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FallenAngel
18-10-2008, 08:10 AM
Yea i've heard of the supercharger for the FD2 (unfortunately) although i remember something about them saying its like a weaker version from the RR.
(Don't quote me on that one!)

cracker
18-10-2008, 08:51 AM
sorry i dnt have a link but i still think $3K is good 4 a turbo kit

ej20i
18-10-2008, 04:15 PM
nice ride turbice...come to the next meet man

rk 86 wa
18-10-2008, 06:51 PM
damn if not for this recession, that procivic turbo kit could be affordable haha >.<

Phlirt
18-10-2008, 09:57 PM
hey guys...put some 20" K-Speed Biaggi's on my FD2 today. Lowered 3 inch in the front and 3 1/2 in the rear. Sits nice and low and no scrubbing at all! Even have full lock in steering!! Washing the car tomorrow and ill have pics up

TurBIce
18-10-2008, 10:52 PM
nice ride turbice...come to the next meet man

Thanks mate
ive been twice. but back when the car was stock as. and the otehr time i turned up in my friends euro.

will come to the next one !!!

cracker
19-10-2008, 07:31 AM
hey guys...put some 20" K-Speed Biaggi's on my FD2 today. Lowered 3 inch in the front and 3 1/2 in the rear. Sits nice and low and no scrubbing at all! Even have full lock in steering!! Washing the car tomorrow and ill have pics up

20s hahah **** i gotta see this!

ej20i
19-10-2008, 06:05 PM
20s??yea of corz it wont rub...as long as u have the rite offset...

amurray
19-10-2008, 06:37 PM
7.5 dont srub... but if u get 8.5... like me :P.... it takes a bit of fine tuning to get rid of it

ekdez
19-10-2008, 08:37 PM
hey i just bought a fd hey...

wondering what the best widths and offsets for 19"s are..

like i know i want 19's yeah.. but.. the offset is the thing im wondering about..

whats the lowset offset i can have on the back without having to pump or flare my guards, and also the lowest possible offset on the front without having to flare my guard and scrub to much....

thanks for ya help :)

tonz
20-10-2008, 11:13 AM
there has been a supercharger for the 8th gen with K20(a?) out in the US for a while now.. and 3 or so turbo kits for the R18a engine.

I'd love a supercharger for the R18a... though technically superchargers aren't so well suited for sub 2'ish litre engines.

Got a link for the FD supercharger? It's prolly for the FD2 right?

Here are a few links

The company that makes them is called Comptech & yes its for the FD2.

http://www.ct-engineering.com/store/CivicSiSC

http://www.autocarparts.com/part/1543/26/

denot
20-10-2008, 03:48 PM
those are for Civic Si... are they using the same engine as FD? (i kno this has been discussed be4 but cant remember the answer :p)

rk 86 wa
20-10-2008, 04:03 PM
i was wrong LOL

denot
20-10-2008, 04:04 PM
hum hum hum... so the turbocharger is a no no?

tonz
20-10-2008, 04:08 PM
it goes straight on, or so i was told, i know cause i enquired about it. Apparantly its a direct bolt on.

rk 86 wa
20-10-2008, 04:26 PM
are you sure they arent confusing the aussie delivered fd2 with the american delivered acura csx which actually has the same engine as the american civic si?

tonz
20-10-2008, 04:35 PM
i'm only going based on what i was told when i enquired about it for my car...and are you sure that the CSX does not have the same specs as the aussie fd2...i know that the CAI for the CSX is the right fit for the aussie fd2 and if they didn't have the same engine this wouldn't be the case...right???

rk 86 wa
20-10-2008, 04:51 PM
ah sorry should have made myself clearer, was saying the csx comes out in a type s version which shares the same k20z3 engine as the si, and the our civic sports uses the z2

but yah i dunno they are both for the civic si lol. best bet is to wait till someone in aus does it first and if it works follow his lead haha



from wiki:


K20Z2

* Found in:
o 2006- Acura CSX (Canada)
+ Displacement: 1998 cc
+ Compression: 9.6:1
+ Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm (SAE net J1349 Rev 8/04)
+ Torque: 139 ft&#183;lbf (188 N&#183;m) @ 4500 rpm / 188 N&#183;m @ 4200 rpm (Singapore)
+ Redline: 6800 rpm
o 2006- Honda Civic (JDM)
+ Displacement: 1998 cc
+ Compression: 9.6:1
+ Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm
+ Torque: 139 ft&#183;lbf (188 N&#183;m) @ 4500 rpm
+ Redline: 6800 rpm
o 2006- Honda Accord Sport(Europe)
+ Displacement: 1998 cc
+ Compression: 9.6:1
+ Power: 155 hp (114 kW) @ 6000 rpm
+ Torque: 139 ft&#183;lbf (188 N&#183;m) @ 4500 rpm
+ Redline: 6800 rpm

[edit] K20Z3

This inline-4 cylinder internal combustion engine is found in the US market Honda Civic Si (2006+) & Canadian market Acura CSX Type-S. It has an aluminium block with an aluminium head, and a bore and stroke of 86 mm*86 mm, resulting in a 2.0 Liter displacement.

* Found in:
o 2006-2008 Honda Civic Si (FG2 - Coupe & FA5 - Sedan), 2007 Acura CSX Type-S
+ Displacement : 1998 cc
+ Compression : 11.0:1
+ Power: 197 bhp (147 kW) @ 7800 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
+ Torque: 139 ft&#183;lbf (189 N&#183;m) @ 6200 rpm (sae NET Rev 8/04)
+ Redline: 8200 rpm
+ i-VTEC Engagement Window: 6200 RPM (1st to 2nd gear). 5800 RPM (3rd to 6th gear).

[edit] K20Z4

This inline-4 cylinder internal combustion engine is found in the redesigned Honda Civic Type-R (FN2). It has an aluminium block with an aluminium head, and a bore and stroke of 86 mm*86 mm, resulting in a 2.0 Liter displacement.

* Found in:
o 2007 Honda Civic Type-R (FN2) (Europe Market)
+ Displacement : 1998 cc
+ Compression : 11.0:1
+ Power: 197 bhp (201 PS, 148 kW) @ 7800 rpm
+ Torque: 142 ft&#183;lbf (193 N&#183;m) @ 5600 rpm
+ Redline: 8200 rpm
+ 16V DOHC I-VTEC changes from low speed cams to high speed cams at 5,400 RPM


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K20Z3

bodaas
20-10-2008, 04:51 PM
for usdm 06-08 civic si, i am pretty sure z series

they using k20z3 in it

tonz
20-10-2008, 05:06 PM
yeah thats why i stopped asking and will wait and see if someone in oz does it first.

FallenAngel
22-10-2008, 09:43 AM
ah sorry should have made myself clearer, was saying the csx comes out in a type s version which shares the same k20z3 engine as the si, and the our civic sports uses the z2



I'm pretty sure the AUDM civics use the K20Z3 also...

andyhui01
22-10-2008, 09:58 AM
I'm pretty sure the AUDM civics use the K20Z3 also...

So you're saying AUDM Sports have 140 or so kw? lol

jeromerae
22-10-2008, 10:01 AM
the AUDM civic spot has the k20z2 - 114kw

the integra luxury recieved the k20z3 - 140kw

denot
22-10-2008, 10:07 AM
the AUDM civic spot has the k20z2 - 114kw


which means the same as Acura CSX? so if the parts is ok for CSX, then FD2 can use it, right?

jeromerae
22-10-2008, 10:31 AM
i assume so, same engine, same look ... only difference i can think of is its left hand drive

rk 86 wa
22-10-2008, 11:11 AM
yah im just going by wiki (which may not be 100&#37;)

tonz
22-10-2008, 11:23 AM
yeah i was told that the CSX is the same also as the AUDM civic FD2...you can't trust wiki sometimes cos its users like you and I that put info on that, so any tom, dick and harry can put up what they like.

rk 86 wa
22-10-2008, 11:31 AM
yup about wiki, but i think everyone is getting confused with the csx and the csx type-s which have two different motors.

csx shares the k20z2 with our fd2 and the csx type-s has the k20z3 same as the civic si luls

anyways cant wait till next barbagellos track day woo! gotta try and chase a toilet smelling yellow bumble bee dc2r haha

oh another note, my coilover damper adjustment knob has seized up (at least it is on a hard setting) anyone got any idea on how to unseize? ive crc bathed it and also used freeze anti locking spray which didnt really work :(

FallenAngel
23-10-2008, 05:36 PM
Ah sorry,

It is the K20Z2 for some stupid reason i kept thinking it was z3... >.<

NZFD2
24-10-2008, 06:47 AM
Thanks mate, sorry havnt really been checking the forum, been busy,



nice..

any plans to lower it?

SaBReT00tH
24-10-2008, 11:47 AM
hey guys...put some 20" K-Speed Biaggi's on my FD2 today. Lowered 3 inch in the front and 3 1/2 in the rear. Sits nice and low and no scrubbing at all! Even have full lock in steering!! Washing the car tomorrow and ill have pics up

did u change the springs or shocks at all? did u have to bash the guards?

dmx
24-10-2008, 09:18 PM
after 3 months, finally got my Type-R under carriage cover (3 pcs)-stock Type-R and another 3 pcs optional Type-R.Total 6 pcs.
don't know,should be happy or sad, coz see these parts remaind me the downfall of our AUD (0.95 to 0.65), been knock out badly :(
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/undercc.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/undercc2.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/UNDERCC-1.jpg
-Front piece not in pic catalog

ej20i
24-10-2008, 09:27 PM
wads the point of this anywae?

markCivicVti
25-10-2008, 12:05 AM
make the car heavier ? lol

TurBIce
25-10-2008, 06:47 AM
nice..

any plans to lower it?

nah mate,
was going to but looking at another car. and my dad will drive this car.
and he doesnt like lowered cars. lol, donno why~~

Havocwreaker
25-10-2008, 10:16 AM
The idea of this kind of modification is to create an undertray...which is supposed to produce downforce.
The only problem is that the car won't be low enough or going fast enough to create any meaningful amount.

gerard
25-10-2008, 06:07 PM
this the same kit under the hybrid?

dmx
26-10-2008, 05:29 AM
Nothing to do, let me share some info.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/ucc.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/ucc2.jpg


wads the point of this anywae?
1. the covers made the bottom more smooth hence reducing some moving air trap at the under carriage
2. the car is alittle more quite while driving fast
3. Fuel consp. improve
and the main purpose is to smoothen the airflow underneath, to reduce drag

this is a simple yet useful mod if you understand the physics about air drag.. but it is also a mod which you can't really feel anything but its benefit does exist in daily driving...



make the car heavier ? lol
Never be scare with weight, otherwise we never do mods. it's only 2-3 kg, same like we buy 1 whole watermelon from wollies and put in the car;)


The idea of this kind of modification is to create an undertray...which is supposed to produce downforce.
The only problem is that the car won't be low enough or going fast enough to create any meaningful amount.
It's opposite result.
If the car lowered, we don't need this since only little air trap under the carriage.
and also if the car going fast (in stock height), may induce air lift (only at high speeds - 200kmh)
That's why, under cc get most effective for car stock height and at max speeds around 180 kmh or at city drive
but simple physics teaches that u cant reduce one factor and not increase another, the ducktail spoiler on the hybrid model probably as a counter to improve downforce when high speeds to counter the effects of the undertray carraige
The undercarriage covers are used to coverup holes/spaces that create air turbulence as a result a more restrictive path for airflow. Ground effect typically come in only at hi-speeds (not very high speeds) say above 80-180kph

extract from google:
The use of extensive undercarriage aero parts was the basis of the Ferrari Enzo bcos Ferrari President did not want ugly spoiler wings on the car surface instead he wanted a fluid body design. The Ferrari Enzo ‘s undercarriage aero parts help generate a down force of 400lbs at speed of 186kph. if u guys go to wikipedia/how stuff works, can find some writeup basically it’s a combination of flat panels & air tunnel. The Enzo only has a boot lip spoiler thats all. Same design concept has gone to the 430 Scuderia.

Do a google search on the Honda NSX JGTC GT500 car and its aerodynamics especially the undercarriage part, Same thing was done on the new nissan GTR
FYI. Holden HSV just revealed a few months ago, thats HSV will get under cc on next 2010 production to improve aero and fuel consmp.:o

ktvin09
26-10-2008, 07:38 AM
Thanks for sharing DMX!

Havocwreaker
26-10-2008, 10:51 AM
Th use of undertrays and diffusers work on similar principle to a wing. it makes use of the fluid properties of air conforming to Bernoulli's equation p1v1a1 = p2v2a2.
The lower your car is to the ground, the narrower the gap is and thus the air must speed up to maintain continuity and thus low pressure is created. That's downforce.

As for spoilers on the back of cars? There's two distinct things you can have and a lot of people get confused over the two. There's a wing and there's a spoiler. A wing is a separate element that actually produces downforce because of the pressure differential over the element. And there's the spoiler which does exactly what its name implies. It spoils the airflow over the top of the car so that the car body itself doesn't act like an airfoil and produce lift at high speeds. Anyone notice how your steering gets kinda floaty when you're going fast on a car without a spoiler? That's what it prevents.

I didn't realise it would have an effect of aeroaccoustic dampening; how much quieter is it inside now withe the undercarriage covers?
Also which model is this usually fitted to? JDM Civic Hybrids or all Civic Hybrids?

buzz
26-10-2008, 12:21 PM
how much did that set you back? looks nice tho... very clean

you most definitely right about making the aero dynamics better and reducing the air traps...

good stuff :thumbsup:

ej20i
26-10-2008, 04:13 PM
ahhhh...but was it worth it with the amount of money u spent on it?

Havocwreaker
26-10-2008, 04:52 PM
If it seriously reduces noise, then you really can't put a definitive value on that. DMX might really appreciate a quiet drive. But I don't think the fuel consumption figures will tumble.

howy
26-10-2008, 11:25 PM
Yeh, it'll be good to know how much noise reduction it really does vs. the cost.

I appreciate a quiet drive too :)

ktvin09
27-10-2008, 12:30 AM
On the topic of ride comfort... Does anyone know which spring gives the best ride in terms of comfort (not concern about track) ? Cause I find the stock suspension abit too stiff to my liking.

Read in a Euro thread (and other forums) that the Tein Comfort Sport coilovers gives a very comfort ride:
http://www.tein.com/products/comfort_sport.html

Just wondering if there're other cheaper options...

dmx
28-10-2008, 05:13 PM
how much did that set you back? looks nice tho... very clean

you most definitely right about making the aero dynamics better and reducing the air traps...

good stuff :thumbsup:


ahhhh...but was it worth it with the amount of money u spent on it?

well, i got them with cost price (i mean got with 1st hand price from honda japan) and it was 3months ago when AUD 0.90+ USD.
i can tell you, it's under 300AUD to arrive here.
and don't talk about mod right now, our AUD already R.I.P :thumbdwn: and also YEN rise up very high, so we get double impact:(


If it seriously reduces noise, then you really can't put a definitive value on that. DMX might really appreciate a quiet drive. But I don't think the fuel consumption figures will tumble.


Yeh, it'll be good to know how much noise reduction it really does vs. the cost.

I appreciate a quiet drive too :)

The main purpose is not noise reduction, but for reducing drag or air trap under the car to get better aero. noise reduction only side effect ;)
if you really want noise reduction, just get sound deading, much more effective and you can tell the diff. straight away :thumbsup:

dmx
28-10-2008, 09:08 PM
I really don't believe it's a significant increase in drag reduction, that's all. Sure there are a heap of odd shapes and cavities underneath the car but smoothing all of that out won't really lower your coefficient of drag.
Even if you get air trapped in the nooks and crannies underneath the stagnant pockets of air they produce would be negligable compared to what you'd get off the back of the car.

let me share
http://www.thirdgen.org/groundeffects
There really aren't too many areas to improve the CD of an f-body,but the one area that needs the most help is almost always ignored:the undercarriage.Look under an NSX,911,or rear engine Ferrari and you see a smooth undercarriage-no exhaust pipes,driveshafts...etc.This is the reason why these cars have high top speeds with modest hp.The only way to improve aerodynamics of the undercarriage on a street car is to use "belly pans".Belly pans smooth air under the car,decreasing drag and improving top speed(usually).

http://media.gm.com/intl/opel/en/news/pr_old/pressrelease_698.htm
The following changes were made to cut aerodynamic drag still further: the Corsa Sport's roof spoiler and side skirts were adopted along with large-diameter wheel covers that guide the air flow smoothly past the wheels. An undercarriage panel improves air flow underneath the Corsa, and the size of the cooling air ducts was reduced so that less air flows through the engine compartment.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_108675/article.html
It's interesting to see the airflow passing from the side of the car to its underneath area - despite the wide side sill panel. This flow may be promoted by the Porsche's flat undertray.

The 993 twin turbo has a factory quoted Cd = 0.34 which is a quite good for a car that also sticks to the road at high speed. The drag coefficient probably benefits substantially from the car's full-length flat undertray.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_108676/article.html
Rather than letting the air that has passed through the radiator simply spill out from the engine bay, here an undertray with specific exhausts has been used. The air is guided to emerge from two openings in the tray, whereupon it again accelerates in speed. Note the slower speed in the wake behind the car.
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1086/108676_16lo.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1086/108676_17lo.jpg

http://www.destinationauto.ca/new-showroom/toyota-camry.htm
FYI. New Hybrid camry which backed by Aus federal Gov
Every line and angle of the Camry is aerodynamically honed - reaching a pinnacle with Camry Hybrid's 0.27 coefficient of drag - while Camry SE employs Toyota's F1 technology on the undercarriage for enhanced stability at higher speeds.
http://www.agedstock.com/images/newvehicles/toyota/2009/camry/aero.jpg

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?p=1778821
so what's a solution that's both practical, simple, and doesn't make Betty ugly? I'm thinking about modding the UNDER SIDE of the car with an underbelly tray anyways... why not build a ferrari-like undertray?
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9071/ferrarienzoyn4.jpg

dmx
28-10-2008, 09:21 PM
well, while waiting world sharemarket close,
DIY :
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2456/article.html
http://www.metricmind.com/ac_honda/pan.htm

Honda :
http://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=671

and last : Ferarri Aero study files ;)
(just summary, it's 15MB files)

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd5.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd2.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd6.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd4.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd3.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd8.jpg

FYI. Civic Hybrid's cd 0.27
Civic FD's cd 0.31
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficients

ej20i
28-10-2008, 11:43 PM
physics lessons yo...hahahha

parraboi
29-10-2008, 12:45 AM
lol i believe all the cars dmz mentioned above were twice as fast as the civic... thats why our civic didnt come with the underbody cover stock... whats the point for a shopping grabber??

happy
29-10-2008, 04:28 AM
lol i believe all the cars dmz mentioned above were twice as fast as the civic... thats why our civic didnt come with the underbody cover stock... whats the point for a shopping grabber??
All civic in Japan comes with this stuff, and Aussie Hybrid which only 85kw also have this

ej20i
29-10-2008, 07:55 AM
hey...wif the fuel of price...any drag reducer is better than none

LD_Mart
29-10-2008, 10:57 AM
if anyone is interested the FN also comes with one

Havocwreaker
29-10-2008, 11:38 AM
I'd like to qualify what I said. I didn't say that it would have no effect. I said it would be negligible.

You've posted a range of articles that give us a heap of different information. I'm not too sure what kind of a point you want to make here. Are you trying to convince me that the airflow across a Porches separates and recirculates in various places. Or are you trying to tell me that improving your vehicles aerodynamics improves fuel consumption numbers. Perhaps you're trying to tell me that your undercarriage cover acts just like the undertray and diffuser assembly of a Ferrari Ezno and gives you downforce! And these very fancy-looking CFD images you've given really don't support your point much at all...unless your point was that the Honda Civic is completely different from a Mercedes E-Class.
Altogether I think that you were trying to say that improving the aerodynamic characteristics of the car improves performance. That's correct and I'd hardly disagree else I wouldn't end up with a job (I'm studying Aerospace Engineering).

My original point was that I didn't believe the improvements made to your car would offer large performance increases. The best piece of information you offered was the two numbers at the bottom. The Cds for the two cars.
Overall the Civic Hybrid experience a grand total of just shy of 6kgs of drag less than the stand Civic at 100 kph.
But then your car isn't the standard Hybrid either. You've got a wing on the rear and some pretty schmick wheels. Those aren't going to have the same characteristics as the Hybrid. You therefore can't claim the whole .04 decrease in Cd.

My main point is that unless you cruise everywhere very fast, the fuel savings you'll see are negligible. But even if you weren't after fuel savings, but increased downforce. I'd wager that the increases would be tiny. The under carriage tray wouldn't promote pressure gradients in order to produce downforce.

denot
29-10-2008, 02:04 PM
in the end its dmx car, so he can do whatever he wants :p

ppl still put stikcers, type R emblems, decals, etc on their car without any effect right?

LD_Mart
29-10-2008, 02:21 PM
I thought stickers made ur car go faster...

denot
29-10-2008, 02:26 PM
no actually it slows down the car, its add extra weight to the car :p

edmbranch
29-10-2008, 02:48 PM
no actually it slows down the car, its add extra weight to the car :p

i removed the civic and sport badge and my car sprint from 0 to 100 in 1 sec! :p

dmx
29-10-2008, 07:34 PM
You've posted a range of articles that give us a heap of different information. I'm not too sure what kind of a point you want to make here.

.

if you can get the summary/point of those articles, all give you the same conclusion : undercarriage/undertray/belly pan cover will give you more aero to reduce drag.
by reducing the drag (with better aero), it might help your perfomance (regardless what is the car or small/large impact), but by the science, it will
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd2.jpg



Or are you trying to tell me that improving your vehicles aerodynamics improves fuel consumption numbers.
.
ur previous post :


If it seriously reduces noise, then you really can't put a definitive value on that. DMX might really appreciate a quiet drive. But I don't think the fuel consumption figures will tumble.

I really don't believe it's a significant increase in drag reduction, that's all. Sure there are a heap of odd shapes and cavities underneath the car but smoothing all of that out won't really lower your coefficient of drag.
Even if you get air trapped in the nooks and crannies underneath the stagnant pockets of air they produce would be negligable compared to what you'd get off the back of the car.

and sometimes i quite don't really understand what is your original point.
let we start with your 1st point : the Fuel consp (FC), the scientific result, clearly give us some correlation, regardless what is your car, regardless small/big impact
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/cd.jpg
if you can read the chart : cd 0.25 : to reach 100kmh need 10kw power
cd 0.35 : need 12-13 kw power. means the lower cd, lower power needed, and as result less FC.
but once again : as my first post said :


this is a simple yet useful mod if you understand the physics about air drag.. but it is also a mod which you can't really feel anything but its benefit does exist in daily driving...


and for the ur 2nd point :

I really don't believe it's a significant increase in drag reduction, that's all. Sure there are a heap of odd shapes and cavities underneath the car but smoothing all of that out won't really lower your coefficient of drag.
Even if you get air trapped in the nooks and crannies underneath the stagnant pockets of air they produce would be negligable compared to what you'd get off the back of the car.

if you read all the articles before, at the end you will get the answer (undercarriage/undertray/belly pan cover will reduce cd)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1958584&postcount=2047



Perhaps you're trying to tell me that your undercarriage cover acts just like the undertray and diffuser assembly of a Ferrari Ezno and gives you downforce! And these very fancy-looking CFD images you've given really don't support your point much at all...unless your point was that the Honda Civic is completely different from a Mercedes E-Class.
Altogether I think that you were trying to say that improving the aerodynamic characteristics of the car improves performance.




My original point was that I didn't believe the improvements made to your car would offer large performance increases.

and i NEVER say improvement by undercarraige cover will give you large perf. increases, check my previous post. the only way to get large perf. : Supercharged or Turbo. what ever you "playing", at the end, still Turbo/suprch.


1. the covers made the bottom more smooth hence reducing some moving air trap at the under carriage
2. the car is alittle more quite while driving fast
3. Fuel consp. improve
and the main purpose is to smoothen the airflow underneath, to reduce drag.



The best piece of information you offered was the two numbers at the bottom. The Cds for the two cars.
Overall the Civic Hybrid experience a grand total of just shy of 6kgs of drag less than the stand Civic at 100 kph.
But then your car isn't the standard Hybrid either. You've got a wing on the rear and some pretty schmick wheels. Those aren't going to have the same characteristics as the Hybrid. You therefore can't claim the whole .04 decrease in Cd.

Did i ever claim with this undercarriage cover will reduce civic FD cd by 0.4 ???
you know what ? civic Hybrid can get 0.4 cd lower that FD by :
1. undercarriage cover
2. Ducktail spoiler
3. Lower car height
4. aero model rims

source :
http://www.civicfd-sg.com/viewtopic.php?t=15552



My main point is that unless you cruise everywhere very fast, the fuel savings you'll see are negligible. But even if you weren't after fuel savings, but increased downforce. I'd wager that the increases would be tiny. The under carriage tray wouldn't promote pressure gradients in order to produce downforce.


My original point was that I didn't believe the improvements made to your car would offer large performance increases.


so which ones is your main point here ?:confused:
btw



1. the covers made the bottom more smooth hence reducing some moving air trap at the under carriage
2. the car is alittle more quite while driving fast
3. Fuel consp. improve
and the main purpose is to smoothen the airflow underneath, to reduce drag.

looks like i just copy + paste my previous post :(

anyway, Holden HSV releaved to put this undercarriage cover on 2010 HSV model to get better aero for get better FC at the end. need scientific from them ?..lol they said, they CAN'T put hybrid engine on any HSV or at least there's NO hybrid engine for V8 5.0L engine:D



That's correct and I'd hardly disagree else I wouldn't end up with a job (I'm studying Aerospace Engineering).


and about your studying :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_aerodynamics

Automotive aerodynamics differs from aircraft aerodynamics in several ways. First, the characteristic shape of a road vehicle is bluff , compared to an aircraft. Second, the vehicle operates very close to the ground, rather than in free air. Third, the operating speeds are lower. Fourth, the ground vehicle has fewer degrees of freedom than the aircraft, and its motion is less affected by aerodynamic forces.

last ;
so you think ferrari/porche/Civic hybrid/Camry hybrid/FD2R/FN2R (comf. by LD mart) have this stuff only for water guard ?...lol

cheers

Havocwreaker
29-10-2008, 10:09 PM
I really don't won't to continue this argument in public. It's just dick waving and makes both of us look like twats. I'll PM you my IM address and I'll explain my points without internet-ego inflating our points.

parraboi
29-10-2008, 10:25 PM
in the end, the price for what dmx paid in my opinion does not worth the money for what he will get. i can bet the fuel savings will be really small unless he drives really fast all the time and by doing that it will confume more petrol anyway. again, like the rear wing, its for race cars driven on race courses and of minimal use for day to day driving. at least the wing make ur car look good but u cant even see the cover...

kazam
29-10-2008, 10:40 PM
yeh its a waste of money mod, but so are alot of mods, people still do em coz they like it. let it be.

n/a
29-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Finally got these today from japan!

Does anyone know where i can buy the cables to get the start button up and running?
The DIY diagrams i have seen around the net arent that clear on what to do.. can someone help?? :) thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/jdjc86/IMG_3935.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/jdjc86/IMG_3940.jpg

lazyboy7
30-10-2008, 12:51 AM
i am new does anyone install nice 17" inch wheel on there civic,any brand is good???

dmx
30-10-2008, 04:21 AM
I really don't won't to continue this argument in public. It's just dick waving and makes both of us look like twats. I'll PM you my IM address and I'll explain my points without internet-ego inflating our points.

Please don't see from negative view. This is not arguing or to get who right or wrong, or who win. We just exchange some info or knowledge so ppl here will get benefit of our knowledge. like i said before, i just share my info which i got before and makes its not only benefit for me. That's the purpose of this forum, right ? looking forward to discuss and exchange our thought later outside here.:thumbsup:

happy
30-10-2008, 01:40 PM
Look wat I found about saving fuel and reducing drag factor, etc
*****
DRIVING TIP
NUMBER 26
27June 2008
Save pounds at the pump

As soaring fuel prices continue to hit the headlines, motorists cannot fail to be interested in ways to get the most miles out of every tank of petrol.

Regardless of your choice of vehicle, there are techniques you can use to save fuel and at the same time minimise your impact on the environment. These techniques are part of the IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) course, which has delivered eco-benefits through fuel efficiency methods since the IAM was established in 1956.

Ask yourself: "Do I really need to drive?": Short journeys that are generally less than two miles cause the most pollution and are inefficient in terms of fuel consumption. A straining cold engine will produce 60 per cent more pollution than a warm one. Walk or cycle where possible instead.

Plan your route: Take the most direct route and go at off-peak times if possible to save fuel and time. Sitting in congestion means you are often doing zero miles per litre. Consider car sharing, Park and Ride schemes or public transport.

Have your vehicle serviced regularly: Inefficient, under-serviced engines can reduce fuel economy by 10 per cent or more. Catalytic converters are environmentally friendly - but only if they are properly maintained.

Check your tyres: Correct tyre pressures reduce wear and helps fuel economy. Under-inflated tyres need replacing more often (itself an environmental problem) as well as being dangerous. Make a point of checking them at least once a week.

Obey the speed limits: Try to ‘feather’ the throttle when you reach your cruising speed. Doing 56mph uses 25 per cent less fuel than 70mph and a smoother driving style can bring significant fuel saving.

Reduce the drag factor: Remove roof racks and carriers when they’re not in use as well as unnecessary boot luggage and heavy accessories. Driving with the window open and using air conditioning increases drag and lowers fuel economy, so use the vent settings instead.

Buy green fuel: And use less of it. If you get stuck in traffic, switch off the engine. Find out if you can buy low sulphur diesel (city diesel) or cleaner petrol (low sulphur/aromatics) locally.

Use “accelerator” sense: Save fuel by planning ahead and reading the traffic in advance to gently join a queue rather than braking suddenly as you hit traffic.

Reverse when you park: The engine will be cold and at its most fuel inefficient when you start it. If you can drive away without having to reverse when the engine is cold, you will save fuel and have better visibility.

Watch your levels: If you fill your fuel tank up to the brim, you may be carrying around additional fuel which in turn means that you have more weight on board than is necessary and this will itself reduce fuel efficiency

Credit to Institute of Advanced Motorists
http://www.civinfo.com/forum/how/15188-how-save-fuel-economy-driving-techniques-3.html
*****
Don't drive with window open, that's weird !

Havocwreaker
30-10-2008, 06:47 PM
in the end, the price for what dmx paid in my opinion does not worth the money for what he will get. i can bet the fuel savings will be really small unless he drives really fast all the time and by doing that it will confume more petrol anyway. again, like the rear wing, its for race cars driven on race courses and of minimal use for day to day driving. at least the wing make ur car look good but u cant even see the cover...

As poor as his use of grammar is, my sentiments are similar to that of parraboi.
My course is Aerospace engineering, but I'm also doing a project with cars. Check out youtube with the search string 'formula sae'.
I made my comments off the back of some research i did specifically on undertrays and under car aerodynamic devices. Granted the application for a formula sae car is different to that of a road car, but the principles remain the same.

My point is just this. Unless you spend a lot of your time driving faster than the speed limit, you won't see significant savings in fuel or an increase in performance.
The proof lies within the data you provided. How long do you spend driving at 100kph+? At 100kph, from the graph you've posted, there's less than 3kW of power difference in the power required. The Civic isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it can spare 3kW.

That's all my point was.

dannybubu
30-10-2008, 06:49 PM
how does" ...drive away without having to reverse when the engine is cold" help FC??

andyhui01
30-10-2008, 06:57 PM
how does" ...drive away without having to reverse when the engine is cold" help FC??

If you reverse park, when you start the Car, you can drive it off immediately. Instead of wasting time reversing it while the engine is cold and burning the most fuel.

rk 86 wa
30-10-2008, 07:29 PM
As poor as his use of grammar is, my sentiments are similar to that of parraboi.
My course is Aerospace engineering, but I'm also doing a project with cars. Check out youtube with the search string 'formula sae'.
I made my comments off the back of some research i did specifically on undertrays and under car aerodynamic devices. Granted the application for a formula sae car is different to that of a road car, but the principles remain the same.

My point is just this. Unless you spend a lot of your time driving faster than the speed limit, you won't see significant savings in fuel or an increase in performance.
The proof lies within the data you provided. How long do you spend driving at 100kph+? At 100kph, from the graph you've posted, there's less than 3kW of power difference in the power required. The Civic isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it can spare 3kW.

That's all my point was.

UWA fsae > * :cool:

dmx
30-10-2008, 09:37 PM
Reduce the drag factor: Remove roof racks and carriers when they’re not in use as well as unnecessary boot luggage and heavy accessories. Driving with the window open and using air conditioning increases drag and lowers fuel economy, so use the vent settings instead.

*****
Don't drive with window open, that's weird !
it's normal. when u open ur window while driving, the air will flow into your cabin and reducing cd, at the end will increase ur perf. needed and FC.
same principle with undertray. even some of us still thought, it's negligible, but around the world scientist (who isn't student anymore) proved it's exist;)



My point is just this. Unless you spend a lot of your time driving faster than the speed limit, you won't see significant savings in fuel or an increase in performance.
The proof lies within the data you provided. How long do you spend driving at 100kph+? At 100kph, from the graph you've posted, there's less than 3kW of power difference in the power required. The Civic isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it can spare 3kW.

That's all my point was.
looks mate, you the ones who dragged this issue to FC, but if you read my first post carefully, FC is NOT the main purpose. if FC can be decrease, it's just a bonus and also i said, it's effective at range 80-180 kmh.



1. the covers made the bottom more smooth hence reducing some moving air trap at the under carriage
2. the car is alittle more quite while driving fast
3. Fuel consp. improve
and the main purpose is to smoothen the airflow underneath, to reduce drag

this is a simple yet useful mod if you understand the physics about air drag.. but it is also a mod which you can't really feel anything but its benefit does exist in daily driving...

and you keep saying FC FC FC and FC all the time
also worth or not, it's depend on personal financial circumstances. If you think, it's not, that's ur problems, but for me, this is nothing.
and please don't say, undertray can't reduce drag. It been proved by scientist around the worldand they're not student anymore ;)
btw, you can keep your opinion as yours, same to me. no heart feeling :cool:

lets we move on !!!!
just got my roof spoiler today, finally..
we ordered 8 pcs, 3 end up to Sing, 2 for Indonesia, 1 for malaysia buyer, and last 2 for Australia.:D this is the slimest roof spoiler on the market.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/roof1.jpg
and the roof spoiler line/shape is continue from roof line
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/roof6.jpg

Havocwreaker
30-10-2008, 10:32 PM
UWA fsae > * :cool:

You guys have too much money. Period.

denot
31-10-2008, 09:02 AM
DMX, you got the CF version of the roof spoiler?

happy
31-10-2008, 09:03 AM
UWA fsae > * :cool:
RMIT fsae next :cool:

parraboi
31-10-2008, 09:47 AM
As poor as his use of grammar is, my sentiments are similar to that of parraboi.
My course is Aerospace engineering, but I'm also doing a project with cars. Check out youtube with the search string 'formula sae'.
I made my comments off the back of some research i did specifically on undertrays and under car aerodynamic devices. Granted the application for a formula sae car is different to that of a road car, but the principles remain the same.

My point is just this. Unless you spend a lot of your time driving faster than the speed limit, you won't see significant savings in fuel or an increase in performance.
The proof lies within the data you provided. How long do you spend driving at 100kph+? At 100kph, from the graph you've posted, there's less than 3kW of power difference in the power required. The Civic isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it can spare 3kW.

That's all my point was.

oh yeah you are not only the areospace scientist, but also the primary school english teacher. genius

denot
31-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Cmon guys... can we forget about this argument and move on with "Your mods to 2006-2007 fd civics"?

Frost_FD
31-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Come on, enough with the flaming.
People have these forums so they can show and tell their mods that they are thinking of or have already done.
Now what DMX has installed a undertray which may, which may not decrease drag at a rate which is noticeable at human instintcs but who cares....
We all mod for fun and we all know the feeling of getting that new mod which we are going to install on the weekend regardless on what it is.
Thumbs up to DMX for being a pioneer of FD civics and thanks for the start button and facia you have supplied me =P

ktvin09
31-10-2008, 10:54 AM
^^^ Absolutely agreed!

This is such a wonderful thread for FD owners to share with and learn from others. DMX for one has been a great contributor to everyone here and what others have done will no doubt discourage alot of ppl sharing their mods. DMX didn't ask you to pay for his mod yea? So lets all appreciate other's effort and move on!

nny911
31-10-2008, 11:15 AM
hey...wif the fuel of price...any drag reducer is better than none

AAHHAHAHAHAHH FOB:p

nny911
31-10-2008, 11:18 AM
I thought stickers made ur car go faster...

nah the colour red and speed stripes make it go faster

kn_19_ht
31-10-2008, 11:54 AM
heya Frost_FD!! i was down near scarborough beach last month and saw ur car there...hows the mods 2 ur car coming along??



Come on, enough with the flaming.
People have these forums so they can show and tell their mods that they are thinking of or have already done.
Now what DMX has installed a undertray which may, which may not decrease drag at a rate which is noticeable at human instintcs but who cares....
We all mod for fun and we all know the feeling of getting that new mod which we are going to install on the weekend regardless on what it is.
Thumbs up to DMX for being a pioneer of FD civics and thanks for the start button and facia you have supplied me =P

Frost_FD
31-10-2008, 12:19 PM
Was that you in the black civic with the nice black rims?
Thats one nice car.....
I just need to paint my kit and upgrade my stock speakers and then ill be pretty much done. Im trying to get focals or mb quarts at a good price which i am finding hard.
Hopefully when im in sg and thai end of year i can pick up one at a good price.
Hopefully not fake ones

buzz
31-10-2008, 01:01 PM
yummy

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2988440806_9d78d7b1f1.jpg

FallenAngel
31-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Very nice...

dmx
31-10-2008, 06:42 PM
DMX, you got the CF version of the roof spoiler?
No,only black paint. CF only nice for light color car (ie. CF on white/silver/red/bluish), but not black car --> looks like from far away, some section of your car been dirty (miss been washed)..lol
and also too $$$


thanks for the start button and facia you have supplied me =P
Im trying to get focals or mb quarts at a good price which i am finding hard.

you paid me, so nothing special lah...;)
get Focal, sound better tham MB quart.


Was that you in the black civic with the nice black rims?

not, just friends in SG, mine still with small rims, 18" :thumbdwn:


yummy

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ole.gif

liquid23
31-10-2008, 10:27 PM
Was that you in the black civic with the nice black rims?
Im trying to get focals or mb quarts at a good price which i am finding hard.
Hopefully when im in sg and thai end of year i can pick up one at a good price.
Hopefully not fake ones

I found cheap focals at Westside car audio Cannington. Westside car audio are the recommended reseller for focals. I'm buying my stuff for at least a couple hundreds cheaper than RRP, same prices as online which are eastern states.(e.g 165 K2P = $640 i think)


Hopefully when im in sg and thai end of year i can pick up one at a good price.
Hopefully not fake ones
there is alot of fakes out there so do watch out (especially in Thailand), the sound quality is incredibly bad!

lazyboy7
01-11-2008, 04:43 PM
does anyone know where i can get the mugen badge for the front grill with the clip????can anyone help

ktvin09
02-11-2008, 03:12 AM
I got them from this ebay seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/15CM-JDM-MUGEN-BADGE-JAZZ-INTEGRA-PRELUDE-CIVIC-TYPE-R_W0QQitemZ250317334509QQihZ015QQcategoryZ72211QQt cZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

Frost_FD
03-11-2008, 11:29 AM
I found cheap focals at Westside car audio Cannington. Westside car audio are the recommended reseller for focals. I'm buying my stuff for at least a couple hundreds cheaper than RRP, same prices as online which are eastern states.(e.g 165 K2P = $640 i think)


there is alot of fakes out there so do watch out (especially in Thailand), the sound quality is incredibly bad!

Thats strange... i called westside audio in ozzy park and they told me 820 LoL
I was like "thank you see ya" hahaha

Ill try out cannington once i have a chance. thx

warwick108
03-11-2008, 02:04 PM
hey all.. since the body is wider on the fd2r.. is it possible to fit the back seats into our fd's?.. if so.. where can i get the back seats?.. =).. i remember seeing a site on here to buy the front seats and rims..?..

markCivicVti
03-11-2008, 02:20 PM
civicdrm.co.nr is the site I think you are refering to. Well, at least they used to have the FD2R seats and rims.


And only the front is a bit wider.... the mid/back is the same width I believe. So I'd say it would fit.

liquid23
04-11-2008, 12:29 AM
Thats strange... i called westside audio in ozzy park and they told me 820 LoL
I was like "thank you see ya" hahaha

Ill try out cannington once i have a chance. thx

oh oks, well i spoke to Mark (manager) and he said it was cheap. They have it on special or something. Been special for awhile lol. Since the K3P came out the K2P is pretty cheap.
i'm going to bargain with him on the focal Kit 7. ossy park alberts gave me better price haha (orginally trying to sell to me for 6k like WTF...BYE when RRP is 4.7k)

kn_19_ht
04-11-2008, 12:53 AM
yeah it was..thnx man..where were u??.. ur cars looking nice as well!!!..remember before i said our cars were twins?? hahah..

should have a meetup sometime..thailand is FD Civic parts heaven man!!..good luck..



Was that you in the black civic with the nice black rims?
Thats one nice car.....
I just need to paint my kit and upgrade my stock speakers and then ill be pretty much done. Im trying to get focals or mb quarts at a good price which i am finding hard.
Hopefully when im in sg and thai end of year i can pick up one at a good price.
Hopefully not fake ones

Frost_FD
04-11-2008, 12:24 PM
Omg 4.7 K on speakers.....
I checked out westside morley yesterday they are doing Focals K2P for 600 bucks, i had a listen to them and honestly i am dissapointed...
For 600 bucks plus how much for an amp to run it i didnt think it was much better then my stock pioneers running off my alpine HU...
So i am not going to buy them...

Just going to stick to my stockies or upgrade to type Rs.

Wayne
04-11-2008, 12:53 PM
why not trying to alpine 17Pro type-x.. using scanspeak ring radiator on tweeters.. never tried before but have good reviews.. =)

Frost_FD
04-11-2008, 01:12 PM
Very expensive TypeX haha.

I mean, for me i dont think its worth spending that much with out a substantial amount of gain for that price.
Most might think it is worth it i dont think it is to fork out another 2k for a small improvement..
Thats just my opinion =P

tazman888
04-11-2008, 07:23 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm planning to get a black mugen body kits for my FD1. Any suggestion where should i go in sydney? Planning to get an HID light with the eagle eye stuff as well.
Is there a one stop shop that i can go with a quite reasonable price and quality?

thanks in advance.

sKy.xD
04-11-2008, 08:10 PM
Omg 4.7 K on speakers.....
I checked out westside morley yesterday they are doing Focals K2P for 600 bucks, i had a listen to them and honestly i am dissapointed...
For 600 bucks plus how much for an amp to run it i didnt think it was much better then my stock pioneers running off my alpine HU...
So i am not going to buy them...

Just going to stick to my stockies or upgrade to type Rs.

thats prettty hard to believe the K2P not being much better than pioneers running of the HU ...

I dont think you tested it right haha.

Wayne
04-11-2008, 09:25 PM
lol.. type-x expensive? ebay selling not more than 700 bucks i think.. is a good play.. =)

sKy.xD
04-11-2008, 10:02 PM
yeh but i think he wants warranty, especially if your going to buy expensive gear.

Brescia
05-11-2008, 08:35 AM
V-Lip is on

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8049/image002rv3.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9174/image004xf8.jpg

NZFD2
05-11-2008, 08:40 AM
Brescia: That looks neat! nice one

jeromerae
05-11-2008, 10:15 AM
that V-lip looks awesome man

makes me want one

ekdez
05-11-2008, 10:18 AM
can we get a eagle view?

curious into whether it sticks out from the bumper much

Brescia
05-11-2008, 10:30 AM
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7570/image005cd7.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8809/image007yn8.jpg

ekdez
05-11-2008, 10:51 AM
ahh not bad,

where did you get yours from?

Wayne
05-11-2008, 11:12 AM
im still looking for the mugen kits.. not sure where to get a good quality 1.. any1 can recommend me? thanks..

FallenAngel
05-11-2008, 11:15 AM
TBH most mugen kits are the same if they're made from ABS.

If u want good quality then go for the expensive genuine version.

Brescia
05-11-2008, 11:39 AM
cheers


ahh not bad,

where did you get yours from?

From ozhonda member dmx,
i took the last one he had, im not sure if he's getting more in

buzz
05-11-2008, 01:54 PM
sooo nice... love the v-lip :D

Frost_FD
05-11-2008, 02:13 PM
lol.. type-x expensive? ebay selling not more than 700 bucks i think.. is a good play.. =)

700 bucks!!! ahaha not expensive....
then you need a 4x150W amp...

Sorry i am only a average joe so thats quite expensive for me =)

Wayne
05-11-2008, 03:08 PM
yeah.. im looking for ABS made mugen kit.. not sure where to get a cheap and reasonable price.. is the best comes with paint.. any idea guys?

erm.. 7xx consider good if u plan to use long term.. =)

FDBenni
05-11-2008, 04:20 PM
Yeh I'm in the same boat as you I'm looking for a replica Mugen kit. Anyone know where to hook us up with one from Melbourne?

Wayne
05-11-2008, 09:13 PM
hey benni.. once u got information.. can PM me? perhaps we can buy together.. can get a bulk discount.. hehe..

anyway.. please PM me ur msn so we can have some contact and meet up 1 day.. =)

liquid23
05-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Omg 4.7 K on speakers.....
I checked out westside morley yesterday they are doing Focals K2P for 600 bucks, i had a listen to them and honestly i am dissapointed...
For 600 bucks plus how much for an amp to run it i didnt think it was much better then my stock pioneers running off my alpine HU...
So i am not going to buy them...

Just going to stick to my stockies or upgrade to type Rs.

Did you test it in the store or in a person's car? the top of the range focal do the job for me but everyone has a different opinion of course.
Listening to the board of speakers and subs just isn't good enough i reckon. you have to ask the manager to sus out if they can get the owners with these speakers or any others you like to come down and for you to listen IN THE CAR. otherwise in my opinion, hearing from the board and instore is a total waste of time.

jpestrada115
05-11-2008, 11:31 PM
hi guys.

saw this boot lip spoiler (ducktail) in ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360104522111&fromMakeTrack=true

this is definitely for USDM civics. will it fit on the boot of our FD?

ej20i
06-11-2008, 08:14 AM
just got front strut by ultra racing...getting rear strut next week..

FallenAngel
06-11-2008, 09:45 AM
Where did you pick up the struts from?

ej20i
06-11-2008, 10:14 AM
mu secret....193 bux...r u interested in the rear??if u r...den i can order it for u now...

buzz
06-11-2008, 02:47 PM
how much is the front strut bro?

Frost_FD
06-11-2008, 05:03 PM
Did you test it in the store or in a person's car? the top of the range focal do the job for me but everyone has a different opinion of course.
Listening to the board of speakers and subs just isn't good enough i reckon. you have to ask the manager to sus out if they can get the owners with these speakers or any others you like to come down and for you to listen IN THE CAR. otherwise in my opinion, hearing from the board and instore is a total waste of time.

You are probably correct, whois willing to let me listen to their Focals?
Im in perth =P
Didnt notice liquid your in perth LoL

FallenAngel
06-11-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm thinking of getting those struts also front and back.
Just not too sure when i am getting them.

liquid23
06-11-2008, 09:59 PM
You are probably correct, whois willing to let me listen to their Focals?
Im in perth =P
Didnt notice liquid your in perth LoL

haha no worries. well i don't have mine yet but i'm sure if you ask the manager to find someone with focals in their car that they have installed for you to listen it wont be a trouble. i know Allan in alberts Ossy park knows someone. cause he got this guy to drive his car in for me to listen to k2ps. so yeah just ask around, you'll get to see other people's setup as well so might give you more choices. don't just stick to focals either, ask for other brands (pioneer, alpine, hertz, MBQ, dynaudio etc) some brand are good for speakers some for amps (i reckon audison makes decent amps, imo)

dmx
07-11-2008, 04:40 AM
.
i'm going to bargain with him on the focal Kit 7. ossy park alberts gave me better price haha (orginally trying to sell to me for 6k like WTF...BYE when RRP is 4.7k)
4.7K ? really ? tought Dynaudio is the most exp. ones.


V-Lip is on


hey..nice mate :thumbsup: the first in yellow ;)


hi guys.

saw this boot lip spoiler (ducktail) in ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360104522111&fromMakeTrack=true

this is definitely for USDM civics. will it fit on the boot of our FD?
ppl said it will fit for ducktail, but nobody try. may be you want be the first:cool:

jpestrada115
07-11-2008, 01:08 PM
^ thanks dmx. this CF ducktail looks hot and the price is ok as well!

but i'll probably do some research first. might check in the US forums on the width of 06-08 USDM civic boot/trunk lid if its the same as the width of our FD.

ej20i
07-11-2008, 07:55 PM
hey guys, i got new wheels...black rims with red lip...i'll post up fotos once u take em and i'll post up fotos of my strut...

dmx
07-11-2008, 09:31 PM
^ thanks dmx. this CF ducktail looks hot and the price is ok as well!

but i'll probably do some research first. might check in the US forums on the width of 06-08 USDM civic boot/trunk lid if its the same as the width of our FD.

if the ducktail not up to trunk curve, should be ok.
but if up to curve area, seems won;t fit.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ducktail_bk.jpg

coz seems FD and FA/FG trunk shape slightly diff. :confused:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/civichspoiler3nv5copy.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/IMG_1210.jpg

ej20i
07-11-2008, 11:16 PM
heres my strut braces yo and my new rims....
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/DSC_0003.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/DSC_0018.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/DSC_0024.jpg
and just a teaser of the rims
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/DSC_0078.jpg

denot
08-11-2008, 01:10 AM
omg! love the rim!!! size n brand?

amurray
08-11-2008, 05:12 PM
I get my Car back on Monday with

Cusco Zero GT coil overs
Cusco Front lower arm bar
Cusco Rear lower arm bar

Soon will have:

Cusco Front sway bar
Cusco Rear sway bar

Fugitsubo cat back
Custom extractors

ej20i
08-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Kuro 17s from tempe...well the brand is meant to be disclosed as kuro is pretty cheap...hehehehe
umm its a kuro intake
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=1746

ej20i
08-11-2008, 10:36 PM
here it is...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/08-11-20086.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/08-11-20087.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/08-11-200820.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/08-11-200826.jpg

LD_Mart
08-11-2008, 11:04 PM
looks nice...

Shimian
09-11-2008, 06:29 AM
omg. sex on wheels. I was thinking about those but didnt have 18s. They look quite big maybe due to the red rip

LD_Mart
09-11-2008, 08:54 AM
Those wheels do come in 18s cause i wanted them in 19s...
They come in 18x7.5 & 17x7.5

jjvv
09-11-2008, 11:09 AM
I get my Car back on Monday with

Cusco Zero GT coil overs
Cusco Front lower arm bar
Cusco Rear lower arm bar

Soon will have:

Cusco Front sway bar
Cusco Rear sway bar

Fugitsubo cat back
Custom extractors


yr one is fd1 or fd2?
Do u know it suit?
i dont think Cusco Rear sway bar suit for FD1....

rk 86 wa
09-11-2008, 05:34 PM
looks good, tho needs the rest of the mugen kit :)

denot
09-11-2008, 05:58 PM
wow that looks sexay!!!

LD_Mart
10-11-2008, 07:52 PM
Syd FD owners come along to our cruise...
Everyone wants you there now..My original plan was to invite u all but some owners got mad but we have come to an aggrement that we all want you there...

ej20i
10-11-2008, 08:51 PM
im in...

nny911
11-11-2008, 12:56 AM
im in...

im down.. dont need lifts nemore LOL:thumbsup:

wait where we going?

dmx
11-11-2008, 04:28 AM
Syd FD owners come along to our cruise...
Everyone wants you there now..My original plan was to invite u all but some owners got mad but we have come to an aggrement that we all want you there...
damn.i'm on family holidays for 3 weeks. will come for next ones (december).:angel:


here it is...
Nice and neat !!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

rene
11-11-2008, 08:20 AM
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3694/jubi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9022/transformersbx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8608/depan1lb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8946/tyre2mo9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More pics will follow with better lights aspect!! :o

buzz
11-11-2008, 09:17 AM
pics are nice rene... can you tell me where that spot is? would love to go there and take pics too.

DAM cant go on the cruise... photographer at wedding :D

denot
11-11-2008, 09:17 AM
is it @ waterloo/moore park apt? XD great pic and cars rene!

rene
11-11-2008, 09:24 AM
Thanks guys!

Pics taken near Fairfax building / Channel 7 area...

With proper lights/daylights... it could be one of the best spot in Sydney.

Do you guys know when/how to join for the oz cruise? Cheers!

NZFD2
11-11-2008, 09:52 AM
@rene: is this your rims? http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=1159

looks nice

rene
11-11-2008, 09:58 AM
yup NZFD2 except mine is the 18'

FallenAngel
11-11-2008, 11:31 AM
Thanks guys!

Pics taken near Fairfax building / Channel 7 area...

With proper lights/daylights... it could be one of the best spot in Sydney.

Do you guys know when/how to join for the oz cruise? Cheers!

Just go to the thread and say your going!

Details should be on the first page.

bodaas
11-11-2008, 06:23 PM
carbon door for fd

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/760/carbonec0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/carbonec0.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img120/carbonec0.jpg/1/)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEIBON-06-08-Civic-4D-Carbon-Fiber-2-Rear-Doors-FA-FD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q 7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec 0Q2em14QQhashZitem270300973781QQitemZ270300973781Q QptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

liquid23
12-11-2008, 10:27 PM
LOL US $1600 = AU $2368
DAMN. hmm not a fan of the carbon fiber doors. i reckon they will look very weird =/
too much exterior CF for my liking, even though i have a front splitter, hood, grill and interior all CF :p

ej20i
13-11-2008, 07:31 AM
man, imagine if u got on the side...ur F****D up

ekdez
13-11-2008, 08:38 AM
man, imagine if u got on the side...ur F****D up


imagine if you got hit on the side? you'd be fked up?

rene
13-11-2008, 08:45 AM
plus FD's doesnt comes with SIPS!! Bye bye life hello heaven! :P imagine unlimited wines and beers!

bodaas
13-11-2008, 03:33 PM
plus FD's doesnt comes with SIPS!! Bye bye life hello heaven! :P imagine unlimited wines and beers!

and unlimited sex with sexy bikini blondes !

rene
13-11-2008, 04:10 PM
hawt girls normally goes to hell mate...

bodaas
13-11-2008, 04:18 PM
nah, all hot girls goes to my room..

u must be indo,, right?? i saw your car photos from autoshow

rene
13-11-2008, 04:35 PM
yea :) indo here

nny911
13-11-2008, 11:38 PM
bodaas i saw ur car last saturday night.. parked in china town..

rene
14-11-2008, 12:36 PM
Hey hey guys I am going to the cruise...is it too late?

LD_Mart
14-11-2008, 12:40 PM
rene click here and discuss on this link...
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99372&page=5

It might be moved due to the weather...

ej20i
14-11-2008, 12:40 PM
well i hope its not cancel tomorow...made plans already

rene
14-11-2008, 01:00 PM
wait is it going to be type R only? where to meet up? anyone living near maroubra?

ej20i
14-11-2008, 01:06 PM
its for all civic basically...ep3r, fn2r and fds

ej20i
14-11-2008, 01:07 PM
heres my mod lately...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z257/ej20i/led.jpg

rene
14-11-2008, 01:20 PM
sexy fog lights mate! is that leds? or HID? add the angle eyes with audi led's = perfect!

ej20i
14-11-2008, 05:35 PM
its not fogs.they are just leds that blinks with the blinker

bodaas
14-11-2008, 05:54 PM
bodaas i saw ur car last saturday night.. parked in china town..

yeah? how come i have never seen any FD from ozhonda, where were you guys hiding? :zip:

tazman888
14-11-2008, 08:22 PM
I thought the angel eye with audi's led haven't come out yet? Correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm waiting to get one of those to pair up with HID.

ej20i
14-11-2008, 08:40 PM
yea its out maing...
but 2 b honest bro...it looks kinda tacky

tazman888
14-11-2008, 10:04 PM
so you reckon the old angel eye will look better? is there anyone has a pic with the new angel eye on their lovely FD?

Shimian
14-11-2008, 10:42 PM
noob here. never changed rims before

Looking to upgrade my stock 16s to 18X7.5. The tyres available are 215/40 or 225/40 with the closest % difference.
My question is, if i go into a tyre store and ask for 225/40 (for example), will they all fit my 18X7.5? Or are there additional specs i need to look out for?

Also FD2 lugs are 12mm X 1.5"? Again, it will slot into all rims?


chers

rk 86 wa
15-11-2008, 12:56 AM
shimian use this to calculate stock rolling diametre vs new rolling diametre http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Shimian
15-11-2008, 08:22 AM
shimian use this to calculate stock rolling diametre vs new rolling diametre http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

thanks. my question is, if i walk into a tyre store and ask for either one of those spec tyres, will it fit any 18 inch regardless of offset or width? im not sure if theres anything else i need to look out for.

Heres the spec

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
Stock
205/55-16 4.4in 12.4in 24.9in 78.2in 811 0.0%

Choice
215/40-18 3.4in 12.4in 24.8in 77.8in 814 -0.4%
225/40-18 3.5in 12.5in 25.1in 78.8in 804 0.8%

tazman888
15-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Anyone has experience with this Angel eye from ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Angel-Eyes-Projector-Head-Light-for-8th-Gens-CIVIC_W0QQitemZ400007290808QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_C ar_Parts_Accessories?hash=item400007290808&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66&#37;3A2%7C65%3A16%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Planning to get one of those with HID as well.

BC8
15-11-2008, 05:06 PM
got these insalled today

skunk2 lowering springs on the FD1

about 2" drop

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq258/bc08_photos/resized.jpg

black8thgen
15-11-2008, 08:02 PM
can someone link me with the correct red honda badge for the FD? The ebay store here: http://stores.ebay.com/bestjdmparts_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQpZ5 QQtZkm

is pretty ambiguous about which one is actually for the civic FD..

cheers

edit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-Red-H-Front-Rear-Emblem-06-09-Civic-4-door-Si-FD2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6763QQihZ023QQitemZ 360105746780

would it be that one? Anyone actually purchased from here?

dannybubu
15-11-2008, 08:07 PM
why don't you just buy from JDM yard? they're australian dealer...anyways i think this is the right one...maybe get some other guys to double confirm as well...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-JDM-REAR-RED-H-EMBLEM-06-08-CIVIC-4-door-FA5-FG2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ6763QQihZ002QQitemZ120320461682

rk 86 wa
15-11-2008, 08:37 PM
thanks. my question is, if i walk into a tyre store and ask for either one of those spec tyres, will it fit any 18 inch regardless of offset or width? im not sure if theres anything else i need to look out for.

Heres the spec

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
Stock
205/55-16 4.4in 12.4in 24.9in 78.2in 811 0.0%

Choice
215/40-18 3.4in 12.4in 24.8in 77.8in 814 -0.4%
225/40-18 3.5in 12.5in 25.1in 78.8in 804 0.8%


ahh sorry shimian i read what you said wrong,

for a 7.5 " wide rim i would go for a 225 or a 235

only because a 215 is a bit too narrow for a 7.5 IMHO, 225 x 40 x r18 is a much more common tire size in my opinion so probably easier to find the tire you want etc.

tires have nothing to do with offset, thats your rims.

the only things you need to know are what size i.e 225/40/r18 and of course most importantly what rubber you are after :)

Shimian
15-11-2008, 09:27 PM
thanks for the info. Ill go get myself some decent 225/40 tyres.
I had another question.

"Also FD2 lugs are 12mm X 1.5"? Again, it will slot into all rims?"

Can someone confirm if FD2 lugs/wheel locks are 12mm X 1.5"? Therefore i just buy this size and it will fit my 18"x7.5?

cheers

andyhui01
15-11-2008, 10:24 PM
^Buy any Lugnuts which are 1.5" and you'll be fine, the length is irrelevant. Just depends on how much you want it to stick out.

denot
15-11-2008, 11:20 PM
Shimian, can you share the info on what tyres u got and how much u spend on them? I'm currently looking for the same size as well

rk 86 wa
15-11-2008, 11:22 PM
yeh 1.5 mm thread is all hondas i think

what tires did yo uhave in mind?

Shimian
15-11-2008, 11:54 PM
Shimian, can you share the info on what tyres u got and how much u spend on them? I'm currently looking for the same size as well

I havent bought any tyres yet cos i didnt know what tyres would fit 18x7.5.
After some help from rk 86 wa, ill look for some 225/40. A mate mentioned Adrenalin tyres. Anyone used them before? Looking to spend between 200-250 a tyre

rk 86 wa
16-11-2008, 03:52 AM
using adrenalins at the moment and i love them, obviously not as good as re01r or ad07 but i get around the local track with hardly any problems :)

FallenAngel
16-11-2008, 08:53 AM
Agreed!! RE001's are great, bang for buck as most people would agree.

ej20i
16-11-2008, 07:53 PM
they are pretty good...i scored some awesome tyres when i just bought my rims
i got dunlop sp sport 9000...s 500 tyres yo..and they stik...i mean they STICK!!!!!

xqwzit
16-11-2008, 08:41 PM
^ how much and what size?

ej20i
16-11-2008, 08:52 PM
i got it with the whole rims...17s with 215/45
2 dunlop sp sport 9000 and 2 kumho ecsta for rears all up for 1180 wand trade in with the stock vti tyres which are dunlop sp sport 300

rene
17-11-2008, 08:28 AM
why don't you just buy from JDM yard? they're australian dealer...anyways i think this is the right one...maybe get some other guys to double confirm as well...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-JDM-REAR-RED-H-EMBLEM-06-08-CIVIC-4-door-FA5-FG2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262 QQcategoryZ6763QQihZ002QQitemZ120320461682

Depends on the colour of your car, my one's is black FD and i managed to get the red badge(back part) with black layer after the silver layer which makes the badge stands like this ---------> /| instead of //

The original red badge (back part) will sit vertically instead of following your body curve.

denot
17-11-2008, 09:54 AM
i got it with the whole rims...17s with 215/45
2 dunlop sp sport 9000 and 2 kumho ecsta for rears all up for 1180 wand trade in with the stock vti tyres which are dunlop sp sport 300

EJ, just wondering if you get a good price for the trade ins? I'm looking to upgrade my wheels and still thinking should I trade-ins my stockies 16" with around 50% tyres (5 of them) or just sell them by myself...

Cheers

black8thgen
17-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Depends on the colour of your car, my one's is black FD and i managed to get the red badge(back part) with black layer after the silver layer which makes the badge stands like this ---------> /| instead of //

The original red badge (back part) will sit vertically instead of following your body curve.

Yea i got a black FD, oh what u mean? Well i just want red badges that perfectly fit the FD. I've foudn some from JDMconcept, geeze these things are a bit pricey ey..

uhm how do you install them on? is it easy? Cos on the pictures ive seen come screws and stuff, so just wondering how it fits in..

ej20i
17-11-2008, 11:27 AM
denot, if i were u...i'd try 2 sell em my self...i traded mine in with 99&#37; thread...30 mins of the dealer

denot
17-11-2008, 12:35 PM
^^^ thanks EJ, I will post up these on the selling thread latter on...

jpestrada115
17-11-2008, 02:26 PM
I havent bought any tyres yet cos i didnt know what tyres would fit 18x7.5.
After some help from rk 86 wa, ill look for some 225/40. A mate mentioned Adrenalin tyres. Anyone used them before? Looking to spend between 200-250 a tyre

@ shimian: looks like you've sorted out the size of the tyres but you might want to consider the load rating as well. FD1s require at least 91 load rating. speed rating shouldn't be a problem for tyres over 17" as they at least have "W" speed rating.

225 wide tyres should be perfect for 7.5" wide rims.




if the ducktail not up to trunk curve, should be ok.
but if up to curve area, seems won;t fit.

coz seems FD and FA/FG trunk shape slightly diff. :confused:


@ dmx: thanks for the input. looks like the ebay ducktail won't really be curved from the side view as you illustrated in the pics that you posted coz it will be on top of the boot lid (similar to your ducktail). the curve that i'm concerned of is if you look from the back of the car (green curved line on the pic of your car with ducktail). you think this curve of the boot lid for the JDM/AuDM same with that for the USDM boot lid?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/jpestrada115/ducktail5-1.jpg

funkdr
17-11-2008, 03:33 PM
Got my base figure before any performance mods


Will upload a video soon.



http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z75/funkdr_photos/DYNO.jpg

denot
17-11-2008, 03:43 PM
wow, did I see 73KW??? O.O

Edit: what does it mean by "Gear: 4"?

funkdr
17-11-2008, 03:46 PM
73Kw @ wheels in 4th gear @ 176Kph 6750rpm


Only thing remotely related to the engine is Optima Battery and Earthing Kit

FallenAngel
17-11-2008, 06:21 PM
If i'm not mistaken, the vti/vtil have the same engine and whatnot, and i got 80.8kw at the wheels.. (car was stock back then)

What was the top speed of ur 4th gear? Mine was 204km/h on the dyno...
Where was your dyno done?

funkdr
17-11-2008, 06:46 PM
Was done at GFS in taren point


Was yours on a hub dyno?

ej20i
17-11-2008, 07:34 PM
how much does it cost??

funkdr
17-11-2008, 07:37 PM
$75 they run the car up twice and you get a laminated printout of the better run

Shimian
17-11-2008, 08:32 PM
@ shimian: looks like you've sorted out the size of the tyres but you might want to consider the load rating as well. FD1s require at least 91 load rating. speed rating shouldn't be a problem for tyres over 17" as they at least have "W" speed rating.

225 wide tyres should be perfect for 7.5" wide rims.



Ill probably get Adrenaline RE001 since everyone says its really good. The specs are

225 40 18
LOAD 92
SPEED W
OD 637
TYPE TL

jpestrada115
17-11-2008, 09:47 PM
Ill probably get Adrenaline RE001 since everyone says its really good. The specs are

225 40 18
LOAD 92
SPEED W
OD 637
TYPE TL

looks like you got it all bro.:thumbsup:

if i'm not mistaken, the BS Adrenaline RE001 have rim guards to protect your precious rims as well.:D

Shimian
17-11-2008, 09:55 PM
looks like you got it all bro.:thumbsup:

if i'm not mistaken, the BS Adrenaline RE001 have rim guards to protect your precious rims as well.:D

oh..i have no idea what a rim guard is (checking google now). im still a virgin when it comes to rims

ej20i
17-11-2008, 10:36 PM
a rim guard is when the tyre comes out abit further than the lip of the rims so u can gutter the tyre first then the rim...but most of the time...its bull...u'll hit the rim anywae...hahahha just becareful

Shimian
17-11-2008, 11:04 PM
a rim guard is when the tyre comes out abit further than the lip of the rims so u can gutter the tyre first then the rim...but most of the time...its bull...u'll hit the rim anywae...hahahha just becareful

ahh ok. will do. only 2 scratch marks on my current rims since i bought the car (almost 2 yrs) and it happened in the early stages. ill make sure i park 0.5m from gutter :D

FallenAngel
18-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Was done at GFS in taren point


Was yours on a hub dyno?


$75 they run the car up twice and you get a laminated printout of the better run

Mine was done on dyno dynamics at IS Motor Racing

Was just a normal dyno for $55 for 3 runs and also a print out. Also free lunch too!

Shimian
19-11-2008, 07:19 AM
noob question:

Does all centre caps fit all cars?

ekdez
19-11-2008, 09:14 AM
nope. they range in size and diameter.

rene
19-11-2008, 11:09 AM
Yea i got a black FD, oh what u mean? Well i just want red badges that perfectly fit the FD. I've foudn some from JDMconcept, geeze these things are a bit pricey ey..

uhm how do you install them on? is it easy? Cos on the pictures ive seen come screws and stuff, so just wondering how it fits in..

Haha i dont install them my self, dont think its easy hence front parts would need the front bumper taken off first i think.

It is pricey and the worst thing is pricey items doesnt mean original, I am not sure whether JDM concept has original one's or not but the same measurement testing still applies.

if you stick the original rear red emblems, it will sit vertically as in /|

from the side
/ = your car body
| = your emblems

if its fake it will sit like this / /

Hope you got it.

amurray
19-11-2008, 02:34 PM
hey guys.. i get my new extractors made and fitted on friday. along with full highflow exhaust.. anyone got extrator yet?

black8thgen
19-11-2008, 03:27 PM
Haha i dont install them my self, dont think its easy hence front parts would need the front bumper taken off first i think.

It is pricey and the worst thing is pricey items doesnt mean original, I am not sure whether JDM concept has original one's or not but the same measurement testing still applies.

if you stick the original rear red emblems, it will sit vertically as in /|

from the side
/ = your car body
| = your emblems

if its fake it will sit like this / /

Hope you got it.

Ah okay, so the fake ones dont bend according to the rear boot properly?

nah i think JDM concept has the originals, well i'd hope so..

hmmm i thought they could be installed ourselves.. ah well ill ask around

cheers mate

Wayne
19-11-2008, 03:29 PM
so the rear emblem comes with two pins? anyone installed the front emblem as well? and DIYer?

howy
19-11-2008, 03:35 PM
hey guys.. i get my new extractors made and fitted on friday. along with full highflow exhaust.. anyone got extrator yet?

nope but i'm actually looking into getting a setup for myself.

how much do they and the exhaust cost?

amurray
19-11-2008, 04:44 PM
well its custom made.. mine was 700 bucks. but it could be anything.. all comes down to the shop.

sKy.xD
19-11-2008, 04:48 PM
700 for a custom made exhaust and extractors? pretty cheap .. show us some pics heh

amurray
19-11-2008, 04:58 PM
will post up pics on friday
as i thats when it gets done.

Exotic exhaust here in brisbane are doing it... there pretty famous here.. and know there shit.

Wayne
19-11-2008, 05:32 PM
anyone from melbourne who driving FD interested to go clayton tomorrow? will going there to install my HIDs and grounding kits.. =)

ej20i
19-11-2008, 06:49 PM
hids and grounding kit installation??how much is that?
y dont u just d.i.y

LD_Mart
19-11-2008, 07:26 PM
so the rear emblem comes with two pins? anyone installed the front emblem as well? and DIYer?


Yeh depends if u wanna keep the original H then dont do it my way but i just got a screw driver and popped it out...
It broke the 2 clips holding it in though so yeh up to you...
then the red badge just has two pins and is covered in 3M tape and just goes straight into place...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/danny_mart/PA2400641.jpg

black8thgen
19-11-2008, 08:53 PM
so when u pop the silver H out, it just leaves that black plastic backing right? and the red badge just goes over?

jpestrada115
19-11-2008, 10:02 PM
so when u pop the silver H out, it just leaves that black plastic backing right? and the red badge just goes over?

sorry to butt in but yeah, that's right. the plastic backing where the double adhesive 3M tape will stick on to and 2 holes where the 2 pins of the red H emblem will slip into.:thumbsup:

by the way, anyone of you guys heard about fitment and quality of the replica mugen kits from here => http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-CIVIC-SEDAN-TO-SUIT-2007-MODEL-ONWARDS_W0QQitemZ320319005942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320319005942&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66&#37;3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Wayne
19-11-2008, 11:05 PM
hids and grounding kit installation??how much is that?
y dont u just d.i.y

i dont know how to DIY.. =(

not sure how much for the grouding.. but installation for headlight and foglight they quote me $80..

Wayne
19-11-2008, 11:07 PM
thanks for the info.. but do anyone have the pics after take out the silver H? so u mean if using screwdriver and popped it out.. the H will surely broke? =(

LD_Mart
20-11-2008, 08:39 AM
installation for headlight and foglight they quote me $80..

80 bucks haha for 20mins work... ill do it for a 6pack of beer


using screwdriver and popped it out.. the H will surely broke? =(

The H doesnt break just the 2 little clips on the back of the H break..
I put my standard H back on using super glue when i sold the car and it didnt move a bit...so yeh it is possible to put the normal H back on..

Wayne
20-11-2008, 10:53 AM
haha.. but i dont know how to DIY.. so i need to pay for it.. too bad.. =(

so u mean the clip will broke.. so the clips will stuck on the grill.. then the Red H also need to cut to clips and stick on it? thanks..

dannybubu
20-11-2008, 05:36 PM
anyone tried using a hair drier?/heatgun?

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 05:56 PM
if theres two clips, i dont think its gonna work.

anyway, that body kit is damn cheap.. 400bucks? other ones made of polyurethane are aronud 700+. but i wonder if its good quality.... anyone had experience with it?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-CIVIC-SEDAN-TO-SUIT-2007-MODEL-ONWARDS_W0QQitemZ320319005942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320319005942&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66&#37;3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Shimian
20-11-2008, 06:17 PM
if theres two clips, i dont think its gonna work.

anyway, that body kit is damn cheap.. 400bucks? other ones made of polyurethane are aronud 700+. but i wonder if its good quality.... anyone had experience with it?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-CIVIC-SEDAN-TO-SUIT-2007-MODEL-ONWARDS_W0QQitemZ320319005942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320319005942&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

thats starting bid thou, not buy me now

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 06:32 PM
yeah true, although ending in one day, and no bids as of yet, i doubt there will be that many bids on it. so no one has experience with this ABS plastic one?

Wayne
20-11-2008, 07:04 PM
399 is quite cheap.. but without paint.. paint will cost u a bomb.. =)

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 07:07 PM
ah paint's not an issue for me, got a mate who can provide installation + paint for me. But yeah quality and reliability is the main problem.

ej20i
20-11-2008, 08:08 PM
u got a mate???hook us up yo...been wanting to get the dam kit...but cant afford paint!!!

Wayne
20-11-2008, 08:51 PM
yeah.. im wondering your mate charge you how much on paint? i heard my friend said it normally charge 400-600 for full set paint.. =(

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 08:57 PM
yeah, seriously paint is an insane cost.. its like more than the kit itself almost.. but uhm i'll have to arrange a few things with my mate, its actually my mate's dad but yeah haha i'll see what i can come up with.

so uhm anyone got recommended kits to purchase? like.. ebay sellers to buy from and stuff.

jpestrada115
20-11-2008, 09:03 PM
haha.. but i dont know how to DIY.. so i need to pay for it.. too bad.. =(

so u mean the clip will broke.. so the clips will stuck on the grill.. then the Red H also need to cut to clips and stick on it? thanks..

yes, the clip will break if you use a screw driver to pry the original chrome H out. you can take it out without breaking those 2 pins if you take out the whole grille and work from the back. the 2 pins on the chrome H are actually held in place by circular metal 1-way fasteners - real tricky to remove these fasteners without breaking the pins!

going back to the "pry the chrome H out with a screw driver" method, the 2 pins with the fasteners will just fall inside the grille leaving the 2 holes where the pins of your new red H will come in. you probably won't need to place fastener for those pins as the red H emblem actually has a full adhesive backing so it's quite secure just by sticking it to the grille.:thumbsup:


thats starting bid thou, not buy me now

yeah that's right. but i've seen this ABS replica mugen kit a number of times in ebay ending with the $399 price. i'm getting tempted to buy it... anybody here who bought their kits from this ebay seller?

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 09:06 PM
yeah im quite tempted to buy it too, its about 1/2 - 1/3 the price of other sellers around. But as i said before, quality is the main issue i guess. Although people say ABS and PP material are similar, guess its just a matter of the supplier.

Wayne
20-11-2008, 09:12 PM
thanks for the info jpestrada115.. waiting my emblem to come and will DIY on my car.. hehe.. so the rear emblem also comes with two pins as well?

anyway.. be careful about the seller selling in real ABS or fibre/FRP.. because the price is too cheap to believe.. even in Malaysia.. the price wont be that low.. anyway.. good luck.. =)

jpestrada115
20-11-2008, 09:28 PM
i asked this ebay seller a question about holes required. here's his response:

"NO YOU DO NOT REQUIRE HOLES AND DRILL ON THE BUMPER AND BODY TO FIT THIS KIT. THEY COME WITH RUBBER STRIPS TO TAPE THEM ON. WE ALSO RECOMEND YOU PUT SOME SPECIALISED GLUE. WE CAN PROVIDE A TUBE OF THE GLUE FOR 25.00. YES WE CAN POST TO CAIRNS AT 100.00 EXTRA FOR POSTAGE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY BIDDING

- stylish.body.kits"

i requested photos showing the fitment of the kits from the seller.

his ad also says that local pick-up can be arranged. anyone there from NSW who would go the distance (Monterey NSW) to trial fit the kits for fitment? :D if only i was in NSW i would!

black8thgen
20-11-2008, 09:41 PM
really no holes? this other seller just said the side skirts need holes drilled, otherwise perfect fitment wont be secured. damnitt this is comfusing now.

Wayne
20-11-2008, 09:44 PM
i think the kit shud have some clips to clip on the bumper.. and support by some 3M tapes and the rubber lining is for cosmetic purpose to cover the gap between the kit with the body and bars.. but it said no holes at all.. is quite confusing.. anyone who have mugen kit with PP or ABS can explain this? =)

jpestrada115
20-11-2008, 10:28 PM
thanks for the info jpestrada115.. waiting my emblem to come and will DIY on my car.. hehe.. so the rear emblem also comes with two pins as well?

anyway.. be careful about the seller selling in real ABS or fibre/FRP.. because the price is too cheap to believe.. even in Malaysia.. the price wont be that low.. anyway.. good luck.. =)

i recently DIY-installed my red H emblems so it's quite fresh with me.:)

yup, the rear emblem have 2 pins as well. you just have to remove the 4 clips on the boot lid insulator (if you have one on your car) and push the 2 pins from inside. the rear chrome H is secured in place by 2 pins and thin strips of 3M tape at the top and bottom but should be easy to remove. once you've removed it and removed the remnants of the adhesive, you just have to push the red H pins into those 2 holes. its fully backed with adhesive as well. remember to clean the surface where the new emblems will stick into with alcohol so that the adhesive will stick to it firmly.

i'm not surprised with the $399 price of that ABS kit really. in the philippines, one can have a ABS replica mugen kit for just around $600 painted and fitted. we just need someone from NSW to trial fit those kits.:D monterey is just 18km from sydney anyway.

here are 2 more replica kits that i saw in ebay.com.au. replica type-r kits for FD this time.

this one includes F&R bumpers, side skirts, plastic mesh grilles for front bumper, front grille and wing:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-FD2R-Civic-Type-R-Style-BODY-KIT_W0QQitemZ260317202548QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item260317202548&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66&#37;3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

this one don't have the grille and wing:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-HONDA-CIVIC-SPORT-BODY-KIT_W0QQitemZ180306034799QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item180306034799&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

looks like mods for FD are getting more and more here.:) give it a couple more months and we'd probably be getting more mods at cheaper prices.:D

Shimian
20-11-2008, 10:36 PM
Regardless of what material, you will need to drill holes for better security. Tape and glue is not strong enough.

Wayne
20-11-2008, 11:23 PM
wow.. thanks for the explanation.. i think i can DIY myself for that.. hehe..

wow.. nice price for that.. but i heard my friend said.. in market now.. whether in Malaysia or Taiwan.. for the FD2R replica version.. it only comes with PU and FRP/Fibre.. but that guy on ebay saying that PU better than ABS? LOL..

anyway.. i have a friend have his original FD2R full exterior which including bonnet, headlights, taillights, fenders, front bumpers + grille, rear bumpers, spoiler.. sideskirts.. after convert to AUD is around $6000-6500.. crazy.. haha.. =)

ej20i
21-11-2008, 07:31 AM
why would you do that??the price of the vti after that would be around near 40G mark...wouldn't you get something nicer??euro maybe

jpestrada115
21-11-2008, 08:56 AM
wow.. thanks for the explanation.. i think i can DIY myself for that.. hehe..

wow.. nice price for that.. but i heard my friend said.. in market now.. whether in Malaysia or Taiwan.. for the FD2R replica version.. it only comes with PU and FRP/Fibre.. but that guy on ebay saying that PU better than ABS? LOL..

anyway.. i have a friend have his original FD2R full exterior which including bonnet, headlights, taillights, fenders, front bumpers + grille, rear bumpers, spoiler.. sideskirts.. after convert to AUD is around $6000-6500.. crazy.. haha.. =)


no probs. glad to be of any help.:thumbsup:



why would you do that??the price of the vti after that would be around near 40G mark...wouldn't you get something nicer??euro maybe

you're right mate. i would have bought a niver car at 40G. Wayne's words exactly - crazy!:p

ekdez
21-11-2008, 09:01 AM
to anyone...

i was offered a genuine FD2R kit for my car for 2800.. if your interested i can see if he still has it... pm me.

black8thgen
21-11-2008, 09:45 AM
can someone here actually recommend a reliable and well-fitted mugen replica kit? like the ebay seller they got it from and stuff? are there any real issues with PU though? Most kits on ebay are PU, the PP one is like double the price, and the ABS is incredibly cheap.

Wayne
21-11-2008, 02:17 PM
to anyone...

i was offered a genuine FD2R kit for my car for 2800.. if your interested i can see if he still has it... pm me.

wow.. complete set 2800? im quite interested.. hehe..

erm.. just slowly make some survey about the mugen kits.. if u just scared u got the wrong material.. save more and get the ORIs.. =)