Suntzu's Mod Log

[Suntzu]

Hi all,:wave:

Ive been on these forums in various active states for 2 years since I bought my new 2005 Milano Red Standard Euro. All I did initially was add the 18x7 Gold Speedy Lite 7 wheels. ( see avatar left)

After much consideration for many months I decided to re-lease the Euro as my 2 year business lease expired this month. So I'm leasing for another 2 years and will outright own the car
BOTTOM LINE: Im 100% free to Mod this Red Beast:thumbsup:

So instead of screwing around with bits and pieces;today (June 07) I ordered and paid for:

SUSPENSION MODS COMPLETE - AND AWESOME !:thumbsup:
Tein SS Coilovers - Installed
Cusco Front Strut Bar - Installed
Whiteline Rear Sway Bar - Installed
Ingalls Camber Kit - Installed

All this came to $2044 delivered. Not bad I say.

I decided that suspension mods are the way to go to get better on road performance. Im often in situations in Canberra where its my lack of handling thats the issue in normal and spirited driving, not power. It seems that my car has gotten a bit soggy in the handling over the 2 years. I really do notice it. It will be fixed with the above mods I should expect.

COSMETIC/AUDIO:

Euro-R Genuine Front grill with matching red surrounds Installed. Love it
AUDIO: www.xcarlink.com.au (http://www.xcarlink.com.au/) installed USB version. Its good. Full wheel control of MP3 songs. see my mini review. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1375793&postcount=32)
M3 Rear Spoiler Mod: Cancelled due dodgy fitting/design


http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9499/frntqtr2wr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Performance mods: UPDATED :wave:
Now the Aussie dollar is 89cents Vs USD !!! :):thumbsup:

I have ordered today( October 07):
Fujita CAI for $320 AUD landed Bargain. REPLACED BY COMPTECH ICEBOX WITH K&N FILTER Fujita = Cop magnet
Topspeed Stainless Steel Header $340 landed. Now received and pending install. ( i know its not toda etc, but its got to be better than stock based on what I read at the other forums in USA)
JTUNE MILD FLASH : Fully Installed and Great! Vtec now 5000rpm more power/tqr $899
COST OF ENGINE MODS: $1559
Magnaflow 300 Cell CAT Installed $400


I'm aiming for the lowest $dollar per kilowatt ratio on these forums. Ill get some Dynos to see how I do!

So there you go. Im basically doing the lot at once. Im pretty excited about it and I welcome any comments or suggestions that you may have.

I will post pics when the gear arrives:

First Pic:

Tein SS and Whiteline Installed: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3791/side1xd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thats not me thats my bro in law. Its a bit low at the front but handles extremely well and the ride is like stock. settings 12 and 8 on the F/R shocks.

cheers

russ;)
Canberra

[JasonGilholme]

hondata will cost about as much as the intake and headers combined.

your basically doubling the cost by getting tuning.

IMO get the headers and intake. Don't get ebay headers cause they'll probably do more harm then good. Theres a fair few companies out there that make headers that are under 1000 bucks. 700 - 800 should be doable but you'll need to search.

Good luck

Jase

[Suntzu]

Yes I take your point.

Im am think quality headers and CAI may be a better investment than Hondata as they can be removed and sold if needed ( since hondata will cost to be removed and hence has no resale value)

Im not looking for a lot of extra power, a little mid range torque and a nice engine note under acceleration would be nice! I actually just want 30NM through the rev range if possible.

Ill post some updates and pics as the goods arrive. I know im going to have some fun fitting some of the parts! Im a bit of a noob mechanic :)

Generally though I think ive got the right mods so far in terms of the suspension. This forum and the members here have been invaluable in helping me make the right decision the first time.

cheers

[tony1234]

Yes I take your point.

Im am think quality headers and CAI may be a better investment than Hondata as they can be removed and sold if needed ( since hondata will cost to be removed and hence has no resale value)

Im not looking for a lot of extra power, a little mid range torque and a nice engine note under acceleration would be nice! I actually just want 30NM through the rev range if possible.

Ill post some updates and pics as the goods arrive. I know im going to have some fun fitting some of the parts! Im a bit of a noob mechanic :)

Generally though I think ive got the right mods so far in terms of the suspension. This forum and the members here have been invaluable in helping me make the right decision the first time.

cheers
That's a good suspension setup.You wont know your car after you get all that stuff fitted,it'll transform it!:thumbsup:

[LXRY]

Good call on the mods, you will be the envy of all in this forum

[BusterSonic12]

sooo much mods in one go... jealous

[Zdster]

hondata will cost about as much as the intake and headers combined.

your basically doubling the cost by getting tuning.

IMO get the headers and intake. Don't get ebay headers cause they'll probably do more harm then good. Theres a fair few companies out there that make headers that are under 1000 bucks. 700 - 800 should be doable but you'll need to search.

Good luck

Jase

Good advice. IMO leave the Hondata alone and just get a decent set of headers.

[Suntzu]

It has begun:

In case you guys thought I was full of s**t I present the whitleine RSB:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7582/whitlineqb4.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitlineqb4.jpg)

Im expecting the Tein SS, Cusco and Ingalls in about 5-6working days. Euro-r grill in aweek or so.

Have to try and install the RSB myself with a buddy. Should be ok.

Im getting quoted $414 for the Tein installation and alignment? Is that about right pricewise?

Back to headers, the problem for me is that $1200+ headers arent allowed in my mod budget. Its purely an arbitary amount im limiting myself to. Then you go straight down to the elcheapo ebay headers.. not much in the $500-$800 header range at the moment.

more to come

[Zdster]

Back to headers, the problem for me is that $1200+ headers arent allowed in my mod budget. Its purely an arbitary amount im limiting myself to. Then you go straight down to the elcheapo ebay headers.. not much in the $500-$800 header range at the moment.


My personal feeling if your options are ebay headers or nothing (as the rest are to expensive), stick with the stock factory piping.

[BusterSonic12]

It has begun:

Back to headers, the problem for me is that $1200+ headers arent allowed in my mod budget. Its purely an arbitary amount im limiting myself to. Then you go straight down to the elcheapo ebay headers.. not much in the $500-$800 header range at the moment.

more to come

just wait a while, and see what comptech header provides? since that's the price range your after.

[sodaz]

Suntzu welcome to the dark side. ;) Remember, modding is crack.

Those mods will transform your car for sure. I'm sure you'll love it .

[tony1234]

It has begun:

In case you guys thought I was full of s**t I present the whitleine RSB:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7582/whitlineqb4.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitlineqb4.jpg)

Im expecting the Tein SS, Cusco and Ingalls in about 5-6working days. Euro-r grill in aweek or so.

Have to try and install the RSB myself with a buddy. Should be ok.

Im getting quoted $414 for the Tein installation and alignment? Is that about right pricewise?

Back to headers, the problem for me is that $1200+ headers arent allowed in my mod budget. Its purely an arbitary amount im limiting myself to. Then you go straight down to the elcheapo ebay headers.. not much in the $500-$800 header range at the moment.

more to come
Rear RSB is easy to install(i've done it).$414 seems a bit much.I think approx.$280-300 would be about right.

[Suntzu]

ok.

M3 Style Lip spolier is in. Looks ok.

Pics soon.

Got confirmation on the ingalls and a few other bits.

Busy week coming up!


Only place left for a suspension install is Quickfit/Jax who may give me a discount if i get tyres at the same time...hmm..i want the best alignment tho no matter the cost. I see it as a safety issues when wife drives teh beast!

Ill sit on the header issue for week or so...

[Suntzu]

Tein Super Street Coilovers are in and the Cusco Strur bar came 10 mins laters. Looks like quality parts to me esp the tein.


Tein:


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8794/suspsmdb6.jpg
Cusco:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6839/strut1yy7.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6799/cuscosmallpn0.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cuscosmallpn0.jpg)

[mugen88]

It has begun:

In case you guys thought I was full of s**t I present the whitleine RSB:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7582/whitlineqb4.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitlineqb4.jpg)

Im expecting the Tein SS, Cusco and Ingalls in about 5-6working days. Euro-r grill in aweek or so.

Have to try and install the RSB myself with a buddy. Should be ok.

Im getting quoted $414 for the Tein installation and alignment? Is that about right pricewise?

Back to headers, the problem for me is that $1200+ headers arent allowed in my mod budget. Its purely an arbitary amount im limiting myself to. Then you go straight down to the elcheapo ebay headers.. not much in the $500-$800 header range at the moment.

more to come

Why dont you consider Xforce headers I think its about $399 in S/S
link: http://www.xforce.com.au/cars/view_car/31

[Suntzu]

Thats looks very good actually. Is this an australian only product or can I read about it here and other tSX forums.

PS: My CUSCO Strut Bar arrived today its like Xmas here!

[mugen88]

Thats looks very good actually. Is this an australian only product or can I read about it here and other tSX forums.

PS: My CUSCO Strut Bar arrived today its like Xmas here!

I have a feeling it is the same as the ebay (DC copy) version, well they look pretty close for the similar $$$ and you can get them locally.

Even though it is cheap you will notice a change in driving. However with any upgrade in yr exhaust you will not get any max gain without dyno tune.

[Suntzu]

Yes it does look very simlar doesnt it. I did a search and cant find much on it.

Im booked for 4 new tyres, the full install of the Tein, RSB and camber kit. I have got the camber kit yet so im hoping it arrives by thursday. Its about $400 for the full install and setup. The alignment is part of the new tyres deal.

Hopefully should go well.

cheers

[tony1234]

Yes it does look very simlar doesnt it. I did a search and cant find much on it.

Im booked for 4 new tyres, the full install of the Tein, RSB and camber kit. I have got the camber kit yet so im hoping it arrives by thursday. Its about $400 for the full install and setup. The alignment is part of the new tyres deal.

Hopefully should go well.

cheers
what tyres did you get??

[Suntzu]

M3 $100 ebay spoiler pre install. Colour is exact:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2140/m3spoilereb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Fitting soon:

[tony1234]

M3 $100 ebay spoler pre install. Colour is exact:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2671/m3spoilerou0.jpg
Looks good.Can't wait to pick mine up.:p

[Suntzu]

Cheers Tony.

Im getting Michelin G-force 225/40/r18. Price not to bad at $270 each fitted. I decided not to pony up for the Sport Maxx/dunlp f1 as I was getting $390 a tyre. Rather spend that on mods like headers etc.

[tony1234]

Cheers Tony.

Im getting Michelin G-force 225/40/r18. Price not to bad at $270 each fitted. I decided not to pony up for the Sport Maxx/dunlp f1 as I was getting $390 a tyre. Rather spend that on mods like headers etc.
Mmm.Michelin G-force for $270.I'd be int.to see what you think of them.Please let us know(also post pics of tread).:)

[TRaNz]

me = jealous +1.... :p
Congratz man, your gettin all them goods so quick now aye, cant wait to see them installed.:D

[sodaz]

Why dont you consider Xforce headers I think its about $399 in S/S
link: http://www.xforce.com.au/cars/view_car/31

I wonder how this header performs compared to others like DC Sports, Comptech, Toda etc...

[Suntzu]

What can I say but :
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4331/sideqtrek9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mini Review: Tein Installed and RSB in. No camber or strut bar yet. New Tyres BFG G-Force

Setup:
Ok. I asked to have the car lowered 40mm at front and 35mm rear but I think its a lot lower than that. Its too low at the front. Ill raise it 10mm. It scraps on the back of an ants arse.
Theres 3 degrees of rear camber which is ok for now. Camber kit next week.
I have 0 toe on front and 1mm positive each rear for a total of 2mm positive. It tracks VERY well. Its very stable, way better than stock and doesnt pull. Even with the 3 degrees camber.

Brief Opinion Day one:

Its handles almost completely flat. It has an abundance of front grip, giving a new found confidence through corners at speed. The "doughyness" through roundabouts when pressed has been replaced with a solid connection with the road, giving you the confidence to adjust your position as speed when needed with no unsettling. Its safer than stock I believe because you can react and be connected to a result immediately on the road. Basically it "feels"like you can take corners safely at double the normal speed. i would never attempt that on a public road though. Another point that i didnt expect: the VSA is kicking in MUCH later than before. Yes I have new tyres but the VSA is seemily not interested until the very very severe limit. Before it would engage willy nilly.

The car feels a lot more solid because its not moving around at all.

The ride is excellent when set at the 8/8 shock setting and handles bumps very well. That being said I wouldnt be crashing over large potholes in a hurry.

Overall :
Im very pleased with the result. It has exceeded my high personal expectations. Handling very good, ride excellent. Look = great. Ive got that semi touring car look i was after. No need for a bodykit.

Next:

M3 lip spoiler and front strut install -

PS: Yes some lame b'stard stole my centre cap. Trying to get a new one from speedy is not easy...

[tony1234]

Wait till you get the RSB and ft strut brace on,you'll notice that the car feels even more "tighter" whilst cornering or going through twisties.BTW i thought you were getting Michelins,your pic shows BF Goodrichs.which ones are they?

[Suntzu]

Yeah i thought I was too. But they are BFG G-Force (jax told me BS) . BTW I already have the RSB installed see above. Just the Cusco Strut bar to fit tommorow. The tyres seem fine, but I have had crappy falkens for 2 years! so whos know. Check the sick camber lol. No good. Looks like more than 3 degrees eh? All I can say is try as I might today I could not break traction in any capacity today after these mods...

Pics as requested:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8662/tyresx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More to come tommorow as the mods hit.

I think im hitting the record for most mods in a few days....

Got some potentially exciting news re engine mods too..stay tuned..

[euro77]

looks good.

how did that person stole your centre cap? I thought it will be darn hard to take out from the front (unless he/she knocks it off from the inside, which is impossible???)

[Suntzu]

Lets just say I had the tyres rotated at my local honda dealer with service. And just maybe one of the apprentices has his car out the front with the same wheels....hello! Now noboby knows any thing. Im the knob cause I bought a CRV lux auto 2 weeks later at same dealership and I STILL dont get any love...

[mugen88]

Tein Super Street Coilovers are in and the Cusco Strur bar came 10 mins laters. Looks like quality parts to me esp the tein.


Tein:


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8794/suspsmdb6.jpg
Cusco:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6839/strut1yy7.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6799/cuscosmallpn0.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cuscosmallpn0.jpg)

Well done on the mods and continued write up.

Is yr Cusco strut brace painted blue on the main bar as well, just looks different?

[yfin]

hondata will cost about as much as the intake and headers combined.

That isn't correct - I think you are thinking of the K-Pro. The Hondata for the Euro is a reflash which isn't very expensive if you just get the flash without bolt ons.

[yfin]

Im am think quality headers and CAI may be a better investment than Hondata as they can be removed and sold if needed ( since hondata will cost to be removed and hence has no resale value)


Good work ont he setup Suntzu! Have you thought about the lower arm bar - it is good if you can avoid damaging it.

RE your point above - I wouldn't think of any of your parts when it comes to resale.

[mugen88]

Good work ont he setup Suntzu! Have you thought about the lower arm bar - it is good if you can avoid damaging it.

RE your point above - I wouldn't think of any of your parts when it comes to resale.

Yeah resale value is only worth whats someones prepared to pay for it.

As long as you found it of value then it has been worth it just like the rest of us.

[tony1234]

Yeah i thought I was too. But they are BFG G-Force (jax told me BS) . BTW I already have the RSB installed see above. Just the Cusco Strut bar to fit tommorow. The tyres seem fine, but I have had crappy falkens for 2 years! so whos know. Check the sick camber lol. No good. Looks like more than 3 degrees eh? All I can say is try as I might today I could not break traction in any capacity today after these mods...

Pics as requested:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8662/tyresx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More to come tommorow as the mods hit.

I think im hitting the record for most mods in a few days....

Got some potentially exciting news re engine mods too..stay tuned..
You have the RSB on already.........my bad.:o.I had the same rear camber as yours before i got my camber kit fitted.Get the camber kit fitted ASAP.Once you get that fitted all will be good.:thumbsup:

[snYpz]

awesome job suntzu!
im gonna get the tein ss soon aswell with whiteline rsb...

hmmm...is it worth paying more for the tein cs for the extra comfort for street?

[BusterSonic12]

awesome job suntzu!
im gonna get the tein ss soon aswell with whiteline rsb...

hmmm...is it worth paying more for the tein cs for the extra comfort for street?

i reckon the SS is perfect for street use :thumbsup: A+ u can feel that there are more grips on each of the tires.

[Suntzu]

My Tein SS street at 8F/8R is 95% of stock ride. But has 100% better handling...
And this is a no-shit assessment after 2 years at stock ride etc...

[Suntzu]

Ok,

Strut Bar installation was a breeze. Not sure if I can feel the difference because I go so much done at once. Te front end is VERY well tied down and firmed up.

Iv got the tein on 10 front and 8 rear settings, seems to suit. The car handles very very nicely and has impressive stability.

Euro-R grill arriving tommorow. Still no word on the Ingalls camber kit that I need desperatley.

Im still annoyed at the slight gearbox whine I have , not sure if its bad enuff to get a warranty job but ive also developed the 6000rpm high freq rattle in the dash which is a bitch but ill get it sorted out.

I was thinking of flushing the manual transmission fluid but that top filler bolt looks impossible to get to!

[yfin]

but ive also developed the 6000rpm high freq rattle in the dash which is a bitch but ill get it sorted out.


Turn your heater temperature down if you are going to VTEC - this solves the rattle from the heater core

[Suntzu]

OK,

I fitted the JDM Type R grill. It was a bit of a pain in the ass getting to the clips and I mangled a few. Yfin saved me $150 by advising me how to use the existing radiator cover, saving me from buying the JDM one.

Heres a shot:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/762/front3va0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More shots to come. The cars looks a lot tougher now lowered and with the grill. Im still in two minds about the M3 lip spoiler option. I kind of like the clean look of the car now.

I have the Ingalls camber kit and its getting fitted on the 6th Aug. Tyres should be ok till then, I'll probably only do 500kms.

The handling is great but I need to look at the ride height again before the camber gets fitted as Im doing another alignment then. I did scrub the underbody of the car under hard cornering on a smooth surface which surprised me. The height has to go up. I need to get access to the rear Tein suspension adjustment also so I can play with it.

For anyone thinking of the suspension mods, you really need to have it set at the desired height then drive it for a few weeks, let it settle , play with the dampers and then set the height again and have it aligned properly. I think this is the only way to get the best result for the individual.

More shots to come.

Still no word on my potential engine mods and tuning and who knows about hondata!

EDIT : Update: This is now my second favorite mod. After the Tien SS and the resulting lower stance, the grill really makes the car look tougher. Its a combination of the lowering, the wheels and the grill that make it look a fair bit different from other euros. I get a fe wlooks cause of its modded-semi-stealth appearance, esp from other euro owners...

[snYpz]

hahahah sweet!
i have yet installed mine. Got my grill from ISmotoracing about a month ago...just havent had time to go get it painted and installed! also got my m3 spoiler to install as well

will get my tein ss hopefully at the end of the month and our cars will be kinda similar lol!

looks sweet as Suntzu! keep us posted with more pics and ur ride height!

[yfin]

Yfin saved me $150 by advising me how to use the existing radiator cover, saving me from buying the JDM one.

It wasn't so hard to fit the OEM one was it?! No point getting the JDM one.

By the way - looks awesome. Really changes the appearance.

[killua888]

hmmmm, looks sweet.

how much did the grille cost you guys from is?

[Suntzu]

It was about $350 with the grill itself and the two painted surounds. Plus a bit of shipping. Looks the goods though.

I have installed my camber kit. Its all good. Pics and an update soon.

[h1coupe]

I am running the ebay header, and aside from the crappy flex pipe(which I had replaced) I am very happy with it.
there is a dyno on acurazine on it and it does make power according to that one, I sadly haven´t got a befor and after dyno on the header to confirm that:(

I have also got the K&N typhoon cai and am very happy with that(nice growly sound at wot)
and the Hondata reflash, that of course is my favorite mod to date:)

210crank hp and 247.5NM (around 30whp@6000rpm gain)

in a couple of weeks I´ll have ep3 CTR 1-5th gear and final drive+flywheel. and cause of our crappy stock gearing I am betting that will become my favorite mod:)

[BusterSonic12]

HONDATA!!! is it out?


I am running the ebay header, and aside from the crappy flex pipe(which I had replaced) I am very happy with it.
there is a dyno on acurazine on it and it does make power according to that one, I sadly haven´t got a befor and after dyno on the header to confirm that:(

I have also got the K&N typhoon cai and am very happy with that(nice growly sound at wot)
and the Hondata reflash, that of course is my favorite mod to date:)

210crank hp and 247.5NM (around 30whp@6000rpm gain)

in a couple of weeks I´ll have ep3 CTR 1-5th gear and final drive+flywheel. and cause of our crappy stock gearing I am betting that will become my favorite mod:)

[yfin]

he is in iceland and got the US version

[Suntzu]

in a couple of weeks I´ll have ep3 CTR 1-5th gear and final drive+flywheel. and cause of our crappy stock gearing I am betting that will become my favorite mod:)

Im pretty interested int his CTR ?? 1-5 gear swap. Ive always said the euro's gearing was , well, wrong..

What is a ep3 CTR, how much and what does it do? And what are you doing to final drive? Very interesting.

[h1coupe]

as you put it, yes the stock euro gearing is horribly wrong:(
of the 6speed boxes we have the shortest 1st and longest 2-6th gears and also the highest final drive? gearing giving us a maximum calculated speed of 195mph?

the gap between 1st and 2nd is so horrible that it is almost impossible to get reasonable performance out of the car, and that is also one of the reasons that I messed up the 2nd gear syncro?

but anyway the ep3 ctr is the 2001-2005 civic type-R.
so we have

stock vs ctr
1st 3.533 vs 3.266
2nd 1.88 vs 2.13
3rd 1.355 vs 1.517
4th 1.028 vs 1.147
5th 0.825 vs 0.921
6th 0.659 keeping that one for highway cruising.

and final drive
4.389 vs 4.764

after maximum speed will change accordingly.(my rev limit is raised to 7600rpm)
stock vs new gearing
1st 36.42mph vs 36.33mph
2nd 68.45mph vs 55.71mph
3rd 95.04mph vs 78.22mph
4th 125.18mph vs 103.45mph
5th 155.98mph vs 128.83mph
6th 195.27 vs 180.05mph

so you see the gearing will be much tighter.
I can´t wait to check it out:)

http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/index.php?MaxRPM=7600&TireDiameter=24.97&GearRatio1=3.533&GearRatio2=1.88&GearRatio3=1.354&GearRatio4=1.028&GearRatio5=0.825&GearRatio6=0.659&FinalDrive=4.389&TireWidth=225&TireAspect=45&RimDiameter=17&MaxRPM_2=7600&TireDiameter_2=24.97&GearRatio1_2=3.266&GearRatio2_2=2.13&GearRatio3_2=1.517&GearRatio4_2=1.147&GearRatio5_2=0.921&GearRatio6_2=0.659&FinalDrive_2=4.76&TireWidth_2=225&TireAspect_2=45&RimDiameter_2=17&Calculate=Calculate%2FGraph&Compare=1

[Suntzu]

How expensive is it to do this gear swap? I reckon shortening 2nd and keeping 6th the same would be an awesome mod.

BTW heres an updated shot of my front grill.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5646/frontgrillsmallfi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

All my suspension mods are now complete. Whiteline Rear Sway bar, Tein SS, Front tower strut by Cusco and Ingalls camber kit and alignment all done...now bring on the KILLAWATTS!

[r-r-redEuro]

thats nice heaps nice just need that sports lip and you look exactly like mine except i dont have coilovers, or rims :( LOL

[E-Gene]

How's the handling?

[aaronng]

after maximum speed will change accordingly.(my rev limit is raised to 7600rpm)
stock vs new gearing
1st 36.42mph vs 36.33mph
2nd 68.45mph vs 55.71mph
3rd 95.04mph vs 78.22mph
4th 125.18mph vs 103.45mph
5th 155.98mph vs 128.83mph
6th 195.27 vs 180.05mph

so you see the gearing will be much tighter.
I can´t wait to check it out:)

http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/index.php?MaxRPM=7600&TireDiameter=24.97&GearRatio1=3.533&GearRatio2=1.88&GearRatio3=1.354&GearRatio4=1.028&GearRatio5=0.825&GearRatio6=0.659&FinalDrive=4.389&TireWidth=225&TireAspect=45&RimDiameter=17&MaxRPM_2=7600&TireDiameter_2=24.97&GearRatio1_2=3.266&GearRatio2_2=2.13&GearRatio3_2=1.517&GearRatio4_2=1.147&GearRatio5_2=0.921&GearRatio6_2=0.659&FinalDrive_2=4.76&TireWidth_2=225&TireAspect_2=45&RimDiameter_2=17&Calculate=Calculate%2FGraph&Compare=1
What was your trap speed at your last 1/4 mile? If you exceed 103mph, you will waste time shifting into 5th without much track left, while the stock car will be able to finish it with 4 gears.

[h1coupe]

I just got 2runs in befor I busted my 2nd gear syncro and both those runs were bad. launching @2000rpm to avoid wheelhop and better run was 15.022@93.54mph, got 94.xxmph the second run. so I´m not close to exceeding the 4th gear:)

[h1coupe]

[QUOTE=Suntzu;1302918]How expensive is it to do this gear swap? I reckon shortening 2nd and keeping 6th the same would be an awesome mod.

QUOTE]


I just purchased a used ctr gearbox from england and am having the whole internal swapped into my casing, only 6th gear to be replaced.

you can´t shorten only 2nd gear, then you have to change out 1st(they are stuck together on the mainshaft), there is an option to close them better together that is to swap the 1st and 2nd to TSX gearing, TSX has a longer 1st gear making them closer together, and then swapping final drive to 4.764 or 5.062, shortening all gears. I had thought about that, but decided on this.

costs me only the price of the gearbox, it´s beeing fixed under warranty.
cost of the box is something like 1500aud.

[melloy_honda]

Very nice... just get some driving lights in there and you'll be laughing!

[Suntzu]

Yeah ive been tossing that one up but not sure if i need to keep my right fog hole open for some CAI action!

[melloy_honda]

I got my diving lights from US for $70 inc shipping... so its no big deal to remove them later for CAI. Then again there is a tonne of room down there for that.
Where abouts did you get the grill from?

[ig3o]

where can i get these parts for cheap?
-Tein SS Coilovers
-Cusco Front Strut Bar
-Whiteline Rear Sway Bar

[Suntzu]

I got mine from Max Honda power in the traders section here. The RSB was from whiteline direct.

[040501912]

ebay FTW lol

[Suntzu]

I've been running the new Tein SS and the RSB and strut bar for a few months now. I've got it set at setting 10 hardness. Thats 6 clicks back from fully clockwise on the front. I haven't changed the rear setting in fact i dont know what it is as I have been able to work out how to get the seat out.


I did get a workshop manual CD from ebay and that is excellent.

Also my alignment setting seem to be very decent. That's zero camber front and zero toe. And 1mm toe IN at the rear with a tiny bit of camber with the ingalls kit. Tracks well, doesn't tram line ( better than stock FTW) and self centres ok. At speed the car is VERY VERY stable. Its amazing actually and inspires a lot of confidence.

You can really get up a pace in traffic and just hold it through roundabouts and so on. Makes the car flow a lot better. Easier on brakes. I haven't found the limit yet but the car WILL OVERSTEER if you turn of VSA and hook in ridiculously hard:eek:. Which is unsafe so I dont do it. :DThe balance is neutral slightly oversteer. Its perfect.

I might soften the front rear shocks a bit for everyday driving though.

I was looking at a package that Mark from HYPERTUNE ( see http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69190 ) contacted me about but that was a few months ago and since he's not returning emails or PM's :thumbdwn: I'm assuming he's bailing on his offer of the HALTECH tune and header/cai package.

Would have been nice for him to have at least contacted me to say he's not doing it anymore, especially after we discussed it at length over the phone. (seemed like a nice guy) Not a very professional way of doing business.

So looks like the basic Hondata Flash with some decent headers and maybe a Injen/K&N/Comptech CAi cant decide which. This will give me a nice boost for under $2k. Can't pony up the $4000+ sight unseen, especially as ill probably get the next euro in less than 2 years.:cool:

Heres a pic :
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6413/p1020544mu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ig3o]

do u need a new radiator cover for the euroR grill?

[Suntzu]

I modded ( read: hacked the bastard) to make it fit. Saved $150. You'd be pressed to pick it.

[350G]

cant take the rear seat out?
are u serious?
just pull it up and unscrew a bolt
that's it

[Suntzu]

Pull what up exactly?

[Merlin086]

You access through the seat squabs next to the door.
From memory there is a bolt you can undo to remove them.

However, long term solution is that the top of the shocks where the damper adjustment key fits in is just below the plastic moulding that is behind the seat when you fold it forward. I just drilled a hole about 10mm through the molding so the key fits down through the access hoole into the top of the shock and...click,click..adjust...

So all you have to do to adjust in future is fold the seat down and poke the key through the access hole to adjust, take about 10 sec each side.
I you like I can take a pic in the morning so you can see what I mean.

[EUR003act]

Russell - i took your advice :p

new title under my name???

[Suntzu]

My advice? Which bit?

Yes i see you are the new event manager. This is good.

Im still tossing up my mod options for my car and log....to Jtune or not to Jtune, that is the question!

[EUR003act]

the adivce on being event manager lol

ill organise another meet for a month or two... when its warmer! prob a BBQ or something sweet like that

[tron07]

lol.... I had organise 3 sydney euro meets already

[Suntzu]

Now the Aussie dollar is 89cents !!! :):thumbsup:

I have ordered today: (of ebay in USA)
Fujita CAI for $320 AUD landed Bargain.
Topspeed Stainless Steel Header $340 landed.
Im planning on the JTUNE mild flash also.

I know its not a toda header etc, but its got to be better than stock based on what I read at the other forums in USA. In fact a lot of people at these forums are reporting somewhere between DC header and Comptech header performance. And for the price,if i dont like it I can always go back to stock.

Ill install the CAI and the Header. Ill DYNO the car and then Ill Jtune flash and Dyno the car.

What you guys think of my evil plan?

[sodaz]

Now the Aussie dollar is 89cents !!! :):thumbsup:

I have ordered today: (of ebay in USA)
Fujita CAI for $320 AUD landed Bargain.
Topspeed Stainless Steel Header $340 landed.
Im planning on the JTUNE mild flash also.

I know its not a toda header etc, but its got to be better than stock based on what I read at the other forums in USA. In fact a lot of people at these forums are reporting somewhere between DC header and Comptech header performance. And for the price,if i dont like it I can always go back to stock.

Ill install the CAI and the Header. Ill DYNO the car and then Ill Jtune flash and Dyno the car.

What you guys think of my evil plan?

Should be a sweet combo. For the topspeed header, you might want to replace the flex pipe section so it doesn't crack and hiss before you install it. Better than putting it on and taking it off again.

Good luck!

[Suntzu]

Topspeed Stainless Steel Header arrived.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9481/toppl7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It looks ok. It very solid, its got good TIG welds. The design looks decent for what I paid $340 AUD landed.
If I get 6kw out of it an 10nm I'll be happy.
The runners have been smoothed out. The intake area looks smooth and clean.

Im assuming by the way each of the 4 pipes combine together that this is due to the cyclinder firing order. 1and 4 2 and 3. Im guessing this is to keep the extractors filled evenly and consistently. I wonder if the stock header does this?

Im tossing up if I should dyno it stock then fit headers and intake,then Dyno 2 and then Mild REFLASH ( ordered today) and dyno 3 but it might get expensive. Not sure what a dyno cost in Canberra.

Ill report in when fitted.

[BusterSonic12]

^ doesn't look too bad.
in sydney, a dyno run cost about $50. if you doing more than once, mayb u can talk to the garage and organise a cheaper dyno if u going back to them for more.

[mugen88]

You should change the flex pipe now before it cracks as it will cost you more time and money when you have to remove and refit it again later.

Also check that the O2 sensor hole is straight when the header is sitting upright, a few of these headers have been off and have had to be rewelded correctly.

Good luck and and have fun.

[Pumped]

Ive had the Topspeed SS Headers on my car for quite a while now, didnt change the flex pipe.
Ive had no issues with them, felt a bit of a top end gain when i put them on.
At first i wasn't a fan of the hissing noise but now i dont even notice it :)

[EUR003act]

Im assuming by the way each of the 4 pipes combine together that this is due to the cyclinder firing order. 1and 4 2 and 3. Im guessing this is to keep the extractors filled evenly and consistently. I wonder if the stock header does this?


stock headers just go 4-1.... they all just kinda mince into a single pipe right up the top...

i ordered my TODA headers like 4-5 weeks ago... paid for them 2 weeks ago... im still waiting for a reply from them....

[sodaz]

stock headers just go 4-1.... they all just kinda mince into a single pipe right up the top...

i ordered my TODA headers like 4-5 weeks ago... paid for them 2 weeks ago... im still waiting for a reply from them....

The stock headers are actually 4-2-1. There a very small 2 section in the middle with a partition.

Why don't you just give Adrian from Toda a call?

[Suntzu]

stock headers just go 4-1.... they all just kinda mince into a single pipe right up the top...

i ordered my TODA headers like 4-5 weeks ago... paid for them 2 weeks ago... im still waiting for a reply from them....

When did you win the lottery? Hows about a loan?:eek:

The FUJITA CAI has arrived...sweet..Time to dyno

" The circle is complete" err it will be when i get the Jtune flash I've ordered lol :D

[Pumped]

Damn that came fast!
Nice!

[EUR003act]

The stock headers are actually 4-2-1. There a very small 2 section in the middle with a partition.

Why don't you just give Adrian from Toda a call?

from what i could see theyre straight 4 to 1.... if theyre 4-2-1 its a very very small 2 section!!! its already 1pipe before it even gets halfway down the engine block!!!

and yes ive called Adrian... they keep saying theyll email me or call me with details... but still nothing :(

[Suntzu]

Ordered Fujita and Header last Friday arvo from ebay, two different sellers.
Paypal paid immediate. Got headers TUESDAY got FUJITA TODAY. F**k that's awesome from the USA. Especially at 89cents in the dollar.

Piccy:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8079/fujitabm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cant wait to make a lot of unnecessary and uncalled for excessive noise in my neighbourhood. The cool thing is my cars a total sleeper except for the rims and lowered Tein SS suspension.

Remember: Its not about the horsepower, its about the PERCEIVED horsepower from the EXTRA noise. That's why you car is faster with the windows down. Ask any Pulsar+MiloTin (TM) driver....

EUR003act (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/member.php?u=15324) whats Pulfords like in arranging Dynoage? Im only 1 click from their shop.:)

PS: Am I supposed to drink that NOS or pour it in the fuel tank? :/

[EUR003act]

hehe hell yeah!! intake sounds SSOOOOOOOOOO SEXY with the windows down....

i cant wait till i get my headers, pulleys and flywheel... its gonna be sweet :D

[BusterSonic12]

what's the nos can??

[sodaz]

what's the nos can??

Probably octane booster.

[Suntzu]

Now im tossing up about the Dyno tune.

Ive got these parts to fit

Topspeed Header
Fujita CAI

and soon

Mild Jtune reflash.

Should I get a DYNO based stock first (1)
Then fit header and CAI and second DYNO (2)
Then Jtune reflash and last DYNO (3)

Or am i wasting my money?

Anyone know a good place in canberra with a dyno?

[EUR003act]

Now im tossing up about the Dyno tune.

Ive got these parts to fit

Topspeed Header
Fujita CAI

and soon

Mild Jtune reflash.

Should I get a DYNO based stock first (1)
Then fit header and CAI and second DYNO (2)
Then Jtune reflash and last DYNO (3)

Or am i wasting my money?

Anyone know a good place in canberra with a dyno?

get all three dynos done, before, mid, and final! that way you can compare the mods :) if anything atleast get before (stock) and final (after everything done).

i went to Pulford Race Engines in Mitchell...

[Merlin086]

Just thought I'd post up a cpl of pics of how to adjust the rear Tein SS and how to access the cavity, someone else was asking me on the weekend at a meet.

First is a pic of a access hole I drilled behind the seat which is only visible with the seat in the open position. I'll get a couple of rubber caps one day.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7788/adjustmenthf3.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adjustmenthf3.jpg)

Here's a pic of how to remove the side panels next to the seat to access the shocks and line up for a hole to drill thru for adjustment as above.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1268/squabtb6.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=squabtb6.jpg)

[ENVSSS]

I just didn't screw the side panels back in after install the coilovers. They can easy lift off after opening the seat backs and fit back on. They do not move once the seat backs are locked in position. You can easily adjust the dampers this way. Just an alternative to drilling holes.

[Suntzu]

Yep. i did this. I have my bolsters in unscrewed for easy adjustment.

By the way I set from front Tein shocks to 14/16 so nearly full stiff and the rears to 10/16. So its pretty firm but has freakishly good handling.

I might go 12/16 Front and 8/16 rear for long term.

On other news my baseline dyno was a DISASTER. See this thread http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1392737#post1392737

86.5KW FTW!!:thumbdwn::confused:

Anyways looks like it was my inexperience contributing to this. Total waste of a baseline dyno.So bugger it im installing the Intake and Header this weekend. Then a new Dyno.

So I fully expect a 50kw gain on the next Dyno!

[aaronng]

I love my EDFC... but then again, I need it as the damper always needs adjustment depending on who is in the car. :)

[EUR003act]

I love my EDFC... but then again, I need it as the damper always needs adjustment depending on who is in the car. :)

damn all you and your money... :p

[Suntzu]

HOLY MUTHER! :eek::eek:

I just installed the Fujita Intake and the SS Headers.

I must have 100 more kW as it sounds like I got a f**ken turbo under the bonnet.:p I think I sucked up a terrier and some small children as I drove past, such is the force of my intake suck PowA!:angel:

Jesus thats some serious cop attracting donut noise!:cool:

Its totally sweet when I hit vtec in 2nd or 3rd, you can hear it engage very clearly. You cant talk or have a conversation and be heard but you can here the vtec kick in like a mutherF.

On a serious note it does seem to have a fair bit more squirt up in the top half of the rev range. But is hard to say cause more noise sounds like more power to me and most other people.

Its a bit loud for my liking. Normally if I gave it a little bit at the lights and no one would even know, but now I'd get pulled up by any copper within 100 metres for sure. So that sucks. But it is a very nice and tough sound.

Ill see how it goes. 2 dyno results soon!:thumbsup:

PS: The install was fine. I used all the internet guides and my Bro In Law is a champ on the spanners! No real hiss or issues with the flex pipe on the Topspeed headers as yet.
The Fujita CAI install was very fast. Probably 40 minutes from start to finish. He nailed both those tough 10mm bolts on the resonator with ease. I also opened up the plastic fog cover for some cool Ram Air Intake Action (TM)

[yfin]

^^ you just described exactly why I never swapped from the Comptech Icebox - CAI is so damn loud it is ridiculous.

[Lukey13]

^^^^ I think that confirms my decision to purchase the Comptech Icebox rather than the Jtune CAI. I don't want to lose the stealth factor... I think the Icebox and Hondata mild reflash will be perfect for my needs.

[sodaz]

^^ you just described exactly why I never swapped from the Comptech Icebox - CAI is so damn loud it is ridiculous.

Yep all CAIs/SRIs are very loud when you give it some stick and attract a lot of unwanted attention. I like the stealthy factor of airbox style intakes more and they are also more responsive down low to mid which is great for daily driving.

[aaronng]

damn all you and your money... :p

It came with my coils that I bought used.

[aaronng]

I just installed the Fujita Intake and the SS Headers.

Could I get a link (ebay or shop) for the place where you bought the SS headers from?

[Suntzu]

I got them from http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AAU%3A11&viewitem=&item=300155866021

It arrived in 5 days from Texas! Fantastic.

I do find the Fujita too loud but its great fun and very tough sounding. see how we go in the long run...

[EUR003act]

if you're worried about the loudness, just dont use WOT... problem solved :D

[akina]

Everyone is different with the loudness...

I love the sound :D

[aaronng]

Thanks suntzu! Did you notice any hissing or buzzing sound when accelerating?

[Suntzu]

I cant tell over the FulLy SiK SucK SounD bY FuJitA (TM) :wave:

Seriously though, theres not much of a hiss. The Topspeed ss header fitted perfect and didnt seem stressed so I did not get the flex replaced. We will see how it goes. Doesnt worry me cause its a 20 min job to remove that part of the header to get it fixed.

I checked it for leaks and seems ok. Two weeks of driving should sort it out then I'll retighten the bolts and check again.

Im keen to get a new DYNO but have no idea where in canberra given my last dyno disaster.

[badthing]

Yea CAI is definitely loud. I've got an Injen with K&N filter & I've set off car alarms several times going WOT. Have you noticed the VTEC transition to high-cam is also much clearer?

[Suntzu]

Im getting used to the Fujita CAI. As long as youre not WOT all the time its fine. But when you to..believe me othere cars KNOW your coming through. Its like an agry animal is unleash and begging to eat someone. :)

I dont know if its the CAI or the Headers or both but I can hear VTEC so clearly now. Its a bloody fantastic sound. A real mechanical switching noise. It sounds really efficient and powerful.

When I get Jtune and the VTEC is 5000 rpm then its going to be that much sweeter.

I can feel a bit more low down torque at approx 2000-4000rpm and a bit more power at about 5000-7000rpm. Its noticeable, a modest improvement, not a great one. At a guess im calling 10-12kw at the fly. Im hoping with Jtune it will be a very nice combination on a budget!

[r-r-redEuro]

140kw atw should be perfect for everyday drive =) and very nice on the mods, im keen in getting an intake and pair of headers as well. reading your post makes me psych about it and its driving me crazzyyyyyy lol.

[Suntzu]

If you drove my car you would be a happy camper. Its brings joy every time I hit Vtec!!!

[racerwannabe]

Hi Suntzu, i'm also thinking about installing your headers. Do you think it is a worthwhile mod and have you had any issues with it so far? Thanks.

[Suntzu]

No issues so far. Fitted perfect. No movement or need to retighten. Tiny hiss, but i like it. Hardly hear it over the intake. Its a win for the money.

[Suntzu]

Ok,

Minor update.

I have exchanged the Fujita CAi for the Comptech IceBox.

It is MUCH quieter, not as tough sounding but it sounds decent. Its not a cop magnet any more. ( not that ive ever been pulled over, i havent, ever) I do miss the vtec roar at 5000rpm but it less noticeable anyway now I have the jtune flash.

Im installing a K&N filter today as I think the stock filter is a bit arse.

I have also installed a Magnaflow 300 cell ceramic cat, dunno what size but it matches my header. Initially it didn't do much but after a hundred Kays or so seems to be giving me a bit of extra torque done low.

This sounds like crazy talk by my cars pretty torquey now!

I think the icebox is torqueyer than the the fujita but the fujita has more power at 6000rpm. Not much more and I dont spend a huge amount of time at 6 grand anyways :)

So maybe the combo of Comptech Icebox and Cat has added torque down low more than expected.

Definitely that with the Jtune and header makes the car more drivable. This is good and kind of the opposite of a lot of honda tuning which aims for peak dyno power.

Now ive almost decided on an exhaust.

A local aussie guy on ebay selling the HKS SILENT HI POWER for $700 + $130 ship new. What a great deal.

It s a bit of a waste of money cause i dont expect power but i want a tougher sound, but not too loud.

This will probably complete my performance mods.

I do have the blackout tape, SS doorsills and my free Heat shield gasket to install..one day!

I've done all this stuff on the cheap as you guys now but its worked out good.

I reckon i will hold the record for KW per dollar but i need a dyno to do that and im waiting till the exhaust is fitted. Will take a while.

Anyways that completes my update. Post any comments but keep it on track please.

[yahyah]

Where did u get you front grill from??
Does it come pre painted?

it looks much better than the original grill!!

[Mr_will]

lol you said in your dyno thread that you are going to do 'a heap of mods to the engine'...so far you have intake, headers and cat. not exactly a 'heap'

[Suntzu]

What could i do to you please you Will? I mean i don't want to disappoint , after all im only doing it for your satisfaction.:thumbdwn:

I meant it when I said keep this thread on track. Post relevant useful comments or don't post. Its not complicated.

I am considering lightened flywheel and a mild clutch but my clutch isnt due and i want to do both at the same time. Not sure of the install cost either.

Id love cams and a tune but i already have Jtune mild Flash and regardless theres not a lot of decent tuning options available. That and the fact I haven't seen any decent posts on cams and dyno gains.

I pretty happy with the mods Ive done to be hones. It might not fit wills idea of a "heap" whatever thats means but ive had a lot of fun doing it bit by bit and im sure theres more to come..

[Crapdaz]

heap of mods = heap of cash = you being poorer.

If i had inifinite money, i'd do inifinite mods but dang its soo expensive.
nice to know that you feel it makes a difference.

Can't wait to put my UR pulleys in.

[Razool]

Hey Suntzu, where do you get your work done? In Canberra?

[Suntzu]

I did most of it myself with my Bro In Law. Only the CAT was done in a shop. That part of the fun doing it yourself if you can!

[hisoka]

get some form of lip/body kit and a new CF bonnet and make it a real j style car lol.

do the manual transmission ones come with K20??..are the manual ones more sportier is what iam asking lol

cause in japan the CL7 come with K20A so if you have this engine it will be easier to get parts from japan that will fit.

I currently have a accord euro and all i got it a lip kit and a grill but it looks pretty clean and stock

[Darkii_]

No, manual still have the k24 in them lol

[Razool]

I did most of it myself with my Bro In Law. Only the CAT was done in a shop. That part of the fun doing it yourself if you can!

Know where to get good, relatively cheap work done in Canberra?

[Suntzu]

get some form of lip/body kit and a new CF bonnet and make it a real j style car lol.

do the manual transmission ones come with K20??..are the manual ones more sportier is what iam asking lol

cause in japan the CL7 come with K20A so if you have this engine it will be easier to get parts from japan that will fit.

I currently have a accord euro and all i got it a lip kit and a grill but it looks pretty clean and stock


LOL that some crazy ass talk man! Be nice if we had the K20 tho, love the sounds but i do like the extra torque of the K24.

Id love a CF bonnet but i would paint it red like the rest of my car, too try-hard having a black bonnet in a honda!

Love to do a sensible weight reduction....

[Bo0o0ost]

Ive got a HKS Silent Hi Power on my euro and its just perfect.
The twin mufflers look awesome and it doesnt cheapen the car with a loud exhaust note. Just perfect..

[Crapdaz]

Ive got a HKS Silent Hi Power on my euro and its just perfect.
The twin mufflers look awesome and it doesnt cheapen the car with a loud exhaust note. Just perfect..

but if you havent changed headers or cat(hi flow) loudness wont be an issue.

[Suntzu]

I have, as per the posts on the previous page.

I think im definitely going with the HKS silent power. Shouldn't be too loud from what I've heard with a header and hi flow cats. Theres some decent clips on you tube.

I find the fujibso to be too quiet and expensive and the others too loud. That's why I've settled on the HKS Silent Power. Not to mention the very good pricing...

I have a aguy on ebay sellign them cheap and I just emailed the aussie HKS distro www.justjap.com to see what they can do...

[mr747]

I have, as per the posts on the previous page.

I think im definitely going with the HKS silent power. Shouldn't be too loud from what I've heard with a header and hi flow cats. Theres some decent clips on you tube.

I find the fujibso to be too quiet and expensive and the others too loud. That's why I've settled on the HKS Silent Power. Not to mention the very good pricing...

I have a aguy on ebay sellign them cheap and I just emailed the aussie HKS distro www.justjap.com to see what they can do...
pm me the prices and we will get 2 maybe get it a bit cheaper im also looking for one

[hooyn]

pm me the prices and we will get 2 maybe get it a bit cheaper im also looking for one

me 3 im also very interested

[power_of_dreams]

I could only find 1 video on youtube, and that was an average one. Anybody got links?

[Bo0o0ost]

Im not too concerned with loudness anymore because JDM style here i come! :D
Sorry for hijacking your thread dude.
Loving this buildup!
Keep an eye out for mine very soon :D

[Suntzu]

cheers

So how do you find your HKS Silent power in day to day usage? Not too loud? Tough sounding? Any gains that were noticeable?

i look forward to your mod thread. cheers

[EUR003act]

LOL that some crazy ass talk man! Be nice if we had the K20 tho, love the sounds but i do like the extra torque of the K24.

Id love a CF bonnet but i would paint it red like the rest of my car, too try-hard having a black bonnet in a honda!

Love to do a sensible weight reduction....

group buy!

im in on that... boot aswell :D

[Suntzu]

Hmm, now im thinking Lightweight flywheel and decent clutch would be better bang for buck can the hks exhaust.

Doing some research as well on it, cheap to buy clutch and flywheel not sure on what my honda dealer charges to fit....any experiences?

Then I got on this tangent

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-JDM-Helical-LSD-02-06-Acura-RSX-Type-S-K20A-DC5-EP3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33731QQihZ024QQitem Z370051683984QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-HELICAL-LSD-DIFFERENTIAL-02-06-ACURA-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33601QQihZ024QQitem Z370051943814QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

Obx is a shit brand though i believe. interesting idea though for an LSD...

LSD + racing Flywheel = WiNnA :wave:

I would reckon.

EDIT: This is a BARGAIN http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-RACING-FLYWHEEL-02-06-RSX-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33730QQihZ007QQitem Z170219906279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

and this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160240638923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us with Exedy

dunno about F1 racing brand.

Is 10.5 lbs light enough over stock?

[Bo0o0ost]

During day to day driving it is excellent.
In the lower revs its is loud but as you go through the rev range it is not bad at all.

When on the motorway for example if you leave it on cruise the exhaust is silent

When you hit the A pedal however you will definately hear it.

It sounds very tough, better still, instead of me describing it i will throw it up on youtube tonight for everyone


cheers

So how do you find your HKS Silent power in day to day usage? Not too loud? Tough sounding? Any gains that were noticeable?

i look forward to your mod thread. cheers

[enkay]

sweet as, look forward to seein it lol

[Crapdaz]

man, can't wait to hear it, i
still need to record what my car sounds like, i have no idea as im always driving it.

[r-r-redEuro]

good to see a bunch of euro owners looking at the HKS exhaust now =D

[Suntzu]

I having a lot of trouble finding anyone who sells this at a decent price. Theres an NZ ebay guy around the $850 delivered mark but hes not getting stock for 8 weeks.
I cant justify the $1200+ for the local guys. Too much dough for a non performance mod.

Im leaning towards Exedy lightened flywheel and stage 1 clutch instead at this stage.

[bentusi123]

o~~~~~yeah~~~~~thats the face im talking about.
working~working~
my next target!!!!

[Suntzu]

OK,

My 300 Cell Magnaflow Cat has been in for a few weeks and is now working well.

Initially i hardly noticed it but now the car has DEFINITELY got more Torque from 1500-5000 rpm. I dont notice it as much above 5000rpm but that probably the vtec kicking in anyway.

My car feels VERY torquey and tractable around town. Very nice cost effective mod indeed. I'd say this does more than cat back but i dont have cat back so i really dont know.

Skunk2 Gear knob installed. Helps with the shift and looks good. A bit cold to touch when you first take off in the morning though. Cost about $100 landed.

Changed my Comptech Icebox Filter to a K&N filter. Did the foam insert mod. Now the icebox is about 10% louder than with the comptech filter. Sounds a bit tougher, its nice actually and no where is as loud as the old fujita...

All good cost effective mods.

I cant decide if im doing HKS Silent Power Cat back or Lightened flywheel and sport clutch. Im leaning towards the exhaust even though there's not much performance in it because the install costs of the clutch are a bitch...

cheers

russ

[felixd]

Hi suntzu just wondering where did u buy ur headers from if from ebay u reckon u can gimme link :) thx man its hard to find any headers for this car in melbourne !!! thx man ur car looks HOT !!!!!

[Suntzu]

Thanks for the comments.

Its a TOPSPEED Stainless Steel header. 12 months and going strong. Especially since I did the cat. My car really pulls like a mutherf*ker now.

Fortunately for you I NEVER delete email. i back that shit up.

heres the exact guy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura-TSX-04-05-Exhaust-Header-Headers-T304-Stainless_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ020 QQitemZ300228297252QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

i dont know if its the same header I go, but it looks the same, is the same price and is the same ebayer.

All you need to do is ask about shipping and it MUST HAVE TOPSPEED on the box ( NOT OBX, OBX=Shit)


Having trouble getting the HKS SILENT power, local proper distributor wants $1580 landed. Thats some BS for for a 2 kw increase. Im out for now.

[felixd]

oh thx very much :) cheers mate

[Crapdaz]

Thanks for the comments.

Its a TOPSPEED Stainless Steel header. 12 months and going strong. Especially since I did the cat. My car really pulls like a mutherf*ker now.

Fortunately for you I NEVER delete email. i back that shit up.

heres the exact guy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura-TSX-04-05-Exhaust-Header-Headers-T304-Stainless_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33631QQihZ020 QQitemZ300228297252QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

i dont know if its the same header I go, but it looks the same, is the same price and is the same ebayer.

All you need to do is ask about shipping and it MUST HAVE TOPSPEED on the box ( NOT OBX, OBX=Shit)


Having trouble getting the HKS SILENT power, local proper distributor wants $1580 landed. Thats some BS for for a 2 kw increase. Im out for now.

HKS SILENT POWER = DUAL OUTLET?

5zigen pro racer dual outlet is still $1850 os i got single outlet cause it was cheaper and to look different.

[BusterSonic12]

HKS SILENT POWER = DUAL OUTLET?

5zigen pro racer dual outlet is still $1850 os i got single outlet cause it was cheaper and to look different.

yep, it is dual outlet :thumbsup:

[aaronng]

Skunk2 Gear knob installed. Helps with the shift and looks good. A bit cold to touch when you first take off in the morning though. Cost about $100 landed.

Damn, the Skunk2 knob was going for $80 locally just last year! Back then there was a lot of stock, and even a special anniversary edition.

[felixd]

just ordered my header from http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura-TSX-04-05-Exhaust-Header-Headers-T304-Stainless_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122QQ categoryZ33631QQihZ020QQitemZ300228297252QQrdZ1QQs spagenameZWD2V
special price for $170 USD + $120 USD shipping :)
cant wait for it to arrive to me YAY !!! oh with your cat where did u buy it mate cant find 300 cell cat from ebay when u install the cat did u have to cut off ur old one and weld the new one in or u custome made new pipe and weld it on cuz i wanna copy something like RT cat u know wat i mean :)

[Suntzu]

I got the local exhaust place to fit it as a package. Was supposed to be a 300 cell Magnaflow Metal Cat but the guy reckoned he couldn't fit the o2 probe in the metal one so I got the ceramic 300 cell cat. Flow rates the same. feels like a decent improvement over the 900 cell cat thats stock. Cost me $495 all up which was too much. I reckon the peformance gain is similar to a header though subjectively.


Damn, the Skunk2 knob was going for $80 locally just last year! Back then there was a lot of stock, and even a special anniversary edition.

Sorry my bad, it was $65 USD landed so about $75. All good.

Felixd: That link doesnt work for me but as long as you did what i said you will be sweet. I fitted the header myself. Awesome bang for buck mod with an intake. Have fun.

[Crapdaz]

$495 farout more expensive than the RT cat and i thought the RT was robbing me. =P ah wells glad to know it runs like a B#$% it is.

Do you find it louder in exhaust noise?

[Suntzu]

No louder. Not really at all. It was fitted as well so theres an expense there. I didnt actually do anything..

I cant hear it over the intake and header. I reckon if i get an exhaust I will hear it. So ive read anyways.

[felixd]

so the header is easy to install ? how long does it take u to do it ? what about tightening the bolts up did u use torque setting or ? and did u use some of the gasket paste?

[aaronng]

so the header is easy to install ? how long does it take u to do it ? what about tightening the bolts up did u use torque setting or ? and did u use some of the gasket paste?

Get the liquid gasket! THe gaskets that come with the header is very poor.

[felixd]

is h&R lowering springs any good for accord euro ?

[Suntzu]

Since I have the Jtune mild reflash wich is optimised for 98ron fuel . I thought, hey would it be able to handle higher compression in the head?

The K20a uses a 11.5 compresison ratio.

The K24A in the Euro is a 10.5. Now i have the reflash i reckon it can handle a little more.

I saw this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/k20-k24-k20a-rsx-tsx-DHR-High-Compression-head-gasket_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1 262QQcategoryZ33665QQihZ024QQitemZ370042206008

I thnik i means I can raise my compression by 0.3.

Should be ok since i have the reflash and only 98ron do you think?
What sort of gains might be reasonable expected?

[EUR003act]

i was looking at that gasket for my build...

i havent heard of the brand before, so i asked a few of the tsx guys, no responses from them about the brand :( so im not sure if theyre any good or not...

power wise i dont think it'd be worth it for you, the gains wouldnt be that high, and its very very expensive to have your cylinder head removed to fit the new gasket... im talking about 4-5hours labour ($90 an hour labour) depending where you go...

[Suntzu]

DYNO TIME!

Im getting my dyno done today at 3.30pm same place as Justins ( euroact13) got his done.

Any tips I should know? Fourth gear right? Im gettign 4 runs. Should i try any other gears. Turn vsa off of course.

My last dyno was 86kw and a friggin disaster. i hope this ones done right.

suggestions?

[Crapdaz]

you doing it yourself or getting the guy to ?

[Suntzu]

Im assuming they will do it. Im hoping so.

[Crapdaz]

goodluck mate, keep us posted and how much is the guy charging?
and can you pm who the guy is maybe i'll visit canberra sometime and go and get a dyno done if the dyno day in sydney doesnt come soon.

[aaronng]

Turn off VSA, turn off A/C and make sure your engine is warmed up before you run.

[EUR003act]

goodluck mate, keep us posted and how much is the guy charging?
and can you pm who the guy is maybe i'll visit canberra sometime and go and get a dyno done if the dyno day in sydney doesnt come soon.

hehe ill arrange a canberra dyno day once my baby girl is running :p

all honda's welcome!!!

UPDATE: Rus (suntzu) is getting the dyno to use the same parameters as the day when i ran... hehe should be a good comparison! :D

[JunYu]

it's 5:30 now i want results!! :)))))

[felixd]

its 6 o clock now :) .........................................

[EUR003act]

hehehe patience boys patience... he's just cooking dinner :p lol

i know the result :D but i wont steal his thunder! i actually really want to see the dyno sheet and compare with mine :)

:thumbsup: CONGRATS RUS! :D

second fastest euro in Canberra lol

[Suntzu]

Soon soon im cooking a curry. It take time. Also I want to write it up properly. Might make a dedicated thread...

[EUR003act]

Soon soon im cooking a curry. It take time. Also I want to write it up properly. Might make a dedicated thread...
hehe you and i need to go up to sydney for one... i still maintain that ultimate tunes dyno reads lower than everywhere else... we'd have atelast another 10kw's! :p lol


use this one:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70781&page=2

:D

[Euro08Jaz]

where do you guys get your dyno done? i might come and do a stock dyno for compassions sake.

[JunYu]

hm, my guess is 120kw atw!

[Euro08Jaz]

lol why did you change your guess? who else is sitting on this forum waiting?

[Crapdaz]

+/-125kw my estimate.

[EUR003act]

where do you guys get your dyno done? i might come and do a stock dyno for compassions sake.

BEST IDEA EVER!!!

Ultimate Tunes in phillip...

[JunYu]

are you finished eating yet? lol

[EUR003act]

are you finished eating yet? lol

dyno result here :)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70781&page=2

[Suntzu]

See the proper Dyno thread but it was 118kwatw and 188nm. I was hoping for more but this dyno reads reliably not optimistically so ive been told. Im told by yours truly above that a stock euro got 102kwatw on the same dyno. So a approx 16kw gain isnt bad. Feels like more when you drive it cause the mid range is fatter in my car. Not peaky as you might expect.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4448/dyno118kwuq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4448/dyno118kwuq3.42df30dbdf.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=148&i=dyno118kwuq3.jpg)

[Suntzu]

Heres an idea. Only $249 USD plus unknown ship. I have emailed them about shipping..

http://bmw325racing.50megs.com/TSXEXHAUT.jpg

Very nicely priced exhaust http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TSUDO-04-07-ACURA-TSX-CATBACK-EXHAUST-DUAL_W0QQitemZ290254747173QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 290254747173&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A3|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TSUDO-04-07-ACURA-TSX-CATBACK-EXHAUST-DUAL_W0QQitemZ290254747173QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 290254747173&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

and
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05-06-07-08-Acura-TSX-TSUDO-70mm-N1-Catback-Exhaust_W0QQitemZ220273181519QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem220273181519&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A3|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05-06-07-08-Acura-TSX-TSUDO-70mm-N1-Catback-Exhaust_W0QQitemZ220273181519QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem220273181519&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)

the price is right! Apparently the same as skunk2 but I dont want it too loud.

Anyone heard of this exhaust?

or

[EUR003act]

looks nice... but i dont like canon exhausts... too rice boy for me...

try this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CompTech-Acura-2004-2007-TSX-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1 116QQitemZ140244075890

however, shipping to aus is very pricey for something like that anywhere between $400-1000 :(

[Suntzu]

Love to get a local custom exhaust but if they **** it up and its a loud fart machine id be pissed as.

[EUR003act]

Love to get a local custom exhaust but if they **** it up and its a loud fart machine id be pissed as.

exactly why i wont go custom... yeah theyre cheaper... but its soooooo hard to get a small capacity high revving engine to sound tough...

if you do it wrong, it just makes people laugh at you...

[Pumped]

That exhaust looks like it'd be LOUD

[aaronng]

exactly why i wont go custom... yeah theyre cheaper... but its soooooo hard to get a small capacity high revving engine to sound tough...

if you do it wrong, it just makes people laugh at you...
Or keep it stock? haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJiFuYCnLA

[felixd]

i asked tsudo exhaust the shipping to australia will be $500+ :( thats y change mind

[EUR003act]

hehehe speaking of exhausts...

heres one i purchased earlier :p

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2155Large.jpg

[aaronng]

hehehe speaking of exhausts...

heres one i purchased earlier :p

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/eur003/DSCF2155Large.jpg

Cooooomptechhhhhh! Put up video clips when you get that installed, please! :p

[EUR003act]

Cooooomptechhhhhh! Put up video clips when you get that installed, please! :p

hahaha i think i had that exact same reaction when it arrived today lol :p

damn you know euro's way to well lol naming parts by sight!

hehehe yeah ill probably install it next week some time, im taking it in to my mate Eric @ custom fabrications to die-grind out the flange at the cat. converter end... its only a 51mm opening when the rest of the piping is 60mm... im guessing its because it was designed to mate with the smaller stock flange, but my TODA test pipe (with metal cat.) has 60mm flange :D

lol then ill post videos :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[enkay]

wow looks good!
cant wait for vids hehe

[Suntzu]

Man thats a sweet loking exhaust. Whats it sound like? Expensive?

What did you guys think of my dyno result?

[aaronng]

Man thats a sweet loking exhaust. Whats it sound like? Expensive?

What did you guys think of my dyno result?

Can only compare it to Eur003act's dyno. Can't compare it to mine. :(
Pretty good A/F ratios though. 13:1 is the usual guideline for safe tuning.

[BusterSonic12]

comptech's back into business now?

[enkay]

have been for a while they go under ct engineering now

http://www.ct-engineering.com/

[Suntzu]

Back to other mods I can land this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170223648302&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123

For $762 landed Plus $583 installed at ultimate tune. So $1345 for a Exedy Stage 1 plus HF02 8.9lb flywheel.!

What you reckon Aarron?

[aaronng]

Damn, $583 for install is very cheap!

[Suntzu]

So aarron now you have your flywheel and clutch for a bit can you comment on day to day driveability?

Im going to be doing the commute after 8 years of working from home.

Any issue in traffic?

[aaronng]

So aarron now you have your flywheel and clutch for a bit can you comment on day to day driveability?

Im going to be doing the commute after 8 years of working from home.

Any issue in traffic?

No issues. I like it. Just make sure you use a bit more throttle to get off the line, otherwise the revs drop when you release the clutch. No problem with going uphill (actually better than stock flywheel). Revs drop quicker when I clutch in, so it matches my shifting style. No need to wait for the revs to drop anymore. :thumbsup:

[Crapdaz]

Mr suntzu,

quick Q 4 U.
you know how you changed your CAT right, did you find your exhaust fumes smell a bit more? or still pretty much the same.

[Suntzu]

No smell. None. Check the fitting before you become even more tarded! Lol

Now EuroACT talking me in RBC instead of flywheel...me confused

[Crapdaz]

nah, i think it's cause my CAT is 200cell hence why it stinks more.
but mainly during the morning when i first start car when cold.

DO IT, after i pay parents back for hosp bill i'll get my fly + clutch.

[EUR003act]

haha i didnt say dont get flywheel and clutch ;) hahaha

get both! lol i wanna get TODA flywheel :) and 4.7 FD... mmmmmmm launching

[Suntzu]

Still looking at options...

Can you tell me if a stock RBC will fit straight on our cars? And if i get a bigger throttle boddy does the RBC need to be modified then?

Heres a good RBC - Ported out to 65MM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORTED-RBC-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-ACURA-HONDA-K20-K20A2-K24_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36474QQihZ018QQitem Z280260078787QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

And heres a another one pre-modified for a k20:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CvcSi-RBC-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-4-DC5-RSX-JDM-ITR-EP3-CTR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ36474QQihZ004QQitemZ140260353162

Do I need to avoide the premodified ones? Can you see any advantage paying the extra $100 for the ported RBC if using a stock throttle body?

And lastly will my Icebox fit the RBC or do i need a custom intake?

Thanks guys.

[EUR003act]

RBC is direct bolt on... all you need to do is tap in a 4mm nipple for the vacuum line :)

as for using J32 throttle body, the RBC or RBB (which ever your using) will require some welding (idle bypass valve) and the TB will require a MAP sensor hole to be filled...

all easy mods...

[Suntzu]

Cool so the "nipple job: LOL is pretty straight forward. Might have a looky when i have a squiz at your front lip.

You think the ported RBC as per my link is worth the extra $. looks nice.

[EUR003act]

Cool so the "nipple job: LOL is pretty straight forward. Might have a looky when i have a squiz at your front lip.

You think the ported RBC as per my link is worth the extra $. looks nice.

ill port you RBC for you to fit the J32A3 tb perfectly! :D

call me tomorrow or sunday about coming to see the lip :thumbsup:

[Suntzu]

The ebay dude just got back to me. hes been really helpful.

He says: ( when i told him ihave drive by wire K24a)

"In that case, you won't need the throttle body adapter, you won't need the modification for going onto a K20 head, you won't need the extra Gasket between the adapter and the throttle cable throttle body, you won't need the replacement vacuum line since you already have the correct one, and you won't need the hardware to bolt the adapter on. Looks like all you need is:

RBC manifold unmodified
Extra Gasket between your throttlebody and manifold incase yours rips when removing

I can do $200 plus shipping for what you need.

Shipping will be a bit less with the lower weight:
$73 for 6-10 day Priority Mail International
and
$88 for 5 day Express Mail International "

Does that sound alrgith to you? Thats about $300 or so landed. And I just need to then do the nipple mod yeah?

Not worth porting if i dont have the Bigger throttle body yet you reckon????

Might take you up on that offer justin! Cheers mate

[EUR003act]

DOOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIITTTTT!!

lol that sounds like the exact same guy i got mine off! lol he normally mods them to fit integras... top bloke, spoke to him a few times, he knows alot about k-series...

yeah thats good price, about the same as mine costed i think. yeah only mod youll need is the nipple (i can do for you) and two bolts for the TB (i can sell you those :p) lol

[Suntzu]

Cool. So ill get this. And you will kindly help me with the nipple engagement and ill buy a few parts off ya.

Not worth porting the unit until I pony up for the throttle body yes?

Im guessing the porting is just to make the 66mm TB fit a 60mm intake hole in the RBC?

[EUR003act]

[QUOTE=Suntzu;1872681]Cool. So ill get this. And you will kindly help me with the nipple engagement and ill buy a few parts off ya.

Not worth porting the unit until I pony up for the throttle body yes?

Im guessing the porting is just to make the 66mm TB fit a 60mm intake hole in the RBC?[/QUOTE

correctomundo! except i think RBC is 62mm (K20A uses 62mm TB?)... either way 60 or 62, yes we'll port out to 66mm after you get J32A3 so we can port match them perfectly! no lips, no gaps, just smooth aluminium! :D

[EuroAccord13]

Less talk and BUY THE RBC MANIFOLD!!!

Have you heard me and Justin complain negatively on iy yet? :D :D :D

[Suntzu]

Ok. Im on it. Might get the larger TB while im at it and do the lot..

[EUR003act]

Ok. Im on it. Might get the larger TB while im at it and do the lot..

theres a J32A3 throttle body on ebay for US$100... same guy i brought mine off... get the one for +2004 model acrura TL...

[Suntzu]

Ebay RBC guy just got back to me again. i asked if he has the Larger TL04+ throttle Body

He replies:

"Sorry, I don't carry throttlebody because they haven't proven to do anything for anyone under 260whp. Yes, that's with porting the RBC to match.

I do have the RBC plastic cover, new from Honda I paid $61 for it, just for my RBC customers.

Let me know when you're ready.

Thanks,
Daniel"

So for the $280 USD i might just get that RBC and worry about the Throttle Body when Ive done Cams and stuff in the future. Make sit a cost effective mod actually.

[EUR003act]

damn if u get that engine cover for $61 ull be laughing!

mine ended up costing nearly as much as my RBC! :(

[Suntzu]

Really is $61 US cheap for the cover?

In that case ill order the RBC plus cover. Keep my existing TB for now. Might need you to show me how to do th npple.

Im guessing drill int he right spot and fit the nipple. Where do you buy the nipple from?

You reckon the comptech icebox will reach the new TB position or is it moved a lot?

[Crapdaz]

Really is $61 US cheap for the cover?

In that case ill order the RBC plus cover. Keep my existing TB for now. Might need you to show me how to do th npple.

Im guessing drill int he right spot and fit the nipple. Where do you buy the nipple from?

You reckon the comptech icebox will reach the new TB position or is it moved a lot?

it's higher up.
so if the comptech piping isn't flexible most likely can't use the battery tie down mount. can always fork out the extra money for silicone piping for flexibility.

[enkay]

lol hmm this sounds good haha, maybe my intake will fit better lolol

[Suntzu]

it's higher up.
so if the comptech piping isn't flexible most likely can't use the battery tie down mount. can always fork out the extra money for silicone piping for flexibility.

Thats it I guess. Easily fit new tubing from Comptech exit to Throttle Body.

[Crapdaz]

yups, i am tempted to buy the RBC.... sigh.

[Suntzu]

In the mean time i want to get the P2R Throttle Body Spacer but I see it listed for 2006+ TSX, so will it fit our cars?

You got one haven't you Justin? Wheres a good place to buy?

[Crapdaz]

buy the 06+ Civic SI

the TSX one doesn't come with the rectangular cut out as mentioned in justin's thread, so in result it will cause bouncing revs and leak as there will be a hole you can't block off.

i will take a photo tomorrow and show you.

[Suntzu]

This one http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=72&products_id=1888

You bought the wrong one? Is that why you have one for sale?

[Crapdaz]

yeh thats the right one.

you can see the rectangular cut out.
it stuffed me over cause the site said the TSX/Civic SI was using the same TB spacer.
but they didnt.

make sure you get the P305R/B/G series (letter stands for colour)

Don't get P309R/B/G/s whatever colour <--- 309 is the TSX series.

[Suntzu]

And if later I buy a TL Throttle Body im guessing this wont fit anymore? That would suck.

Im going to do this P2R spacer + Hondata Headshield gasket ( already got one) and throttle body bypass.

Then i revisit RBC.

Wheres the best vendor to buy online you reckon?

[Crapdaz]

Sorry i am not sure about the TL TB, i'll check it out.
The RBC should work fine with the civic SI TB spacer + tb gasket.
P2R stuff you can contact P2r themselves directly (www.powerrevracing.com/store (http://www.powerrevracing.com/store)).

Spacer can be sourced from Ebay. tb gasket from ebay too.
or you can try K20atuned.com <--- if justin doesn't sell me one, i will source my RBC from them.

[EUR003act]

And if later I buy a TL Throttle Body im guessing this wont fit anymore? That would suck.

itll fit TL TB perfectly :D

[EUR003act]

lol hmm this sounds good haha, maybe my intake will fit better lolol

you should be able to mod it to fit... i was able to mod my K&N intake to fit, it just puts more bends for the air to try get past, not optimum for power :(


Thats it I guess. Easily fit new tubing from Comptech exit to Throttle Body.

same as above buddy, ill just have a look and we'll try make up a new elbow or something...


buy the 06+ Civic SI

the TSX one doesn't come with the rectangular cut out as mentioned in justin's thread, so in result it will cause bouncing revs and leak as there will be a hole you can't block off.

i will take a photo tomorrow and show you.


if you dont want to fork out the money for a P309, keep your P305 and once you have modded RBC by me and J32A3 TB, youll be able to use that spacer no problems! (my modded RBC has the idlebypass welded shut)

:angel:

[Crapdaz]

if you dont want to fork out the money for a P309, keep your P305 and once you have modded RBC by me and J32A3 TB, youll be able to use that spacer no problems! (my modded RBC has the idlebypass welded shut)

:angel:

i've got the P309R but when i put it on it leaks cause it doesnt suit the stock TB and IM cause of the gap. If i had the Civic Si one it would work properly, cause the gap would follow through and TB end would block it.

[EUR003act]

i've got the P309R but when i put it on it leaks cause it doesnt suit the stock TB and IM cause of the gap. If i had the Civic Si one it would work properly, cause the gap would follow through and TB end would block it.

sorry got my 9s and 5s mixed up lol

yep.... very true...

but if you intend on using the J32A3 TB, the bypass hole in the RBC is welded up, meaning that you could easily use the P309 and not leak air! problem solved, and u gain power! :D

[Crapdaz]

sorry got my 9s and 5s mixed up lol

yep.... very true...

but if you intend on using the J32A3 TB, the bypass hole in the RBC is welded up, meaning that you could easily use the P309 and not leak air! problem solved, and u gain power! :D

yeh sounds good.
:thumbsup:
might just keep it then

[Suntzu]

itll fit TL TB perfectly :D

Can you explain to a stupid person like me ho that works. So I contacted the Power Rev and they do ship so im ordering.

I fit it to my RBB or maybe the RBC when I get it. Then it goes on my 60mm TB. Now I'm gunna assume the that the hole in the Spacer is 60mm?

So then I fit a 64mm modded TB bought from you and isn't it going to hit the lip of the 60mm spacer? It a 4mm lip around the inside?

Im commiting by the way guys. Im going for RBC, Spacer, TB Gasket, Hondata gasket and TB bypass all at once with Justins help of course. Or as I like to call it "taking J PIS Motorsport"

[Crapdaz]

Can you explain to a stupid person like me ho that works. So I contacted the Power Rev and they do ship so im ordering.

I fit it to my RBB or maybe the RBC when I get it. Then it goes on my 60mm TB. Now I'm gunna assume the that the hole in the Spacer is 60mm?

So then I fit a 64mm modded TB bought from you and isn't it going to hit the lip of the 60mm spacer? It a 4mm lip around the inside?

Im commiting by the way guys. Im going for RBC, Spacer, TB Gasket, Hondata gasket and TB bypass all at once with Justins help of course. Or as I like to call it "taking J PIS Motorsport"

manifold > Tb gasket > tb spacer > stock tb gasket >TB
depending on what model, there will be a lip about 4mm diameter larger, can cause turbulence <--- i think should wait for justin to correct me but.

are you going to get the P2R K24 IM head gasket too?
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/images/P2r&#37;20K24%20Img.jpg

[Suntzu]

Yes I just asked for a shipping quote on the p2r gasket and spacer for Civic si as per your instructions.

I want to make sure i can use the RBC and larger TB in the future with the gasket before i commit as otherwise its not a cost effective mod.

[enkay]

you should be able to mod it to fit... i was able to mod my K&N intake to fit, it just puts more bends for the air to try get past, not optimum for power :(



haha icic, but i got a cl7 intake anyways, so with the rbc is should fit properly like how it would on a cl7? thats what i meant anyways haha

not that it doesnt fit now thou, although comparing it to when installed on a cl7 my one does look like it sits lower

[EUR003act]

haha icic, but i got a cl7 intake anyways, so with the rbc is should fit properly like how it would on a cl7? thats what i meant anyways haha

not that it doesnt fit now thou, although comparing it to when installed on a cl7 my one does look like it sits lower

if you have a CL7 intake thats perfect... the CL9 puts the TB lower and pointing up and back... the RBC (CL7) puts the TB higher pointing more or less straight out the side...

[Suntzu]

Quote from P2R direct:

$79.99 for spacer

$27.00 Shipping

$22.99 for each tb gasket

$34.99 for Intake manifold Gasket

Im getting it. Not the Intake manifold though as I have hondata.

[Crapdaz]

yeh sounds about right.

[Suntzu]

While im buying up what do you reckon about these underdrive pulleys?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ralco-RZ-Underdrive-Pulleys-Acura-RSX-TSX-Accord-02-07_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38656QQihZ021QQitemZ 310080622392QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

any good?

[EUR003act]

While im buying up what do you reckon about these underdrive pulleys?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ralco-RZ-Underdrive-Pulleys-Acura-RSX-TSX-Accord-02-07_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38656QQihZ021QQitemZ 310080622392QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

any good?

they claim 15+ hp gain... either theyre being very generous in their claims... or those pulleys crazy underdrive the system... you dont want the second one for a daily driver...

theyre nice and cheap, but never heard of the brand... dont forget ontop of them tho u have to by new timing belt approx$80-100 and get it installed approx$150-250...

[enkay]

i have the nst pulleys, where it has an overdrive alternater and underdrive crank pulley.
there were dynos on it the tsxclub forums i think, or the other one haha
my car is a daily driver and so far its fine, nothing bad =D
gains are good too, but i installed my header shortly after so i kinda forget how it was

link to thread (http://tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16224)

[Crapdaz]

those RZ are the alternator/power steering and crankshaft pulley.
similiar design and build to the UR pulley set except the UR is generally lighter.

one of the ozhondaians have compared them RZ vs UR, try search for the thread.
is it worth the gain?

hmmm prob not, but noticeably the PS and driving with A/C feels piss easy now and less struggle.
timing belt will cost you approx < $80.

extra note UNDERDRIVE; however i wouldn't be using these if you got a pumped up sound system.

[kitbkk]

I have had UR pulleys in my car for half a year now. I got full audio system installed. There is nothing wrong with alternator pulley...its recharging like normal. but...now my steering wheel start to have clicking sound and all when turn...I could notice it when car is at station and I turn the wheel...

[Crapdaz]

I have had UR pulleys in my car for half a year now. I got full audio system installed. There is nothing wrong with alternator pulley...its recharging like normal. but...now my steering wheel start to have clicking sound and all when turn...I could notice it when car is at station and I turn the wheel...

hmmm would it be your powersteering pump?

[Euro08Jaz]

I have had UR pulleys in my car for half a year now. I got full audio system installed. There is nothing wrong with alternator pulley...its recharging like normal. but...now my steering wheel start to have clicking sound and all when turn...I could notice it when car is at station and I turn the wheel...

is it when your indicators on? if it is mate i have the same problem and i think aaronng also has a similar problem, once i hassle the dealer ill let you know what the problem was.

[kitbkk]

indicators are not on, actually with aircond on and off..doesnt really matter...my power steering makes clinking noises. sometimes its loud sometimes its not..its just annoying noise every time I turn the wheel. never had it before pulleys installed. BTW I could notice the gain.. but not much though.

[Crapdaz]

indicators are not on, actually with aircond on and off..doesnt really matter...my power steering makes clinking noises. sometimes its loud sometimes its not..its just annoying noise every time I turn the wheel. never had it before pulleys installed. BTW I could notice the gain.. but not much though.
did you notice it straight after your install?
have you changed PS fluid to see if it fixes it?

[kitbkk]

nah I didnt notice it straight after the install. right after the install though I felt the steering was a tat bit heavier. PS fluid has not been changed yet.. still dunno whats the cause of it..

[Suntzu]

Try to keep it on topic guys. I need to keep my Mod thread tidy for updates.

[Crapdaz]

yups sorry suntzu, btw is the package on it's way now?

[Suntzu]

Had the old girl detailed today. Took a few pics. Just a basic camera. I got no clue about photos at all!
Heres a teaser. Might put the rest on the photo forum if get a chance. Im holding off on mods till I see how Justin goes with his new head, lol :wave:. Then I'll plan properly...:thumbsup:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3149/frontnopostwk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One More at Dusk:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9391/readrhighbx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[kelvinthai]

i believe you can lower the car more?? it still look too high.. personal opinion. other than that.. very clean car. :p

[Euro08Jaz]

looks good mate, cant wait to see it in person at the next meet

[Suntzu]

Well im not really signing off. Just moving on to let the new guard take over.

heres a final pic of my car...just before i sold it:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2371/spoiler2li8.jpg

It was going really well. My best mods were the jtune mild flash and the RBC. It was a very decently quick car by the time I sold it and it was excellent on fuel. About 10% better than stock. Probably around 6.8 sec to 100km but more importantly it had instant throttle response and great flexibility.

I got $20 000 for it about 3 weeks after listing. Unbelievably a woman from ballarat bought it for her ....wait for it..... L PLATERson who needed it to get to uni in Melbourne...I mean WTF? When i was at uni I had a $2000 KE70 'rolla ..these times are a changin...:zip:

I really loved this car and it was good to me and handled brilliantly, but after 4 years I decided I had to mod it hard...or get soemthing with a "little" more stock power....:cool:

..can you guess what it might be?:wave:

[Suntzu]

Heres a much more cost effective mod if you want a lot more performance and bang for buck:
2007 MY07 230kw 350Z TRACK 17 000km under warranty till April 2010 I Paid $44 000 dealers are still asking $52-$56 000. This car turns heads and has the kw's to back it up....:thumbsup:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4870/threequarter2tj4.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9893/side3qz5.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2672/front2lv0.jpg

So thats it from me. I finally decided to put my money where my mouth was and this car is a bargain in comparison to what i would have spent on my euro to be happy. To be honest it was time to change over to the new members. I dont really fit into the slam it on 20' chromies and doff doff into the sunset crowd. Theres a place for that, just not for me in it.

Best of luck.

russ

[tony1234]

Heres a much more cost effective mod if you want a lot more performance and bang for buck:
2007 MY07 230kw 350Z TRACK 17 000km under warranty till April 2010 I Paid $44 000 dealers are still asking $52-$56 000. This car turns heads and has the kw's to back it up....:thumbsup:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4870/threequarter2tj4.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9893/side3qz5.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2672/front2lv0.jpg

So thats it from me. I finally decided to put my money where my mouth was and this car is a bargain in comparison to what i would have spent on my euro to be happy. To be honest it was time to change over to the new members. I dont really fit into the slam it on 20' chromies and doff doff into the sunset crowd. Theres a place for that, just not for me in it.

Best of luck.

russ
Nice.a mate of mine had the convertible version of what you have with I,H,E.shit it was quick and it handled and stopped well too.