Your Mods To 2006-2011 FD Civics

[ekdez]

mm so these came today :)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1231/img0361dv.jpg

[Stig]

thnx for buying them for me, i owe you one :p

[ekdez]

haha you wish :D
and... because i hate teasers... i GOTT!!
CCW Classics with Brushed Bright Clear Anodized Face, Polished lips in street trim, no swiss cuts, full polished arp hardware, ccw engraved caps.. .. . that was a mouth full.. pretty custom ayy.. :thumbsup:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8510/img0363a.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7034/img0365v.jpg

[Stig]

specs?

[.k.]

so sexy

[ej20i]

yummmmmmmmmmm

[ekdez]

specs?

18x9 all =) offset = perfect ;)

[DuffyFD]

can't wait to see them on ur car. Picssssssssssssssss asap

[patchwick]

wow!!

[fitme]

nice nice!!...

[aero]

zomg... soo jealous!!. 18x9 +22? let me know when u get sick of them. lol
what tyres are u putting on them btw? 205? 215?

[Sherweeeny]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/51MPL/DSC01279.jpg?t=1292918132


mate no offence, but the LMs look horrible on a car with so much body, and so little profile on the tyres.

[ekdez]

zomg... soo jealous!!. 18x9 +22? let me know when u get sick of them. lol
what tyres are u putting on them btw? 205? 215?

Maybe 205/40 or 215/35 we shall see :)
Can always run 215/40 safely thou, it just depends on what tires are on offer :)

I want some mcgard nuts first thou, before I put them on :)

[aero]

^ nice! cant wait to see them on


mate no offence, but the LMs look horrible on a car with so much body, and so little profile on the tyres.

the only thing wrong with that picture is that .k.'s car is on stock suspension. they look fine once lowered. here are the same wheels on my car.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2z7g010.jpg

[Stig]

slammed ftw, btw aero did you cut the little tabs under the mugen lip off? or did it just shave off ahaha

[.k.]

mate no offence, but the LMs look horrible on a car with so much body, and so little profile on the tyres.

all good man, plz deposit money into my acc so i can get coils and it wont look so bad haha =]

[aero]

slammed ftw, btw aero did you cut the little tabs under the mugen lip off? or did it just shave off ahaha


lol.. those tabs have been scraped so much, im not sure how much them is still under the lip. car is no longer slammed tho. it had to be raised so much just to fit the rota grids and the fat tyres on them. had to take them off after 2 days. noise was too much. cant afford to buy a new set of tyres to stretch over them and some rear camber arms atm. so, enkeis are back on and the car is still sitting like a 4x4.

khoi. have u got any pics of my car with all 4 of the grids on?

[ekdez]

Spray the grids Takata green :)

[aero]

they're not mine lol. i was just trying them on. they're in .k.'s for sale thread tho.

[.k.]

need to find a better pic of all the grids on ur car aero.. i'll post wen i find it

[ekdez]

Driving in melboune is effort, I don't understand this hook turn business..

[Stig]

ahhahaha man i need to find my way up to syd, i dont wanna pay 450$ for a return flight, could add a bit more and just go to asia

[aero]

lol. did this happen to u, dez?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkuSm-NMws

[aznboiio1]

ahhahaha man i need to find my way up to syd, i dont wanna pay 450$ for a return flight, could add a bit more and just go to asia
drive 12 hours up :D

[eNGee]

wishing all my fellow FD comrades a very merry xmas and a safe and happy new year.

take care all. hope santa brings us lots of goodies for our civics lol.

[iou]

Is it cool ?
Carbon steering wheel

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2334/steeringwheelx.jpg

[ej20i]

fark yeah!
how much is that?

[Stig]

ey aero since you are up in QLD get barefootbanzai's te37 :)

[aero]

sure! u buying them for me as a late xmas gift? :p

ive got no money atm. rego, insurance, trip overseas, car service... replace engine mounts >.> :(

[iou]

fark yeah!
how much is that?

Its quite expensive. Around $1,200 included shipping
I am wondering, is this can be used for honda civic VTI because steering wheel mounted audio controls dont have on VTI.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2595/mg2864.jpg

[aero]

that is too much money for a steering wheel. i'd rather spend it on something else lol. however, im pretty sure that there is a kit to add the extra buttons on the steering wheel and have them wired up to the sound system in the vti civics.

[xenonkuraz]

Is it cool ?
Carbon steering wheel

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2334/steeringwheelx.jpg

I bought these carbon inserts. My wheel looks just like that ;)

[curtis265]

i love that steering wheel!!!

[TurBIce]

Its quite expensive. Around $1,200 included shipping
I am wondering, is this can be used for honda civic VTI because steering wheel mounted audio controls dont have on VTI.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2595/mg2864.jpg

thats sexy !
if i still had my FD :)

actually reckon it will fit on the CU2 euro :)

[iou]

that is too much money for a steering wheel. i'd rather spend it on something else lol. however, im pretty sure that there is a kit to add the extra buttons on the steering wheel and have them wired up to the sound system in the vti civics.

Thats not really expensive by itself. Just because of shipping cost. $900. Its included airbag inside

[iou]

I bought these carbon inserts. My wheel looks just like that ;)

100% sure you cant get that look even when you insert your carbon on, because of their shape. It looks sporty and very sexy

[xenonkuraz]

well i guess the sides are a bit different...but the carbon bits are the same!

[aero]

latest mod: 3 missing mugen tyre valve caps =[

getting the weirdest thieves around here. only 2 were taken from my old set of valve caps and now 3 taken from new set lol.

[dmx]

Hi guys... been long time hasn't posting any thread here :o
latest family member, ordered 9 months ago from japan, sit idle 3months, and go to customized for 3 months (DIY) :o
Backyard special gauge pod
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/FDMX/CIMG93881.jpg

customized to fit TPMS
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/FDMX/PC292401.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/PC292404.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/FDMX/PC292406.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/FDMX/PC292417.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/FDMX/PC292411.jpg

before : with customized Mugen gauge pod
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/P5201207.jpg

next member : Internet Multimedia GPS include customized dashboard (lower section) --> might takes months:(
have a good New Year guys !
:wave::wave::wave:

[eNGee]

WOW that looks fricken awesome. nice mod dmx! the carbon fibre is smick.

i would like to do more mods to my fd but my wife has put an end to it all after the exhaust =(

[ej20i]

how much was the tpms?
very interested

[aznboiio1]

latest mod: 3 missing mugen tyre valve caps =[

getting the weirdest thieves around here. only 2 were taken from my old set of valve caps and now 3 taken from new set lol.

ooo eemm geee wat retarts -.-"

[aero]

i think i'll sell my wheels...

[xenonkuraz]

ooo eemm geee wat retarts -.-"

they're only taking what they need

[fitme]

got some cheapy splits..
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/ozcity/carshow/infinity.jpg

[aznboiio1]

i think i'll sell my wheels...
wat rims you getting next?

[aznboiio1]

they're only taking what they need
prob, but still

[xenonkuraz]

prob, but still

once i had 4 nuts taken off one wheel on my r33. drove home from work and i heard clonk clonk clonk. kept driving for a bit lol and decided it was time to see what was up...my wheel was just about to fall off

[aero]

wat rims you getting next?

i dont know.. dont even know what to do with the car anymore. thinking of selling the lip kit as well :confused:

[Stig]

evo???

[ekay1]

Hey guys i got my rims.. FINALLY! and got them on, but ran into some issues. The front is scrubbing like no tomorrow and its starting to smell real bad. When me and my mate looked in the guard, it looked like the front one was already rolled sort of. Does it come already rolled or is it rollable?

[aero]

They are rollable but not much. Its nearly impossible to roll them fully flat like on nissans. U can also shave the inside a tiny bit. Are u still on stock suspension? What tyres are u running on them? Camber and stretch tyres are ur friend on the 8th gen.

Btw, post some pics please!!!

[ekay1]

Thanks for that Aero! I think i'll just try camber out the front and roll the rears, should be fine..... i hope. Pictures from phone. Hope you guys enjoy! Going for a photoshoot soon, i'll get some better pictures up then.
BEFORE:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1909/photo0116s.th.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/photo0116s.jpg/)
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4642/photo0115k.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/photo0115k.jpg/)
AFTER:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/931/photo0177d.th.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/photo0177d.jpg/)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7752/photo0184v.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/photo0184v.jpg/)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1927/photo0182e.th.jpg (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/photo0182e.jpg/)

[ekdez]

did you buy these rims off a dude with an evo? looks like a good evo fitment..
anyhow.. youre going to have to stretch tires on those to fit them in :)

[ekay1]

Nah, got them fresh from America for cheap so decided to snatch them. Wanted a better fitment and some concave compared to my previous rims. So Camber isnt going to fix the problem?

[ekdez]

what are the specs?
i fit 19x9.5+30 on my rear with 225/35r19 and -3.5 deg's camber or something and it still scrubs and i cut heaps of my body away, rolled heaps etc..
good luck anyway. its all fun and games :)

[Stig]

17x9+44?

what is there to do in syd for a day btw lol, besides the fish market!

[ekdez]

im excited :D
i found the box with the center caps in i then put one in :D

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2782/img0540v.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9899/img0538w.jpg

tires next week.
then on asap! :D:D:D:D:D

[Stig]

needs bags yo :p man that looks insane

[ekdez]

i would buy your bags if i wasnt gonna buy a new car this year :p
and move to melb too ahhaha
but if u drop your prices heaps before you go over seas i might be interested :P

[aznboiio1]

*sad face* fd's are dying out, you guys are getting new toys

[aero]

FDs arent dying out, people are just outgrowing them. besides from looks, they dont have much else to offer. it wont be long tho til these cars are cheap as chips and everyone starts engine swaping into them. they'll never be as light as an EG or EK, but they would still go hard with a k24 or k20a.

@dez - no need for bags, just dump ur n+ :p ... btw. lemme know when u wanna get rid of those CCWs ;) lol

[howy]

Stig: Fish markets and beaching... that'll be a nice relaxing day.

You could always go shopping and check out the new Westfield in the city.

[ekay1]

what are the specs?
i fit 19x9.5+30 on my rear with 225/35r19 and -3.5 deg's camber or something and it still scrubs and i cut heaps of my body away, rolled heaps etc..
good luck anyway. its all fun and games :)
Dam thats crazy! Mine are only 17x9+38 with 225/45/17 with natural camber. My car isnt dumped so im just going to roll the rear guards for now and camber the front and see how it runs. Cheers man, btw put the rims on already!!

17x9+44?

what is there to do in syd for a day btw lol, besides the fish market!
17x9+38, close though! Yeah.... just beach, shopping. Go to like Circular Quay if you like sightseeing and stuff.

*sad face* fd's are dying out, you guys are getting new toys
Aero just summed it up lol. I do believe though that they handle alot better and have as much potential as an EG or EK, just that its like 3x or 4x the price lol

[ekdez]

btw. lemme know when u wanna get rid of those CCWs ;) lol

ill let you know, but they wont be cheap LOL

[Stig]

i would buy your bags if i wasnt gonna buy a new car this year :p
and move to melb too ahhaha
but if u drop your prices heaps before you go over seas i might be interested :P

LOL depends on how much, pm me offer? need mollah to get my next car :p

[black8thgen]

yeh man fds r freaking slow as lol.. my fd2 with mods vs my friends fd1 stock is completely even til 2nd/3rd gear when i pull away.... sp23 shits on fd =[

[aero]

sp25 now y0~

[ekay1]

However, looks wise FD > sp25. Hows the ride on those?

[ekdez]

faster ahah
but i like my girlfriends new '10 red mazda 2 :D good car to nip around town in

[.k.]

wow just got bak from melb.. how do u liv there stig, ****s drive like retards sigh >.>

[threesix]

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/148a7ac5-2c62-40b6-9f9e-b003cae9b3c9.jpg

rear left

[threesix]

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/fa3c9d23-69fb-46b4-9910-56f63760574a.jpg


rear right

[threesix]

gheyness

[Stig]

wow just got bak from melb.. how do u liv there stig, ****s drive like retards sigh >.>

haha cos I live outside the CBD :p gonna experience SYD tmr morning, oh shiet

[aero]

gheyness

Talk about uneven camber wear lol. How long had the tyres been on the wheels?

[threesix]

over a year.

[ekdez]

lol wholey fk.. should have swaped them over haha

[ekay1]

Are kumho 31's rotatable??

[evolution]

KU31's are directional tyres (they must rotate in one direction only) so you can only swap them from front to back. Alternatively, to do left to right, you have to dismount the tyres from the rim and re mount them on the other side.

[DuffyFD]

that's the worst thing about camber.. what a waste of rubber :(

[threesix]

crazy thing is the car was going dead straight in a line. guess it pays to have regular wheel alignments yo.

[DuffyFD]

that reminds me - I have uneven camber on my front wheels. where can get camberbolts for the fd's? Whiteline?

[evolution]

Only know of 2 companies that do camber bolts. SPC Performance and Ingalls, both can be bought on eBay. I am using SPC for my front

[aero]

just sold my mugen lip kit :(
car looks fairly naked.. and theres a crap load of double sided tape around the car that i need to take off lol. that will take me a while to do..

[ekay1]

whyd you sell it Aero? Are you selling your car?

[aero]

Eh, just want a change to the look of it. Prob won't sell the car too soon unless some offers me money lol. I'll try n just go for the usdm look. No kit n just drop on wide wheels. I'll need to have a look at how much mud guards cost. Maybe roof racks? LOL

[ekdez]

do it :)

[xenonkuraz]

FDs arent dying out, people are just outgrowing them. besides from looks, they dont have much else to offer

I've come to this conclusion as well. Not driving the FD so much these days...

[DuffyFD]

aero if you find a good source for mud guards let me know.

I'm thinking of going mugen RR front and mud guards.

[aero]

using ebay as my only source... ive found these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mud-guard-Flap-Splash-Honda-Civic-FD-06-07-08-09-10-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b6ef4edeQQitemZ17057 2861150QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

which are fairly cheap.. but could be dodgy

they dont look exactly the same as the american ones:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-11-HONDA-CIVIC-4DR-MUD-FLAPS-SPLASH-GUARDS-NEW-OEM-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5641205fc2QQitemZ37045 9828162QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

the more expensive one seems to be longer on the rear mud guards... which is what i would prefer... but it costs so much more than the chinese ones:confused:

[Stig]

so they say the roads in syd are pretty fked, and yea... i do believe them, i dont know why the RTA doesn't spend money fixing up the roads,

fish market was awesome btw LOL

[ekay1]

Sydney roads are so crap ffs, scrubbing everywhere. Did you just go fish market?

[Stig]

LOL yeah didn't end up doing much really, just drove around, went to bankstown, found a random dfo on the way near homebush so we stopped there, wanted to check out cabramatta but was too far and didn't have time

was only in syd to get my new car ;) epic drive back though on mono flex coilovers i tell you

[vlixcool]

yeah man sydney road really f*cked gettin tired of pot hole and uneven road! i will get jeep or hummer for my next car lol

[Stig]

i also don't get why you guys have no right turn signs up like almost everywhere lol annoyed the hell outta us, had to do massive loops just to get into the street we want, and those forward facing fixed cameras, never seen them before

what i do like is how you guys have the speed sprayed on the road, its handy

[vlixcool]

lol you should see what happen in george street, couple of cars with interstate plates always turn left into tram lane because there is no sign at all.. dangerous lol!

[aznboiio1]

yeah man sydney road really f*cked gettin tired of pot hole and uneven road! i will get jeep or hummer for my next car lol

+1, roads = gg

[eNGee]

was only in syd to get my new car ;) epic drive back though on mono flex coilovers i tell you

what car did you get henry?

[curtis265]

it's not USDM to have no kit..

All the hellaflush 8thgen civics have their OEM kits on.

[aero]

Not the sedans. Most of the 4 doors have no kit and are just dumped

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4524703607_375698a407_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4701071727_005aa8e332_b.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/mute92/DSC01181-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/njcapone75/Sideways/DSC05764.jpg

http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/310.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4372035716_46a034d13e_o.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/mute92/164766_139814356073590_100001350780393_188322_6834 131_n.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/4701705998_7f488b5c04_b.jpg

but some do just have a front lip. but no sides or rear skirts

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1081/4602595043_e70bcea92a_o.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z216/deotherhalf/Car%20picture/IMG_3183copy.jpg

[Stig]

what car did you get henry?

04 evo viii mr

[DuffyFD]

lol try and roll a coke can under those! delish!

[curtis265]

Looks like i was wrong then! And that i haven't gone to 8thcivic for ages. They have the nicest things in america :(


obtw...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1081/4602595043_e70bcea92a_o.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z216/deotherhalf/Car%20picture/IMG_3183copy.jpg
These 2 have kits :P

[xenonkuraz]

That marone one is sex

[aero]

Yeah, but I did mention in the post that the last 2 have front lips. But no side and rear skirts

[DuffyFD]

maroon :P

[xenonkuraz]

i also don't get why you guys have no right turn signs up like almost everywhere lol annoyed the hell outta us, had to do massive loops just to get into the street we want, and those forward facing fixed cameras, never seen them before

what i do like is how you guys have the speed sprayed on the road, its handy

YEAH no right turns in the city mostly wtf!!! and parking is a bitch in sydney cbd.

[Stig]

the one way roads around the CBD tripped me out the most, saw cars parked on the RHS and was =\ haha

[xenonkuraz]

Guys I plan to buy a 67cm (L) x 4cm (D) alloy radiator el-cheapo ebay style for the FD. The reason being I want to free up some space from the front of the car to the engine bay for future mods...anyone had experience with these? Is it difficult mounting aftermarket radiators?

[curtis265]

LOL sorry aero, i fail

xenon, omg lol ru gonna mount it interfooler style?

[xenonkuraz]

Nah lol stock location just to the left...I want to make a ram intake feed from the grille to my ram pod

[asgr8]

Hey guys, I just brought back Honda DVD headunit from my home country ( Pakistan ). This is the system which is being installed their by Honda Pakistan in FDs on premium models. This is not the exact same model but very similar.

I followed a DIY and installed it yesterday. So far i am very satisfied with my purchase. Let me know what you guys think of it. It doesnt sound like Pioneer or Alpine, same or a bit better than stock but i was't expecting outclass quality anyway. It looks very clean and fits very well with the dash thats why o chose this one.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. :)

[aero]

Looks pretty good man. How much was it to buy?

[asgr8]

Looks pretty good man. How much was it to buy?

around 380 AUD

[ekay1]

Looks great man! Wouldnt mind one of those upgrades from the our stock ones.

[iou]

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[xenonkuraz]

Hi guys. Today I got bored and relocated my short ram to behind the battery. I then used a 1m piece of flexipipe ($35 from autobarn; ripoff) to route cold air from the lower front bumper grille straight to the ram pod.

Looks a bit dodgy atm with the pipe ziptied to the bumper :P still thinking of what I can use as a sort of 'bell mouth'...any ideas?

[curtis265]

Lol i never reckon those work, but worth a try. Use the end of a vuvuzela for a velocity stack

@asgr8, is that the same as the OEM-dealership-extra navi you can get here?

[DuffyFD]

i don't think it would be curtis265, looks different, plus i dont recognise the sd caard panel on the right, and for $380 i don't think it would be OEM.

[aznboiio1]

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lol inbox emptied now :D

[black8thgen]

getting an exhaust system.... whats the diff in getting a 60mm to getting a 70mm system? would the 70mm have less back pressure and therefore less performance? n which would be louder =/

[curtis265]

The general consensus is that 2.25"-2.5" is for NA setups, and >3" for turbo.

So... 60mm = 2.36", 70mm = 2.75". I'd go for the 60mm system. Loudness isn't really related to exhaust diameter.

[black8thgen]

but the smaller the diameter the greater the back pressure generally yeah? therefore better performance? theoretically..

[curtis265]

If it's too small, yes. If it's too large u get what's called a 'scavenging effect' which will make the velocity too slow at low RPM and won't have the natural 'pulling' effect of the exhaust waves from the right sized pipe.


We've seen quiet a few "experienced" racers tell people that a bigger exhaust is a better exhaust. Hahaha… NOT.

As discussed earlier, exhaust gas is hot. And we'd like to keep it hot throughout the exhaust system. Why? The answer is simple. Cold air is dense air, and dense air is heavy air. We don't want our engine to be pushing a heavy mass of exhaust gas out of the tailpipe. An extremely large exhaust pipe will cause a slow exhaust flow, which will in turn give the gas plenty of time to cool off en route. Overlarge piping will also allow our exhaust pulses to achieve a higher level of entropy, which will take all of our header tuning and throw it out the window, as pulses will not have the same tendency to line up as they would in a smaller pipe. Coating the entire exhaust system with an insulative material, such as header wrap or a ceramic thermal barrier coating reduces this effect somewhat, but unless you have lots of cash burning a hole in your pocket, is probably not worth the expense on a street driven car.

Unfortunately, we know of no accurate way to calculate optimal exhaust pipe diameter. This is mainly due to the random nature of an exhaust system -- things like bends or kinks in the piping, temperature fluctuations, differences in muffler design, and the lot, make selecting a pipe diameter little more than a guessing game. For engines making 250 to 350 horsepower, the generally accepted pipe diameter is 3 to 3 � inches. Over that amount, you'd be best off going to 4 inches. If you have an engine making over 400 to 500 horsepower, you'd better be happy capping off the fun with a 4 inch exhaust. Ah, the drawbacks of horsepower. The best alternative here would probably be to just run open
exhaust!

from http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscellaneous/exhausttheory.htm

[xenonkuraz]

Less backpressure -> less performance = myth

Assuming you don't go overboard with pipe diameter I.e 3" all the way on na

[DuffyFD]

Thinking of hooking up my hibeams as DRL's like here

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/lighting/53754-diy-drls-low-beams.html

or

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/lighting/167869-diy-drls-low-beams-no-switch.html

Has anyone tried this?

I'm currently using a 20W parking light bulb in the normal 5W slot, and I usually drive day / night with parkers on.

I'm thinking this DRL using a resistor and highbeams running at a percentage of their maximum could be cool though

thoughts?

[curtis265]

Haha, the DRL circuit isn't included in the audm FD's because it's not required by law and would be cheaper for honda to produce it without that extra 2m of wiring in it.

Basically, we don't have it, so it won't run on low power like DRL's should. (u cant add fuse 37 either.. i tried ages ago)

You cant use a 20W parker because that's going to set things on fire.

You cant use use a resistor on ur high beam because... to haev the DRL on you'd have to use ur highbeams, meaning the lowbeams will be on, meaning you lose highbeam functionality.

[DuffyFD]

Nah nah I'm talking about introducing a completely different circuit in.

just need to connect up:

- battery;
- switch / or connected to an accessories wire to turn them on automatically when key is turned;
- resistor ( to limit the current to the light - hence making it less bright)
- fuse (safety first)
- grounding.

So tapping a separate circuit connected to the high beams.

The only issue I can see is if you tried to turn the high beams on whilst the DRL's were on.. might blow the fuse / bulb.

Should work no?

[black8thgen]

anyone had experience with kakimoto exhaust?

[curtis265]

nah you can't introduce double the voltage, it won't work like that.
Still won't function right though.
I imagine tou'll need some sort of relay to turn the DRL circult off when you flick the high beam stalk.. Quite a lot of work involved. Perhaps call Honda USA and ask for the part?

[Stig]

i have one on my evo, its quite loud on the outside but its pretty quiet inside the car

[threesix]

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/fb87cc70-0afa-4676-af53-7511b12b69a2.jpg
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/f147dc90-3d9b-4254-8593-d7d3f22b17c2.jpg

[DuffyFD]

nah you can't introduce double the voltage, it won't work like that.
Still won't function right though.
I imagine tou'll need some sort of relay to turn the DRL circult off when you flick the high beam stalk.. Quite a lot of work involved. Perhaps call Honda USA and ask for the part?

http://www.amazon.com/VDC-Automotive-Relay-SPDT-40A/dp/B0002KR9GG/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1285256061&sr=1-14

think this would work..

[black8thgen]

hows the performance of the kakimoto stig? and does it soudn nice loud or dirty loud lol

btw is that why u came down to syd? to pick up an evo? =O... pics =D??

[asgr8]

Lol i never reckon those work, but worth a try. Use the end of a vuvuzela for a velocity stack

@asgr8, is that the same as the OEM-dealership-extra navi you can get here?

No its not OEM, Its basically chinese brand but with the same look.

[ej20i]

smaller diameter the louder, the bigger diameter the deeper the exhaust note will be
kakimoto exhaust are exactly what stig says, loud outside and comfortable inside

[ekdez]

anyone live at teh gold coast or near it, wanna kindaly tell me how the weather is?
i have a plane and hotel booked for this thursday to sunday. :O
pm me... so we dont clog up this forum :)

[.k.]

pm sent dez

[aero]

hahaha! i sent him one too :cool:

[Stig]

took my front bar off for the very last time i hope, removed my hid kit :)

[.k.]

damn u parting out stiggy?

[aero]

saw u driving at oxley today khoi. i was checkin out the flood waters lol

[ekdez]

Killing time in Sydney airport, on route to gold coast :)

[Stig]

damn u parting out stiggy?

been parting out for a while :(


Killing time in Sydney airport, on route to gold coast :)

a few of my mates headed up there this week, should be alright

[.k.]

lol i just left goldy to go to bris; and had to cancel my flights to syd ;(

have fun down there man, how long u comin up for

[DuffyFD]

don't get flooded...

[.k.]

i think goldy is fine.. worst hit is up north & ipswich then into brisbane.. still 75% of qld is flooded

[fitme]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/ozcity/carshow/modulo.jpg

[ekay1]

Sort of looks like the mugen pedals lol. Modulo looks fine, pricey? looks good man

[fitme]

^ only $100 from overseas...its an oem for civic made by modulo...

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s273/yomiuri_photos/sportspedal1.jpg

[ekay1]

Man that looks sweet, may i ask where you got it from?

[fitme]

^ bought it a few months ago from philippines and got a free shipping cause my cousin just went back here in au...
they got heaps of oem goodies there and prices are cheap....the only problem is the shipping cost...



next item i will purchase is the leather hood protector...i can purchase up to 2 item only...

[ekay1]

Ahh i see. Dam, thought i could grab them off the net or something. Lucky you

[DuffyFD]

Planning to make some led interior and exterior lighting linked to the dome light wiring. possibly puddle lights etc that turn on under the door handles when you hit the unlock button.

Something like this pic

http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339296323/bmw-320i_7.jpg

Has anyone done this?

[ekdez]

next item i will purchase is the leather hood protector...i can purchase up to 2 item only...

any chance you could tell me how much they are? Ive always wanted one :)

[fitme]

^ will let you know.....


possibly puddle lights etc that turn on under the door handles when you hit the unlock button.you mean the courtesy light?..yeah FD has an oem kit for this...but not under the handle..its under the door panel

[black8thgen]

is it hard to install the courtesy lights? i assume u could just be a cheapo and stick led strips underneath =P and wire it to the fuse for when the door opens?

[curtis265]

Yeh that's how i'd do it. Or at least drill a hole in the handle and put a 1W T10 in it

obtw guys, u can buy pedals from a company called strutking. It's where i got mine from

[fitme]

blackgen...this is what i found at 8thgen...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/mregor55/06052009263.jpg

There are only 2 harness present on the BLUE connector below Fuses 1 to 4

Pin#17 (Light Blue) Fuse#22 - connect your (+) supply here
Pin#18 (Pink) Interior Light Control - connect your (-) supply here

[DuffyFD]

Courtesy lights are definitely doable - but would mean taking the door cards off i think.

If i had it my way when you unlock the doors, the tail lights, courtesy lights, DRL's and door lights would come on. When you turn the engine on, they would all turn off, except the DRLs and the tail lights.

That's a big few jobs though.

1. Running DRLs (Can be done from running trigger wires from the radio power wire or accessories, and from the courtesy lights, and a relay to switch between them both.
2.Tail lights run from the same circuit as the DRL's
3. Courtesy lights off the door light trigger wire.

I think it would be worth it though - definitely at night!

[aero]

Got a quote from my Honda dealer today on mud guards. They're $130. Also got a quote on a set of engine mounts $942 + $60 for screws and bolts...

[fitme]

^ is that $130 for 4 mudguards?..body colored?

[aero]

Yes $130 for 4. $65 for front pair and $65 for rear pair. Not sure about colour though. i'm pretty sure they're only the standard black colour... I didn't ask about colour. I'm only after plain black anyway

[ekay1]

Got a quote from my Honda dealer today on mud guards. They're $130. Also got a quote on a set of engine mounts $942 + $60 for screws and bolts...

ouch 1k for engine mounts.

[aero]

yeah.. and it doesnt even include the cost of labour. ill just have to book it into a garage to have a thorough look as to which specific mount/s need replacing, so i dont have to spend as much. im sure i wont need all of them to be replaced.

[DuffyFD]

sounds like a goer. :) Too bad about the mounts, have you thought of aftermarket? or even custom?

[aero]

i would. if i knew of anywhere that sell aftermarket or do custom mounts for the r18.

[threesix]

noob question!.... whats wrong with your normal engine mounts?

i mean how can yours in a newish car be dead already?

[fitme]

the side engine mount(replacement) cost only less than $50 overseas....might buy this instead of that pricy oem ones...and it will last the same as the oem

found one at ebay...:)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-07-08-09-10-Honda-Civic-1-8-Right-Engine-Motor-Mount-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem519741f746QQitemZ35043 0033734QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries


http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/Emong333/FD%20tech/side%20engine%20mount%20replacement/IMG_4705.jpg
left is the replacement only not oem
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/Emong333/FD%20tech/side%20engine%20mount%20replacement/IMG_4698.jpg

[black8thgen]

cheers fitme!

btw anyone wanna buy white sport rims? =D

[threesix]

how much you selling for?

[DuffyFD]

cheers fitme!

btw anyone wanna buy white sport rims? =D


how much you selling for?

I'd keep to PM's otherwise Mods get shitty.

[aero]

the side engine mount(replacement) cost only less than $50 overseas....might buy this instead of that pricy oem ones...and it will last the same as the oem

found one at ebay...:)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-07-08-09-10-Honda-Civic-1-8-Right-Engine-Motor-Mount-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem519741f746QQitemZ35043 0033734QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries


http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/Emong333/FD%20tech/side%20engine%20mount%20replacement/IMG_4705.jpg
left is the replacement only not oem
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/Emong333/FD%20tech/side%20engine%20mount%20replacement/IMG_4698.jpg

had a look on ebay and ebay motors, but all of these are in america and do not ship outside the country. ive already ordered mounts to be replaced anyway. it'll cost about $700 just for the left and right mounts. hopefully i they will delivered by tomorrow so i can get them swapped straight away. if not, i'll have to wait til next week.

in other news... i called honda parts again today to ask about mud guards and the price had magically come down to $118 for a full set. only yesterday i called the same place and they told me $130. anyway, i bought them today for $118.. i'll try to put them on when i get some spare time

[fitme]

modulo releases a new kit for the 09-10 civic

http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-11-jpg.jpg
http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-09-jpg.jpg
http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-05-jpg.jpg

[itachi-kun]

Can the 06-08 model use the rear lip?


modulo releases a new kit for the 09-10 civic

http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-11-jpg.jpg
http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-09-jpg.jpg
http://thaiautomedia.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-civic-modulo-2010/honda-civic-fd-modulo-2010-05-jpg.jpg

[patchwick]

wow.. yep..that should fit

[threesix]

those side skirts are hideous. whole kits not much chop.

[curtis265]

Taht looks decent!

I still like the prefacelift out of the moduolo's though

[fitme]

hmm whats the triangle thing on the right part of the grill??..i prefer this kit than the first one.....they made the front lip 1 piece from end to end

[ekdez]

so much for a lip kit.. it only adds like 2 cm's worth of body LOL

[ks_b]

rear should fit but front won't coz mugen 09 kit front don't fit 08

[ekay1]

The new mugen kit looks like the modulo ones are the front. The skirts on the new modulo kit are.... getting ricey

[FDBenni]

looks like modulo tried to copy mugen with the rear diffuser and the front lip looks similiar to the FL mugen lip

[DuffyFD]

imo the 09-10 civics look shit - as soon as they changed their foglights to the older accord euro style ones, the car looks less mean.

As for the back, the rear diffuser thing is okay.

The skirts and front lip are rubbish though.

[ekdez]

ccw. check!
tires. check!

[ekdez]

i need me a set of these mc gards :D

Gold - SplineDrive Clamshell (Cone Seat)
Contains Tuner wheel locks, key, SplineDrive lug nuts, installation tool

[black8thgen]

pics - NOT CHECK

[ekdez]

mounting them tomorrow morning haha hang 10!

anyone know of a australian dist of mc gards?

[aero]

.k. got his for about $80 online. cant remember the website he showed me tho =\

[eNGee]

Got some new shoes too ^_^. Enkei SC07.

Tyres = strip & swap tomorrow, current DC5 Type S rims = on $ale via Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-17-Inch-DC5-Type-S-wheels-only-/250760695262?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a62808dde

pics coming soooon...

[fitme]

^ any chance you can ship it to sydney?

[.k.]

i bought online and got them shipped dez..

hitup 'the lug shack'

[eNGee]

^ any chance you can ship it to sydney?

hey fitme - at this stage no, as I'd prefer a local buyer. But we shall see. If no1 is keen for a while, I might sell them to ya. cheers

[black8thgen]

Hey guys just confirming the exhaust layout for fd1 and fd2 is exactly the same yes?

[DuffyFD]

Hey guys just confirming the exhaust layout for fd1 and fd2 is exactly the same yes?

If it's a catback, then yep. If it's including the cat, I'm not 100% but i'd assume so.

It's a mass produced car, they're not gonna change the exhaust layout for 200cc engine difference :P

[ekdez]

am i looking at the correct thread sizes?

M12 x 1.5

[eNGee]

Before

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae213/eric_2730/DSCF1776.jpg

After

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae213/eric_2730/DSCF1777.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae213/eric_2730/DSCF1779.jpg

[aero]

are they 18s? that model looks so much like the fn2r wheels


am i looking at the correct thread sizes?

M12 x 1.5

that is correct

[ekdez]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/558/img0629wh.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3914/img0631re.jpg

excited :D

[aero]

NICE! btw. are the tyre sizes the same all around? it looks like the front 2 have more lip exposed than the rear ones in the photo?
are u allowed to give us the official specs of the wheels and tyres now?

[eNGee]

are they 18s? that model looks so much like the fn2r wheels

nah, they're 17s... now that I think about it, they do look very similar to the fn2r wheels hehe. who ripped off who !?!?! =P

[black8thgen]

fn2r rims are enkeis arent they lol... just rebadged by honda.. just like the fd2 rims lol.. so theyre probably exactly the same wheel

[curtis265]

enkei makes almsot all the oem rims

[ekdez]

NICE! btw. are the tyre sizes the same all around? it looks like the front 2 have more lip exposed than the rear ones in the photo?
are u allowed to give us the official specs of the wheels and tyres now?

nah all the same 215/40r18
and 18x9 +2x :P

gonna throw them on now haha

[aero]

pix!1!!

[ekdez]

only joking.. im waiting for my nuts :P but i trial fitted and im so impressed

[Atjo]

Not enough dish dez :p should've gone crazy fitment like my new rims hehe

[Stig]

omg dan, must, meet, up, one, day, so, you, can, show, off!

[threesix]

damm ballers! im stunting pretty hard with the rims i have on atm LOL!!
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/cf5011a9-e580-4186-af1b-7668ee959603.jpg

[Atjo]

omg dan, must, meet, up, one, day, so, you, can, show, off!

The rims haven't arrived yet. Will let you know.

[aerithyn]

Finally the stupid rr kit will be done in a week ^_^. EXCITED !!!

[aero]

nice. what colour is ur car?

[aerithyn]

nice. what colour is ur car?


White

Don't know if I should change setup of the exhaust or just stick the dummy on. Heard I'd feel the car just slow down by alot if actually changed to dual exhaust.

[Stig]

car is already slow to begin with, i'll say do it for looks :D

[aerithyn]

car is already slow to begin with, i'll say do it for looks :D


But then it will be like a Toyota echo :(

What I'm really worried about is WINTERS COMING UP SHORTLY !! looks chat with smoke coming from right side only LOL!!

[ekay1]

Stig is right, just go for the looks. At least the FD is good at something. You from Burwood :O perhaps i shall see your car around then when it has the kit on. Shouldnt have to worry too much about the smoke unless its freezing lol

[curtis265]

Don't diss it guys, the FD is a fantastic car for what it is, the R18 is a great engine for it's intended purpose. The torque is all down low which is really good - took me a while of getting used to a H22Z to realise appreciate driving the FD. Don't get me wrong, the H22 is definitely faster overall (and a lot more powerful) but i'm already sick of having to drop gears and wait until i reach 5200ish rpm to overtake...

top end sux though, but it's a daily :)

[aerithyn]

Stig is right, just go for the looks. At least the FD is good at something. You from Burwood :O perhaps i shall see your car around then when it has the kit on. Shouldnt have to worry too much about the smoke unless its freezing lol

Yeh guess I should change to dual exhaust then. Burwood nsw?? Or Burwood wherever stig is from?? You can't miss my plate ekay it's FD RR !!!

[DuffyFD]

Yeh guess I should change to dual exhaust then. Burwood nsw?? Or Burwood wherever stig is from?? You can't miss my plate ekay it's FD RR !!!

Aerithyn, where did you source your rr kit from? Mars Performance or something?

[ekay1]

Don't diss it guys, the FD is a fantastic car for what it is, the R18 is a great engine for it's intended purpose. The torque is all down low which is really good - took me a while of getting used to a H22Z to realise appreciate driving the FD. Don't get me wrong, the H22 is definitely faster overall (and a lot more powerful) but i'm already sick of having to drop gears and wait until i reach 5200ish rpm to overtake...

top end sux though, but it's a daily :)
Not Dissing the FD man, i never regret purchasing the FD :) love the car. You have a good point though, it is a GREAT daily in my opinion too. Just saying that the looks overrides the performance.


Yeh guess I should change to dual exhaust then. Burwood nsw?? Or Burwood wherever stig is from?? You can't miss my plate ekay it's FD RR !!!

Yeah bro NSW. FD RR???? Ive you seen around!!!! I hang around strathfield alot and drop by Burwood every now and then if im bored or need to go shopping at westfield lol. I'll be on the look out for you

[aerithyn]

Aerithyn, where did you source your rr kit from? Mars Performance or something?

Nah worried there stuff is crap. Yonis and Dave from Jdm yard got me one from US but don't know if they'd do it again. Pick up car from JDMYARD MONDAY WHOOO!!!


Yeah bro NSW. FD RR???? Ive you seen around!!!! I hang around strathfield alot and drop by Burwood every now and then if im bored or need to go shopping at westfield lol. I'll be on the look out for you

Don't look out for me. Pm me your number and let's go cruising =] !!! I live in Burwood usually around Strathfield or city !!!

[black8thgen]

might be seeing ur car around stratty area then haha cant miss it ey

[aerithyn]

might be seeing ur car around stratty area then haha cant miss it ey
You from stratty too? Fk we need to organise a mini cruise !!!! Well all park at the carpark behind pumpkin till someone gets fined.

[ekay1]

might be seeing ur car around stratty area then haha cant miss it ey
Really?? Show us a picture of your car, ill be on the lookout.


You from stratty too? Fk we need to organise a mini cruise !!!! Well all park at the carpark behind pumpkin till someone gets fined.
Yeah lol. Organise one dude, i'll love to come along. I always park behind pumpkin, heading there today as well, or plaza if its shit packed

[ekdez]

Not enough dish dez :p should've gone crazy fitment like my new rims hehe

haha! what'd you get? pm me if you want.
the ccw has 2.5" dish. that's enuf for FD :P
next car i will be abke to fit DISH! i hope haha

[black8thgen]

lol i always park at 7/11 street car park, fk plaza... got stuck in there once cos of the time limit and had to use a trolley to get out ROFL.

my car is just black fd2 with white rims and full mugen kit, carbon hood, i doubt you'll miss me

[ekay1]

lol i always park at 7/11 street car park, fk plaza... got stuck in there once cos of the time limit and had to use a trolley to get out ROFL.

my car is just black fd2 with white rims and full mugen kit, carbon hood, i doubt you'll miss me

Oh wth. HAHAH, i did that last time and some security guy came up and told us off as he was watching on the camera. I'll keep an eye out. Btw, isnt the 7/11 carpark dodgy...? I've heard of peoples cars getting smashed and stuff there

[black8thgen]

hmm yeah it kinda is but so far ive had no problems...... it does seem a bit dodgy tho LOL.. but i park there til like 3am and no probs yet =/.. but pumpkin carpark prob safer.. haha

[aerithyn]

hmm yeah it kinda is but so far ive had no problems...... it does seem a bit dodgy tho LOL.. but i park there til like 3am and no probs yet =/.. but pumpkin carpark prob safer.. haha


Pm me ur number bro cruise next week !!

[aero]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5247/5242778719_399242df35_o.jpg

fk i love this car. i need to buy another mugen front lip and grille now lol

[DuffyFD]

droooooooooooooooooolll...

if anyone is parting out a lip kit, shotgun on it.

[black8thgen]

fkkk thats sexy..... btw duffy i might be selling my rear mugen lip kit soon if ur interested lol

[DuffyFD]

yah pm me :)

[Atjo]

haha! what'd you get? pm me if you want.
the ccw has 2.5" dish. that's enuf for FD :P
next car i will be abke to fit DISH! i hope haha
I'll keep it quite until the rims have arrived. What i can tell is it's 19", not brand new & heaps more dish than my current one hehe

[ekdez]

sounds good dan! ill keep my eyes peeeeled


P.s : anyone who drives an FD, know if the clip on mugen visors are well worth the money compared to the stick on fake ones? like is it worth it?

nvm, im gonna order the real ones off jdmyard :) hope they are an easy install =]

can you tell the mod bug has kicked again :D

next on the list is the foggies then maybe hid's :D

then maybe stig or ivans old air sus haha

[ej20i]

u never had HIDs in ur FD?

[curtis265]

lol i thought HID's was the minimal?

[PLY44]

havent made a post for awhile.

also got a j's racing exhaust muffler which is hidden. pretty small. <_<.

alpine speakers amp and subs.

hope you guys like it.

[ekdez]

u never had HIDs in ur FD?

nup and thats why ive never been defected or been in a crash :p

[aero]

havent made a post for awhile.

also got a j's racing exhaust muffler which is hidden. pretty small. <_<.

alpine speakers amp and subs.

hope you guys like it.

nice to see uve already resprayed and fitted my kit. now give me back my front lip! lol

[aero]

ohhh shiett

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/5259948918_66cfbbc451_z.jpg

[aerithyn]

Hey guys im planning on changing our fd's weak little r18 engine to k20a or k24a anyone knows the rough prices?

[.k.]

how long is a piece of string.. how much do u know about engines? are you doing anything yourself? Is the shop doing everything neeed more info mate..

r u gonna run stock k engine or what man.. its not even worth the time/effort/money to put money into the chassis to make it 'perform' tbh... like do you have ~15k to do the engine swap? + extra for suspension & engine mods + a tune etc etc etc $$$

looks alrite johnny but did u spray can it or some shit? that black looks flat?

[curtis265]

ur LED's are wobbly..

[Stig]

Hey guys im planning on changing our fd's weak little r18 engine to k20a or k24a anyone knows the rough prices?

~20k, hence not many people have done them, unless you have a method of sourcing the engine for cheap and not buying the whole fn2r chassis just for the engine, then it would be significantly cheaper


sounds good dan! ill keep my eyes peeeeled


P.s : anyone who drives an FD, know if the clip on mugen visors are well worth the money compared to the stick on fake ones? like is it worth it?

nvm, im gonna order the real ones off jdmyard :) hope they are an easy install =]

can you tell the mod bug has kicked again :D

next on the list is the foggies then maybe hid's :D

then maybe stig or ivans old air sus haha

you can tell the difference between the rep and gen ones, if you see clip holes then its gen, if its smooth all round and stuck on just with 3m tape then its fake.

haha buy mine buy mine! its all boxed up and sitting in my lounge room with my whole sound system -_-

[ekdez]

you got the genuine ones?
pm me your price to 2903.

[aerithyn]

how long is a piece of string.. how much do u know about engines? are you doing anything yourself? Is the shop doing everything neeed more info mate..

r u gonna run stock k engine or what man.. its not even worth the time/effort/money to put money into the chassis to make it 'perform' tbh... like do you have ~15k to do the engine swap? + extra for suspension & engine mods + a tune etc etc etc $$$

looks alrite johnny but did u spray can it or some shit? that black looks flat?


know about engines = 0

already using t1r coils. willing to spend 20k max on the whole thing but not sure if thats enough to actually get a decent speed out of the fd since i cannot turbo until im on full license which is like another 1 year [due to being suspended 4 times] . And the bitch is i dont wanna part with the car for too long :( !!


~20k, hence not many people have done them, unless you have a method of sourcing the engine for cheap and not buying the whole fn2r chassis just for the engine, then it would be significantly cheaper

20k is that everythign done or just the stock swap ??

[curtis265]

holy crap if you've got that money to burn why don't u just buy another car?

[aero]

that is probably just for swapping a stock k20 from an fn2r into ur fd. it will probably cost a bit more for a fully built motor. it may be cheaper if u try to source a k24 instead from a crashed euro or sumthing.