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n_san5
18-06-2007, 10:37 PM
HI friends,

I've bought my new honda euro 07 on may 26th 2007.
My odometer reading indicates 390 km and the tank if almost empty.
I was pretty sure the tank was full when i drove the car out from the showroom (65lts).

Please advise.

Any feedback will be much appreciated.

thanking you in adv

aday
18-06-2007, 10:57 PM
My odometer reading indicates 390 km and the tank if almost empty.
I was pretty sure the tank was full when i drove the car out from the showroom (65lts).

I find that my fuel gauge shows almost full for the first 100-150km into a tank of fuel. It wouldn't surprise me if your dealer knew this and only put ~50L into the tank.

Further to that, if your low-fuel light hasn't come on yet, you have in excess of 8 litres (or thereabouts) left in the tank - important when doing a calculation of fuel consumption. What does the trip computer say?

Also - the car is brand new and the engine is tight. Expect some reasonably heavy fuel consumption figures before the engine is properly run in.

BiLL|z0r
19-06-2007, 07:07 AM
Agreed ^^

Also some dealers put 91 ron unleaded in before delivery (standard yard petrol) which would increase consumption.

tony1234
19-06-2007, 07:39 AM
[QUOTE=aday;1220619Also - the car is brand new and the engine is tight. Expect some reasonably heavy fuel consumption figures before the engine is properly run in.[/QUOTE]
I agree.It'll improve after a few tank fills.

tron07
19-06-2007, 08:30 AM
Currently the fuel warning lights are on, on the trip meter, only left 9km before empty. Distance drove is just pass 500km for a full tank of RON98 petrol. Town driving most of the time, 40-60km zones.

On highways, I should manage 700-800km on a full tank.

Entity
19-06-2007, 02:59 PM
i can barely crack 500km mix highway/urban driving if i dont use air con and baby it around

normally consumption is between 10.5 - 11.5 L / 100km...

aaronng
19-06-2007, 03:04 PM
HI friends,

I've bought my new honda euro 07 on may 26th 2007.
My odometer reading indicates 390 km and the tank if almost empty.
I was pretty sure the tank was full when i drove the car out from the showroom (65lts).

Please advise.

Any feedback will be much appreciated.

thanking you in adv

They don't fill your tank all the way to the top. They fill only to the full mark. Between the full mark and the top, there is about 100-150km worth of fuel.

^__^ SM ^__^
19-06-2007, 09:48 PM
My dealer took me to the petrol station when I picked up the car and filled it till the pump clicked with RON98.

Don't worry about the fuel consumption, I was worried too when the car was new. Now with 10,000km on it, I get about 9-10L/100km mix highway and city, 12L/100km with only stop start traffic jam. I went to country rotation for uni last month and got it down to 7L/100km.. tried really hard to crack it to 6.9L/100km but couldn't. The car has best consumption on highway at 110km/h. =)

edw-R
19-06-2007, 10:06 PM
I got a question. How many km different between air-cond on all the time and air-cond off all the time?

n_san5
19-06-2007, 11:22 PM
Thanks guys...will keep a track

mmmsxc
19-06-2007, 11:34 PM
i use optimax and the range i get as soon as i feel up is just 550km.

blk05gli
19-06-2007, 11:52 PM
this has been discussed plenty of times :-)

you WILL get better fuel consumption as your engine wears in. I have 55K and get 650km/tank using caltex vortex premium city/freeway mix driving

aaronng
20-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Also, L/100km numbers are more useful than kms per tank.

EuroBro
21-06-2007, 06:27 PM
been cruzin on caltex 98 all the time. During summer avg 8.5. Now in winter 10.5. How can this be?

terryansimon
21-06-2007, 06:31 PM
been cruzin on caltex 98 all the time. During summer avg 8.5. Now in winter 10.5. How can this be?

could be due to you using the heater more?

I dunno... random stab in the dark there.

EuroBro
21-06-2007, 06:36 PM
could be due to you using the heater more?

I dunno... random stab in the dark there.

Maybe because of cold air / moisture (in very wet sydney) that it's not burning all the fuel quick enough?? :confused:

ok2
21-06-2007, 10:04 PM
As I understand it, this is because modern cars with computer controlled fuel injection (using sensors for O2, temperature etc.) maintain a more correct air/fuel mixture (Stoichiometric) than older cars. As cold air is denser more fuel is added. This gives you more power so you would think that if we accelerated at the same rate we would use the same amount of fuel but it does not seem to work that way.

If someone out there understands this better than me (I am no expert on this topic) and I am mistaken I would be happy to be corrected.

There may be other factors such as higher rolling resistance, cars taking longer to warm up (longer use of rich mixture) etc. but I think air/fuel mixture is the main reason.

Euro76
21-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Don't worry mate. At first few thousand k's on odo it will consume more fuel and it's normal however when your engine is 5k km or above the consumption will get better and the car performs better. I was starting to feel the greatness of this engine the more I drive.

aaronng
21-06-2007, 10:55 PM
As I understand it, this is because modern cars with computer controlled fuel injection (using sensors for O2, temperature etc.) maintain a more correct air/fuel mixture (Stoichiometric) than older cars. As cold air is denser more fuel is added. This gives you more power so you would think that if we accelerated at the same rate we would use the same amount of fuel but it does not seem to work that way.

If someone out there understands this better than me (I am no expert on this topic) and I am mistaken I would be happy to be corrected.

There may be other factors such as higher rolling resistance, cars taking longer to warm up (longer use of rich mixture) etc. but I think air/fuel mixture is the main reason.

That's right! Because cold air is denser and the engine takes longer to warm up. There are 2 reasons why the engine takes longer to warm up. First, because the engine is colder to start with. Second, the heater takes its heat from the coolant. So if you if you set your climate control to anything but LO on a 10ºC morning, you can bet that the heat from the coolant is going to be used for your heater. Since the coolant takes a longer time to warm up as well, the engine runs in cold start mode for longer.

hotout
23-06-2007, 02:36 AM
[The car has best consumption on highway at 110km/h. =)[/QUOTE]

is this indicated 110 or GPS sorta 110? coz, my GPS shows 115 but dash shows 120.

^__^ SM ^__^
23-06-2007, 08:45 AM
[The car has best consumption on highway at 110km/h. =)

is this indicated 110 or GPS sorta 110? coz, my GPS shows 115 but dash shows 120.[/QUOTE]

This is 110 on dash so probably 105 real speed ie. GPS

tony1234
23-06-2007, 09:27 AM
Round the city i get approx.8.8-9.2L/100kms.BUT on the highway i've had it drop as low as 6.7L/100(in 6th.doing 110kph down to Canberra)

falco
25-06-2007, 09:59 PM
I have averaged 8.4L / 100k over the last 4 years

timmeh
27-06-2007, 03:51 PM
If I drive to Newcastle or Orange (regular destinations) I get 7.4L/100km. Driving around in Sydney I get 9.6. Not that I care anyway, I have a corporate fuel card. http://www.themixingbowl.org/image/smilies/grin.gif

r-r-redEuro
27-06-2007, 05:35 PM
lol how come those numbers seem so outragous to me ? im doing 13 - 14L/100km its crazy, its city driving in sydney no where out far west, =/ but its probably because cars still new ? =/ around 2500 kms on the odo

turbo56k
27-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Well, I'm there with you red. My euro is over a year old, done 11000km , currently running on 13-14L. suburb driving. makes little different when I'm spirit driving or baby it. Full tank is about 350-400km

r-r-redEuro
27-06-2007, 06:46 PM
i argree its totally bogus lol, i get about that much as well

curik
28-06-2007, 12:44 AM
Same here, I always average 11.5-12.5l/100km (manual). But most of my trips are short and maybe only 20% of the km is done on the freeway (100k/h). The rest is done mostly at 60k/h areas and start stop driving. Also i have Intake,header,and exhaust mods.

But at one time I filled up 10l and I did ~100km (remembering the position of the gauge, fill in, drive, and noting down the increase of km till the needle went back to the orig position). And this was equivalent to roughly 50% freeway and 50% initial D style driving :P at Mt. Dandenongs (constantly above 4000rpm and WOT). So yeah depends on where you normally drive you can get the claimed fuel consumption with ease.

aaronng
28-06-2007, 01:01 AM
I do 100% suburb driving, and all short trips but I still get 10.5L/100km. You guys have a heavy foot especially when taking off at the lights. To get 10.5L/100km in full suburb driving, you have to be prepared to lose to the Camrys and Barinas at the lights.

curik
28-06-2007, 01:08 AM
Hmm could the euro FC be overrated? Or is the FC for any car overrated? Say the man euro is rated at 9.1l/100km and people get about 10-20% more consumption in real life. How about say a 6.0L HSV rated at 15l/100km? that means we will be getting close to 20l/100km in real life!

EuroAccord13
28-06-2007, 04:18 AM
Fuel consumption figures are tested according to ADR (Which was based off the European testing).. The figures indicated for each vehicle were conducted in LABORATORIES and not on the ROAD. The manufacturers perform the tests and send the report to the transport department!

The average consumption figures are based on a 50/50 driving mix, in some European countries, they have up to three different figures for different driving conditions for each vehicle....

They cannot be replicated for real life on road driving conditions...

aaronng
28-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Hmm could the euro FC be overrated? Or is the FC for any car overrated? Say the man euro is rated at 9.1l/100km and people get about 10-20% more consumption in real life. How about say a 6.0L HSV rated at 15l/100km? that means we will be getting close to 20l/100km in real life!

The manual Euro's fuel consumption is very close to the rated numbers. The EPA numbers are tested without traffic lights and is a combination of highway and suburb driving. So my 10.5L/100km number is very close to it. Combine that with my highway consumption of 7L/100km (tested on my way to Melb from Sydney), my consumption is then 8.75L/100km if I did 50/50 of highway and suburb driving.

Of course, autos tend to have higher real life fuel consumption compared to the rated number because the EPA testing does not do heavy foot acceleration from stops, which is what almost ALL auto drivers do. :)

tron07
28-06-2007, 08:50 AM
1 year old car with 11,000km.... thats pretty on the low side.... done the 3 service already?

I do mostly town driving, and avg at around 10.5/100km. Usually around 10-11/km... if I drive real slow and let it cruise to a stop all the time, then its around 10.

Just did my 10,000km service, and change to Castrol Edge, first thing I notice is that the fuel consumption seems to drop slightly, I can go below the 10l/km mark if I drive real slow and let it cruise to a stop.

turbo56k
28-06-2007, 11:04 AM
[QUOTE=tron07;1234153]1 year old car with 11,000km.... thats pretty on the low side.... done the 3 service already?

QUOTE]

I'm going the 3rd service on this saturday. After the first 1000km service, I've always used motul oil.

I don't really think that I have a heavy right foot. The most of the time the needle doesn't even get pass 3000rpm, and I'm still getting 13l, that's alot dont you think... it's drinks pretty much the same with my other v6 camry. Only the camry takes unlead petrol

aaronng
28-06-2007, 02:23 PM
I'm going the 3rd service on this saturday. After the first 1000km service, I've always used motul oil.

I don't really think that I have a heavy right foot. The most of the time the needle doesn't even get pass 3000rpm, and I'm still getting 13l, that's alot dont you think... it's drinks pretty much the same with my other v6 camry. Only the camry takes unlead petrol
is yours an auto? How much throttle do you use when taking off from the lights? How long is your trip each time you start your car?

turbo56k
28-06-2007, 04:25 PM
is yours an auto? How much throttle do you use when taking off from the lights? How long is your trip each time you start your car?


yup, auto. Like I said, when I'm babying the car, the gear change about 2500rpm. 10-15 mins trip usuallly.

aaronng
28-06-2007, 04:29 PM
yup, auto. Like I said, when I'm babying the car, the gear change about 2500rpm. 10-15 mins trip usuallly.

Do you shift at 2500rpm when in D or in tiptronic? If it is tiptronic, you shouuld shift at 3000rpm instead. Using lower RPM but giving more throttle just lugs the engine and consumes more fuel.

Autos typically consume 12L/100km. And a 10-15 minute trip is very short. That's probably the reason for your high fuel consumption

BiLL|z0r
28-06-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm getting 10.9l/100km these days. Mostly city driving, auto, 95ron, lead foot from time to time, 2yr old/40,000km's. The biggest saving on fuel I've found is the air con. Don't use that and there's 30km's extra per tank right there.

r-r-redEuro
28-06-2007, 06:23 PM
lol weather these days in sydney how can you NOT use the air con to unfog your windows lol, im doing high 13L, low 14L's drives are yeah usually about 20 mins or so. car still new so that might be a reason also running at 98ron Vpower =/ if it makes any difference.

hotout
28-06-2007, 07:05 PM
is yours an auto? How much throttle do you use when taking off from the lights? How long is your trip each time you start your car?

I find that the more you stab at the throttle, the higher the fuel consumption. If you squeeze into your throttle at the lights, I definitely see some improvement in fuel economy.

marosch
29-06-2007, 12:55 AM
Hi guys,

I'm new here and get my new Euro Lux on Monday. I'm actually very surprised by the fuel consumption. My current Verada GTVI doesn't use much more than 12.5l when I'm heavy on the throttle and around 11.5 when I'm driving normal. My driving is 50% City and 50% Freeway. The reason for the Accord was actually a smaller engine and better fuel consumption.

I'll keep you up to date how I go with the Euro.

aaronng
29-06-2007, 01:02 AM
Hi guys,

I'm new here and get my new Euro Lux on Monday. I'm actually very surprised by the fuel consumption. My current Verada GTVI doesn't use much more than 12.5l when I'm heavy on the throttle and around 11.5 when I'm driving normal. My driving is 50% City and 50% Freeway. The reason for the Accord was actually a smaller engine and better fuel consumption.

I'll keep you up to date how I go with the Euro.

Well, I get 10.5 in 100% city and 7 in 100% freeway. That makes it 8.7.5L/100km for 50/50, still better than your verada's 11.5

80057
29-06-2007, 03:17 PM
6 months now and im 9.2 per 100km, thats m4 everyday from penrith to homebush, so good some days terrible others, alot of short trips on weekends adds to the consumption levels.

as aaron said making your engine work harder in a higher gear uses more petrol then lower gear, also i have found doing 130-140 uses less fuel then 110km i think becoause 110 is inbetween gears and not in the happy medium of enough power to sustain the speed. at gear 5's rev level. lowest i've gotten is about 7 after filling up on the motorway and cruising home.

the biggest surpirse is a quick spirt (not floor) then easing to a cruise consumes less then a slow longer continual acceleration. therea a fine line in there i tho

ROBERT
29-06-2007, 05:56 PM
I am quite annal regarding fuel consumption and record all fuel added to an excel spread sheet. My Euro is a standard automatic and I drive with fuel usage in mind and excellerate slowly and never drive faster than the speed limit, but I do drive ON the speed limit. I have had the car from new and just done 20,000km in a year. Overall consumption from new is 7.468 litres/100km and from 15,000 to 20,000 is 7.086 litres/100km. I do very little city driving and my shortest run is aprox 25km most of it at 110kph on the Pacific Hwy.(no trafic lights). I drive down to the Blue Mountains (350k) every couple of months. I realise my driving is not typical, especially if you live and work in the city but it shows what and automatic can do on good long runs. My best for a tankfull on a trip to Queensland is 6.552 litres/100km.

80057
29-06-2007, 06:15 PM
autos are geat for long trips and even tho i dont do long trips that often, the daily stop start of the m4 is one reason i got a auto. I find an auto sucks more juice is when your inbetween gears and mild accelerating as it tends to stay in the higher gear and labour longer before downshifting.

tony1234
29-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Just got back from the south coast today.Trip comp.told me i was getting 6.7l/100kms!!Don't know how accurate it is!!

turbo56k
30-06-2007, 09:47 AM
Do you shift at 2500rpm when in D or in tiptronic? If it is tiptronic, you shouuld shift at 3000rpm instead.


will try that and report back, thanks:thumbsup:

blk05gli
30-06-2007, 02:00 PM
6 months now and im 9.2 per 100km, thats m4 everyday from penrith to homebush, so good some days terrible others, alot of short trips on weekends adds to the consumption levels.

as aaron said making your engine work harder in a higher gear uses more petrol then lower gear, also i have found doing 130-140 uses less fuel then 110km i think becoause 110 is inbetween gears and not in the happy medium of enough power to sustain the speed. at gear 5's rev level. lowest i've gotten is about 7 after filling up on the motorway and cruising home.

the biggest surpirse is a quick spirt (not floor) then easing to a cruise consumes less then a slow longer continual acceleration. therea a fine line in there i tho

OT - you that black car that is always driving in the right hand lane?

aaronng
30-06-2007, 02:08 PM
will try that and report back, thanks:thumbsup:

Remember, the amount of throttle you use affects your fuel consumption. So if you are using more throttle at 2500rpm because it doesn't make enough torque, then you will consume more fuel than if you were using 3000-3500rpm with less throttle.

turbo56k
30-06-2007, 03:17 PM
got it, thrash it, then cruise... too easy... thanks..:D


just gotta remember to back it off before it reaches 6k zone......

Anyway went for 15000km service today, new oil motul 8100xcess.... the rev feels lively and more willingly.... :thumbsup:


Remember, the amount of throttle you use affects your fuel consumption. So if you are using more throttle at 2500rpm because it doesn't make enough torque, then you will consume more fuel than if you were using 3000-3500rpm with less throttle.

80057
02-07-2007, 09:44 AM
OT - you that black car that is always driving in the right hand lane?

graphite lux man... stock as a rock. im not always in the right lane, i sit in the middle lane if there is space infront, so any hoon doesnt have to slow down for me, and if i sneak past the speed limit, a HP cant radar me from way way back...before i see them, i dont speed often, the car speed just creeps up on you.


got it, thrash it, then cruise... too easy... thanks..:D


just gotta remember to back it off before it reaches 6k zone......

Anyway went for 15000km service today, new oil motul 8100xcess.... the rev feels lively and more willingly.... :thumbsup: dont thrash then cruise, squirt then cruise lol...

blk05gli
02-07-2007, 11:01 PM
80057 - graphite lux, will pass you 2morrow, (right lane hoon I am ;-))

80057
03-07-2007, 09:34 AM
80057 - graphite lux, will pass you 2morrow, (right lane hoon I am ;-))

lol i'll look out for you...are you a lux or std? any mags or distinguishing features?

blk05gli
05-07-2007, 03:38 PM
lol i'll look out for you...are you a lux or std? any mags or distinguishing features?

std silver - spoiler - fogs - OZ HONDA sticker YO ! (supposed to have given me better fuel consumption by reducing my drag CO :p) on rear glass

as001
23-08-2007, 02:40 PM
Most efficient fuel consumption to date 703km from 55 litres of fuel (BP 98ron) approx 7.8 per 100km

aaronng
23-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Most efficient fuel consumption to date 703km from 55 litres of fuel (BP 98ron) approx 7.8 per 100km

Wait til you start doing Sydney to Melb trips using cruise control. I got 7.0-7.2 L/100km, A/C on.

as001
23-08-2007, 02:53 PM
For a petrol engine 2.4 litre n/a car weighing almost 1.5 tonne these are very efficient consumption figures I'm very happy with the Euro

Merlin086
23-08-2007, 05:06 PM
I've averaged 9.2L/100k's over the first 20K, but just got down to 6.2L/100k's on a highway trip using 6th gear where possible, no air con, at 100-110k's!
And I believe it does rev more freely after 15k or so.

tony1234
23-08-2007, 05:38 PM
I've got as low as 6.8l/100 kms.Sydney to Canberra 4 people with luggage no A/C 110k/hr.:thumbsup:

EUR003act
24-08-2007, 12:01 AM
i get 600-650km mix city/highway driving, and 500km driving it hard, or 800km highway driving

Manual Trans

tron07
24-08-2007, 09:34 AM
I got 6.7 doing 90kmh on 6th gear on M4 to Blue Mountain... try to get it to 6.6 but it wouldnt budge, 2 ppl with aircond.

Normal outstation drive would be around 8. Normal town driving 10-10.5. Everytime I stop for petrol, it is 10.5-10.6

aaronng
24-08-2007, 09:49 AM
I got 6.7 doing 90kmh on 6th gear on M4 to Blue Mountain... try to get it to 6.6 but it wouldnt budge, 2 ppl with aircond.

Normal outstation drive would be around 8. Normal town driving 10-10.5. Everytime I stop for petrol, it is 10.5-10.6

You measuring at the pump? Or using the fuel consumption meter? The meter is a bit optimistic.

fleeball
06-09-2007, 11:47 AM
Sorry to bring up an old topic/thread, but I bought a 03 Euro Lux Auto in July and have kept a log of my fuel Consumption and the Km's travelled. I have travelled 3070Km's and used 399.56Ltrs of fuel, either 95 or 98RON. Equates to approx 13Lt/100Km.

100% of my driving in and around the City, not much highway driving. Am I getting good fuel consumption? I'm thinking its a Little on the high side. Car has 73K Km's on the clock.

aaronng
06-09-2007, 12:30 PM
13L/100km is about right for an auto and a driver with a heavy foot using 1/2 to 3/4 throttle to take off from traffic lights. Usually, it's about 11.5 to 12.0L/100km for 100% city driving.

fleeball
06-09-2007, 12:34 PM
must change my driving habits. Thanks

tron07
06-09-2007, 03:26 PM
You measuring at the pump? Or using the fuel consumption meter? The meter is a bit optimistic.

Refer to the meter, never bother to measure....

Euro_Luxury
09-09-2007, 05:39 PM
I picked up my New Accord Euro Luxury on thursday night, Took her for a drive down to phillip island on cruise she was doing 7.3L/100km. Short trips she was doing 8.6-8.8L/100km (By the way, This is an Auto).

r-r-redEuro
09-09-2007, 06:25 PM
sorry i dont believe you, brand new cars comsume more petrol then matured engine cars. and for short trips to do that low =/. i dont know mans.

Suntzu
09-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Round the city i get approx.8.8-9.2L/100kms.BUT on the highway i've had it drop as low as 6.7L/100(in 6th.doing 110kph down to Canberra)

Exactly the same here. I got 800km out of a tank on one trip. Not bad. I wasnt crawling either. 9l/100km in town driven hardish. Sub 7-8 on the highway.

BTW its POINTLESS stating anything about your consumption if you fail to mention Auto or MT.;)

tanalasta
10-09-2007, 01:55 AM
I think I've posted before but after a bit more driving (at the 33k mark currently) ...

Mix of 80% freeway driving at 100km/h and 20% surburbian in between, manage to do about 8.1 - 8.5L/100k in an automatic. However, I accelerate pretty slow off the mark and have a very steady foot on the throttle to keep fuel use constant (or use cruise control).

Let my mum drive my car for 200km and the way she constantly accelerates / decelerates (even during normal driving, she has an unsteady foot on the pedal) and the meter read's 10.2L/100km.

My car's run BP ultimate since i got it from the dealer, using Mobil 1 gold 10W-30 and have new Yoko C-drives at 36PSI if anyone wants to know the other variables :P

CL69
10-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Did a trip from Brissie to Gympie and back a couple of months back. Filled up with Ultimate (the only fuel the car has ever used) before we left and got 6.3 l/100km avg 101 klm/hr on the trip meter. Filled up when we got back and calculated consumption with the bowser and got same result!!! Had luggage, wife and baby on board. Generally get around 8.5 - 9.0 around town. We have the manual transmission with 9000 klms on the clock. Very happy with the car.

as001
28-09-2007, 04:04 PM
Best fuel consumption to date driving from Sydney to Canberra and back
710km on 55 litres of BP 98 = 7.7litres/100km
With bits of thrashing and city driving

akina
28-09-2007, 05:13 PM
Is it me or what, I get 12.7L/100km

100% suburb drive FTL.

marosch
28-09-2007, 05:58 PM
Hi guys,

I'm very pleased with the fuel consumption of my Luxury Auto.
Lowest consumption 6.9l only freeway on 100-110km/h. I do this trip on a regular basis (to and from airport 90km) and the consumption is always between 6.9-7.1.

Highest consumption 10.1l mainly city driving with aircon on.

Average consumption between 8.5 and 9.4

I drive 60% highway/freeway and 40% city.

minircc
04-10-2007, 09:10 PM
just got mine a week ago so haven't had a chance to use the full tank.. however, the guy gave it to me with half a tank and when i filled up it was around 40 litres for the half tank.. what the? doesn't sound right..

blk05gli
05-10-2007, 10:41 PM
just got mine a week ago so haven't had a chance to use the full tank.. however, the guy gave it to me with half a tank and when i filled up it was around 40 litres for the half tank.. what the? doesn't sound right..

ah, he wonders of accord fuel tanks :p. Fuel gauge is an approximate only, so from F-1/2 - needle moves nice and slowly, from 1/2-E - needle moves very quick. I think this has been explained in more detail before.

Don't worry, our tank only holds 65 ltrs.

minircc
06-10-2007, 06:56 AM
i think car makers do that deliberately just to make ppl think there cars are more fuel efficient.. only after reaching the bottom half it rushes down! argh! oh well, at least it's been confirmed it not only my car :)

aaronng
06-10-2007, 12:23 PM
It's because the tank is not perfectly symmetrical in the vertical axis and that the fuel level sensor is a linear type. For my car, between max fill to the "F" indicator, it's 70-100km. Then each quarter of the gauge is 100km. Then at the bottom when the light comes on, it's another 70-100km. (city driving btw)

EUR003act
08-10-2007, 11:51 PM
yeah i got about the same. 100km from full to the "F" (if i drive sensibly) and then 150km for each quarter onwards...i never take it below "E" max ive ever put into the tank in one go was 58Ls before the gun clicked off

tron07
09-10-2007, 09:03 AM
Is it me or what, I get 12.7L/100km

100% suburb drive FTL.


Whats the mileage on your car? Maybe its still new....

12.7 is kinda high, whats your rev range?? high rev all the time?
Traffic jam stop and go all the time also I get around 11+ seldom go up to high 12

akina
09-10-2007, 10:10 AM
mileage is almost 9000km.

A lot of spirited driving :thumbdwn:

Was at bondi junction westfield yesterday... trying to leave the carpark at around 4.30pm... OMGWTFBBQ!!! takes u atleast 15-20mins just to leave the damn carpark due to traffic, everyone is trying to get out =.=

aaronng
09-10-2007, 12:23 PM
Bondi junction westfield ftw! I miss that place. It's like an asian car park where everyone is fighting for a spot.

r-r-redEuro
09-10-2007, 12:34 PM
you should see burwood westfield in its peak hour HAHAH, 30mins - 40mins gg.

tony1234
09-10-2007, 01:08 PM
All Westfields are a joke to find a spot to park your car.:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

akina
09-10-2007, 02:25 PM
haha it was actually fine finding a spot... so many free spaces when i went there around 2. its just when i left... yes... gg

tron07
09-10-2007, 03:06 PM
you should see burwood westfield in its peak hour HAHAH, 30mins - 40mins gg.

How many free hours are they giving now? Last time it was 3 hours and after 6, its open all the time. Then its 2 hours.

I heard my friend told me now its like 1.5 or 1 hours already.....

I used to go there for movies when it was 3 hours.

akina
09-10-2007, 06:19 PM
its 2 hrs.

If u go for movies, u can ask them to give u 1 more hr free parking. So that makes up 3 hrs if u go for a movie. Well I know Bondi is. Not sure about burwood

Blitzen
10-10-2007, 11:50 PM
I dunno... I pump up my tyres all the time after I fill her up with petrol

I'm a conservative driver - honest... never really rev above 3000 thesedays and cruise around 1500 - 2000

fill up half a tank everytime, last time i did about 190 km's on a tank which was few clicks till mid way

I've got exact half a tank of vortex now, usually drive by myself - light :P and also gave her new high flow lungs

i'll see how it goes

aaronng
11-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Measure by filling the tank to max, resetting your trip meter, drive til you feel like filling up, fill up to the max again and then divide the number of litres filled the 2nd time with the number of kms you drove.

aaronng
11-10-2007, 12:33 AM
When I did city/suburb driving, I got 10-10.5L/100km. The worst was when I was stuck in traffic jams 3 out of 5 days, I got 12.4L/100km.

When I did Sydney to Melb, I got 6.6L/100km but that was full cruise control all the way. With more throttle, my next Sydney to Melb trip brought me 7.5L/100km.

blk05gli
12-10-2007, 08:39 AM
from my tax receipt yesterday:

filled up 54.12 litres and 610kms - so my consumption this week (city driving) was:
54.12/610 * 100 = 8.87l/100kms - is this correct?

aaronng
12-10-2007, 10:04 AM
^^Yup!

akina
12-10-2007, 10:13 AM
from my tax receipt yesterday:

filled up 54.12 litres and 610kms - so my consumption this week (city driving) was:
54.12/610 * 100 = 8.87l/100kms - is this correct?

8.87L/100kms CITY DRIVING! wtf =.=

I'm starting to hit 13. . .

eurofan
12-10-2007, 10:47 AM
should probably keep in mind that the definition of 'city driving' is subjective... how many start/stops, distance driven, average speed, 5at/6mt, driving style, etc. i think it's quite difficult to compare two different cars, drivers or routes, especially for city/suburban driving.

i get 12-13L for city/suburban driving (5at) also. i think this seems to be inline with the official fuel consumption ratings in the UK accord brochure...

blk05gli
13-10-2007, 09:48 PM
8.87L/100kms CITY DRIVING! wtf =.=

I'm starting to hit 13. . .

6MT, peak periods - m4/m2 - euro fuel consumption rocks !! :thumbsup:

aaronng
13-10-2007, 10:07 PM
M4/M2 does not constitute city driving, even with heavy traffic. :)

r-r-redEuro
13-10-2007, 10:18 PM
okay aaron help me a brother out. i fill up full tank, 100% city driving and i get about 400kms a tank T_T. if im lucky 450 - 480km.

killua888
13-10-2007, 11:03 PM
okay aaron help me a brother out. i fill up full tank, 100% city driving and i get about 400kms a tank T_T. if im lucky 450 - 480km.

yeah, me too.........i think its cause most of my trips are between 10-15minutes (100% city driving as well) but i'm also wanting to find a way to get more out of a tank........

akina
14-10-2007, 12:14 AM
Maybe Vtecing through every yellow you see will save you more than stopping and drive like a granny :p

aaronng
14-10-2007, 11:48 AM
Main thing is throttle position. Accelerate gently using light throttle and middle RPM. It's fine to shift at 3000rpm using light throttle. It uses less fuel than using heavy throttle and shifting at 2500rpm. It's also better for your engine as you are not lugging it. For those who do short trips that your engine oil never gets the chance to warm up, your engine will be running rich to speed up the warming up and that consumes more fuel. Nothing much you can do if you drive only short trips. To give you an idea of how I get 10.5L/100km in city driving, even an old auto Camry 2.2L driven by a lady is quicker than I am. :) Even with that, I still squeeze in 1 full throttle redline go each day.

blk05gli
14-10-2007, 09:53 PM
M4/M2 does not constitute city driving, even with heavy traffic. :)

ok - penrith-M4-seven hills - M2 - chatswood - st leonards - crows nest - lane cove - west ryde - M4 - home. my daily trip.:p

snajper
08-11-2007, 05:21 PM
I travelled 27K in 12 months. (6 speed MT) I travel to work (37km) each way and it takes me over an hour and I still get 9.5L(RON98)(I hit 7000rpm at least 5 times each way). Quite often I travel to Canberra and usually get 6.1-6.3(Cruise control). I am suprised how much auto euro consumes.

Suntzu
08-11-2007, 05:27 PM
I just got 8.4l per 100km. I just did a CAI ( fujita) and a topspeed header install.

20% was highway and 80% city driven pretty hard. I cant believe i nearly got 700km before the light came on. Its really incredible this car.

blk05gli
09-11-2007, 09:20 PM
Main thing is throttle position. Accelerate gently using light throttle and middle RPM. It's fine to shift at 3000rpm using light throttle. It uses less fuel than using heavy throttle and shifting at 2500rpm. It's also better for your engine as you are not lugging it. For those who do short trips that your engine oil never gets the chance to warm up, your engine will be running rich to speed up the warming up and that consumes more fuel. Nothing much you can do if you drive only short trips. To give you an idea of how I get 10.5L/100km in city driving, even an old auto Camry 2.2L driven by a lady is quicker than I am. :) Even with that, I still squeeze in 1 full throttle redline go each day.

those damm 2.2 camrys !!!

gun57i
08-04-2008, 11:39 PM
Hi guys,

i am new here. looking at possibly getting an accord euro lux 2004 model with approximately 120,xxx kms clocked on the car. anyone who might have a similar car tell me their fuel consumption figures?

The car is 6MT.

P.S does any know the difference between a base model euro and the luxury one?

Cheers,
Jase

Delta_One
09-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I got 320km from half a tank, which was driving very granny like which was all city driving and 10-15 min trips a lot too. I think I can get that higher too. Auto btw with air con on probably 70% of the time

gun57i
09-04-2008, 02:45 PM
So yours is around the 120K kms?

hooyn
09-04-2008, 05:01 PM
i noticed that half way to empty the tank seems to empty faster. any body know the reason for this.

my daily drive is home to freeway - 5 minutes and speed limit at 80km/h. then i hit the freeway which is vtec on ramp too 100 2nd gear then 6th all the way to uni. about 10 minutes at 100km/h 2500rpm. get into city and into uni carpark. 2 traffic lights. very short distance.

i get 550 - 600.

cruising at 60 im always in 5th with light throttle. i notice i seem to take off very quick compared to other cars. and pop it into 5th asap.

fun.

Delta_One
09-04-2008, 06:29 PM
So yours is around the 120K kms?

What do you mean?
How many k's the car has on it since new?

akina
09-04-2008, 07:13 PM
i noticed that half way to empty the tank seems to empty faster. any body know the reason for this.

the euro measures the tank vertically and the tank has less volume at the bottom than at the top.

u guys r lucky... ill be happy if i got anywhere near 500k's with a full tank...
maybe its too much vvvttaakkkk~

gun57i
10-04-2008, 08:47 AM
What do you mean?
How many k's the car has on it since new?

oops sorry

i am looking at buying an 2004 accord euro. the car has gone 120,000 kms already.

Just wondering if anyone has a car with similar KMs clocked on theirs and how is their fuel consumption at the moment?

Just curious if the fuel consumption gets worse as the car clocks more KMs

Delta_One
10-04-2008, 11:57 AM
oops sorry

i am looking at buying an 2004 accord euro. the car has gone 120,000 kms already.
Just wondering if anyone has a car with similar KMs clocked on theirs and how is their fuel consumption at the moment?


Oh alright, I got mine with only 65XXX on it in pretty much new condition, still with new car warranty so. I think 120 is pretty high for a 2004 one :S
Considering most people only do about 15-20k a year, that's pretty high k's

gun57i
10-04-2008, 12:09 PM
yeah i think so too

most likely not getting that one anymore but would be interested to know if anyone on here have that much KMs on their car is getting what sort of fuel economy on it.

ABS121
10-04-2008, 03:03 PM
yeah i think so too

most likely not getting that one anymore but would be interested to know if anyone on here have that much KMs on their car is getting what sort of fuel economy on it.


i have about 110k on the clock, 2004 model and get about 760 - 770km to a tank, thats 95% city driving, out on the highway ive gotten 910km to a tank. so to answer your question, no fuel consump doesnt really get much worst with age. Having said that, it also depends on how well maintained the car is, service history, engine run in .....

hooyn
10-04-2008, 03:31 PM
i have about 110k on the clock, 2004 model and get about 760 - 770km to a tank, thats 95% city driving, out on the highway ive gotten 910km to a tank. so to answer your question, no fuel consump doesnt really get much worst with age. Having said that, it also depends on how well maintained the car is, service history, engine run in .....

/clap wow

raz05
10-04-2008, 03:39 PM
750Km a tank, i'd be lucky if i can get 650km a tank with city and highway driving

mp-
10-04-2008, 04:14 PM
i have about 110k on the clock, 2004 model and get about 760 - 770km to a tank, thats 95% city driving, out on the highway ive gotten 910km to a tank. so to answer your question, no fuel consump doesnt really get much worst with age. Having said that, it also depends on how well maintained the car is, service history, engine run in .....

wow thats insane.
Im also in the market for one and ill be on the freeway (M4) 80% of the time. And im usually on the opposite side of the peak hr traffic jams, so there wont b many stop n goes for me.. Any where near 910 and ill be cheering.

blk05gli
10-04-2008, 09:38 PM
85K on the clock, been averaging 650km/tank for past few weeks. mainly suburban driving.

curik
11-04-2008, 04:17 AM
i have about 110k on the clock, 2004 model and get about 760 - 770km to a tank, thats 95% city driving, out on the highway ive gotten 910km to a tank. so to answer your question, no fuel consump doesnt really get much worst with age. Having said that, it also depends on how well maintained the car is, service history, engine run in .....

Did you install a hybrid electric motor in your car? Or do you live in a city with no traffic lights and speed limit (Alice Springs city)? 760kms in 95% city mode is just simply fantastic, and I could not believe that number. That's 7.8l/100km!

thenozman
11-04-2008, 09:50 AM
I can confirm ABS121's figures. I have a 2006 manual standard and consistently manage about 7.2 - 7.6l/100km's in town and have been down to 5.3l/100km's on the highway.

The secret is to short shift (i.e. keep revs below 2000rpm) and use quarter throttle. Just be sure to not let the engine get too bogged down.

curik
11-04-2008, 10:16 AM
Anyone with performance mods willing to share their fuel consumption figures? Since I modded up my car I hardly ever think about fuel economy and always exploits the power. But I am surprised I still get a reasonable efficiency. Thumbs up for i-vtec!

ABS121
11-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Did you install a hybrid electric motor in your car? Or do you live in a city with no traffic lights and speed limit (Alice Springs city)? 760kms in 95% city mode is just simply fantastic, and I could not believe that number. That's 7.8l/100km!

Nah dude, i live in sydney and do mostly peak hour driving to and from work in the city. as someone else mentioned, light throttle, keep it in the 1800rpm to 2500rpm band. dont load up the boot with crap, and keep your tyre pressures 10 - 15% above the placard reading.

ms700
13-04-2008, 09:16 PM
Picked up my 6MT Euro on Friday, buzzed around town a bit, then took it Canb - Sydney and back, was averaging 6.9 ltrs per hungee, odometer hasnt hit 1000 kays yet. Very impressed with it! Speeds were between 110 and 120 GPS.

johnprocter
13-04-2008, 11:08 PM
I can confirm ABS121's figures. I have a 2006 manual standard and consistently manage about 7.2 - 7.6l/100km's in town and have been down to 5.3l/100km's on the highway.

The secret is to short shift (i.e. keep revs below 2000rpm) and use quarter throttle. Just be sure to not let the engine get too bogged down.

lol i think i'd die if i had to drive like that

viper8548
14-04-2008, 02:49 AM
lol i think i'd die if i had to drive like that

lol i know, i nearly cried when i read it :p but anyhow, im pretty impressed it the car can actually achieve such low consumption.

80057
14-04-2008, 08:53 AM
Picked up my 6MT Euro on Friday, buzzed around town a bit, then took it Canb - Sydney and back, was averaging 6.9 ltrs per hungee, odometer hasnt hit 1000 kays yet. Very impressed with it! Speeds were between 110 and 120 GPS.

Euros are awesome for the longer drives, nice easy long distance drive to. peolple might say suspension is alittle to soft but for long cruises they are awesome., i've got to as low as 6.5 per 100ks going up to port mac, thats the lowest ive been to, back now with 50/50 highway and city driving, (M4 sux tho) i average 8.2

Merlin086
15-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Must be somthing about Port. as I too have done 6.5l/100k's there and back.

With the jtune xtreme prototype (yes, still waiting) I'm getting, over the past 6,000k's with the xtreme fitted............

Around town 9.2-9.5
Trip, highway 6.5-7.2
Overall Hwy70%/30%Town 8.4l/100k's

I tend to drive around town in fifth due to the increase in torque.

johnprocter
15-04-2008, 06:54 PM
lol i cant believe u still have prototype WTF!

Merlin086
15-04-2008, 07:57 PM
lol i cant believe u still have prototype WTF!

What can I say.....not really surprised............:eek::(:thumbdwn:

tron07
16-04-2008, 11:17 AM
The lowest I manage to get was 6.7l/100km.... usually it is around 11.Xl/100km, mostly town driving

Crapdaz
17-04-2008, 07:58 AM
with my minimal mods i do around 11.45/100km mostly city driving.

when it was stock i almost drove to port macquarie and back with 1 tank was scared so i topped up (6.3l/100km).

NOTE:It also depends on what fuel you get i was using BP ultimate.

Exar Kun
17-04-2008, 09:38 AM
Canberra to Sydney (into the CBD) I managed 6.8L/100km. On the way back it was 7.0L/100km. I guess it's uphill all he way back. :)

EUR003act
21-04-2008, 06:22 PM
Anyone with performance mods willing to share their fuel consumption figures? Since I modded up my car I hardly ever think about fuel economy and always exploits the power. But I am surprised I still get a reasonable efficiency. Thumbs up for i-vtec!

Ok here are official figures for my car :)

details are as follows:
Trip: south canberra to west melbourne, and return (through city traffic)
Mods: RBC intake manifold
P2R throttle body spacer
P2R throttle body gasket
Hondata intake manifold gasket
TODA racing headers
Hiflow metal cat
K&N typhoon SRI
UR lightened/underdrive pulleys
Tyres:225/40 18s at 42psi
Temp: 20degrees C
Fuel: BP ultimate RON98
Consumption: 6.2L per 100km

viper8548
21-04-2008, 07:07 PM
wow 42psi is that normal for 18s?

EUR003act
21-04-2008, 08:09 PM
wow 42psi is that normal for 18s?

mine state 35-45psi... :) so i hope its normal lol