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black8thgen
06-05-2009, 07:30 PM
so wtf is running rich lol

cracker
06-05-2009, 08:04 PM
no clizzue..maybe if u dont ride with 2 credit cards and 2000 cash u aint runnin rich...u aint ballin...im ballin.. im a baller...thus i ball...often

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 08:14 PM
LOL. that didnt help at all

williamwong
06-05-2009, 08:52 PM
Running rich basically means that your Air Fuel Ratio is off and there is more fuel than air, which creates a rich condition.

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 09:00 PM
so that causes popping? =/..

ah... anyways dus neone know why im experiencing a lack of responsiveness after the custom resonator of smaller diameter was put in?

howy
06-05-2009, 09:12 PM
so that causes popping? =/..

ah... anyways dus neone know why im experiencing a lack of responsiveness after the custom resonator of smaller diameter was put in?

i think popping/misfiring is when there's not enough fuel but rather too much air.

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 09:55 PM
oh, that makes a bit more sense haha. hmm would u reckon after the resonator settles in with the system and everything ill get better responsivenesS?

Shimian
06-05-2009, 09:56 PM
i removed my resonator and my car lagged. struggled to go so i put it back on. The rumble was much much louder. Was doing my head in

ekdez
06-05-2009, 10:01 PM
@black8thgen

yeah its all about the air to fuel mixture. it can be caused by changing intakes which allows more air to be sucked in and exhausts with larger diameter outlets. honda made their engines with specific intakes and outlets because they were the correct sizes if you get what i mean.

running rich is when fuel ratio is greater then air, its ok to run rich, just means you need a tune, if the inside of your exhausst pipe is black or going black due to the backfiring or popping, then your running rich.

running lean is when the fuel ratio is lower then air, start worrying. LOL i dunno the car symptoms of this haha

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 10:03 PM
oh LOL. ahhh.. thanks for clearing it up lol.. shit i just wanna know if with this new resonator will the lag always be there or will it settle in later on?

i havn't taken my stock one out and replaced with just like a small pipe, ive put on a custom supercat stainless steel one.. like with proper resonating material and stuff inside.

curtis265
06-05-2009, 10:06 PM
i think if u run rich, the fuel isn't completely burned, so it goes out the exhaust and creates flames....

dont' quote me on it though, that's just what i've gathered.

ekdez
06-05-2009, 10:11 PM
put it this way, when you decided to put your exhaust on did you go for power gains or sound? ask yourself this and did you get what you set out to achieve..

if you went for power gains, you should have gone for a proven, branded catback system.

if you went for sound or cosmetic looks, then you might have welded a cannon of some sort and size onto the rear.

with whatever you do with your car there will always be a consequence. in your case i think the lag will always be there, correct me if im wrong. there is always going to be some sort of lag with any exhaust system.. remember its just an outlet. if you have the matching setup in regards to intake then you might be seeing some improvements!

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
well, in putting the resonator in i set out to add some more sound. with the xforce muffler i actually just used it as a reason to clear the mugen lip kit cos the stock muffler was burning off the paint on the kit.. and i actually found some improvement in responsiveness, but now with increased sound i guess i have to sacrifice responsiveness, its not so bad that it becomes unbearable though so i guess im lucky with that hey

cheers for help mate.

ekdez
06-05-2009, 10:22 PM
:thumbsup:

im not trying to be a wiz kid on the topic, just using my logic which makes sense to me..

black8thgen
06-05-2009, 10:27 PM
=]. btw waternmo: tested out that HKS panel filter yet?!?!?!

JOhnnyFD
06-05-2009, 10:38 PM
put it this way, when you decided to put your exhaust on did you go for power gains or sound? ask yourself this and did you get what you set out to achieve..

if you went for power gains, you should have gone for a proven, branded catback system.

if you went for sound or cosmetic looks, then you might have welded a cannon of some sort and size onto the rear.

with whatever you do with your car there will always be a consequence. in your case i think the lag will always be there, correct me if im wrong. there is always going to be some sort of lag with any exhaust system.. remember its just an outlet. if you have the matching setup in regards to intake then you might be seeing some improvements!

+1, couldnt hav explained it better myself :thumbsup:


well, in putting the resonator in i set out to add some more sound. with the xforce muffler i actually just used it as a reason to clear the mugen lip kit cos the stock muffler was burning off the paint on the kit.. and i actually found some improvement in responsiveness, but now with increased sound i guess i have to sacrifice responsiveness, its not so bad that it becomes unbearable though so i guess im lucky with that hey

cheers for help mate.

ive just got on an x-force muffler and its running fine... noise level isnt too loud or too quiet lik oem and so its right for my liking and once ur inside the car, its quiet as (unless u rev it from mid-high range)

but if u wanted more sound, u should have gotten a cannon muffler.. tat case u wouldnt need to replace the resonator and still have ur responsiveness and loud sound

Waternmo
07-05-2009, 12:22 AM
HID isntalled today! (did i post SprintBooster installed too?) .k. we can probably meet up this weekend if u r free? haha, and no i havnt tried the HKS filter yet, its still on its way, will arrive end of this week i think... coz its light to post hehe... but i've only done 1000km with my OEM one... too clean to change i reckon...

FallenAngel
07-05-2009, 12:27 AM
Haha my car backfires at times when i push the car hard kekeke ^.^

Sherweeeny
07-05-2009, 12:56 AM
no clizzue..maybe if u dont ride with 2 credit cards and 2000 cash u aint runnin rich...u aint ballin...im ballin.. im a baller...thus i ball...often

LOL post of the year!!!!

.k.
07-05-2009, 01:32 PM
yeh weekend sounds good.. sunday? i got work and a 21st on sat

edit - day off ftw! im off to lunch then i'll come back and finish the diy's :)

black8thgen
07-05-2009, 02:40 PM
yea i was thinking hm maybe an xforce canon, but i don't like the look of the canon on the mugen kit, much prefer the twin tip and wanted to keep it clean/stock looking, so i had to compromise and go for the resonator, wasn't aware id lose responsiveness though, but ive compensated for it by driving in S mode more lol, does actually increase responsiveness esp at the low end (which is where the responsiveness was lost - especially going uphill)

btw could someone tell me WHY its losing responsiveness? i cant quite derive why it is like it is

black8thgen
07-05-2009, 03:38 PM
ok got another question: anyone know if i can tap a pos/neg wire to any wires in the INTERIOR fuse box?

.k.
07-05-2009, 03:55 PM
hmm not sure man (whats your name btw im khoi).. if your not doing anything tho checkout my diy and let me know what you think. the rear licence plate light is up.. gotta do front parker and low beams now..

kinda gettin sidetracked playin cod4 tho lol so theres prolly typos

black8thgen
07-05-2009, 04:01 PM
my name is ryan =D.

oh hahaha yea ill check it out. ahhh needa look for a power source inside the car T_T.. anyone know what cables in the fusebox i can tap? such as the interior dome light (if there is one for it in the itnerior fuse)

.k.
07-05-2009, 04:22 PM
haha thanks for the comments.. go check my parker+lowbeam one now? HAHA.. dont have pics yet camera died..

btw whatcha doing that needs the power?

black8thgen
07-05-2009, 04:33 PM
putting LEDs in the front grille hahah. such a ricer =[. but yeah.. and also my current LEDs in the footwells i have currently hookd up to the ciggie lighter, but i wanna change it and hide it better so yeah wanna wire up to something in the interior fuse box (preferably the interior dome light cables)

haha kk ill check it out now ;)

SaBReT00tH
07-05-2009, 04:53 PM
@black8thgen

yeah its all about the air to fuel mixture. it can be caused by changing intakes which allows more air to be sucked in and exhausts with larger diameter outlets. honda made their engines with specific intakes and outlets because they were the correct sizes if you get what i mean.

running rich is when fuel ratio is greater then air, its ok to run rich, just means you need a tune, if the inside of your exhausst pipe is black or going black due to the backfiring or popping, then your running rich.

running lean is when the fuel ratio is lower then air, start worrying. LOL i dunno the car symptoms of this haha


I also installed a K&N Typhoon Short RAM Intake a few months ago. The first day I installed it the sound and performance was incredible!! 3 days later this disappeared and since then I have since been told it is running lean and have noticed an acceleration lag of a few seconds, basically till I get to about 6000revs. Strange/horrible thing is the car is still guzzling fuel quicker than before the SRI was installed, I get around 450/470kmph driving around at an average of about 75km/h mostly on the canberra roads here. I acknowledge the ABS plastic Mugen bodykit + spoiler adds weight and thus fuel consumption but have still noticed greater fuel consumption since installing the SRI. Anyone know how to deal with these performance/lag issues?

replenished.soul
07-05-2009, 10:09 PM
Any one know if its possible to drop a later model k20a with a 6 speed manual gear box preferable like a ep3 or dc5 k20 into a 06 civic sports..would the computer wiring all be the same or need customizing or is possible too mod the k20z too become more powerful than k20a standards

edmbranch
07-05-2009, 10:24 PM
someone's done it before, but with different headers..
(dropping a k20a sourced from an ep3 + skunk2 intake manifold + custom exhaust manifold)

Waternmo
07-05-2009, 11:54 PM
it can be done, sum ppl hav done it with a K24 block + K20A ivtec head... works great + those extra torque from the 2.4L! or a JDM FD2R K20A will fit directly but $$$

.k.
08-05-2009, 01:09 AM
wahh k24/20 frank in a fd mmmm drool

NZFD2
08-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Thanks to .k.'s DIY!

4 x white smd LED
I used a torch to light the area around the overflow and it took me around 5 mins to get it back on :D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3998/dsc01039p.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01039p.jpg)
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http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8717/dsc01029m.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01029m.jpg)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7917/dsc01030u.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01030u.jpg)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2760/dsc01031.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01031.jpg)

.k.
08-05-2009, 11:34 PM
looks good mate glad i could help! ^_^

what lowbeams u usign btw?

NZFD2
09-05-2009, 05:20 AM
looks good mate glad i could help! ^_^

what lowbeams u usign btw?

Thanks :)

Lowbeams are standard honda's HIDs

.k.
09-05-2009, 08:00 AM
honda make a standard hid?

NZFD2
09-05-2009, 09:36 AM
yeah, all FD2s in NZ come standard with HIDs

I guess maybe the ones in NZ are jap made whereas the AUDM ones are made in Thai?

jckidz
09-05-2009, 10:57 AM
For the peepz in Melbourne with Mugen Bodykit.. Where do you guys get it from? I'm looking for a set but couldn't find it other than ebay..

JOhnnyFD
09-05-2009, 11:01 AM
yeah, all FD2s in NZ come standard with HIDs

I guess maybe the ones in NZ are jap made whereas the AUDM ones are made in Thai?

tats gay.. wat else is extraa gay is u guy have the fd2r

NZFD2
09-05-2009, 12:13 PM
tats gay.. wat else is extraa gay is u guy have the fd2r

the fd2r here are all import though, nz honda dealers don't sell them officially. but yeah at least they still have them here..there was a mugen rr for sale as well for $100kNZD

NightRyder
09-05-2009, 08:34 PM
just wished the laws here were more lenient, like you guys in NZ. That way we get the goodies liek you guys (in NZ). I know because I go there often and see this. :)
Where you located NZFD2?

Mugen RR.....Rrrrrrrrrrr....LOL


the fd2r here are all import though, nz honda dealers don't sell them officially. but yeah at least they still have them here..there was a mugen rr for sale as well for $100kNZD

Simy
09-05-2009, 09:16 PM
just question regarding a k20 into the FD...what happens with the dash? cause fds dash only go till 8...where as the k20 revs to 9 no? and the question of 5speed to 6speed? any info on a swap? thanks

NZFD2
09-05-2009, 10:38 PM
just wished the laws here were more lenient, like you guys in NZ. That way we get the goodies liek you guys (in NZ). I know because I go there often and see this. :)
Where you located NZFD2?

Mugen RR.....Rrrrrrrrrrr....LOL

Yeah but tbh the Late model honda scene here is pretty much non existent. I dont see anything for fd here even the popular mugen kits, same with cl7/9 or cu2, so in that sense i quite envy u guys in oz :p

Im in auckland

Waternmo
10-05-2009, 01:57 AM
if u are to drop a K20A into the FD, u'll hav to get those extra parts too, FD2 gear box with LSD, and as u r saying, the tacho... the brakes and the chassis enhancements from the FD2r too!! but then again, those all up will prolly cost like a FD2R...

.k.
10-05-2009, 10:37 AM
and driveshafts etc etc

curtis265
10-05-2009, 11:58 AM
driveshaft o.0

laju
10-05-2009, 08:12 PM
After fitting my k&n panel filter there was a slight improvement in power, but I wasn't satisfied, so i decided to take out the intake resonator/1st airbox under head light.
About an hour and a half later, I have to say i'm surprised with the results, the car is willing to rev a bit harder and just wants to 'go'... would recommend this mod as long as you an aftermarket filter.

http://i41.tinypic.com/ax08ih.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/idhz4p.jpg

*note, car will idle higher*

black8thgen
10-05-2009, 08:20 PM
when you take it out.. what do you do with the pipe that is not opened up?

Shimian
10-05-2009, 08:37 PM
which direction is the pipe facing? Did u have to cut the pipe or just unscrew?

laju
10-05-2009, 08:52 PM
Black8thgen- not sure what you're talking about.

Shimian- there was no cutting just pulled it out, although alot messing about cause there are 2 pipes. I left the pipe coming from airbox just hanging...will attach a hose going to foglight area

http://i41.tinypic.com/4hz40w.jpg

black8thgen
10-05-2009, 08:56 PM
yeah thats what i meant - when you take out the stock air box.. what do you do with the pipe that is left exposed? just leave it hanging there? uhm if there are two pipes... whats the second one do? and what did you do with that?

laju
10-05-2009, 09:15 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2celz5h.jpg

The one on the left is located next to your battery, it feeds air to the resonator
The one on the right goes from resonator/1st airbox to 2nd airbox

Shimian
10-05-2009, 09:23 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2celz5h.jpg

The one on the left is located next to your battery, it feeds air to the resonator
The one on the right goes from resonator to airbox

See the joint on the left pipe? Are you able to detach it (without cutting)from there and connect it to the pipe that you have left hanging?

black8thgen
10-05-2009, 09:34 PM
uh shit.. now im very confused - which is the resonator that you took out =/..

laju
10-05-2009, 09:40 PM
See the joint on the left pipe? Are you able to detach it (without cutting)from there and connect it to the pipe that you have left hanging?

Yes can detach it but no, can't connect to other pipe.

Black8thgen- resonator is the picture above

black8thgen
10-05-2009, 10:04 PM
the big air box? or the pipe on the left?

Shimian
10-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Yes can detach it but no, can't connect to other pipe.

Black8thgen- resonator is the picture above

Would be good if you could attach it. Then you will have some kind of scoop like the mugen version. Might try to experiment with it

Shimian
10-05-2009, 10:26 PM
the big air box? or the pipe on the left?

the resonator is the big black box. But the pipes attached to it is also considered as part of the resonator

.k.
10-05-2009, 11:14 PM
awsome work laju (i thnk that was ur username haha).. will be doing this mod soon as i get a panel filter! just gotta think about what material to use for the hose to make my cold air feed

FallenAngel
10-05-2009, 11:37 PM
I highly would not recommend leaving the pipe there exposed as it is.... its way too weak and flap around as its only made out of plastic and just think of what would happen if something got stuck in there or a build up of crap blocks the airway... EVEN tho you have the filter...

.k.
11-05-2009, 01:45 AM
yeah throw a bit of mesh or something on the end until u finish off your cold air feed!

ekdez
11-05-2009, 09:23 AM
or just buy a cold air intake =]

laju
11-05-2009, 11:48 AM
I highly would not recommend leaving the pipe there exposed as it is.... its way too weak and flap around as its only made out of plastic and just think of what would happen if something got stuck in there or a build up of crap blocks the airway... EVEN tho you have the filter...

Pipe won't flap around as there is a bracket holding it in place...but even if i add a pipe going to front bumper(and i will, just haven't found the right size) , there will still be a chance of build up anyways.

black8thgen
11-05-2009, 03:10 PM
just a quick question guys:

if i have a strip of LEDs connected directly to the battery in the engine bay, but have an on/off switch in between, when that switch is OFF, and the car is also OFF, will it still drain power from the battery? Or is it only when the switch is ON?

thanks.

ej20i
11-05-2009, 03:19 PM
u gona need a relay for it stop draining battery whilst the switch is off
it is best to tap ur power from an acc wire instead of constant

ekdez
11-05-2009, 03:28 PM
also careful when running wires(thin or thick) to your battery.
ive seen the wires burn up and leave track marks in the cars carpet.

black8thgen
11-05-2009, 03:34 PM
ah shit.. reckon thats a high chance dez?

and at ej: how would i set up a relay? and what other power source do you suggest i tap in to besides the battery?

thanks guys

btw: also if i DONT setup the relay and just let it drain, do u think 5 30cm LED strips connected to the battery would run it flat quickly?

ej20i
11-05-2009, 07:17 PM
yes it would,
umm try ur acc wire at the fuse panel inside ur car mate, i'll take a photo for ya...or even ur parkers wire mate

black8thgen
11-05-2009, 07:20 PM
what u mean by the acc wire? ahh ok cheers. hmm, and ground goes to anywhere right?

btw im thinking of just adding in a relay between the circuit, that should make it all fine yeah?

and also i think i blew the fuse on the cigarette lighter - anyone know which fuse it is? cos i lookd in the manual and have no idea which one.. doesn't say anything thats easy to follow so yeaa..

thanks

ej20i
11-05-2009, 09:19 PM
yea shud make it fine heres the pic
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/DSC_0282.jpg
its one of the wires that is shielded with the grey electrical tape...try using volt meter

black8thgen
11-05-2009, 09:27 PM
ahhh i see. thanks mate. i think i'll just put in a relay inbetween the circuit, seems the easiest thing atm.

btw do you know which fuse i need to replace if my ciggie lighter isnt working anymore?

ej20i
11-05-2009, 09:28 PM
shud be a 10 amp mate

black8thgen
11-05-2009, 09:29 PM
ah, hmm. interior or exterior fuse box?

ej20i
12-05-2009, 10:05 AM
interior

black8thgen
12-05-2009, 12:52 PM
thx a lot mate. do you know exactly which one?

FD2mugen
12-05-2009, 01:07 PM
http://www.hondata.com/

FLASHPRO ECU TUNNING FOR CIVIC 06+

available in JUNE.

better strat saving up!:thumbsup:

ej20i
12-05-2009, 03:05 PM
shud state it in the fuse map,
its located at the kik panel of the driver side

howy
12-05-2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.hondata.com/

FLASHPRO ECU TUNNING FOR CIVIC 06+

available in JUNE.

better strat saving up!:thumbsup:

Supported vehicles:

* 2006 + US Civic Si (RRB-A01 through RRB-A14)
* 2007 + European Civic Type R (RSP-E01 through RSP-E03)
* 2007 + Japanese Civic Type R (RRC-J01 through RRC-J04)

Not sure if it'll support our civics...

FallenAngel
12-05-2009, 06:09 PM
http://www.hondata.com/

FLASHPRO ECU TUNNING FOR CIVIC 06+

available in JUNE.

better strat saving up!:thumbsup:

Also no serious engine mods no need...

black8thgen
12-05-2009, 06:20 PM
shud state it in the fuse map,
its located at the kik panel of the driver side
yeah but in the fuse map it doesn't say anything about the cig lighter? Do you know if theres a code or abbreviation for it or something?

thx

howy
12-05-2009, 08:03 PM
Also no serious engine mods no need...

But i guess it'll gradually lead to more engine mods...

FallenAngel
12-05-2009, 11:26 PM
But i guess it'll gradually lead to more engine mods...

Haha you got me there...

ej20i
13-05-2009, 08:58 AM
it shud be link to something else, maybe interior light, u just gona have to chek by pulling one by one
i changed one b4 i forgot which one
sorry man

black8thgen
13-05-2009, 09:18 AM
Ahh ok. Thats all sweet. Thanks for the help mate. Btw how would u tap the wires into the front parkers? Do u just pull out the wires on the parker clip and twist em together? decided to use parker power rather than install a relay.

cracker
13-05-2009, 09:38 AM
i just realised how small the fd community is lol...........R18a pwnzzzzzzzzzzz

the fuse for my undercar LED lights blew :( :( :( :( sighzorsssssss now i dont look fast and furious no mo :(

ej20i
13-05-2009, 11:24 AM
Lol cracker.black8thgen,just splice em or use wire tapper from jaycar or summin.

rene
13-05-2009, 11:31 AM
thinking to sell my car...anyone interested? :)

.k.
13-05-2009, 01:08 PM
not in the whole car but would you sep parts? hehe

to the brisbane people - wanna go to carwash 2nite? - mark / leo / ondy?

ej20i
13-05-2009, 01:11 PM
seperate rene?hehehehehe

rene
13-05-2009, 01:18 PM
not in the whole car but would you sep parts? hehe

to the brisbane people - wanna go to carwash 2nite? - mark / leo / ondy?

haha separate the parts? mebbe...moving my car to stocks so i could upgrade my car.

which part you after? ahha

.k.
13-05-2009, 01:45 PM
what have you got lol?

rene
13-05-2009, 02:06 PM
what have you got lol?

I have .....

1. Replica Mugen RR Carbon bonet
2. Replica Mugen body kits (Side, front, back)
3. Carbon Lip that sit under front bodykit
4. Carbon Honda grill
5. Original red and black Type R emblem
6. Pedders springs
7. Lenso type M 18 inch with tyres
8. Emtech HID 6K x2
9. Foglights bla bla bla.

I would rather to sell this as a whole instead of sell it piece by piece so if someone put an offer i cant refuse then I am sold :)

Please send me tell of what you after for and your offer, serious offer only please...:cool:

JOhnnyFD
13-05-2009, 02:10 PM
I have .....

1. Replica Mugen RR Carbon bonet
2. Replica Mugen body kits (Side, front, back)
3. Carbon Lip that sit under front bodykit
4. Carbon Honda grill
5. Original red and black Type R emblem
6. Pedders springs
7. Lenso type M 18 inch with tyres
8. Emtech HID 6K x2
9. Foglights bla bla bla.

I would rather to sell this as a whole instead of sell it piece by piece so if someone put an offer i cant refuse then I am sold :)

Please send me tell of what you after for and your offer, serious offer only please...:cool:

pics?? y u sellin?

rene
13-05-2009, 02:22 PM
pics?? y u sellin?

here you go mate, reason why i am selling is because im selling my car.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4489/mossgpz.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mossgpz.jpg)

kn_19_ht
13-05-2009, 02:26 PM
thats hot!!!

.k.
13-05-2009, 02:28 PM
whats the drop on those springs?

i'd take - fogs, 6k hid, grille =]

JOhnnyFD
13-05-2009, 02:43 PM
here you go mate, reason why i am selling is because im selling my car.
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no shiet

rene
13-05-2009, 02:44 PM
no shiet

is that sarcasm? or supprise reaction? lol

.k.
13-05-2009, 02:46 PM
how much would u let the bonnet go for?

JOhnnyFD
13-05-2009, 02:51 PM
reason i said no shiet is becoz its a 'no shiet' to ur reason.. sarcasm failed

looks clean, gl wif sale

rene
13-05-2009, 02:58 PM
how much would u let the bonnet go for?
Send me in tell bro..i dont want to get banned.

danjoy25
13-05-2009, 06:55 PM
Sent you a PM about your Lenso wheels :thumbsup:

black8thgen
13-05-2009, 07:08 PM
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sab0r
13-05-2009, 07:33 PM
i got some blue LED(parkers) 12V lights today, it was working at the store's plug but wen i put it on the car at first, none of the lights were working. then wen i swapped it around, only two of them worked. then it went out later on. also, i found that LED makes the plug so much hotter than normal globes.. is that normal? and for the ppl who got their parkers leds,
lives in sydney and didnt get it at ebay where did u get them from?

black8thgen
13-05-2009, 07:42 PM
hmm.. just get them off ebay mate. or try this site:

http://www.brightlightautoparts.com/LEDReplacementGlobes.html

Ivan_Y
13-05-2009, 07:45 PM
cant pm you rene, ur inbox full. i'm interested with the air splitter

ryanc
13-05-2009, 09:21 PM
rene:
id b interested in a lot of ur parts (kit / fog / bonnet)
plz pm me

ekdez
13-05-2009, 09:38 PM
damn i would be interested in the cf bonnet and air splitter too.
pm me with prices. your inbox is full. im canberra so can pick up if shipping isnt a possibility.
regards,

JOhnnyFD
13-05-2009, 09:43 PM
i got some blue LED(parkers) 12V lights today, it was working at the store's plug but wen i put it on the car at first, none of the lights were working. then wen i swapped it around, only two of them worked. then it went out later on. also, i found that LED makes the plug so much hotter than normal globes.. is that normal? and for the ppl who got their parkers leds,
lives in sydney and didnt get it at ebay where did u get them from?

got mine at flemington markets.. lol
forgot what the store name is but its lik the main auto shop at the markets

try rotate the parkers and fit it back in

black8thgen
13-05-2009, 09:45 PM
btw does anyone know if connecting FIVE (5) 30cm LED strips to the positive parker wire will cause any problems once its on? i dont want some crazy electrical issue to arise like wires catching fire or something lol.

just need a quick reply please! =]

JOhnnyFD
13-05-2009, 09:48 PM
btw does anyone know if connecting FIVE (5) 30cm LED strips to the positive parker wire will cause any problems once its on? i dont want some crazy electrical issue to arise like wires catching fire or something lol.

just need a quick reply please! =]

dude.. u posted this comment lik 3times.. make a separate thread or sumthing

black8thgen
13-05-2009, 09:50 PM
yea well making a seperate thread is more a waste of space than this.. but was thinking its just an easy reply or smething.. sorry about the spam guys

rene
14-05-2009, 09:55 AM
Tim your inbox is full mate.

ej20i
14-05-2009, 10:24 AM
cleared!

black8thgen
14-05-2009, 11:09 AM
rene sent u a pm - just cleared my inbox then.. so yeah sorry if it was full before

kazam
14-05-2009, 08:42 PM
spotted TIM.11E i think the other night infront of milllenium gym waitara!

very VERY sexy FD... first nicely done up one i've seen in person, only caught a quick glance as I was driving past though

black8thgen
14-05-2009, 09:01 PM
awesome - tim u go millenium at waitara? ?!?! i go there on wednesdays at 1-2.30.. when do u go!??!

kazam
14-05-2009, 09:05 PM
i just saw him drive past, y do u only go for that period of time?

black8thgen
14-05-2009, 09:13 PM
ohh right, oh lol cos its for school sport.. so yeah hahaha

kazam
14-05-2009, 09:24 PM
normo boys?

ej20i
14-05-2009, 09:39 PM
o thanks for the comment guys, hehehehehhe
will be installing mugen wing this sunday!
i drove past a gym yesterday??wad time exactly was it kazam?

black8thgen
14-05-2009, 09:48 PM
yea kazam normo boys.. lol. how u know?

wow nice ej.. the mugen wing looks better than the lip!! =D. hehehe.

kazam
14-05-2009, 10:03 PM
yesterday JUST after 7, u past a round about, and about 100mtres down, u wher driving parallel 2 waitara station, u drove past me, and a little further ahead of u was a crossing and there were all these cars parked to your right... wouldah flashed yah but assumed u wouldnt no who i was coz im not part of the FD crew :p


and B8G i just remember on wednesday full of your stupid red uniform using all the machines lol

black8thgen
14-05-2009, 10:17 PM
oh right. hahaha. yeah sorry about that lol. half the people there dont do shit, but believe or not the other half are doing something useful with the machines and weights haha. where do you park ur civic? in the carpark? mine is always outside on the side of the street, opposite to the 90 degree carpark spot. black civic with full mugen kit - what u got on urs? =D ill look out for it next time lol

kazam
14-05-2009, 10:48 PM
i usually park right infront of the gym, or in the carpark, i own an older white civic, u wont miss it ;)

aero
15-05-2009, 09:41 PM
alrite.. so ive got more pics of my car and my latest mods, which ive gotten in the past week or so.

#1 wheels.

these are some 19x8.5" +35 rims, made by SSW with some 235 tyres.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/P11-05-09_1541.jpg

#2 pleather interior.

not real leather, but looks and feels just as good. still needs some time to settle in and smoothen out as these pics were taken as soon as me and .k. got them fitted.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/IMG_1842.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/IMG_1840.jpg

#3 mugen lip kit.

got the kit a couple of weeks ago, but only got it fitted today.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/P15-05-09_180102.jpg

#4 bulbs and LEDs.

with help from .k. i was able to change my parkers and licence plate lights to white LEDs and also got some Mtec 4750k bulbs

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/P15-05-09_175601.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/P15-05-09_1757.jpg

#5 exhaust tips.

as u can prob see in the above pic, i got some chrome exhaust tips put on. they look much like the chrome cover tip option from Honda. i dont really want a loud or race look, so i just kept it with 2.5" twin tips.

future:

the car is still on stock height atm, and because of the wheels i do get a bit of scraping on the guards. but its not totally unbearable, just need to drive a bit more careful.
i dont have money to lower it atm, but in time ill be getting some coilovers to get it lowered a bit, whilst also being stiff enough not to scrub too much. :)

ej20i
15-05-2009, 09:43 PM
man all ur pics are pics of ur rims bro
and kazam and black8thgen, i will be at milenuim between 6-7 every thursday now

ej20i
15-05-2009, 09:45 PM
NICE CAR!!!where did u get the pleather from?

black8thgen
15-05-2009, 09:46 PM
wow. hot car mate. nice job on it!

aero
15-05-2009, 09:50 PM
NICE CAR!!!where did u get the pleather from?

got it from ultimate auto trim. the seller on ebay. took a while for them to make the product. it was about 5-6 weeks from when i paid for it, to when i got it at my doorstep.
i also got some extra material to do the door trim. so that'll probably be on by next week.

liquid23
15-05-2009, 10:43 PM
hey guys

was wondering has anyone in Australia got the Mugen RR kit or know the cost of it? i'm planning to replace my Mugen rear bumper and Type R CF spoiler if i can find the parts. Then i'll sell the bumper and spoiler to anyone who wants it =)

Fung
15-05-2009, 10:50 PM
yup, theres one sellin it on ebay
hes askin for 5K

while i am still saving up and plannin to get one overseas =P

aero
15-05-2009, 10:51 PM
hey guys

was wondering has anyone in Australia got the Mugen RR kit or know the cost of it? i'm planning to replace my Mugen rear bumper and Type R CF spoiler if i can find the parts. Then i'll sell the bumper and spoiler to anyone who wants it =)

ebay. there's one up for sale. $5000
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MUGEN-RR-style-body-kit-civic-FD1-FD2-FD-R18-K20-K24_W0QQitemZ110374185798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item110374185798

liquid23
15-05-2009, 11:15 PM
damn 5k is maybe a tad over priced? lol
from the picture the spoiler isn't the actual Mugen RR spoiler where it has a center piece on the bottom and CF centre piece is skinnier. just looks like a type R spoiler.

which body kit does everyone prefer?
Mugen
Mugen RR
Type R

or abit of mix and match :p

ekdez
15-05-2009, 11:56 PM
nice aero!
im running similar specs on my wheels =]
gotta love how they stick out of the car (Y) pffft to weak offsets haha
gotta slam it asap!
keep it up (Y)

aero
16-05-2009, 12:29 AM
thanks man. btw, what suspension have u got on urs?

.k.
16-05-2009, 12:55 AM
will get pics later but newest mod - getting hit and run at a carpark.. results? - scratches and now rear lip doesnt sit properly so i might do a diy of how to attatch modulo rear lip =]

air23box
16-05-2009, 03:18 AM
Running rich basically means that your Air Fuel Ratio is off and there is more fuel than air, which creates a rich condition.


so that causes popping? =/..

ah... anyways dus neone know why im experiencing a lack of responsiveness after the custom resonator of smaller diameter was put in?


i think popping/misfiring is when there's not enough fuel but rather too much air.



oh, that makes a bit more sense haha. hmm would u reckon after the resonator settles in with the system and everything ill get better responsivenesS?

ur system may get louder but it won't help with reponsiveness~!


i removed my resonator and my car lagged. struggled to go so i put it back on. The rumble was much much louder. Was doing my head in


@black8thgen

yeah its all about the air to fuel mixture. it can be caused by changing intakes which allows more air to be sucked in and exhausts with larger diameter outlets. honda made their engines with specific intakes and outlets because they were the correct sizes if you get what i mean.

running rich is when fuel ratio is greater then air, its ok to run rich, just means you need a tune, if the inside of your exhausst pipe is black or going black due to the backfiring or popping, then your running rich.

running lean is when the fuel ratio is lower then air, start worrying. LOL i dunno the car symptoms of this haha

rich mean fuel > air
lean mean air > fuel
Its always safer to run rich rather then lean, running too lean may blow ur engine coz of more heat build up.


oh LOL. ahhh.. thanks for clearing it up lol.. shit i just wanna know if with this new resonator will the lag always be there or will it settle in later on?

i havn't taken my stock one out and replaced with just like a small pipe, ive put on a custom supercat stainless steel one.. like with proper resonating material and stuff inside.


i think if u run rich, the fuel isn't completely burned, so it goes out the exhaust and creates flames....

dont' quote me on it though, that's just what i've gathered.

It won't happen coz you have cat and the unburned fuel won't be able to reach ur exhaust~!


well, in putting the resonator in i set out to add some more sound. with the xforce muffler i actually just used it as a reason to clear the mugen lip kit cos the stock muffler was burning off the paint on the kit.. and i actually found some improvement in responsiveness, but now with increased sound i guess i have to sacrifice responsiveness, its not so bad that it becomes unbearable though so i guess im lucky with that hey

cheers for help mate.

All you guys are talking about running either rich and lean but that generally won't happen to any of you guys since you only did basic intake and exhaust. Your stock ECU can adjust and learn the new mods so it should be fine, it won't coz anything unless you touch your internal and start to play with AF ratio, compression rate, size of head gasket....etc...
By removing the resanator will only give you louder sound of the exhaust and maybe some better flow in high end....but certainly it will reduce ur torque because the whole system is lack of back pressure unless you have some basic ECU tune of ur car. All you need to consider is your car is running for daily basis and start stop traffic. By removing the resanator only won't do any good.....let me put it this way, I race my DC5R and I have 2 setup, I run spoon 4-2 header with JDM 2-1 with cat, Mugen twinloop cat back, mugen airbox and stock ECU for street which give me resonable gain but not by much compare to stock. But I run Mugen Airbox, spoon 4-2 header and Mugen N1 exhaust which is 2-1 then 70mm no cat no resenator but only a N1 muffler which you can see through it. the car is totally different and its rev up so much quicker and its about 20kw different compare to my street setup. but the car will still feel a bit lack of low end torque. But race car don't need much torque coz you are driving on high rev most of the time except you are on ur warn up and cool down lap......hope that explain the problem and clear all ur questions.


+1, couldnt hav explained it better myself :thumbsup:

ive just got on an x-force muffler and its running fine... noise level isnt too loud or too quiet lik oem and so its right for my liking and once ur inside the car, its quiet as (unless u rev it from mid-high range)

but if u wanted more sound, u should have gotten a cannon muffler.. tat case u wouldnt need to replace the resonator and still have ur responsiveness and loud sound

Cannon muffler will only give you more sound but it won't give you any gain in either respond and power.


Haha my car backfires at times when i push the car hard kekeke ^.^

Unless you run without cat......there won't be and backfire happen~!


Any one know if its possible to drop a later model k20a with a 6 speed manual gear box preferable like a ep3 or dc5 k20 into a 06 civic sports..would the computer wiring all be the same or need customizing or is possible too mod the k20z too become more powerful than k20a standards

Yes its possible but you need the loom to go with it, you can't use ur orignal loom and wires. also you need to stock ecu for that engine. you can change the cams and pistons, thinner head gasket to increase the compression rate and better valve springs. Its all depends on how much you wanna to spend. But it will be sth more customise and you need to know what you are doing.


just question regarding a k20 into the FD...what happens with the dash? cause fds dash only go till 8...where as the k20 revs to 9 no? and the question of 5speed to 6speed? any info on a swap? thanks

yes, you need to replace the loom and wiring and also the dash too.


the resonator is the big black box. But the pipes attached to it is also considered as part of the resonator

Resonator is part of ur exhaust system, not intake.


ebay. there's one up for sale. $5000
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MUGEN-RR-style-body-kit-civic-FD1-FD2-FD-R18-K20-K24_W0QQitemZ110374185798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item110374185798

That cost as much as the geniune mugen lip kit and the rear bar looks ugly as....also you need to custom the rear lep brake light on the rear bumper too.

ekdez
16-05-2009, 11:57 AM
thanks man. btw, what suspension have u got on urs?

i have bbs lm's, 18x8 and 18x9 +35 all round.
slamming it on buddy club n+ cost me an arm and a leg, but its worth it (Y)
going in on monday.

getting guards rolled, lips possibly flared to fit rear, i dunno if its needed
n+ put in, gonna put it on 12/10 stiffness prob, and gonna sit my wheel arch over the tire.. cbf to tuck..
damage also getting fixed, a lady reversed and took paint off my car somehow.. females :| haha jks and the idiot who decided to run over the top of my car too, leaving a dent on the bonnet and roof.

damn i wish i had my j's exhaust, so that could go in at the same time.... :(

i guess that will have to wait till next week..

curtis265
16-05-2009, 12:27 PM
By removing the resanator will only give you louder sound of the exhaust and maybe some better flow in high end....but certainly it will reduce ur torque because the whole system is lack of back pressure unless you have some basic ECU tune of ur car. All you need to consider is your car is running for daily basis and start stop traffic. By removing the resanator only won't do any good.....let me put it this way, I race my DC5R and I have 2 setup, I run spoon 4-2 header with JDM 2-1 with cat, Mugen twinloop cat back, mugen airbox and stock ECU for street which give me resonable gain but not by much compare to stock. But I run Mugen Airbox, spoon 4-2 header and Mugen N1 exhaust which is 2-1 then 70mm no cat no resenator but only a N1 muffler which you can see through it. the car is totally different and its rev up so much quicker and its about 20kw different compare to my street setup. but the car will still feel a bit lack of low end torque. But race car don't need much torque coz you are driving on high rev most of the time except you are on ur warn up and cool down lap......hope that explain the problem and clear all ur questions.



Sorry to be a pain, but this is what i saw on another forum



Backpressure: The myth and why it's wrong.

I. Introduction

One of the most misunderstood concepts in exhaust theory is backpressure. People love to talk about backpressure on message boards with no real understanding of what it is and what it's consequences are. I'm sure many of you have heard or read the phrase "Hondas need backpressure" when discussing exhaust upgrades. That phrase is in fact completely inaccurate and a wholly misguided notion.

II. Some basic exhaust theory

Your exhaust system is designed to evacuate gases from the combustion chamber quickly and efficently. Exhaust gases are not produced in a smooth stream; exhaust gases originate in pulses. A 4 cylinder motor will have 4 distinct pulses per complete engine cycle, a 6 cylinder has 6 pules and so on. The more pulses that are produced, the more continuous the exhaust flow. Backpressure can be loosely defined as the resistance to positive flow - in this case, the resistance to positive flow of the exhaust stream.

III. Backpressure and velocity

Some people operate under the misguided notion that wider pipes are more effective at clearing the combustion chamber than narrower pipes. It's not hard to see how this misconception is appealing - wider pipes have the capability to flow more than narrower pipes. So if they have the ability to flow more, why isn't "wider is better" a good rule of thumb for exhaust upgrading? In a word - VELOCITY. I'm sure that all of you have at one time used a garden hose w/o a spray nozzle on it. If you let the water just run unrestricted out of the house it flows at a rather slow rate. However, if you take your finger and cover part of the opening, the water will flow out at a much much faster rate.

The astute exhaust designer knows that you must balance flow capacity with velocity. You want the exhaust gases to exit the chamber and speed along at the highest velocity possible - you want a FAST exhaust stream. If you have two exhaust pulses of equal volume, one in a 2" pipe and one in a 3" pipe, the pulse in the 2" pipe will be traveling considerably FASTER than the pulse in the 3" pipe. While it is true that the narrower the pipe, the higher the velocity of the exiting gases, you want make sure the pipe is wide enough so that there is as little backpressure as possible while maintaining suitable exhaust gas velocity. Backpressure in it's most extreme form can lead to reversion of the exhaust stream - that is to say the exhaust flows backwards, which is not good. The trick is to have a pipe that that is as narrow as possible while having as close to zero backpressure as possible at the RPM range you want your power band to be located at. Exhaust pipe diameters are best suited to a particular RPM range. A smaller pipe diameter will produce higher exhaust velocities at a lower RPM but create unacceptably high amounts of backpressure at high rpm. Thus if your powerband is located 2-3000 RPM you'd want a narrower pipe than if your powerband is located at 8-9000RPM.

Many engineers try to work around the RPM specific nature of pipe diameters by using setups that are capable of creating a similar effect as a change in pipe diameter on the fly. The most advanced is Ferrari's which consists of two exhaust paths after the header - at low RPM only one path is open to maintain exhaust velocity, but as RPM climbs and exhaust volume increases, the second path is opened to curb backpressure - since there is greater exhaust volume there is no loss in flow velocity. BMW and Nissan use a simpler and less effective method - there is a single exhaust path to the muffler; the muffler has two paths; one path is closed at low RPM but both are open at high RPM.

IV. So how did this myth come to be?

I often wonder how the myth "Hondas need backpressure" came to be. Mostly I believe it is a misunderstanding of what is going on with the exhaust stream as pipe diameters change. For instance, someone with a civic decides he's going to uprade his exhaust with a 3" diameter piping. Once it's installed the owner notices that he seems to have lost a good bit of power throughout the powerband. He makes the connections in the following manner: "My wider exhaust eliminated all backpressure but I lost power, therefore the motor must need some backpressure in order to make power." What he did not realize is that he killed off all his flow velocity by using such a ridiculously wide pipe. It would have been possible for him to achieve close to zero backpressure with a much narrower pipe - in that way he would not have lost all his flow velocity.

V. So why is exhaust velocity so important?

The faster an exhaust pulse moves, the better it can scavenge out all of the spent gasses during valve overlap. The guiding principles of exhaust pulse scavenging are a bit beyond the scope of this doc but the general idea is a fast moving pulse creates a low pressure area behind it. This low pressure area acts as a vacuum and draws along the air behind it. A similar example would be a vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed on a dusty road. There is a low pressure area immediately behind the moving vehicle - dust particles get sucked into this low pressure area causing it to collect on the back of the vehicle. This effect is most noticeable on vans and hatchbacks which tend to create large trailing low pressure areas - giving rise to the numerous "wash me please" messages written in the thickly collected dust on the rear door(s).

VI. Conclusion.

SO it turns out that Hondas don't need backpressure, they need as high a flow velocity as possible with as little backpressure as possible.

This [I]does[I] make sense to me, but I dont know it's credibility 'cos it's been copy-pasted and not cited... but it goes against what you said about backpressure. I'm not an expert in the field of fluid mechanics.

Fung
16-05-2009, 01:15 PM
damn 5k is maybe a tad over priced? lol
from the picture the spoiler isn't the actual Mugen RR spoiler where it has a center piece on the bottom and CF centre piece is skinnier. just looks like a type R spoiler.

which body kit does everyone prefer?
Mugen
Mugen RR
Type R

or abit of mix and match :p



but it could be the shipping??
can anybody confirm roughly the cost for shipping a whole bodykit into Aus?

black8thgen
16-05-2009, 01:38 PM
nah its 5k witohut shipping i think.. the guy is located in sydney anyway.

not sure how much shipping to aus would be. but varies from diff countries, where you looking to import from?

liquid23
16-05-2009, 02:16 PM
well it says its $200 to ship within australia.

I have imported from Taiwan by sea because if things are imported they cannot be over 110cm or something by air so i had to get 0.5 cubic meters of a container. That costs US$215 and then you have to pay import charges and tax and all this crap so it turned out to be US$215 + AU$470 :(

i got my mugen kit from carlights or something in brisbane. shipping was only $100

ej20i
16-05-2009, 02:47 PM
got it from ultimate auto trim. the seller on ebay. took a while for them to make the product. it was about 5-6 weeks from when i paid for it, to when i got it at my doorstep.
i also got some extra material to do the door trim. so that'll probably be on by next week.

How much??????can u pls find out for me?just for bak seat as I've got bucket seat up front n the armrest. Much appriciated.

g

BC8
16-05-2009, 05:25 PM
hey guys

What size tyre's are you guys using for ur 17" wheel specs that doesn't affect the speedometer of your car

trying to find the best tyre for 17" rims and also suggestions for particular brands.

Kumho Ku31
yokhoma s-drives
falkens.

thanks

black8thgen
16-05-2009, 06:32 PM
my stock sport rims are 215/45/17

the michellin pilot preceda on mine are pretty sweet. most people have said good things about them too from what i read.

aero
16-05-2009, 11:14 PM
How much??????can u pls find out for me?just for bak seat as I've got bucket seat up front n the armrest. Much appriciated.

g

i wouldnt know how much it would cost just for the rear seats, but the arm rest in the middle is $50 and if u want extra material to do ur door trims its an extra $100.
they're still selling on ebay, so u should give them a message and ask how much it would be for just the rear seats.

here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LEATHER-SEAT-ACCORD-EURO-JAZZ-CRV-INTEGRA-CIVIC-PRELUDE_W0QQitemZ250422439413QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item250422439413&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A1|294%3A50

sab0r
17-05-2009, 05:23 AM
hey guys, you know 09 civic's low beam have a cap on it, i was thinking of removing it to make the bulb brighter. just wondering , has anyone done it b4(if they have how did they do it)? can u put the cap back later on?

ej20i
17-05-2009, 07:36 AM
Why on earth wuld you do that?

air23box
17-05-2009, 07:45 AM
Sorry to be a pain, but this is what i saw on another forum




This [I]does[I] make sense to me, but I dont know it's credibility 'cos it's been copy-pasted and not cited... but it goes against what you said about backpressure. I'm not an expert in the field of fluid mechanics.

What I mean is when you travel in lower RPM and if you run a 3" exhaust pipe then your system is not as efficient as running a 2.5" exhaust pipe. unless you rev the hell out of ur car daily and keep driving at 7000-8000 RPM at all times. And I experience a lot of different setup of honda's and I can tell you if you drive one with or without resonator, the one with it will have better torque and the one without will have better power in high end. hope that clears the question.....

curtis265
17-05-2009, 11:41 AM
What I mean is when you travel in lower RPM and if you run a 3" exhaust pipe then your system is not as efficient as running a 2.5" exhaust pipe. unless you rev the hell out of ur car daily and keep driving at 7000-8000 RPM at all times. And I experience a lot of different setup of honda's and I can tell you if you drive one with or without resonator, the one with it will have better torque and the one without will have better power in high end. hope that clears the question.....

Misheard ya :thumbsup:

Fung
17-05-2009, 02:59 PM
nah its 5k witohut shipping i think.. the guy is located in sydney anyway.

not sure how much shipping to aus would be. but varies from diff countries, where you looking to import from?



i am looking to import from Malaysia or Singapore.

how much would the shipping be?

i hope its cheap, coz i dont have a job... i live off my parents atm ><"
bloody youth allowance god dammit

black8thgen
17-05-2009, 03:13 PM
shipping from malaysia/singapore for a body kit... uhh theres one seller who has it priced at 350 AUD shipped from malaysia to aus. heres the ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-06-07-Honda-Civic-FD-Sedan-MUGEN-STYLE-FULL-BODYKIT_W0QQitemZ130196989364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item130196989364&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Fung
17-05-2009, 04:09 PM
but i want the RR kit

not mugen or fd2r

black8thgen
17-05-2009, 04:12 PM
yea i know but im just showing u the price for postage, theres only one RR kit on ebay that ive found - the one in sydney for 5 grand.

Fung
17-05-2009, 04:35 PM
yeah, that dude must be thinking hes the only 1 who could get the RR kit LOL
5 grand, and thats not the best quality ive seen, no brake light at the rear spoiler...

thats a massive turn off~

black8thgen
17-05-2009, 05:02 PM
LOL yea i know.. ahahha

sab0r
17-05-2009, 05:16 PM
hey guys, have anyone here done jobs at carmate?

ekdez
17-05-2009, 07:40 PM
i heard carmate is shit. only 60&#37; of there stuff ever fits.. and thats was rarity.. up to you to try it out tho.

ej20i
17-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Mugen wing installed woo hooo!

liquid23
17-05-2009, 08:01 PM
but i want the RR kit

not mugen or fd2r

i have found a supplier in singapore/brunei that has the exact same kit as the one selling on ebay. there is actually alot of carbon fiber in the kit itself. i just called them up today and they said the Mugen RR kit is between $4000 - $5000 (SGD) which is around AU $3.6k - 4.5k. Shipping is not yet confirmed. They don't know any reliable shipping couriers as they don't ship overseas much.
But i'm only looking for the back bumper or maybe the full kit but the gf hates the mugen RR front bumper because it looks like a vampire -_-" ... you can never win

black8thgen
17-05-2009, 08:14 PM
HAHAHAA. vampire, thats the funniest thing ive heard a gf say about the car haha. yeah dw mate i know how u feel, u love one thing, so geed to get it and install it...then the gf doesn't approve, shame =[.

ej how do u like the mugen wing.. better than ur previous lip? =D

curtis265
17-05-2009, 08:36 PM
a 5k bodykit can go fk itself... seriously

liquid23
17-05-2009, 08:53 PM
a 5k bodykit can go fk itself... seriously

if you get it from carmate,
front bumper + back bumper + side skirt + RR Spoiler = $1410.8 (ex. delivery)
you just need to find the grill, but i'm assuming none of it is carbon fiber or has any carbon fiber inserts. Maybe you can get carbon fiber on it afterwards

as ekdez said
i heard carmate is shit. only 60% of there stuff ever fits.. and thats was rarity.. up to you to try it out tho.

i don't know this first hand but that is the cheapest Mugen RR kit out there i reckon.

curtis265
17-05-2009, 08:57 PM
I wouldn't risk it.

Fung
17-05-2009, 10:32 PM
me too...heard too many shizz from carmate...
i heard from malay too, around the same price, i think theres some carbon too.

1 more Q, IF we got the RR kit, for the grill, is there any around that fits ?

curtis265
17-05-2009, 11:01 PM
I'd rather DIY a cardboard bodykit

ej20i
17-05-2009, 11:23 PM
yea man, im loving the mugen kit thnx to jace btw
my gf loves it aswell!!so im happy in both world!!hehehehehhe
here it is
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_0050.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_0050.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_0056.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_0055.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/IMG_0052.jpg

ryanc
17-05-2009, 11:37 PM
nice :)
btw isnt it illegal for our cars to have the number plate on the side like that?

curtis265
17-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Ru gonna get that painted?

akaiEG5
17-05-2009, 11:51 PM
this car... i've seen it at macquarie uni... i was following it to get to class~ :)

cracker
18-05-2009, 12:19 AM
ahh timmie thats u...seen u round chatshood

howy
18-05-2009, 12:54 AM
nice stuff tim!

did jace sell you the wing?

is he selling the rest of the kit? i might be interested ;)

sab0r
18-05-2009, 02:07 AM
hey guys, about carmate, if u get them to fit the bodykit on, it should be all good yea? i mean if they cant fit the bodykit they wont get the money.

Fung
18-05-2009, 09:48 AM
but you never know....you order them, if the job is shit, cant complain bro.
they might charge you some $$$ for making that kit for you

tonz
18-05-2009, 02:02 PM
are u guys serious...u care what your gf's say...its your car right....LMAO

ekdez
18-05-2009, 02:50 PM
are u guys serious...u care what your gf's say...its your car right....LMAO

all he said was his gf likes it too..
he never said n e thing about, if his gf dislikes it then he has to take it off..

i'd hate to be a idiot who jumps to conclusions.

aero
18-05-2009, 02:55 PM
its always a bonus to mod ur car and have ur girlfriend like it as well. :thumbsup:

tonz
18-05-2009, 02:56 PM
all he said was his gf likes it too..
he never said n e thing about, if his gf dislikes it then he has to take it off..

i'd hate to be a idiot who jumps to conclusions.

he actually said his gf did not like it cos it made the car look like a vampire...who's the idiot now.

tonz
18-05-2009, 02:58 PM
i have found a supplier in singapore/brunei that has the exact same kit as the one selling on ebay. there is actually alot of carbon fiber in the kit itself. i just called them up today and they said the Mugen RR kit is between $4000 - $5000 (SGD) which is around AU $3.6k - 4.5k. Shipping is not yet confirmed. They don't know any reliable shipping couriers as they don't ship overseas much.
But i'm only looking for the back bumper or maybe the full kit but the gf hates the mugen RR front bumper because it looks like a vampire -_-" ... you can never win

here is what he actually said...and hence what i was commenting on. Read the last paragraph....and why don't you stop jumping to conclusions and implying people are idiots.

tonz
18-05-2009, 03:03 PM
its always a bonus to mod ur car and have ur girlfriend like it as well. :thumbsup:

I agree with u, but what i was trying to say is that u shouldn't let your gf's decide what u do or don't do with your cars...if you u drive it and u like what u have done to it then that's it...let the gf worry about shopping and stay away from boys and their toys. Thats my opinion.

ekdez
18-05-2009, 03:55 PM
i really haven't got time for this.. but hey.. i dislike people who come across arrogant.


... .
i'm only looking for the back bumper or maybe the full kit but the gf hates the mugen RR front bumper because it looks like a vampire -_-" ... you can never win

liquid23 is still talking about getting the rr kit, chances are his not gonna get it, who's gonna pay 5's for a kit. and also he never mentions that, based on his gf's voice, his not going to still get the kit. mind you his still looking for it..


yea man, im loving the mugen kit thnx to jace btw
my gf loves it aswell!!so im happy in both world!!hehehehehhe
here it is

i thought you were referring tho this post. sorry.


he actually said his gf did not like it cos it made the car look like a vampire...who's the idiot now.

either way, tonz, think about the way you write things before you post. that is all, i really dont care. ciao!

ekdez
18-05-2009, 04:43 PM
anyway...

has anyone got camber kits? where from and how much?
need an answer quick LOL.. i really dont wanna pump my guards to fit my rims.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SKUNK2-06-08-Civic%2FSi-Rear-Camber-Kit-GD-FA%2FFG%2FFK%2FFN%2FFD_W0QQitemZ270383548812QQcmdZ ViewItemQQimsxZ20090502?IMSfp=TL0905021110007r4629

anyone tried these skunk 2 ones?

FallenAngel
18-05-2009, 05:14 PM
anyway...

has anyone got camber kits? where from and how much?
need an answer quick LOL.. i really dont wanna pump my guards to fit my rims.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SKUNK2-06-08-Civic&#37;2FSi-Rear-Camber-Kit-GD-FA%2FFG%2FFK%2FFN%2FFD_W0QQitemZ270383548812QQcmdZ ViewItemQQimsxZ20090502?IMSfp=TL0905021110007r4629

anyone tried these skunk 2 ones?

I have those brand new in a box on my shelf, AU stock purchased from jdmyard =) Interested? =P

ekdez
18-05-2009, 05:35 PM
yeah mate i could very well be.
i just need to make my decision on this http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2270579#post2270579

by any chance have you got the front camber kits too?
do they even make them?
know of n e other brands?

send me a pm on price and be honest into why you haven't installed them.. liek were there problems or something with fitment..

liquid23
18-05-2009, 07:46 PM
ok settle down boys.


its always a bonus to mod ur car and have ur girlfriend like it as well. :thumbsup:

Yes it is a bonus to have your girlfriend to like your car.


I agree with u, but what i was trying to say is that u shouldn't let your gf's decide what u do or don't do with your cars...if you u drive it and u like what u have done to it then that's it...let the gf worry about shopping and stay away from boys and their toys. Thats my opinion.

I was just asking for her opinion and that is what she said. There are always differences in this world. But she said that it is up to me in the end of what i want to do with it cause it is my car.

OK settled


Now....i've heard back from the dealer in singapore. The Mugen RR kit is around $4000 (he didn't specify what currency). The Mugen RR hood was $1100 (i'm guessing this is all in SGD). He also said that from what he remembered a local company from singapore shipped to australia once and it costed $1200 :thumbdwn:
i've replied to him saying how come the hood is so expensive and the shipping as well because i got my type R carbon hood for US$365 and shipping for that along with a HEAP of products costed me US$215 by sea from taiwan.

now awaiting to hear for some big discounts :p hopefully lol

*** heard back... apparently
As for the hood.. the price is expensive because it is Made in Japan (no brand) and it has a higher build quality and finishing. I have seen the taiwan type and the quality cannot make it.

If you r looking for a cheaper version, we have that too... price is also comparable to the Taiwan type but u need to install bonnet pin as a safety precaution.

cracker
18-05-2009, 09:30 PM
yeah lads that was the first 'altercation' in the FD thread. lets try nd make it the last.

ekdez
18-05-2009, 09:45 PM
rawr!

black8thgen
18-05-2009, 09:48 PM
really, i swear i read through one agesss ago lol

liquid23
18-05-2009, 10:13 PM
seems like the kit will be very expensive but i posted in the sg forums already to ask for other prices.
if all fails i'll get a mugen dominator kit.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6646/civicdom4wc6.jpg
http://images.paultan.org/dominator_front.jpg

ej20i
18-05-2009, 10:17 PM
DOMINATOR!!!sxc!!!

curtis265
18-05-2009, 11:08 PM
looks like the mazda 3 foggies

liquid23
19-05-2009, 12:26 AM
hehe yup. already trying to confirm on the product. i can get the Mugen RR kit for cheaper in a group buy.

Does anyone want a Carbon fiber Fuel cap replacement?
http://www.gmwebsite.com/upload/rstyleracing.com/product/fuel-cap-carbon-b.gif

Sherweeeny
19-05-2009, 12:27 AM
looks like the mazda 3 foggies

which in turn look much better than the facelift civic foggies

black8thgen
19-05-2009, 09:03 AM
how much for that dominator kit? looks hotttt lol.

ekdez
19-05-2009, 12:09 PM
looks hot, but have fun relaying your exhaust to the middle :o

ganj3
19-05-2009, 12:51 PM
hey liquid23 any chance they also sell the Mugen Lip kits?

Fung
19-05-2009, 05:47 PM
dam...i really want a RR kit, but i wont be able to save up for at least another year...


i guess ill live with stock for like a year or 2 =[

liquid23
19-05-2009, 07:31 PM
pm me if you want a dominator kit or mugen rr kit. i can get it for u (the kit comes spray painted to your car colour)

howy
19-05-2009, 07:34 PM
pm me if you want a dominator kit or mugen rr kit. i can get it for u (the kit comes spray painted to your car colour)

what about just the normal mugen kit?

liquid23
19-05-2009, 07:40 PM
what about just the normal mugen kit?

erm i should b able to get it as well. i'll need to confirm with dealer. its just harder to get mugen RR and dominator. this is coming from singapore btw. might b cheaper to get the mugen lip kit here in Australia. but i'll check


Also can get the INGZ kit.

ganj3
19-05-2009, 09:39 PM
cool thanks for checking it out for us. BTW what material are the kits made out of?

liquid23
19-05-2009, 09:42 PM
kits are made out of ABS.

is it ok for me to post a group buy thread here or i can't because i'm not a member yet?

howy
19-05-2009, 09:45 PM
kits are made out of ABS.

is it ok for me to post a group buy thread here or i can't because i'm not a member yet?

From memory... you have to be a trader here to start one.

ekdez
19-05-2009, 10:01 PM
needs to be done via pm.
various people who have posted group buys up have resulted in like a week ban or infraction or something..

liquid23
19-05-2009, 10:15 PM
ah oks, good thing i didn't hey haha

i got prices for Mugen RR kit, Mugen kit, Mugen Dominator kit and INGS kit.

All prices i give includes shipping to Australia, Spraying to the colour of you car and also the bodykit.

Please PM me ASAP if you are interested.
there is a fine print that i will PM you if you want to buy

aero
19-05-2009, 11:22 PM
oo damn INGS kit~!! that would be pretty sweet.. although they dont have a place for foggies :( does that come with the rear wing as well?

liquid23
19-05-2009, 11:28 PM
oo damn INGS kit~!! that would be pretty sweet.. although they dont have a place for foggies :( does that come with the rear wing as well?

no rear wing is seperate

http://www.gmwebsite.com/upload/rstyleracing.com/product/gt-wing-mugen-b.gif

liquid23
19-05-2009, 11:39 PM
I have spoiler prices for Type R
normal Mugen
INGS GT Wings

Waternmo
20-05-2009, 12:25 AM
can u PM me with a price of the 09 civic mugen kit excludin the wing? or can u get duck tail and how much? cheers

.k.
20-05-2009, 12:42 AM
+1 ducktail spoiler!

aero
20-05-2009, 03:11 AM
i saw that u just bought the mugen grille in the 'parts for sale' section, khoi. let me know when u get that in and go for the install... so then i can also get ur oem grille :p

rene
20-05-2009, 08:53 AM
Now....i've heard back from the dealer in singapore. The Mugen RR kit is around $4000 (he didn't specify what currency). The Mugen RR hood was $1100 (i'm guessing this is all in SGD). He also said that from what he remembered a local company from singapore shipped to australia once and it costed $1200 :thumbdwn:
i've replied to him saying how come the hood is so expensive and the shipping as well because i got my type R carbon hood for US$365 and shipping for that along with a HEAP of products costed me US$215 by sea from taiwan.

now awaiting to hear for some big discounts :p hopefully lol

*** heard back... apparently
As for the hood.. the price is expensive because it is Made in Japan (no brand) and it has a higher build quality and finishing. I have seen the taiwan type and the quality cannot make it.

If you r looking for a cheaper version, we have that too... price is also comparable to the Taiwan type but u need to install bonnet pin as a safety precaution.

This makes mine cheap ass lol its a good thing i got mine from Thailand :)

why dont you guys (whoever trying to get the RR kit) buy it from thai?
They copy it straight from the original RR kit .. you could even buy the full carbon fibre one's to which off course comes with a price :(

One thing tho guys, not to sound arrogant or anythin, when we are buying somethin cheap you cant expect for "it" to have the quality of something that is more expensive or the original stuff, we gotta compensate it somewhere. For my case my bonnet was cheaper in a way compare to say Js racing but I learn to accept the quality of my bonnet and dont even bother to compare it with anything else..

So in conclusion Good quality products comes with a price. If you want to buy something that guarantee looks good on your car you gotta willing to dig deep! If not learn to live with small defects.

.k.
20-05-2009, 10:20 AM
wow thanks for the essay! Jokes haha =P

Cliff notes - you get what you pay for.

liquid23
20-05-2009, 06:41 PM
haha yeah. my group buy for the kits are from thailand.

my CF hood is quite good. no defects at all. the person i got it from got it redone cause he wasn't happy with the quality he saw before he sent it to me :thumbsup:

liquid23
21-05-2009, 01:05 AM
any more buyers for Mugen RR kit, Type R, Mugen lip kit, INGS kit.

Dominator is a different kit. the picture a few pages back i have shown, the back bumper is different. Will try and see if dealer can get it when he is over there.

Type R grille , Mugen Grille in CF or plain

INGS gt spoiler, Type R grill (3pcs, centre carbon), Mugen spoiler, ducktail spoiler (looking for price now)

please PM me through my email, it is easier to sort out what you want and for myself to see if i have replied to you or not. i might have missed some people.
boxingtoy_29@hotmail.com

THX

.k.
21-05-2009, 02:10 PM
anyone know of a diy to install mugen grille into fd?

NZFD2
21-05-2009, 02:18 PM
k: i think shimian did a small diy at the start of this thread but the pics are gone and I can't remember which page it was specifically. if you're ok with a half guide then dmx did a grill change diy but it was for a type r grille which is in the diy forums

btw..where's dmx? haven't seen him post here lately

.k.
21-05-2009, 04:08 PM
aiight thanks mate, i'll have a look later. yeh dont need exactly a mugen grille, any will do - just so i get an idea.. like i cud just pull off the stock one but i wanna know what other people did i dont wreck mine incase aero needs it as a spare lol!

Shimian
22-05-2009, 01:05 AM
k: follow DMX's guide until you have removed the black plastic cover
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86111

Place the grille on the curve. It should sit nicely into place. All you need to do is to put the black plastic cover ontop of the mugen grille.

Important: When you put the screw into the middle hole, make sure you put ur hand under the black plastic cover and hold the hole of the mugen grille. When you push the screw back, make sure you push the hole on the grille upwards so that your mugen grille wont snap in the middle due to the force going down. The rest is straight forward and hard to damage.

Hard to explain, im happy to clarify further if you dont understand.

aero
22-05-2009, 03:29 AM
is there no need to place any kind of double-sided tape under the mugen grille to help the bottom sit on the curved bit of the bumper?

.k.
22-05-2009, 12:03 PM
i think i'll just double-side it anyway.. so it'll have 3m tape on the bottom, and its held in by screws on top/side.

black8thgen
22-05-2009, 05:29 PM
need your help guys =[ - i thuoght i blew the fuse on my ciggie plug but i checked all the fuses and their sweet, and checked for any lights or anything that wouldn't work, and yeah everything is fine so can't be a fuse. But now i don't know whats wrong with my ciggie lighter plug =[..

the way it broke was my stupid friend tried to test some led strips by putting an exposed neg wire to the pos terminal inside the ciggie lighter and vice versa.. then POP! CRACKLE! no more ciggie lighter =[.... anyone know how i can fix this? Should i just go to the dealer? but its such a hassle =[..

Shimian
22-05-2009, 07:28 PM
is there no need to place any kind of double-sided tape under the mugen grille to help the bottom sit on the curved bit of the bumper?

yea skipped that part. up to u how much u wanna put

FallenAngel
22-05-2009, 07:57 PM
i saw a fd at 6:50 at canley station. was a dark sorta colour. Anyone here cuz it looked nice.. Seems like its got wed sport rims

liquid23
25-05-2009, 01:27 AM
hey guys,

has anyone used Festoon SMD LED lights before?
i'm looking at High Power 2-LED Festoon bulb 30mm Cool White, for the interior lights. Are they really bright?

rene
25-05-2009, 10:16 AM
Cool looking FD with carbon bonnet and Type R wing!

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9510/78568516.jpg
Nice bonnet

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9214/60155299.jpg
Is it a real type R?

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7824/56298711.jpg

Guys eyes on the car please...I bet you dont even see what I typed in between lol.

black8thgen
25-05-2009, 10:44 AM
hey guys,

has anyone used Festoon SMD LED lights before?
i'm looking at High Power 2-LED Festoon bulb 30mm Cool White, for the interior lights. Are they really bright?

i use a white LED/SMD t10 bulb in the interior lights and their pretty bright i reckon, its like the special t10 bulb

ej20i
25-05-2009, 02:27 PM
u type something in between?!
lOL!
i just realised after i read the post!
hahahaha

rene
25-05-2009, 02:30 PM
Subliminal Message mate lol


u type something in between?!
lOL!
i just realised after i read the post!
hahahaha

6-SpeedManual
25-05-2009, 03:18 PM
FARK ME! the girl in the middle looks like Tia Tanaka!

aero
25-05-2009, 03:51 PM
that actually does look like a genuine fd2r... although it is hard to tell from the pictures.


FARK ME! the girl in the middle looks like Tia Tanaka!

dude, that is so true

liquid23
25-05-2009, 07:29 PM
i use a white LED/SMD t10 bulb in the interior lights and their pretty bright i reckon, its like the special t10 bulb

oks thanks for reply. I will get my festoon SMD lights soon. Will post up before and after shots.

*** BTW about the group buy, I have found a place that sells the RR kit cheaper than them. Less than SGD$3000 :thumbsup:
... gf still hates it :p

JOhnnyFD
25-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Cool looking FD with carbon bonnet and Type R wing!

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9510/78568516.jpg
Nice bonnet

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9214/60155299.jpg
Is it a real type R?

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7824/56298711.jpg

Guys eyes on the car please...I bet you dont even see what I typed in between lol.

mehh..

looks like genuine typeR.. if not, thats one hell of a replica

.k.
26-05-2009, 02:48 AM
just got mugen rep grille delivered this morning! auspost pulls thru again haha =D

need to get it prepped and painted though, any1 know colour code for nhbp? or i'll just check placard 2mor

ktvin09
26-05-2009, 09:23 AM
open pessenger door the color code is written there, it is B-92P

LoIo7
27-05-2009, 08:18 AM
hey guys. just wondering if the fd 09 tail lights would fit into an fd 07??

curtis265
27-05-2009, 11:22 AM
Should do.

d@vid
27-05-2009, 11:31 AM
Got the mugen grill installed last weekend, the hardest part was those clip at the bottom of the orginal grill.....hard to get off.....upside down......

.k.
27-05-2009, 11:49 AM
i hate the new tail-lights for the 09 fd's but each to their own.

LoIo7
27-05-2009, 12:18 PM
whats wrong with it? you just don't like the way it looks?

JOhnnyFD
27-05-2009, 12:32 PM
i think the rear lights look nice.. new 09 civics got the chrome lights

but i hate the new front grill for the 09 fd's

LoIo7
27-05-2009, 12:48 PM
Agreed!

so then it can fit into the 07?

.k.
27-05-2009, 03:46 PM
i dont like the hexagonal shape rear lights look yuck imo.. i do however like the new front bar =]

Brescia
27-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Heres how she sits now..
its missing the mugen grille + the carbon roof spoiler in this photo...going back on this week.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3631/img0046eju.jpg

ej20i
27-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Wow!!!!!!

FallenAngel
27-05-2009, 08:18 PM
And i thought the previous colour had too much contrast LOL

curtis265
27-05-2009, 10:07 PM
Guys, reckon it's possible to fit an 09 bumper onto the pre 09 FD's? They look fvckin good!

BC8
27-05-2009, 11:05 PM
red on black is a wow factor

would like to see the difference in person compared to the photos. looking more jdm!

nice indeed and unique

.k.
27-05-2009, 11:16 PM
fkn hawt as always. u still have that tow hook stickin out the back? =P

aero
27-05-2009, 11:23 PM
so, will the v-lip be coloured red as well to go with the wheels? :p