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SiR JDM
16-07-2004, 10:38 AM
hey guys my b16a conversion is finished, jus not running 100% yet.. i jus gotta service yday, and the mechanic was a dumbshit and didn't tell me anything i dind't already know or fix anything really..

i converted my eg3 breeze into a [acronym:6624e20f81="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:6624e20f81] b16a... pretty much stock, except for Xforce 4-2-1 extractors... the fuel pump was taken from a ek4 ... radiator is still breeze one which is doin the job for the time being, its just the hose that doesn't fit and ill change that up pretty soon
Also, i think my engine is from the eg9 b16a 4 door ferio ... i know its got 10hp less than the eg6, but is there any difference in [acronym:6624e20f81="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:6624e20f81] or anything that would could be the cuase of my problem...

At the moment, the idle is a bit rough.. and its slightly high, staying about 1500 rpm even when warmed up... but the main problem im having is that, its a little hard to explain, but ill try..

When takin off.. its really sluggish.. the car studders like is about to stall, and then after it kicks in a little higher rpm and speed, it smooths out and seems to drive fine after that... When i got the engine put in, the car was misfiring (as there was a little bit of water in the 1st valve) and the spark plugs were black as hell... which im pretty sure is a sign that its running too rich?
It still is running to rich and is eating up the petrol...
Originally the o2 sensor wasn't screwed in properly which would have been the cause of some of the problem and the car is running slightly better after that small service, however the o2 sensor has been screwed in tightly now and problems still remain... Could the o2 sensor not being screwed in have reset my [acronym:6624e20f81="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:6624e20f81] or put my [acronym:6624e20f81="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:6624e20f81] into like some sort of safe mode where fuel is being flooded in or something?

Also the [acronym:6624e20f81="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:6624e20f81] isn't kicking in very hard, you can hear it and the speed increases slightly more when above 5000ish RPM, but really doesn't have that vtec pull, although, i havn't driven it much at all considering the problem.. ive heard that [acronym:6624e20f81="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:6624e20f81] is very sensitive to the rest of the car, so if there are problems with the car, then the [acronym:6624e20f81="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:6624e20f81] wont work to its full potential etc..
Possible reasaons ive been told that are causing the problem include:
[acronym:6624e20f81="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:6624e20f81] needs tunning to find the right fuel/oxy ratio or somethin of such
Carbon build up on my throttle body and/or intake manifold
Injectors are dirty (the filter inside) - would injector cleaner in my petrol when i next fill up help/solve this problem?
o2 sensor not working properly - I bought this at hond-wreck in melbourne so i assume it would be working properly, although ive read they're very sensitive (not just to oxygen :P) so if misshandled it could damage a wire or such..
The mechanic sugguested the fuel pump may not be compatible, would a ek4 fueltank be compatible with this engine?

I pretty much just want the problem to be found n solved, and after taking it to a generic mechanic yesterday, ive realised i probably need someone who knows hondas better than your local mechanic...
i live in sth east melb and lookin for a place where i can take my car to get these few things fixed... i dont have much $$ so somewhere reasonable as well..。

I was thinkin of mayb hond-wreck but im not sure... anyone who has any imput into my problems or a good honda mechanic who can fix them would be VERY VERY much appreciated... thanks

Kit
16-07-2004, 11:16 AM
where are you located mate?

SiR JDM
16-07-2004, 11:28 AM
South East Melbourne, Clayton to be exact

pornstar
16-07-2004, 12:39 PM
hondwreck? my gawd, i can do better work with my eyes closed man. If Adrian at RAzztech wasnt so busy servicing, id tell u to go there, but if u want pm me ill see what i can do to help ya out man. i got a fair idea of what it is.
if u go tohondwreck, ask them why they do dodgy stuff like use a civic vti ecu on a b18c vtir motor, also ask why the reweled axles and when someone gives their car stick the axles snap at the weld.

IE do NOT EVER go to hondwreck, they are wreckers and thats all they are good for.

poid
16-07-2004, 12:51 PM
sounds like the tune is all over the place, wouldn't surprise me if you had the wrong [acronym:f14f8bbff3="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:f14f8bbff3] in there

SiR JDM
16-07-2004, 12:55 PM
Yea i agree with both of you... everytime ive been to hond-wreck they dont know shit...ask them anything and they take about 15 minutes to find a part or cant even find it at all and when they do they dont know wat modle its for etc.. yea.. id love to go to razztech too, they're pretty far from where i am tho..

I agree i think the [acronym:59fff3e50d="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:59fff3e50d] needs to be tuned .. i dont think id have the wrong [acronym:59fff3e50d="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:59fff3e50d], wouldn't the car like, not run if i didn't have a compatable [acronym:59fff3e50d="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:59fff3e50d]?

Ill get it checked tho thanx..

pornstar
16-07-2004, 12:59 PM
it will run, but poorly... sound familiar to ur situation? :P
as for being far, man if that stops u from doing things, im sorry but then in the SE u is pretty farked

TOYOL
16-07-2004, 02:53 PM
Yea i agree with both of you... everytime ive been to hond-wreck they dont know shit...ask them anything and they take about 15 minutes to find a part or cant even find it at all and when they do they dont know wat modle its for etc.. yea.. id love to go to razztech too, they're pretty far from where i am tho..


Trust me mate, Adrian is worth the trip up there. He should be able to solve it. If anyone knows about honda's..... its this guy..

Coolies
16-07-2004, 06:44 PM
I second and third that, make the trip to go see adrian from razztech.

SiR JDM
16-07-2004, 06:58 PM
is he pricey? how much would i be looking at payin?

Its just at the moment with the car not running 100% i dind't really wanna travel too far, but i guess it seems like the best choice to make..

i left the car at a friends house last nite while he cleaned the throttle body .. and he took it for a test drive and he said it drove really well and the vtec kicked in really hard ... he drives a 94 [acronym:cb5b2749c7="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:cb5b2749c7] vtir prelude, so i take it when he says that it means something...
although he did say its still a lil sluggish in first gear.. which lies the problem pretty much...

im gonna get fuel injector cleaners 2nite when i fill up.. hopefully that will help, but i still beleive the problem resides in the [acronym:cb5b2749c7="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:cb5b2749c7] ... razztech seems to be the way to go ey?

pornstar
16-07-2004, 07:14 PM
adrian knows his shit, i dont recommend him for nothing

geo41e
16-07-2004, 11:22 PM
go hannys!
go advan performance!!

bennjamin
16-07-2004, 11:40 PM
...with a modded car such as urs matey - i dont suggest you go to Hannys performance.
Try Charlie at Good performance at Yenora ( about 10 mins down the road from Hannys) or i guess Advan too....

SiR JDM
17-07-2004, 12:01 AM
are these places in melb? ive never heard of them before...

pornstar
17-07-2004, 03:06 PM
no they are for gay syndey ppl :)

luzinit
17-07-2004, 03:11 PM
yeh not hannys, they are not about performance hahaha.....

TOYOL
17-07-2004, 03:14 PM
no they are for gay syndey ppl :)

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

alan
18-07-2004, 01:35 AM
y r ppl even talking about places in syd when he said he's in melb..... :?:

BlitZ
23-07-2004, 08:57 AM
ahahah yesh its worth the trip to sydney.!! get it toweD eheheh jus kidding!! eheh

You car sounds completely out of tune.. Check you [acronym:823b7ae131="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:823b7ae131] and make sure its the one for EG9 and thats its compatable with a direct swap to eg6.

Clean your injectors ($50) check your senors? vacume hose... vacume leaks?

SiR JDM
24-07-2004, 03:09 PM
thx for the help and replies guys...

there are too many variables so i dropped it off at Razztech this morning and hopefully adrian can fix my baby up.. if he cant, theres no hope.. lol..

ill keep you guys posted tho..