View Full Version : TODA Headers installed on DC5S
maracer
18-07-2007, 06:17 PM
Hi guys,
I installed Toda headers, hi flow metal cat and white line sway bar over the weekend.
Thanks to civic_mod private seller here at Ozhonda.
It was pretty straight forward job DIY, seeing I already had the Toda cat back system installed.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57449
As some of you might know after installing the cat back system December last year and happy with the results, it was fixed
In my mind that the next mod would have to be the headers
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6320/copyofdynorun134na4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-18
The first drive after install was FFFAAARRRKKK! That’s the sound of Vtek yo.
The push back in the seat is amazing, the new sound the headers make is great too.
This would have to be the best purchase for the car I’ve made to date.
For those who can’t do the math I needed a calculator anyways it’s a 15.8 gain ATW’s.
Ray_mon
18-07-2007, 06:31 PM
WOW dang. Impressive results. Was looking to buy headers too. Once i sell my base and buy a typeS that is =[
"The push back in the seat is amazing"
hahah... couldn't help but to laugh when I read this. But I do agree that the sounds becomes much more sexier.
Congrates on the new gains.
Btw, do you have an aftermarket ecu?
maracer
18-07-2007, 06:40 PM
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6379/dsc00404xi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with K750i (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=K750i&make=Sony+Ericsson) at 2007-07-18
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2137/dsc00405ja8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with K750i (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=K750i&make=Sony+Ericsson) at 2007-07-18
Just a few more pic's.
seventwozero
18-07-2007, 10:10 PM
Damn. I cannot wait for these to be on my Dc5s too!
Nice gains i hope this was worth your money!
XP02ED
18-07-2007, 10:44 PM
wow 118kw stock?
maracer
19-07-2007, 09:45 AM
wow 118kw stock?
118kw ATW's is with TODA cat back & APEXI sri only.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57449
XP02ED
19-07-2007, 10:07 AM
AHHAH nice!
what other mods you have?
130kw! wow!
i only got 120kw with rm01 and bc headers :S
Mattski_VTIR
19-07-2007, 11:18 AM
Very nice increase, i have just installed the same system but with a gruppe-M
Waiting on Kpro before i get a dyno done, any plans for future mods?
mikul_ha
19-07-2007, 11:37 AM
congratz, thats a massive gain! cant wait to get mine!!! =D
XP02ED
19-07-2007, 11:45 AM
matt! DYNO BEFORE!
i wna compare
ANYONE got dyno figures for stock dc5R!
maracer, what wheels do you have when u dynoed?
Mattski_VTIR
19-07-2007, 11:53 AM
i will get a before and after dyno of the Kpro :thumbsup:
Will be able to see the increase the kpro gave with I/H/E on a DC5s
bubblecivic
19-07-2007, 03:07 PM
I pulled 106kw atw when I had my DC5R. Thats only with a custom catback and modified airbox.
I believe people were pulling 99 - 101kw with stock DC5Rs.
XP02ED
19-07-2007, 04:50 PM
really? i might get my cousing to dyno his stock! BUT his a tight asz i wna see the power difference with my new setup! if 100kw atw is stock 120 , i should be happy :S
misteR_bilzz
19-07-2007, 05:33 PM
is ~110kw all u get out of a dc5r? i honestly would've thought there was more power in the k...
EL_DC5
19-07-2007, 08:48 PM
I got An S and and its 124kw atw w/ Just a gruppeM
m0nty ITR
19-07-2007, 09:02 PM
Nice result. Looking forward to having them myself.
unless the run is a back to back run they are just random numbers.
your numbers can be give or take like 10kw
fuzionz
19-07-2007, 09:16 PM
noob question.. whats kpro?
maracer
19-07-2007, 09:59 PM
matt! DYNO BEFORE!
i wna compare
ANYONE got dyno figures for stock dc5R!
maracer, what wheels do you have when u dynoed?
Just running the stock 17's
misteR_bilzz
19-07-2007, 11:45 PM
noob question.. whats kpro?
an ECU from HONDATA for K-Series engines.
civic_mods
19-07-2007, 11:51 PM
dyno numbers doesn't really take u anywhere, but i m sure those who hv aftermarket extractor on their dc5r will definitely feel wat the difference it made, right maracer? :P
EL_DC5
20-07-2007, 11:52 AM
IMO learn to drive and go 1/4 then mod then try again.
You will see results that way.
Stock DC5 Type S did 14.78 for me.
Added GruppeM i got the best time of my life 14.488
maracer
20-07-2007, 04:46 PM
dyno numbers doesn't really take u anywhere, but i m sure those who hv aftermarket extractor on their dc5r will definitely feel wat the difference it made, right maracer? :P
Sure is right :p:p:p
XP02ED
20-07-2007, 05:58 PM
is ~110kw all u get out of a dc5r? i honestly would've thought there was more power in the k...
i cant find an actually number on an R, coz most R's arent stock! although hopefully my cousin will do his stock with the 16" rims
i did a dyno with 18's might take it back and go for a run on stockies
m0nty ITR
03-08-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm getting the TODA headers fitted next week. Looking at those pics there's no flexijoint and I know my Fujitsubo PG doesn't have one either. I've heard the TODAs have to different spec headers. What did we get in the group buy?
I'm getting the TODA headers fitted next week. Looking at those pics there's no flexijoint and I know my Fujitsubo PG doesn't have one either. I've heard the TODAs have to different spec headers. What did we get in the group buy?
Theres no need for a flexijoint because there's a "Donut" connection which allows some form of swivel on the Cat and back.
m0nty ITR
03-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Cheers. :thumbsup:
2002 TeGgY
03-08-2007, 10:44 PM
i thought that the only difference between the K20A2 and the K20Z was the exhauste system? if so then an R and an S should havethe same power ATW if they both have identical after market exhaustes, yeh?
Rixsy
04-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Different cams, compression and suspension too I think :)
So the power ATW won't be the same and I also think that the Type S is a better platform to mod from but that's just a biased opinion which has sort of been proven anyway :p
2002 TeGgY
04-08-2007, 12:50 PM
fair enough, i never knew that they had different cams...please explain how its a better platform to mod? i thought the R had a stiffer chasis...correct me if im wrong
it may be stiffer but is stiffer better? we won't know for certain.
Just as a reference, a friend's DC5R with K&N Typhoon intake did 116kw atw and my TypeS with a catback did 123kw on the same dyno on the same day.
those dyno figures are amazing for just an addition of the Toda header! definitely will look at buying one now!
m0nty ITR
05-08-2007, 09:39 AM
it may be stiffer but is stiffer better? we won't know for certain.
Just as a reference, a friend's DC5R with K&N Typhoon intake did 116kw atw and my TypeS with a catback did 123kw on the same dyno on the same day.
those dyno figures are amazing for just an addition of the Toda header! definitely will look at buying one now!
Isn't the difference from factory 7kW anyway? What difference does 7kW makes when the DC5R is 70kg lighter? I thought it'd be six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Agreed on the dyno figure. I was amazed too. 15kW atw seems exceptionally high. I wouldn't have expected that from CAI, headers, exhaust and tune. I'm rubbing my hands together in anticipation for Thursday. If you're interested I'll post up my dyno results too. Let's see if the R gets similar results.
maracer
05-08-2007, 11:40 AM
Tofu 123kw atw with just cat back is great:thumbsup: What type is it?
Mine on it’s first ever run did 118atw with sri & Toda cat back, I have to admit that I thought I would have got more, but any gain is better than none.
It’s hard to get a base figure for both cars the R and S. They say that the S is about 110-112kw atw and R would be a hand full less!
One thing is for sure is that no same two engines are the same, therefore unless you do a stock standard run to find your base figure. Dyno run after every Mod you do only to see the gains you made just for your car. Because the chances are the next bloke with same car same mods will have a slight difference in results.
2002 TeGgY
05-08-2007, 04:35 PM
it may be stiffer but is stiffer better? we won't know for certain.
Just as a reference, a friend's DC5R with K&N Typhoon intake did 116kw atw and my TypeS with a catback did 123kw on the same dyno on the same day.
those dyno figures are amazing for just an addition of the Toda header! definitely will look at buying one now!
umm, generally stiffer is better...are you trying to tell me that the platform of the DC5 base model is better?? its not called a type r for fun...i agree about the dc5s having a more powerful engine, but its also heavier...jus my opinion and btw K&N Typhoon intake would give you no gains if anything you may lose power...
Isn't the difference from factory 7kW anyway? What difference does 7kW makes when the DC5R is 70kg lighter? I thought it'd be six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Agreed on the dyno figure. I was amazed too. 15kW atw seems exceptionally high. I wouldn't have expected that from CAI, headers, exhaust and tune. I'm rubbing my hands together in anticipation for Thursday. If you're interested I'll post up my dyno results too. Let's see if the R gets similar results.
although it's heavier, it's been shown time and time again that a stock typeS is quicker than a stock typeR in the 1/4mile (given similar skilled drivers)
and i don't think it's just the power or weight difference between the R and S that makes the difference between the two as in which one is quicker. the way the power is delivered feels different too...the TypeS is more "torquey"
Tofu 123kw atw with just cat back is great:thumbsup: What type is it?
i have the fujitsubo powergetter on my TypeS.
umm, generally stiffer is better...are you trying to tell me that the platform of the DC5 base model is better?? its not called a type r for fun...i agree about the dc5s having a more powerful engine, but its also heavier...jus my opinion and btw K&N Typhoon intake would give you no gains if anything you may lose power...
i did own a base model DC5 before i had this TypeS, and after the usual suspension mods (strut bars, sway bars, shocks/springs or coilovers) my base can hold it's own against the TypeR when driving spiritedly. Many of my friends with TypeR can't believe it themselves. But on corner exits of course the TypeR leaves me behind for sure.
but anyway, comparing the base and typeS in terms of chassis strength, it's similar if anything you can't really notice the difference, unless you're at the limit say on a track. And ontop of that, I would really doubt you can tell the difference in chassis strength between a TypeS and a TypeR. One car may roll less but that probably isn't the chassis, but more the difference in springs/shocks.
2002 TeGgY
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
well i owned a DC5 base as well, and stock to stock you cant even compare. i was mainly reffering to stock form, with the R you have a better package to start with ;)
EL_DC5
08-08-2007, 03:56 PM
As far as i know if the type s and the type r have the same sussy and rim/tire set up. the type s has a more ridged feel due to the upgrade strut bar. but there almost identical.
the au Type S is based on the JDM Type R facelift model.
i did own a base model DC5 before i had this TypeS, and after the usual suspension mods (strut bars, sway bars, shocks/springs or coilovers) my base can hold it's own against the TypeR when driving spiritedly. Many of my friends with TypeR can't believe it themselves. But on corner exits of course the TypeR leaves me behind for sure.
but anyway, comparing the base and typeS in terms of chassis strength, it's similar if anything you can't really notice the difference, unless you're at the limit say on a track. And ontop of that, I would really doubt you can tell the difference in chassis strength between a TypeS and a TypeR. One car may roll less but that probably isn't the chassis, but more the difference in springs/shocks.
the au Type S is based on the JDM Type R facelift model.
I don't think so...
Our TypeS chassis is based on the JDM TypeS (the Japanese base model) chassis, with the hole cut out for the sunroof
EL_DC5
08-08-2007, 05:42 PM
I don't think so...
Our TypeS chassis is based on the JDM TypeS (the Japanese base model) chassis, with the hole cut out for the sunroof
The Chassis are the same man, there are no extra supports in the JDM DC5R in the roof. Sunroof is aesthetics but my flex abit more due to lack of flex distribution in the roof
m0nty ITR
08-08-2007, 07:25 PM
So besides Brembos and Recaros why would those in Japan get the Type R over the Type S? Surely there are some enhancements in the Type R chassis.
maracer
08-08-2007, 08:41 PM
This is getting a bit off topic:p
But anywayz the JDM DC5R face lift 05-06 is 100kg’s lighter & does the ¼ in 14.3sec’s
I’d say there’s a lot different:)
So besides Brembos and Recaros why would those in Japan get the Type R over the Type S? Surely there are some enhancements in the Type R chassis.
the JDM TypeS only has the 118kw engine.
2002 TeGgY
09-08-2007, 03:47 PM
This is getting a bit off topic:p
But anywayz the JDM DC5R face lift 05-06 is 100kg’s lighter & does the ¼ in 14.3sec’s
I’d say there’s a lot different:)
yeh it is getting a bit offtopic, anyway i reckon very nice results. oh and btw im getting a toda catback installed in my car in about 3 weeks and eventually im getting GruppeM and toda headers...should be interesting to see the comparison in ATW KW between the R and the S with the same mods :thumbsup:
EL_DC5
10-08-2007, 09:41 AM
JDM Type S has nothing on Our Type S. We got a hybrid version as in some of both cars . AU S has better engine than AU R, apparently better strut brace but it does weigh 70k more cause of sound proofing, leather and creature comforts but i still managed to pull a 14.48 down WSID with just a GruppeM intake cant wait for a toda heads exhaust :)
EL_DC5
10-08-2007, 10:31 AM
This is getting a bit off topic:p
But anywayz the JDM DC5R face lift 05-06 is 100kg’s lighter & does the ¼ in 14.3sec’s
I’d say there’s a lot different:)
Facelift Jdm DC5R has different steering and shorter gears.
and much nicer streamline look
JDM.Power
18-08-2007, 05:29 PM
14.3 kewl. for a jdmdc5r
friend pulled of a 14.2 in his DC5R with just a typhoon K&N.
now its getting the toda headers, fujitsubo PG, cat, and sway bar in on tuesday.
i will post up the dyno figures also.
m0nty ITR
18-08-2007, 05:42 PM
14.3 kewl. for a jdmdc5r
friend pulled of a 14.2 in his DC5R with just a typhoon K&N.
now its getting the toda headers, fujitsubo PG, cat, and sway bar in on tuesday.
i will post up the dyno figures also.
Next Tuesday? Confirmed? I told Adrian to tell me straight up after it had been promised for over a week. Here's hoping it all happens.
maracer
18-08-2007, 06:01 PM
That’s all great to hear:wave:
It’ll be interesting to see dyno figures.
Just another thing I’ve noticed since installing, the engine light has come on twice:eek:
It’s got to do with the high flow cat? Obvious not as much restriction as standard cat:p
Therefore the sensor after the cat is signaling the engine light to come on:confused:
JDM.Power
18-08-2007, 06:04 PM
Next Tuesday? Confirmed? I told Adrian to tell me straight up after it had been promised for over a week. Here's hoping it all happens.
yep i personally went in my self, to book it in on tuesday. and his hoping the parts would come in by then.
m0nty ITR
18-08-2007, 07:07 PM
I hope so. After all, he still doesn't have the headers we need.
Mattski_VTIR
20-08-2007, 10:57 AM
I noticed you said your CEL light is coming on! I have the same problem (I'm running the same exhaust system) This problem will be gone once kpro is tuned, but just out of curiosity, were is the secondary 02 sensor port on your headers? i can only see one? (mine has two side by side before the cat, then 1 after the cat, although i couldn't reach the one after the cat so mine are sitting side by side atm)
m0nty ITR
20-08-2007, 11:22 AM
That’s all great to hear:wave:
It’ll be interesting to see dyno figures.
Just another thing I’ve noticed since installing, the engine light has come on twice:eek:
It’s got to do with the high flow cat? Obvious not as much restriction as standard cat:p
Therefore the sensor after the cat is signaling the engine light to come on:confused:
I'm rapidly losing interest in this deal. My car went to the smash repairer to get some dents taken out of the door last week. It came back with weld marks on the rear windscreen and the alarm doesn't work.
The last thing I want is for this mod to create more problems.
Has anyone had these headers and cat fitted with 100% reliability.
Mattski_VTIR
20-08-2007, 11:24 AM
I'm rapidly losing interest in this deal. My car went to the smash repairer to get some dents taken out of the door last week. It came back with weld marks on the rear windscreen and the alarm doesn't work.
The last thing I want is for this mod to create more problems.
Has anyone had these headers and cat fitted with 100% reliability.
The headers will work 100% correctly if the secondary 02 sensor is extended and fitted behind the cat (so I'm led to believe by Toda) my 02 sensors are both sitting before the cat, there for not reading enough variation which in turn trips the CEL for emission reasons
maracer
20-08-2007, 12:02 PM
I noticed you said your CEL light is coming on! I have the same problem (I'm running the same exhaust system) This problem will be gone once kpro is tuned, but just out of curiosity, were is the secondary 02 sensor port on your headers? i can only see one? (mine has two side by side before the cat, then 1 after the cat, although i couldn't reach the one after the cat so mine are sitting side by side atm)
Yes, my second 02 sensor is after the CAT.
I extended the wires too reach. The light is coming because of the high flow CAT, I believe? Not as restrictive as standard one?
I also believe that a reprogramming of the computer/addon of one (APEXI) and someone that has a good understanding of TUNING such car would fix this minor problem.
maracer
20-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Also when the engine light is on it does not hinder the performance of the car all:thumbsup:
Believe me I tried it:p:p:p:p
Dr.k20z1
22-08-2007, 09:52 AM
niceeee workk bro...
i was wondering my mate just got new headers but he has a dc5r and i was thinking of gettin his old after market ones and i was wondering are they the same fit? for the k20z and k20a?
cheers
m0nty ITR
22-08-2007, 10:14 AM
yep i personally went in my self, to book it in on tuesday. and his hoping the parts would come in by then.
I take it they didn't get fitted. Just spoke to Ashley and they still don't have em. He said hopefully tomorrow.
EL_DC5
22-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Stupid Customs...
dONT WORK HARD ENOUGH
maracer
22-08-2007, 04:57 PM
niceeee workk bro...
i was wondering my mate just got new headers but he has a dc5r and i was thinking of gettin his old after market ones and i was wondering are they the same fit? for the k20z and k20a?
cheers
Can't see why not.
The TODA headers i got came off a DC5R
Dr.k20z1
22-08-2007, 11:54 PM
haha sik as then.. well thx for that
m0nty ITR
27-08-2007, 01:09 PM
Anyone got them yet? I'm still waiting.
m0nty ITR
29-08-2007, 12:30 PM
Anyone got them yet? I'm still waiting.
Well I'm booked in for Friday 9:00am. I'll post dyno results Friday afternoon.
maracer
29-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Well I'm booked in for Friday 9:00am. I'll post dyno results Friday afternoon.
FINGERS CROSSED:wave:
m0nty ITR
31-08-2007, 08:57 PM
FINGERS CROSSED:wave:
Success. Kind of. Happy with the headers but won't go into detail about the experience.
The car has much better mid range torque. It's top end is slightly better too. A huge difference to the Type S the guys gave me for the day thanks to a mix up. The exhaust is much louder than it used to be. The car has a much more distinctive bark to it and fuel dumps are very noticable. It has a more race feel to it now. A little raw in it's note.
Before
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1207996/BeforeHeaders.JPG
After
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1207996/AfterHeaders.JPG
maracer
31-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Hey Monty,
Good to hear.
Hate to be a pain what did you get done exactly, just headers?
m0nty ITR
31-08-2007, 10:14 PM
The headers, sway bar and HF cat.
how come there's a dip?
do you have aftermarket intake too?
m0nty ITR
01-09-2007, 08:02 AM
Yeah, I've also got Injen CAI and Fujitsubo Power Getter exhaust.
JDM.Power
01-09-2007, 09:02 AM
yep nice power figures, i was there all night.
saw your car run on the dyno monty.
m0nty ITR
01-09-2007, 01:05 PM
yep nice power figures, i was there all night.
saw your car run on the dyno monty.
Ah nice. I figured there had to be a couple of Oz Honda guys there. Sorry for not being a little more sociable. I'm sure you can understand why I was in a filthy mood.
mikul_ha
08-09-2007, 11:24 PM
got mine today ... very happy with it!!!!!
DC5R 03
before : 122.5kw atw - gruppem + fuji PG
after : 134.5kw atw - above + toda header + hf cat
thanks again to adrian, ash and james :thumbsup:
dyno sheets up soon for those interested ...
m0nty ITR
09-09-2007, 09:16 AM
10kWs more than my car with the only difference being the Gruppe M vs Injen?
My car can't be that bad.
maracer
09-09-2007, 07:40 PM
got mine today ... very happy with it!!!!!
DC5R 03
before : 122.5kw atw - gruppem + fuji PG
after : 134.5kw atw - above + toda header + hf cat
thanks again to adrian, ash and james :thumbsup:
dyno sheets up soon for those interested ...
Great result, must be happy with that:thumbsup:
Just a question for you guys with the R’s,
How much WHEEL SPIN do you get from changing up 2nd >3RD ?
m0nty ITR
09-09-2007, 07:49 PM
It's not too bad. I don't drive it with hard changes much. If I drive hard I get the usual axle tramp in 2nd but 3rd would only spin for a second or so.
mikul_ha
10-09-2007, 09:49 AM
10kWs more than my car with the only difference being the Gruppe M vs Injen?
My car can't be that bad.
Championship White = 10kw
maracer
10-09-2007, 09:56 AM
Championship White = 10kw
It's the only thing i can think of too:p
[RSX 03]
10-09-2007, 08:33 PM
Championship White = 10kw
x2 :p
JDM.Power
10-09-2007, 09:03 PM
i dont believe in dyno figures, untill times are proven on the track.
you could get a gtr, and ran it on a dyno and only got 160kw, but when you go to the quarter mile, you run a low to mid 12.
mikul_ha
12-09-2007, 11:10 PM
Great result, must be happy with that:thumbsup:
Just a question for you guys with the R’s,
How much WHEEL SPIN do you get from changing up 2nd >3RD ?
i gave my car a good kick tonight, dam so much WHEEL SPIN!!!! 1st 2nd and 3rd... even if i do it on a roll start in 2nd. should i invest in solid motor mounts to reduce wheel hop?
XP02ED
13-09-2007, 11:20 AM
i gave my car a good kick tonight, dam so much WHEEL SPIN!!!! 1st 2nd and 3rd... even if i do it on a roll start in 2nd. should i invest in solid motor mounts to reduce wheel hop?
x2..
im getting ridiculous wheel spin on 2nd and 3rd.. i checked my mounts.. not cracked..
although im planning to get tienss once cash comes..
destrukshn
13-09-2007, 11:24 AM
er.. what tyres are you guys running? to say you get so much wheel spin?
XP02ED
13-09-2007, 11:45 AM
im running bridgestone potenzas
225/40/18
maracer
13-09-2007, 04:57 PM
Got standard 17's 215/45
Upgrading soon to Dunlop SPsport maxx 225/40/18's
I'm hoping less wheel spin:p
Dr.k20z1
13-09-2007, 10:32 PM
how much do u guys get ur tires for? on the original wheels 17s 215/45 apparently my cousin got his for like 450 bucks for one, and the tyre guy selling it said it will last 60000ks easily so yeah.. im thinking 450 bucks i may aswell kill myself hahaha well not really kill myself but yeah... get new wheels..
fatboyz39
13-09-2007, 10:54 PM
thats funny. wheelspin into 3rd. Dreaming.
grumpy rooster
13-09-2007, 11:25 PM
thats funny. wheelspin into 3rd. Dreaming.
Have to agree.
fatboyz39
13-09-2007, 11:28 PM
How about some you's that just had the headers install take it down the quater mile. See what true power it has.
Some of you's might be shock on what time you'll run. :zip::zip:
maracer
14-09-2007, 04:46 PM
How about some you's that just had the headers install take it down the quater mile. See what true power it has.
Some of you's might be shock on what time you'll run. :zip::zip:
Yes i know,
It'll be hard to get good time with all that will spin.
m0nty ITR
14-09-2007, 06:20 PM
I don't have any issues with wheelspin, but then again I don't drive aggressively on the road. My only problem arose at the track. Gear selection is really hard. I've been told I need an engine torque damper. Engine can torque load which also moves the gear selector. Changing down into 3rd would either jam or slide across into 5th. Headers also hit heatshield fitted to steering arms under brisk acceleration.
XP02ED
14-09-2007, 06:30 PM
it will be hard getting good time on our dc5 or any NA car .. unless u wna take stuff off.. which after spending 25k + on a car... not many people would..
this is aimed at dc5R/S not the other cars which people do engine conversions on
maracer
14-09-2007, 06:42 PM
I got Engine Torque Damper on my car.
Can't really say that it helped with gear selection, but there is defiantly more cabin noise.
oh, there is a little less movement of engine rocking back and forth, Supposed to help with wheel hoping.
Well that’s my experience of it on my car.
m0nty ITR
15-09-2007, 09:21 AM
I got Engine Torque Damper on my car.
Can't really say that it helped with gear selection, but there is defiantly more cabin noise.
oh, there is a little less movement of engine rocking back and forth, Supposed to help with wheel hoping.
Well that’s my experience of it on my car.
Have you taken your car to the track? That's the only time I noticed it. Going into the fish hook at Wakefield and hard under brakes into the final turn.
.::F[L]Y::.
15-09-2007, 10:42 AM
just curious. Whats the quickest Street registered NA DC5R in Oz atm in terms of 1/4 mile times.
STOCK
15-09-2007, 12:58 PM
thats funny. wheelspin into 3rd. Dreaming.
My mates DC5R with basic n/a mods will happilly wheel spin third with bridgestone S03..
fatboyz39
16-09-2007, 11:06 PM
Wheelspin? you sure? Difference between chirping 3rds then wheelspining into 3rd.
ALLMTR996
16-09-2007, 11:52 PM
Y::.;1348871']just curious. Whats the quickest Street registered NA DC5R in Oz atm in terms of 1/4 mile times.
I dont think many go to the drags they seem to track them instead.
ALLMTR996
STOCK
17-09-2007, 11:04 AM
this aint chirping man, its wheel spin =0
fatboyz39
17-09-2007, 11:52 AM
You sure its not in the wet? O_O
m0nty ITR
17-09-2007, 12:05 PM
My mates DC5R with basic n/a mods will happilly wheel spin third with bridgestone S03..
Mate I gotta say they don't wheelspin 3rd. Very low torque even with mods. Just over 200nm at last dyno run. That's less than a 2.0FSI Golf. Even with the dodgy retreads that my car had when I bought it, it didn't wheelspin 3rd. It'd only chirp now if I flat change hard (which I don't do).
oHKSo
17-09-2007, 12:13 PM
u sure ur tyres arent bald
XP02ED
17-09-2007, 12:19 PM
the wheelspin im talking about is going from 2nd to 3rd changing at 8.5 each gear..
during 3rd, it doesnt spin.. just the change over.. and my tyres arent bald.
my dynoed torque from bels is
287NM = MIN
357NM = MAX
314NM - AVE
m0nty ITR
17-09-2007, 12:22 PM
the wheelspin im talking about is going from 2nd to 3rd changing at 8.5 each gear..
during 3rd, it doesnt spin.. just the change over.. and my tyres arent bald.
How do you get to 8500? Fuel cut of DC5R is at 7900.
A.M ECU?
Mattski_VTIR
17-09-2007, 12:25 PM
Tacho's get abit out high in the RPM...
XP02ED
17-09-2007, 12:28 PM
not sure? but before the mods it cutted out at 7900 but seems that it goes to 8.5 then cuts off.. i change at 8.3/8.4 if i drive hard.
but yeh im using stock
PS, i cant drive hard atm.. my header and exhaust have issues
STOCK
17-09-2007, 01:21 PM
You sure its not in the wet? O_O
Guess you never been for a wrap in a DC5R with IHE Hondata and OS clutch and FD then :thumbsup:
fatboyz39
17-09-2007, 01:44 PM
my dynoed torque from bels is
287NM = MIN
357NM = MAX
314NM - AVE
2L motor making that much torque. Power of dreams:honda:
XP02ED
17-09-2007, 01:47 PM
2L motor making that much torque. Power of dreams:honda:
http://xposed.au.com/photos//30/1184801566_dyno2.JPG
nuff said...
.::F[L]Y::.
17-09-2007, 01:48 PM
Guess you never been for a wrap in a DC5R with IHE Hondata and OS clutch and FD then :thumbsup:
hey kev,
is this the car that was for sale couple of weeks ago? with the 5.0FD?
XPO2ED- thats not your true torque reading at the wheels. I too thought my previous b20 setup was pushing out heaps of torque at the wheels until forum member 'string' pointed out to me thats not the case. '314NM average' is like V8 power. i highly doubt your 2.0L 4 cylinder engine is that fully sick....perhaps pm string and he can explain it better
XP02ED
17-09-2007, 01:52 PM
im just reading from my dyno.. but dunno i do get wheelspin to 3rd.. and myh tyres aint bald..
.::F[L]Y::.
17-09-2007, 01:54 PM
im just reading from my dyno.. but dunno i do get wheelspin to 3rd.. and myh tyres aint bald..
yeh i initially was like you and thought my car is a torque monster but unfortunately not the case.
fatboyz39
17-09-2007, 02:20 PM
As i said "Power of Dreams"
XP02ED
17-09-2007, 02:45 PM
thats why its a honda..
STOCK
17-09-2007, 02:51 PM
Y::.;1351973']hey kev,
is this the car that was for sale couple of weeks ago? with the 5.0FD?
XPO2ED- thats not your true torque reading at the wheels. I too thought my previous b20 setup was pushing out heaps of torque at the wheels until forum member 'string' pointed out to me thats not the case. '314NM average' is like V8 power. i highly doubt your 2.0L 4 cylinder engine is that fully sick....perhaps pm string and he can explain it better
yeap thats the one, wanna buy it? :p
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