a swap of my engine, the crower cams was 1500, the install for cams was 1000, intake+exhaust was around 800, ECU was 2k. all up thats 7800! it was my fault not properly researching and jumping onto things which i thought would be good.

its my fault and i dont blame anyone else, but if i knew id get out a loan and spend so much on my car then i would of definitly looked into b18c/b20b/k20 or whatever, but yeh, what if what if what if :P

[DynoDave]

ive spent too much now anyway, the rebuild for the b18 was 2.5k with a swap of my engine, the crower cams was 1500, the install for cams was 1000, intake+exhaust was around 800, ECU was 2k. all up thats 7800! it was my fault not properly researching and jumping onto things which i thought would be good.

its my fault and i dont blame anyone else, but if i knew id get out a loan and spend so much on my car then i would of definitly looked into b18c/b20b/k20 or whatever, but yeh, what if what if what if :P
If you ask me you made the right choice just think about it your not playing follow the internet crowd and you have done something completely different to what they would do,WHO ****ING CARES what they say and think.Keep up the good work I think the power is good and I would be happy to own and drive it around.
Regards Dyno Dave

[Mr_will]

the other issue is that whilst you may have spent 7800 all up, not everyone has that cash up front.

i might spend 10k on my engine over the course of 12 months, and every man and his dog will say errr, get a k20 you n00b.

but i will say no, because i spent the money GRADUALLY, and cbf waiting the 12months to save it all.

also, its good to do things one at a time, eg rebuild, THEN cams, THEN exhaust, or whatever order you want, because it allows you to see the difference each addition makes. you get a better appreciation for how they work and become wiser for it. lets face it, we're all going to own many cars over our lives, there will be plenty of opportunities to try things later.

[aus91integra]

:thumbsup: for DOHC Power

[dsp26]

bro post up a dyno slip...

and yeah don't get cut about it... event hough we drive high revving hondas it's not always about chasing peak power...

drivability wise i bet is a lot better... and i'm guessing you got a fatter midrange?

[barefootbonzai]

I reckon you've done well bro. There's a big difference between spending a bit at a time and a whole lot at once. The 2 shouldn't really be comparable, cause it always looks bad when you add up costs of a slow gradual build. But for most it's the only way to go.

As for k20 conversion, yes it's great but i doubt many people of $12k+ to blow all in one go. ($8K doesn't not cover a k20 swap, that bearing covers a JDM front cut)

[Mitchman]

Awesome work dude props to ya, maybe a descent set of headers next? let those stage 2's realy shine! if you havnt got them already

[EfiOz]

if k20 conversion costs 8k, I would be doing one every month...

I just got quoted $14K for the new 07 Civic Type R engine with trans.

Ouch!!

[Rasputin]

Congrats man!
Looks like you're doing some good work, and i'm glad to see someone sticking with the b18a instead of losing heart (sorry, bad joke) and just getting a transplant. Hope you enjoy it.

e-five.

[Mitchman]

I just got quoted $14K for the new 07 Civic Type R engine with trans.

Ouch!!

Lol why not just get an 05 type S teg engine+trans?? i didnt even know the 07 civic Rs are out in aus yet?!?!

[tinkerbell]

i didnt read every word in every post, but is this car running stock B18 headers?

awesome power if so!

[dudeling7]

nice work man. i want to go down a similar route with my B18B, get some cams.

how did they cams change the driveability with stage 2 crower?

is it mainly midrange gains?

[turtleEK1]

nice work building on that platform!! yeah, having a non-vtec lumpy cam means a nice lumpy idle!

depending on how far you intend to go and spend... could also throw in a light weight flywheel when clutch is due! that'll make it a little more fun... and like i said, depending on funds... could always go for an ITR gearbox? or even a b16 gearbox? shorter gears will help too! because i recall the std b18a ratios aren't crash hot...

just keep you ride clean and maintained... thats a pretty good gain through the whole rev range!!

[dudeling7]

yeh dude

lots of guys in the states put in b16a gearboxes on a ls engine and puts them into the 14's with jsut boltons. thats if you can withstand reving at 4000rpm on the free way.

but other things like turtle said, flywheel would be great.

did you ever think about going crower 404's when you were deciding on cams?

[Cold Fusion]

ok lots of questions hehe

for one i have after market headers which were custom made 4-1 by cypher, i brought them off a guy on OH

i would of looked into getting 404's but i brought the 403's of a guy in OH (the same guy ;)) :P

and yeh i think i need LSD and when the clutch does go ill be looking at getting flywheel + HD'er Clutch and when the gearbox goes ill look into maybe b16a or b18c to get LSD, i guess which ever is avalible at the time heh.

cheers for comments guys :)

oh and the driability, with the full ECU it isn't too bad, but when it was running standard ECU it wasnt very crash hot (could idle etc) but yeh i really like them, and its mainly mid/top end, the power really kicks in at around 4+.

my next little thing ATM will be lookin at getting better exhaust, i have crappy 2.25 with crappy muffler and its really loud, be lookin at getting 2.5 with resonator, muffler and then a muffler tip (oh and cat :P)

[kyle]

hey all, i recently got my car tunes by Ovaboost performance, i got the AEM "stinger"

my car- b18a
Crower stage 2 Cams, Valve Springs + retainers, Cam Gears on a freshly built b18.
K&N intake + full exhaust
Fuel Pressure Regulator

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/C01d/Dyno.jpg

i was not happy with the result of the 91FWKW but yeh not much i can do :P

i upped the rev cut to 7.5k and it idles around 1k (a bit much coz u cant hear the lumpiness of the cams but yeh)

thanks

Man thats cool hey. Don't be worried about your dyno readings, the dyno is there to tune the beast, then you take it to the 1/4 mile and track to see how fast it is. FYI iv'e seen B16a's pull around 90Kw on some low reading dyno's so lets say your LS is putting out about 160Hp at the fly now? Id be pretty chuffed. Your power curve looks nice and linear. Good work on taking a different path and choosing something unique.- Kyle