Help install connect splits to H/U

[Dell99]

need some help guys, i purchased some splits from JayCar and was hoping to enjoy my new beats in the car The problem is that i couldn't connect the wires to the H/U.

I did all the wires to the Crossover and such. The back of the head unit is "RCA plugs" (i think its what its called. Like the ends of a DVD/VCR Cables).

Anyway i stripped one end of the cable and attached the wires to it n there is no sound coming from it. Thus i tried connecting the wires to the stock connector of the original speakers.

There is sound that comes out but the quality is MUCH worse than stock speakers.

Thus i disconnected it and rather hav no sound at all in the front.

Can someone pls help me

[D4rk4n63l]

You want to connect these wires to the high output of the HU, this is normally the white+white/black and grey+grey/black at the back of the HU, but double check with the HU manual for front speakers output.

The RCA only provide low output which needs amplification to drive the speakers which if highly recommended for the splits itself.

[Dell99]

man i checked the manual n it isnt much help :(
H/U = Kenwood KDC-6534

can i attach with plain wires or do i need connectors

[D4rk4n63l]

in that case u need to connect the left speaker wires to the white/white-black wires on the back of the HU and the right wires to grey/grey-black... the wires with black stripes meant to be the negative side.

best thing to do is to solder and use heatshrink to cover up the connection, but plug connector is the next best thing if you can't solder.. finally, if ur not using the RCA plugs, tape them up with some electrical tape to provide insulation

[sml-089]

if u have an aftermarket headunit, on the back the wires should all be labelled somehow, u just need to connect the positive on the headunit to the positive on the speakers and the negative to the negative. easy, can just strip the wires, twist em and electrical tape em if u want or are lazy

[D4rk4n63l]

not all are labeled... if you do a lot of install you'll find 90% of them are not labeled, however most if not all use a common wiring color code which I mentioned above

[Dell99]

i will giv it a try, I will try to take a pic but i only have a camera phone. N we all kno that they are low quality too :(

[Dell99]

Hello guys,
Ok finally got to scan it would really like u guru's to help me figure out this prob.

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[Dell99]

is using the amp the only way i can go?

[D4rk4n63l]

if you refer to page 39 of your manual, there is a table indicating speaker outputs using connector B

Just have a look at you wiring harness, is there any white, grey, green and purple wires? they should end in the bottom part of the connector. You need to splice them up (white and grey for the front) and connect those to the speaker wires as I said..

[Dell99]

holy crap how did u know page 39 just from that pic. Well here is the troublesome part.
I ain't using the connector at all, i just purchased a Wiring Harness for the Kenwood to change to ISO, n the honda to ISO as well. (if that makes sense)

thus it goes

Kenwood => Kenwood to ISO Harness => ISO to Honda Harness => Honda

[bungsai]

thats ok, then you are just going to have to identify the approriate wires and cut them out of the ISO harness and then add connectors.

[Dell99]

so i just compare to the manual and hopefully it works. I will keep u guys updated

[Dell99]

ok...

I was just about to cut the wires, then thought "Why would i need to do it". I mean if i cut the wires wouldn't if of been the same as i have cut the wires of the connectors next to the door. Cause that was how i originally hooked up the speakers and that was sh!t.

Since both pair of wires are just running off virutally the same wires. Can someone please explain?

[D4rk4n63l]

I knew about page 39 because I downloaded the manual to understand the wiring better to help u :thumbsup:

if you are using kenwood-iso-iso-honda connector, you must use the stock wiring to wire the splits, ie, cutting the stock speaker connectors on the stock speakers and connecting them to the split's x-over inputs.

There are also another reason why the speakers sound bad even if you think u wired them correctly when they are running out of phase respective to each other. You need to make sure that both speakers are wired correctly, not just the correct pairs but also check the polarity (positive/negative) of all the connections. The reason is that if you wired one of them wrong, the one speaker will cancel out the other's sound outputs giving a very thin sound.

The best thing to resolve this problem is to do all the wiring urself using a proper marked speaker cable that has some marking of the polarity on it and connect the splits directly to the headunit, however this will require u to route the wiring through the door and under the dash, which is not that hard really, just need some patience.. :D

hope i explained everything :cool:

[Dell99]

well i wired all the wires already running under the dash. Sorry for my lack of knowledge but....

but i did already cut the wireso n the stock connector near the front door. what i did was that i hooked up the left side speakers nd left the right as stock to compare the sound quality.

Stock was much louder n a bit clearer which confused the hell out of me

[D4rk4n63l]

when u say that u comnparing the sound from stock wiring to ur own wiring, do you connect ur own wiring to the RCA out or by connecting them to the stock wiring?

anything connected to RCA and not amplified will sound shite.. because RCA is a low signal output and has no significant power since its function if to supply signal only, not power.. hence u need amp for that, but if u use stock wiring, and cutting the stock connector and then connect those to the splits, then ur set.. however I still recommend using ur own wiring which require u to cut the harness and reconnect the speaker wires... just like u said, it will be the same pair of wire in the end but slightly better than stock wires...

[Dell99]

dam i guess its no hope then. I thought that the Response Jaycar Splits was value for money.

here is what i did

Trial 1: Created custom rca for the two wires from the cross over and connected it to the H/U

result = bad

Trial 2: Using the original wires from the stock speakers. I cut the connector off. Connected the wires from the crossover TOO the cut wires.

result = Even worst sound

thats y Darkangel i was so confused. Cause both of the methods u described if have tried. So i am really stumped

[D4rk4n63l]

I dont understand why using the second method will produce a bad sound unless you have fried the voice coil while trying the first method which is not a good idea in the first place... jaycar's splits are good value for money and I've installed a couple of these with no less than good result

my suggestion is to bring it to someone who have some experience on car audio and ask for help, at least they will know if the splits is still ok or not :)

[Dell99]

hmmm
well the fact is that wen i tried the frist method i only applied it to the left speaker. I guess i can do it with the right and see if it sounds the same (thus not fried) or diff (then big sh!t, lost split)


dam hope its not fried