Del Sol Motor Choice

[PhatMirage]

I'm trying to work out which direction to go with my del sol. I am thinking either turbo charging the B16A2 or else building up a CRVtec motor. The car is mainly a daily driver, but performance is going to be oriented towards windy road driving and mabey some light track work (i know the del sol will never be a real track car). For the turbo, I'm concerned about the reliablity of the motor. It needs to withstand at least 10min of high RPM usage. Also, I don't want the lag to effect the tractibility off the motor (throttle response is very important for good cornering). As far as the CRVtech goes, the main concern here is cost. After looking at the price of the type-R crank, etc... it looks like it could become a very expensive build. I would appreciate people's comments?

[pornstar]

i know alot of "TRUE" honda enthusiests that have never raced a car or even changed their own brake pads are going to disagree but with the GT turbos from garrett, the turbo route will easily own the NA route, and it can handle just fine. as for reliability, yer its all fine :)

[PhatMirage]

Yeah If I do go the turbo route, it will definitley be ball bearing power. GT25 is looking like the best bet at the moment.

[pornstar]

if u get a chance contact me via pm and ill show u some mean setups

[Mr delSol]

I have been in a turbo charged gen 2, couldn't tell when the turbo kick in.
That car kick ass on track. He also got 12.3s for 1/4 mile.

The guy spend a bit of money though.

[[[d a n n y]]]

hm..nope..

turbo and N/A very different..

while the N/A engine will b more user friendly the turbo will not b as friendly as the N/A

but both will b fun

[LatinoHatchCrap]

I would recomend that if your car is mainly going to see drag strips and street crusing the turbo opion is the way to go.

However if you're more road racing/handling oriented a modded b16a (pistons/cams/headwork) will do the trick.

Remember that on the track its not so much about how much power you have its how efficiently and balanced the vehicle is taking into account suspension geometry and the area under the power curve.

Joe

[PhatMirage]

However if you're more road racing/handling oriented a modded b16a (pistons/cams/headwork) will do the trick.

Yes, this is where I'm comming from. Not really intrested in drag strips (a good time would be nice of course) or 'street cruising'. I just wasn't sure that the B16A had that much more to give. Also the cost of NA mods to the B16A looks pretty scarry. For the mirage a nice quad throttle setup was going to set me back about $2k, but it seems a similar item for the B16A is going to be around 5.5k :shock:

[pornstar]

how is turbo not as user firendly Danny?

[TODA AU]

Steer clear of the B20 houso motor...
They're nothing but trouble...

Turbo what you've got...
With the right setup...
170kw+ @ the wheels is no problem with a stock bottom end.

[LatinoHatchCrap]

[quote="PhatMirage";p="108240"]
Not really intrested in drag strips (a good time would be nice of course) or 'street cruising'. I just wasn't sure that the B16A had that much more to give.quote]

The b16a its prob one of the best motors to give you experience at the road course.
If I was you i would save my money and drop this TURBO/CRVTEC idea and spend the money on a nice set of coilovers and brake pads then gradually add suspension upgrades in between track time.
This will not only save you money but you will also learn step by step what your car needs to become more competitive both on and off track.
From what i've read the 2nd gen b16a is capable of producing more than 130w/kw with good cams/valvetrain/high compression and of course tuning.

Joe

[bizee_1]

Either would be really nice. I'd like CRVtec, but would probably go the turbo route. Anyhow, i'm with LatinoHatchCrap, that if you like a little circuit time, & windy roads, then suspension/brakes mods are a must, then tunable [acronym:4b51d012e8="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:4b51d012e8](Hondata), supportive, comfortable bucket seat & ITR gearbox FD 4.785 (or aftermarket [acronym:4b51d012e8="Limited Slip Differential"]LSD[/acronym:4b51d012e8]).

Ray

btw : i just realised you could read windy two ways. Just like read. :lol:

[Toby]

Both would be cool but as an NA man I voted CRVtec. But which ever you choose do it proply the first time and not half arsed and you should be right :wink:

[A'PEXi]

just go turbo.... but with minimal boost to keep you out of trouble.... will give u that bit of extra power, close to the dc2r (hahahhaha :D ) and then work on the sussy.... :D

[PhatMirage]

Either would be really nice. I'd like CRVtec, but would probably go the turbo route. Anyhow, i'm with LatinoHatchCrap, that if you like a little circuit time, & windy roads, then suspension/brakes mods are a must, then tunable [acronym:d36c34f9f3="Engine Control Unit"]ECU[/acronym:d36c34f9f3](Hondata), supportive, comfortable bucket seat & ITR gearbox FD 4.785 (or aftermarket [acronym:d36c34f9f3="Limited Slip Differential"]LSD[/acronym:d36c34f9f3]).

Ray

btw : i just realised you could read windy two ways. Just like read. :lol:

Ok then, looks like the best thing to do is to look into a set of decent coilovers and asociated suspension components. I was already considering a nice set of bucket seats, though the stock del sol seats are rather nice. As for the DC2R gearbox, i'm not sure if I want to be cruising at 4000RPM all the time, so mabey the aftermarket [acronym:d36c34f9f3="Limited Slip Differential"]LSD[/acronym:d36c34f9f3] is a better option :P