[DC2] Castor kit recommendations

[T-onedc2]

Hey as the title says,
I have been considering getting a Skunk2 front castor kit for some time but am unsure of the quality, although I've never heard anything bad about these. Are there any other reputable brands worth considering as I'm not willing to skimp on suspension parts.
Thanks

[bennjamin]

whiteline kit.

[kuku]

hee im looking for the castor kit as well
how much caster can the skunk2 caster kit give?

[EK4R]

sorry to hi-jack. but could someone just quickly explain what exactly they do? i did a read up and search ages ago and was readong in wynodes whiteline thread about it.

they only work with adjustable camber? they help turn in or something? gives camber when you turn? duno. could be confused with something else i read.

[DLO01]

Hey as the title says,
I have been considering getting a Skunk2 front castor kit for some time but am unsure of the quality, although I've never heard anything bad about these. Are there any other reputable brands worth considering as I'm not willing to skimp on suspension parts.
Thanks

Camber, Castor, Toe:

Castor is angle of wheel pivoting around an axis when you turn.
Camber is angle of wheel adusted on our DC's by the upper control arm.

I have Skunk2's on my DC2R front and rear.

http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

As far as I am aware, Skunk2 only have a 'Camber' kit not a castor kit. Quality is excellent.

[revNhevN]

Castor can also be adjusted by the lower control arm. Noltec make a kit for EG/DC hondas. Its a noltec bush with an eccentric center pin.
Castor can also be added by swapping the left and right upper control arms. I have both of these done. about 3.5 degrees castor on my EG

[DLO01]

Castor can also be added by swapping the left and right upper control arms. I have both of these done. about 3.5 degrees castor on my EG
Yep, correct! Because your effectively tilting back the axis more :thumbsup:

[T-onedc2]

........Castor can also be added by swapping the left and right upper control arms. I have both of these done. about 3.5 degrees castor on my EG

Is this an advisable method? i.e. are there any undesirable effects by doing it this way?

[DLO01]

^^^ It is fine. You just swap them over, they are fixed down exactly the same way. A few people have done this. No problems.

[T-onedc2]

I had a look under there today, in the pic below I have circled the area in question. The pin and nut were easily removable but it is difficult to separate, is there a trick to doing this without damaging the bush?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b55/Tykie/Upperarmsmall.jpg

[DLO01]

Sometimes its difficult to remove because its a tappered fitting.

Keep the nut on the end of the thread because you don't want to damage the thread.

Hit it or tap it with a brass hammer. Mine popped out like this.

[T-onedc2]

It's all back together now, but will try that again soon, thanks for that!

[T-onedc2]

Ok made the change over today from left to right. Once I pulled it apart in correct order was easy as pie, if not easier.
It only gives a slight increase in castor, a definite minor improvement, does anyone know how many degrees of castor this mod gives?

[Bludger]

extra positive or neg?

[DLO01]

By swapping Upper Control Arms, left to right & right to left, you increase you -ve Castor.

[Bludger]

By swapping Upper Control Arms, left to right & right to left, you increase you -ve Castor.
therefore both front wgeels point more inwards?

[T-onedc2]

no, inwards is -ve camber, this is castor below tilting the axis backward or forward, the swapping of upper control arms tilt the axis backward which I understand to be +ve castor.
And now after some more driving I can feel a reasonable improvement in turning.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b55/Tykie/caster.jpg

[bennjamin]

no, inwards is -ve camber, this is castor below tilting the axis backward or forward, the swapping of upper control arms tilt the axis backward which I understand to be +ve castor.
And now after some more driving I can feel a reasonable improvement in turning.


On any car with increased castor (from stock) you will notice the static position of the wheels is slightly forward of the usual axis. (towards the front of the car)

[T-onedc2]

On any car with increased castor (from stock) you will notice the static position of the wheels is slightly forward of the usual axis. (towards the front of the car)
Hey Benn would that not depend on the type of castor adjustment used, as in, for me I've made the adjustment from the top which shouldn't affect static castor because the pivot point is basically at the hub,
but if I used a castor kit using eccentric bushes at the lower control arm then it would result in the slightly forward static position which you mention?

[kuku]

hey anyone know if swapping the left to right upper control gain more castor for ek?
and how much more does castor kit from noltec give?

[string]

By swapping Upper Control Arms, left to right & right to left, you increase you -ve Castor.
And make your bump steer much more non-zero and non-linear, which will have interesting effects on hard braking. There are results on a honda-tech thread if you are interested.

[T-onedc2]

Hard braking was the first thing I tested and all is fine. Only alignment issues would cause that.

[string]

Bump steer is an alignment issue - more information in the other thread you responded to me in. The instability is in the transition from acceleration to braking, not during the braking.

[DLO01]

And make your bump steer much more non-zero and non-linear, which will have interesting effects on hard braking. There are results on a honda-tech thread if you are interested.

Yeh, I don't know String. All I know is some guys have done this mod on thier track car as they wanted more Castor and have not complained about anything. :confused:

[ekhybrid]

does swapping uca 2 increase castor apply to eks as well?

[Bludger]

bump.

has anybody added washers to the dc2 front LCA's to increase castor?

T-onedc2 - you still running this setup?

could you please give more feedback.......

[Bludger]

15856

this is whiteline kit.

can anyone comment?