car still not starting:(:(

[flipstar]

hey guys my starter motor is on its way out like it would kick over and had to give it a few taps and my car finally started just wanting to know what starter motor to get for a b20/b16 and how much do you all think it would cost?? thanks guys

[dsp26]

^^firstly.. location??

if the tap trick worked then it's only the brushes on the opposite end of the gear/solenoid thats gone.

easy to replace yourself if an auto elec is willing to sell/make you the brushes.. i think their like graphite or something and only cost like $10 for the 4 brushes.

otherwise a core swap is usually around the $130 mark...

this is what a starter generally looks like inside:
red = brushes
green = solenoid
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/dsp26/Maintenance/StarterMotor_Fix.jpg

[flipstar]

im located in syd livo area is a honda starter motor generic?? at all btw thanx
dsp26

[dsp26]

im located in syd livo area is a honda starter motor generic?? at all btw thanx
dsp26

i wouldn't say generic but common enough.

Give Turbo Auto Spares in Cabramatta a call or just visit em... they do core swaps and store a lot of Honda bits...

after you enquire and they do have one... just take yours out and do the swap... if you buy one off them it actually costs quite a fair bit more.. and you'll end up with a dead spare you can't use.

[ECU-MAN]

another comon problem is the solenoid. it engages but doesnt pass the power to the stater motor brushes. the contacts in the solenoid ware out and the plunger doesnt make a good contact.


you can disasemble the solenoid and reapir it your self as well. some starters solenoids that you cannot open up, so you have to replace it instead.

[Drew]

If you have a Mitsuba starter motor I don't think you can get parts for them apart from Honda in which case the solenoid will cost you $400 odd

[flipstar]

hey guys i had the starter motor changed and the car still wont crank over still silence wen i turn the key and i had check that there is power going to the starter but still nothing any suggestions why its still not cranking thanks guys

[destrukshn]

so when you crank it, there is power going to the thinnest wire on the starter motor?

[flipstar]

^^ yeah there is i had my mech check it out and still nothing there is power going to the starter and he even tryD cranking power from the battrey straight and still nothing

[destrukshn]

you got a reco one? or a 2nd hand one?
sounds like that starter motor is ****ed.
lol.

[flipstar]

nope brand new straight from the box they even pulled it out and gave it a test in front of me n it was all good

[Drew]

If a mechanic fitted it then get him to make it work...

Checked the fuses?

[destrukshn]

nope brand new straight from the box they even pulled it out and gave it a test in front of me n it was all good
now, you said he put a battery straight to it, and it didn't work, if it doesn't work straight from the battery, there is somethign wrong.

if it was the fuse, there wouldn't be a signal to the starter motor wire?

[Drew]

Well you see if the power isn't wired to the starter motor itself and you just chuck 12v to the solenoid (while grounded) it will just click and not do anything else...

If it's grounded and you give it 12v from the battery and you get absolutely nothing then the solenoid is buggered... Either faulty solenoid or personal installing it is retarded, good luck finding out which is which

[flipstar]

hey guys i took my car to an auto electrician today and he said the starter motor was fine and checked the battery he said it was gone and i told him id b back tomorrow for one then i went sum where and tried to throw in a fresh battery and still nothing wtf is going on with my car lol much help would b appreciated

[Paul1985]

does it crank? or arent u even getting cranking?

With ign set to on do u have dash lights and do all your accessories work?
Check your ignition switch and ignition switch fuse..
Worth checking :P

Check your battery terminals and leads too..

[destrukshn]

yeah but, the ignition switch is working, becayse the signal is getting to the starter as he has stated.
but it's not cranking.

[flipstar]

yeah the car jus dnt crank i got all power to lights and dash etc and all fuses are cool im dying here lol no vtec for 3 dayz now lol

[destrukshn]

dude, somethign is not right.
it;s either somethign isn't connect.
or the starter motor is ****ed.
if the starter motor ain't spinning, when it's supposed to, and everything is connect correctly, the motor has to be ****ed.
lol.

check the earths?

[flipstar]

yeah i checked everything i checked the earths as well and i still got nothing cranking

[Drew]

Can you hear a 'click' when you turn the key to start?

[fatboyz39]

This is what you do.

Take the starter motor out of the gearbox and try to crank it. If it the starter motor spins then yes, the starter motor is working.

Then put it bak in the gearbox and try to crank it. If it doenst crank then something is definitely wrong. Something must be stucked.

Do you have a multimeter? Check for power on the signal wire when cranking
Get a buddy to help you

Give that a go.

[flipstar]

yea i heard a click and sounds like sumting is sparking but not gettN anywhere yeah the motor does spin and there is power im taking it to a sparkie 2morrow ill let you all know whats happenin

thanx guys hopefully its sumthing lil

[Drew]

So the motor is trying to start then?

In that case it's not the starter motor but something else
Get them to check for a spark from the distributor

[Benson]

So the engine cranks??

If it does then i reckon its the sparks.

Take out the spark leads and test if there is sparks

[Drew]

Where do you live?

[flipstar]

livo area a mate of mine is coming out 2 look at it as well lol

[Drew]

Livo being what state?

[SHIFTY]

he would mean sydney i would imagine :)

[flipstar]

yeh sydney sorri dnt think u could fly ova and help me drew lol but hopefully it will b simple jus gotta clutch start it 2morrow ay

[flipstar]

PROBLEM SOLVED lol d bloody nrma man dat checked my car 1st time round made a earth bolt loose problem 1 lol problem 2 was d earth from the body 2 d block was dirty as well so scrubbD dat up n BOOM VTEC IS BACK

[destrukshn]

told you to check your earths
-_-
lol.