Living with a DC2R day-to-day - Some questions

[AfroBoy]

G'day all,

I'm hopefully very close to procuring a 1999 racing yellow DC2R (93,000km). I've checked through the faqs etc., which are excellent and just had a couple of additional questions -

It will be my only car, as I will have to sell my current vehicle to help fund the purchase. As a result, it will be my 'daily' and my 'fun' car.

* Reading the faq, it seems that driving to work and back in this thing each day (~40km round trip, in heavy traffic), if I keep the gear changes to ~3000rpm, the engine shouldn't suffer additional wear and tear, just the clutch will burn out/cop a beating. I won't have the cash for a new clutch setup for a while so this is a bit of a concern to me.

I've already checked the thread re: DC2 fuel consumption, so I see I'll get between 350-450 depending on how 'spirited' my driving will be.

* With genuine Honda services, notwithstanding any additional parts that may/may not be needed, roughly how much are the 'normal' services as compared to the major services (100,000km coming up)? Just a ballpark figure is what I'm after, as obviously it will vary depending on what has to be done, but I'm referring to services according to the maintenance schedule.

All this bearing in mind I will have to keep her for at least ~5yrs the pay out the loan.

I look forward to your hearing your thoughts.

Thanks for the help guys/girls.


Cheers.

[code-87]

hey m8
i just brought a type r for a daily aswell and the problem is it takes a lot of self control not to wanna rev out
as for the 100,000 thousand service im pretty sure they replace the timing belt and water pump(don't quote me), i was lucky to buy one that just had it done.
im pretty sure there pricey services especially the major ones like the 100,000
just make sure u leave urself with enough cash incase any unexpeceted repairs are needed

[90LAN]

major service 100000km from honda from $800 plus easy

[JasonGilholme]

Providing you let it warm up fully and service her regularly you'll be ok.

Give it a descent rev quite often (as long as she's warmed up) cause they like to be revved.

Services shouldn't be too expensive. They're the type of car that you can do yoruself anyway so save your money and buy some descent tools instead. :thumbsup:

[PaZzMaN-R]

everyone says they are livable with for daily driving, but i tried this for a few weeks to get me to uni in the city in peak hour traffic i used to hate it!!!!

i found it a bitch sitting in traffic. was also a 40km round trip. its deffinatly livable with compared to other cars as the clutch isnt so heavy etc. i found it doesnt enjoy stop start and slow slow slooooow rolling traffic.

i now train into uni, and basicly the cars my weekend toy:)
i get sooo much more enjoyment out of her now, even though its like driving her for the first time every weekend (you know that feeling, all the senses buzzing big wide smile you cant wipe off your face) and when you eventually give it a squirt of vtec its a magical experience hehe

[mpd076-chuck]

Actually, you will get better economy and it won't wear and tear more changing between 3000 and 5000rpm. The engine labours under 3000 and uses more fuel. And VTEC is not bad or harmful for your engine anyway. What is bad is using crap fuel, crap oil and not changing it or the filter often enough. Or down changing and sending the revs past 9100rpm.

I have done 150,000kms in DC2R and currently get 7.2l/100km or 500+km's before fuel light. This includes a few VTEC hits and always running 98 octane. The biggest change came when I started changing up at 4500-5000, not 3500 like I used to. It seems like too higher revs but it works. I think its even in the owners manual.

You can live with it day to day, but it will get painful sometimes. So to fix that, just to do the magical vtec squirt as suggested above...

Honda are expensive and yes $800+ for 100,000kms. You need to at least do timing belt. Try and find a good local mechanic who works on Honda's, there has to be somebody in Brisbane?

[16CTEG]

hey m8
i just brought a type r for a daily aswell and the problem is it takes a lot of self control not to wanna rev out
as for the 100,000 thousand service im pretty sure they replace the timing belt and water pump(don't quote me), i was lucky to buy one that just had it done.
im pretty sure there pricey services especially the major ones like the 100,000
just make sure u leave urself with enough cash incase any unexpeceted repairs are needed

I'm the answer to your pricey 100,000km service! my boys down at my old honda service centre will sort you out at a very reduce rate! just PM me!!! just had my timing belt done! i was 65,000kms overdue! but once i got it done my belt was still in greast conditions! all this time worknig at honda ive never come accross a snapped timing belt!

[Moya]

I don't need to rev mine past 4k driving to work unless I want a bit of fun. More than enough power to outrun off the lights.

Stock its fine. Just watch out when you do clutch/flywheel and alot of mods, makes it hard to drive in peak hour. Hard, but moreso ****en annoying. When my Cusco coilovers and new bushes/struts/sways go on, I think I might be retiring mine from a Daily. Too rough, hard, and loud.

Stock ITR is a piece of piss tho, change oil frequently and they are cheap as chips to run.

[SHIFTY]

i drive my type r to work everyday and on weekends and on the occasional track day (soon 2 be more then just occasional)...

isnt that bad... accept for bit noisy (no sound deadaning) and bumpy ride but thats coz of my suspension set up....

also it get anoying with all the bogans in the v8 utes always trying 2 drag!

lol... they are alright for a daily... its doable.. but if u got the money... turn it in 2 a dedicated track car :P

[r`Geno]

Firstly, congratulations on a fine choice of vehicle. You'll spend countless hours of enjoyment behind the wheel.

1. Driving a manual car in heavy traffic is always tiring, dc2R or otherwise.

2. Apart from the timing belt & valve clearances most of the maintenance can be performed in your own garage. I have a copy of how of the Honda Mechanic Workshop Manual and would be happy to provide you with a free copy :thumbsup:

[Zilli]

i drove mine everyday for a year, and i didnt mind it because i used to drive at times when there wasnt much traffic, but it is a noisy, sometimes pain in the ass car, too stiff blah blah blah

unless ur hitting vtec, that takes ur mind off it all!

[kyobibi]

I used to drive mine 500-600km a week as a daily..in peak hour traffic as well.
It wasn't that bad!

The clutch isn't too heavy and it doesn't lack torque (like the s2000, also owned one - pain in the ass as a daily) so it is really easy to drive!

Major services and general repairs aren't too expensive, its a Honda!
I say don't worry about costs, if you love the car, you'll find a way to afford it :)

[SHIFTY]

kyobibi i whant ur dc2r! swap with mine! :P

[.::F[L]Y::.]

i drive my dc2r on a daily basis. At times i do 100-150kms per day for work and i love driving it. At times it can be a bitch in peak time traffic but as mentioned it will be like that with any manual car.

Only thing you gota be concerned about if driving the car daily would be the wear on the side bolsters from getting in and out. Apart from that its a great car to own.

In regards to servicing i wouldnt recommend having honda service your vehicle, its a blatant rip off. Most of the time it would probably be an apprentice doing work on your car. If your in sydney i recommend taking it to Hanny's performance, one of the best workshops for hondas.

[SHIFTY]

i agree with the above... atleast give it a shot for basic servicing (oil change, oil filter change, inspection ect) or get a performance garage 2 do it for you...

i get Top One 2 do it, although i do reguler inspections of my car myself (i like 2 get it serviced by a proper garage so i can have a service history) :)

[code-87]

i got a m8 who works for a delearship n he was telling me how much of a rip off they are, how they do fings half assed.
i get him to help me work on my car, he dusn't do anyfin half assed on my car as his help is worth a case or 2 every now n then

[AfroBoy]

Providing you let it warm up fully and service her regularly you'll be ok.

Give it a descent rev quite often (as long as she's warmed up) cause they like to be revved.

Services shouldn't be too expensive. They're the type of car that you can do yoruself anyway so save your money and buy some descent tools instead. :thumbsup: Not a bad idea that re: DIY. I'll have to learn how to do the basic stuff but still get a garage to do the proper service, just to keep the logbook looking above board, as SHIFTY mentioned.


Actually, you will get better economy and it won't wear and tear more changing between 3000 and 5000rpm. The engine labours under 3000 and uses more fuel. And VTEC is not bad or harmful for your engine anyway. What is bad is using crap fuel, crap oil and not changing it or the filter often enough. Or down changing and sending the revs past 9100rpm.

I have done 150,000kms in DC2R and currently get 7.2l/100km or 500+km's before fuel light. This includes a few VTEC hits and always running 98 octane. The biggest change came when I started changing up at 4500-5000, not 3500 like I used to. It seems like too higher revs but it works. I think its even in the owners manual.

You can live with it day to day, but it will get painful sometimes. So to fix that, just to do the magical vtec squirt as suggested above...

Honda are expensive and yes $800+ for 100,000kms. You need to at least do timing belt. Try and find a good local mechanic who works on Honda's, there has to be somebody in Brisbane? All good info there thanks. Interesting about the ~5000rpm range and fuel economy. If she loves to be revved then I'll be the man of her dreams. :)


I'm the answer to your pricey 100,000km service! my boys down at my old honda service centre will sort you out at a very reduce rate! just PM me!!! just had my timing belt done! i was 65,000kms overdue! but once i got it done my belt was still in greast conditions! all this time worknig at honda ive never come accross a snapped timing belt! Heh, thanks mate. I'll keep it in mind. Are your old colleagues in Brissie?


Firstly, congratulations on a fine choice of vehicle. You'll spend countless hours of enjoyment behind the wheel.

1. Driving a manual car in heavy traffic is always tiring, dc2R or otherwise.

2. Apart from the timing belt & valve clearances most of the maintenance can be performed in your own garage. I have a copy of how of the Honda Mechanic Workshop Manual and would be happy to provide you with a free copy :thumbsup: I already drive a manual in traffic each morning so it doesn't bother me at all. What I was referring to was the possibility of burning out the clutch because of the type of engine that it is, but it sounds like I'm being paranoid. Also, a copy of the manual would be fantastic mate. I'd appreciate it a lot.


I used to drive mine 500-600km a week as a daily..in peak hour traffic as well.
It wasn't that bad!

The clutch isn't too heavy and it doesn't lack torque (like the s2000, also owned one - pain in the ass as a daily) so it is really easy to drive!

Major services and general repairs aren't too expensive, its a Honda!
I say don't worry about costs, if you love the car, you'll find a way to afford it :) Heh, like I said in one of my other threads, if I was thinkng with my head about costs etc. I wouldn't be entertaining the idea of owning one even in the slightest. This one's all about heart and it's a good feeling. :)

Thanks for the help guys. Any more thoughts, keep'em coming.

[Kazaf]

Bad thing about Type R's are that they tend to find your weakness and make you spend money on her on the best parts, and never settle for second best.

Freaken gold digger!

[G_Vtec]

As long you maintain a healthy service maintenance with good oil and parts, Im pretty sure the car will last you a long time. Things like clutch and timing belt is inevitable and expensive but its well worth it in the long run.

good luck with your purchase.