My new TWIN HID Setup with Projector Angel Eyes + Review *56K Warning, Go Make Coffee

[Sexc86]

Hey guys. After been doing some research and wanting HIDs for a while i finally got around and did it. Thought i would post a few piccies too, as well as some pros and cons.

Basically i have a EG honda civic With Projector Angel Eyes. Now what may throw some people of is that these headlights are plastic and also they use 2 separate lamps in each head light for High & Low Beam. Origionally i was chaseing a HID high / low kit with 2 lamps that ran off the ballast but i believe now they do not exist... only a HIGH/Low kit with one lamp that has 2 settings inside the actuall lamp (2 fillaments as such) and what i found one beam was still halogen (usually high? correct if wrong)

Basically i decided to go with 2 separate HIDs 1 kit still being of halogen design (just lamps, no ballasts,). I went with ASIC HID 8000k and Mtec HID (halogens) 4750k 150Watt Extended. This was a good path i believe as i didnt have to pay for 2 whole separate HID kits (1 for high and low beam), the beams generally match each other both in strength and colour and also the high beam will require no Warm up time (as it has no ballast)

Pictures of the gear i used!

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Picture of Low beam HID vs Standard Halogen
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Picture of High beam HID vs Standard Halogen
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Also While performing this task it was a good opportunity to knock to birds with 1 stone a do a mini wire tuck. All Front Loombs going to the head lights... (Horn, Radiator, AC, Earthing moduels indicators) were all pulled back to the fire wall and re-wired through the fenders. Long process but turned out quite well.

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This Topic of heat on plastic angel eyes came up in my research. I ran both the standard Halogen lamp Vs the HID lamp for a few hrs and i actually concluded the HID setup ran much cooler then the factory Halogen (by placeing hand over front lense. I believe its a myth on the market that some people may believe that brighter = hotter?

Also upon my research i found a few people saying things like you get unwanted Glare? and also being difficult to set the beams to Horizon level. Never came across any glare problems or beam setting problems, as far as im concerned it was just like replaceing new lamps!

To conclude

PRO's of this setup
** Brighter light on both High and Low Beam
** Good Value for money (vs buying 2 hid kits or keeping factory high beam lamps)
** Gives a good opportunity to attemt a wire tuck while you are doing it
** Uses Halogen HID's on high beam ensures that you can still keep your highbeam range, they are brighter then standard halogens, match your Main HID's (in general colour) and dont require and warm up time !

CON's
** More expensive then just a normal set of halogen HID's.
** Longer installation time and knowledge needed to perform this swap, (more gear involved in the kit, Ballasts, contactor, relay, hard feed from battery)
** Expensive so if you drop a lamp you might not be very happy
** lamps seem to be a little larger then usuall (H1) had to modify slightly to fit but wasnt hard nor did it take long


Thanks for reading guys and feel free to make any questions or comments :)

Regards Lyle

[Sexc86]

Sorry guys these pictures are huge! will try make smaller for future!

[dudeling7]

nice write up man i like what you did! i jsut got 8000k HIDs as well and the different is amazing! would never go back.

[TeMp]

Good choice in K rating for HID. Anything much higher (6k+) is totally inpractical in the rain.

[CTR Coupe]

what wattage were your original halogen hi-beams? i would be careful running the 100w ones as there is a chance you can burn out your indicator stalk using to higher rating bulbs. Hondas are known for it because of their thin wiring.

the highest you should run on standard wiring is 65w.
if you want to run high wattage bulbs you should run your own wire direct from the battery then use a relay on the hi beam original wire to trigger the new high beam.

P.S the Halogens are not technically HIDs they are just blue tinted halogens.

[Sexc86]

thanks for the feedback champ, unsure on what wattage they are factory, but i should be ok as the 100watt Halogen hids would only be used in short amounts of time as they are only high beam. Neverthe less that is something i didnt think about and will keep in the back of my mind ! cheers

also i know the high beam Halogens are not hids, however i guess some people just use the term hid for brighter head light (even though its completely incorrect). But to clear it up my Low Beams are HID (with Direct Feed from batter and contactor/relay to switch) and high beams are brighter tinted Halogen Lamps (mtec 100watt) running on factory loomb. That should clear up any technicalities or incorrect terminology's :D

[CTR Coupe]

... unsure on what wattage they are factory, but i should be ok as the 100watt Halogen hids would only be used in short amounts of time as they are only high beam. ....

I did think of this and yes you are correct there is a lot less risk due to them being hi beam only.
I'm just a better safe than sorry kind of guy. Trying to find a short in the indicator stalk or elsewhere in the wiring loom is a big pain and will take hours to trace the whole wire from stalk to headlight harness. (I guess you could run new wire but thats kinda ghetto)

worst case scenario(highly unlikely) you get a electrical short in a area of the car with combustibles carpet, trim etc. and you have a small electrical fire.

P.S. Please keep us updated if anything weird happens with your "halogen only" projectors.
i think the reasoning behind the "halogen only" projectors is they don't have proper levelers(or something?) in them and they throw light everywhere blinding oncoming traffic. id love to see some shots of the cut off.

Park a bit further back from the wall and show the light throw. There should be a sharp line of where the light ends. This is to stop dazzling oncoming traffic.

[Sexc86]

Thanks mate, ill try get some new photos soon. With the light levelers its more in your headlight, and not so much your lamp. All lamps throw light everywhere but its in the projector fitting that does all the horizon cutoffs....
Lowbeam has a horizon cutoff.... but i never though a high beam ever really did? even in standard fittings? basiclly because i thought a high beam is supposed to give you light everywhere when there isnt sufficient street lighting around for you to see properly?

Also Fuses are rated to lower current carrying capacity then cable so a fuse should pop before any cable starts to break down. will keep this updated with any problems i encounter in the future though for sure

[thebob]

Should have hidden your ballast better, best place is down in that hole where your intercooler pipe runs, screw it to the chassie rail that runs to the front of your car, only problem to this is you need to remove your front bar to access them. Out of sight but!

[Limbo]

Just wondering why you didn't go for the hi/lo HID kit with both in one so that you could have a full HID?

[Sexc86]

because they dont exist with 2 differnet lamps for both high and low... well not that i could find?

[mimps]

good job on the setup.

It's good to see you put the kit in a projector rather than straight in standard reflectors. your next step is to use actual HID projectors, they'll give you a much better cut off and beam output.
do a search for "xenon projector" on the US ebay site
www.ebay.com
and check out
hidplanet.com/forums

[eKKy]

Only bulb size with hi/lo option is H4, which is in the standard EG/EK lights.
All other types are single beam.

[kazam]

hi, more pics of your angeleyes please im looking 2 buy some :p and where did you buy them from?

[kazam]

hi i repeat my question :p

[Sexc86]

sorry dood, yeh pretty much easy found over ebay :)

also on a 2nd note after driving with these for a while the low beam hids are brilliant in driving conditions however the High beam MTEC 4750K hid halogens are terrible! even at 100watt extended! just dont seem to be very bright or have a good range!.... will deffinately be ripping them out and sticking the factories back in!

[CoZZm0]

Just use a set of non-coated globes, the coating removes the increase in wattage to make more colour. If you use a higher wattage non-coated globe it will certainly be better.

[Sexc86]

really? how do you remove the coating?

[kazam]

get sum front on pics happnin yo!

[cyberscryed]

hey there nice setup, i was just wondering if you had any trouble with your projectors with the hids, because i have heard that the hids can melt the housing of the headlights, have you have any problems whatsoever with the projectors and the hids. ?

[hondavti25]

hey dude how much did that kit set you back ?