2 Type-R

[VTi-R]

i heard civics pull 11-13s with these motors, wat those type-r motors pump out? because i know turbos are no good unless you want to spend big. no matter wat ive done from air filters - cams, same shit, different sound... were they 1.8 160kw or 2.0 180kw?
where do i go, where they wont rip me off lol
any thoughts?








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[Jnr Teggy]

hey mate...


B18C5&7 (which i think you are reffering to) produce 141kw at the flywheel straight out of the honda factory..

this can be coaxed to aroung 170kw without internal mods..


13's are attailable with a stripped civic and a type R motor and gearbox..

you will need a lot more power,suspension and chassis work to dip into the 12's..thats with a damn good driver too

11's will require an all out drag car...with massive power, weight loss and chassis/suspension work...


Good Performance and Hanny's performance can steer you in the right direction if you are intersted..

i was quoted 10k for a drive in - drive out Type R conversion..


hope that helps!

[VTi-R]

$10,000 thanks bro

wat if i lose some weight :idea:

[Jnr Teggy]

power to weight is everything mate!

ALLMTR civic has run a 12.8 @ 107mph...which is damn quick considering that it has a n/a B20Vtec...and uses street slicks..

all of his windows are replaced with lexan (plastic), the only thing in the cabin is a single seat, even the dash is gone all but for a tacho and fuel gauge.

weight is the key my friend

[Calvo]

yeh man, gettin a street/daily driver civic/crx to do 11s, is gonna be pretty hard. not impossible, but i think impracticle, unless its like a drag car or a spare project car.
damn, steerin would be whack for daily drivin for a fwd car like that.

[Jnr Teggy]

i'm just curious...


has anyone ever been in or driven an 11 second car..they are really really really quick...quicker than you'd expect.


turbo examples are almost death on the road!..i'd think an n/a example would be an absolute pig!

(and if anyone doubts me my brother owns a pac performance RX3)

[Calvo]

yeh i been in an 11sec RX3 and an RX4, both which were owned by my mates cousin. i think both these have been sold now.
they r pretty damn crazy.
i never been in a 11sec FWD car tho.

[Jnr Teggy]

yeh i been in an 11sec RX3 and an RX4, both which were owned by my mates cousin. i think both these have been sold now.
they r pretty damn crazy.
i never been in a 11sec FWD car tho.


its difficult to steer when your steering wheels are spinning..

also...the car has a habit of switching lanes by itself..

[mr-n14]

solution is simple..dump a sr20 into it... :lol: :lol:

nah really, ive heard too of civics pulling 12s from type r conversions...
how hard is it to fit a 1.8 type are into a civic say 2000 mod?

[Jnr Teggy]

Mr n 14....anything can be done for a price...


wether the 1.8 into a civic is an affordable conversion is another question..

[wynode]

solution is simple..dump a sr20 into it... :lol: :lol:

nah really, ive heard too of civics pulling 12s from type r conversions...
how hard is it to fit a 1.8 type are into a civic say 2000 mod?

Not sure about the 2000 model, but you can drop a DC2 type R into a EG civic no problem.

In fact it is one of the best swaps out there for both track and drag.

If you want just a quick drag car, then go the H22 swap into the civic. it won't be a track car, but it will pull good 1/4s.

[INFLYT]

You'll need the box to go with a DC2R engine, as it's suited very well to that particular engine.

[VTi-R]

wynode: we not talking another $10,000 are we dude?
sounds beautiful

[Jnr Teggy]

wynode: we not talking another $10,000 are we dude?
sounds beautiful

GPC quoted me $10K for a turn-key conversion...inclusive of engine..g'box..computer etc.,.

[VTi-RT]

To get a N/A civic to run 11sec qtr mile you'll be looking at an extreme amount of cash... and you will have to rip everything out of your car to reduce as much weight as possible.

It's a lot harder then getting a 11sec turbo honda and the cost difference is huge.

All B series engine will swap straight into 96-00 civic's with only the rear engine mount needing to be changed.

If your planning to go N/A with the B18C conversion, get the ppl doing the work to stick your B16A head on the B18C block, it'll increase the compression abit and give you more power due to the better airflow of the B16A head. Try to find as many CTR head components as you can, CTR cams, CTR intake manifold, CTR headers and install them on the B18C.

[wynode]

Welcome VTi-RT

I'd like to see some of your times in the drag racing section.

[VTi-RT]

Hey Wynode,

I never seem to have time or enough money to finish my project, but i'm currently turbo'ing my GF's Civic.

I'll start posting times with they're worth posting. :wink:

[BlitZ]

if i spent 10 grand on my engine i would want it to eat type r's for dinner..
A type R conversion for 10grand is a heafty price tag.. but your paying for quality... the engine is like 5k+ as it is and would be dead reliable..
in my opinion with 10k... rebuild a b18c(Vtir) or b16a...get type R pistons (PR??) raise compression... port and polish..cams, valves springs, retainers, cam gears.. and maybe balanced crank..- should be like 7-8k.. i think... dont quote me..
my cars shit slow all i need is money.. :lol:

[VTi-RT]

The B18C is the better base to work with, as it's got more cc's. for $10k you would basically only get a type-r conversion as they-re bloody expensive.

You probably have enough money for a few extra components eg. I/H/E

[A.C.S DRAG]

for 10k turbo your existing engine then watch as your car blows away NA cars, so much that NA cars arent even worth dragging anymore.

[Weq]

I agree with the above.
Sure NA is all good, but for those bucks, u can push some nice boost.

[VTi-RT]

lol leave the poor N/A guys alone....
They don't know what their missing...
let them have some fun :P

[one more chance]

kinda difficult to understand your thread bro....
if you're refering to the type r civics, they have a B16B and have a 185hp engine....this engine has vey little similarilties over the B16A. here are all the differences between the b16B and b16a...
essentially the b16b is a "destroked" B18C engine..minus all the goodies on the head of course. so dont think you can swap a B16B head onto a B16A bloack...nope, much more to it then that....


Cylinder Head - Complete port & polish
Exhaust Valve Spring - High-lift, dual-layered spring
Sparkplug - High-heat-type #7 platinum plug
Pistons - High-compression, low-friction, custom pistons
Connecting Rod - High-output, high-durability, lightened, custom conrod
Engine Stiffener - Aluminum die-cast, high-durability, one-piece type
Crankshaft - Full-balancer, 8-weight, high-output, custom crankshaft
Inlet Valves - Lightened inlet valves
Inlet Valve Springs - High-lift, flat-surfaced, dual-layered spring
Camshaft - Wide-angled, high-lift, high-durability camshaft
Intake Manifold - High-RPM type.


get a 11sec NA honda means u need to have at least $10,000 TO COVER THE COSTS! and that doesnt even involve any possible engine conversions.....

[vti-2]

An 11sec N/A Honda also means massive weight reduction. Guys in the States are stripping interiors, replacing glass with light-weight perspex, removing dashes, sometimes re-constructing from light-weight material etc.

This is why N/A gets very expensive if you want a fast N/A car...